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Originally Posted by BananaStand
Maybe for some patients the therapist would just prefer to give them drugs than have to talk to them every week. Such a person might then conclude it's a form of drug-dealing I guess.
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Originally Posted by BananaStand
Maybe for some patients the therapist would just prefer to give them drugs than have to talk to them every week. Such a person might then conclude it's a form of drug-dealing I guess.
Or maybe I don't think I can learn much about meaning from someone who acts the way you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Glad I could helpQuote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
;)
I thought we weren't allowed to switch subjects mid-thread? Who decides what we're talking about around here anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Regardless, this is a rabbit hole I'm happy to go down.
Psychiatrists = drug dealers.
Discuss....
Regarding the happiness by country data, the interocular trauma test shows a powerful correlation between happiness and peoples that have adopted Protestant, Enlightenment, Germanic cultures.
Looking at the history, true. Another observation would be that those same countries are nowadays spectacularly secular.
On the latest econtalk podcast with Nassim Taleb, he made a point I found rather interesting. It is the argument that Protestantism was/is a secular religion. This is because the history of religion is that religion and law are tied together. Protestantism rejected the idea that humans are bound by laws of the land; instead bound by revealed morality.
Given the history, it makes some sense to think of a move away from the law religion as secular. In contemporary times, secular seems to be defined as a move away from religion altogether. Time will tell if that's a positive thing. I don't think it is.
Indeed it does and that's a good use of the ITT.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
The problem is the ITT gives the same result when you change the variable from PEG to a number of other things, some of which are mentioned in the article like economic well-being, healthcare, etc., others that are less plausible but just as undeniably associated with happiness - e.g., happier groups of people tend to have fair skin, live further from the equator, live close to Denmark, have low incidence of malaria, etc. etc.
Which all goes to show why interpretations of correlations are difficult. The best attitude to have is probably 'correlation does not imply causation and is only suggestive.' When the number of things correlated with the outcome variable is so large, teasing out which are and which aren't contributing factors requires controlled experiments that aren't feasible in many cases (including this one). So, we are left with guessing.
I'm down with that. I can't say I know the exact reasons some places are better than others, and I can say that I don't like it when others say they do, like the common expression (or implication) that government funded healthcare causes some of it. Nobody knows that, and that idea neglects the many examples of government funded healthcare in regions where people are seriously unhappy.
OstensiblyQuote:
Originally Posted by CoccoBill
In a sense you've right. 72% belong to a church here, while according to studies roughly 50% are agnostic or atheistic. Basic data shows us as more religious than we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Is Finland Protestant or Russian orthodox?Quote:
Originally Posted by CoccoBill
Edit: nvr mind. Never heard of evangelical lutheran though lol.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...and-today.html
Has anyone gone anywhere in the last year and not seen at least a dozen "Help Wanted" signs? I know I haven't.
So what the fuck is this??
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...rican-job.html
I'd say it derives from the belief that work itself is an economic good. It is not. Production of a new resource that people consume by choice is the economic good.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
To clarify, you can say work itself is an economic good, but that's in a more accurate view of economics, not what Bernie and others think of when they think of economics. Within the frame of the goods and services economy, work is not an economic good. But within the frame of philosophy of economics, if you benefit from work more than it costs you -- which is defined however you wish to define it -- then it is an economic good. But that's not what we're talking about here.
Holy crap!Quote:
you’ve got a 14 percent increase in restaurant closures for each dollar increase in the minimum wage
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...tcmp=obnetwork
I'd love to agree but paying tax on theoretical tips based upon the highest sectors averages is more of a scam than anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
It'd soon stop if the government was earning less from tax which is basically exactly what would happen in this situation.
wut?Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
Service industries pay tax on projected earnings do they not? Maybe this changes but I know that casino workers get fucked over as a result of this because their projected tips are based on the jobs with highest tips. It's why if you don't tip in America (or at least certain places) you're literally taking money out of peoples pockets.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
If you're a hot flirty waitress willing to take some shit this will fuck you over massively, if you're some middle aged fat bloke who does a good job and works hard you're probably benefiting. Still not a good thing imo but pointing out some of the already obvious flaws in the system.
In most jobs, it is each employee's responsibility to declare their tip income at the end of a shift, which is documented on their pay slips and taxes are deducted from their wage.
Some places pool all tips, and depending on the place, it may or may not be handled legally as income. Coffee shop tip jars as a prime example of tips not likely to be declared on income. Working any job where the employer is paying less than minimum wage due to expected tips, that's definitely being reported and taxed, though probably at a lower rate than perfectly legal.
Small dollar restaurants like Denny's probably have a spoken agreement between all the employees to declare a specific percentage of their total sales for each shift. It's always less than anyone actually makes in tips, but it is agreed upon to keep the numbers standard. That way, all the people getting tips are lying consistently, reducing the chances of a red flag being waved over any one of their heads when the IRS (or whomever they're all scared of) comes looking.
No. What sicko socialist regime do you live under?Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
This really isn't about taxes. In America, the bottom 50% of earners, which would include most tipped workers, pay effectively $0 in taxes.
Though, on some level it sort of is about taxes. Like, this minimum wage stuff only seems to come up when Dems lose on tax legislation. If they can't tax the rich, they'll just make the things they want to buy (like labor) cost more.
What I don't get is how some states apply the "regular" minimum wage to tipped workers. That seems crazy to me. It elevates the pay rate of those jobs above that of more skilled jobs like manufacturing, truck driving, warehousing, etc.
I would like to see restaurants have signs clearly visible saying either "our staff are well paid, tipping is discretionary", or "our staff our paid the minimum wage, tipping is mandatory".
Tipping culture in waiting is ridiculous. Just pay the staff more, and if that means charging more for wine or whatever, so be it. Make a business plan that works and doesn't rely on an "optional" payment that is only optional to cunts.
I've actually heard people say these exact words:Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
"I like Lyft better than Uber because you can tip the driver"
[Once upon a time, you couldn't tip your driver in the Uber app. That's since changed]
I don't think your "Full disclosure restaurant" policy will be very well received by the public Ong.
Tipping culture isn't necessarily the restaurant's fault.
Hey I'm not against people tipping if they want to tip. But if I ever say "I don't tip", the usual argument is "these people get paid the minimum wage" and it's a reasonable argument. But it would be nicer if instead they got paid more, and the consumer wasn't expected to make an "optional" payment to top up the piss poor wages of those who serve them.
It's not my fault they're on minimum wage. I'd sooner pay more for my food than have this charade. My problem is with the expectiation... it's not really tipping if you have to do it.
No in America they are on less than minimum wage and you are activey taking money from their pockets by not tipping.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
This explains it but with an industry like poker they go after people. So dealers will be classed as dealers and their rate will be based on the maximum tips from a certain game rather than as a whole hence it being more expensive. With restaurants it probably is more across the board but it's still an incorrect way of going about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
I'd prefer servers that got paid nothing and were purely based off tips but not under any obligation from the restaurant.
Your country literally does this, mine does not.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
RightQuote:
Originally Posted by Savy
Last night at the poker table I ordered a haddock dinner. I watched the girl write it down on a paper, and then carry that paper to the kitchen.
Then I didn't see that waitress again for a full 45 minutes. (there was a tournament going on, it's in a different room, and they share waitstaff)
I eventually saw a different waitress and asked her if she happened to see any haddock dinners lying around. I told her I ordered it from Samantha 45 minutes ago, and havent' seen her.
Second waitress comes back and says "I asked Samantha about your dinner, and she really didn't answer me...sooooooooo.....do you want me to ask her again?"
Stunned by the stupidity I let her off the hook. This girl obviously can't handle complicated tasks.
Eventually samantha came around with a tray of drinks for different people and I asked her about my dinner. She told me "it got skipped". I don't know what that means, but I was promised my dinner would come eventually.
And then over an hour after I ordered, it, my bland, tasteless, boring slab of fried fish arrived, and I still tipped 20%
wut?Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
As we previously discussed you're a cuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
I go into my local pub and either buy the bitter which is like £2.35 (I tip 15p) or I buy guiness £3.something I round it off to £3.50. I do this as a standard. The good people in my pub I'm more likely to tip more, if you're shit I stop tipping. It's really obvious when I stop tipping especially as I'll have mentioned the issues before hand and the people who never earn tend to be young girls who the regulars there tip just because they fancy them.
All I expect for this tip is for them to pour me a completely bog standard pint of bitter/guiness.
I was speaking in agreement with your original statement. If that's cucky, what does that make you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
You made the point that not tipping is literally taking money from people's pockets.
How do I know that the delay was the server's fault and not the kitchen's? The chefs get paid a full wage. They don't give a fuck if I tip.
Plus, I know for a fact that waitresses pool tips in this establishment (i've posted about this place before) So by not tipping, I'd be punishing the whole staff for one server's fuck up.
I can't be sure that the person responsible for the problem would be the one suffering the consequence of not tipping. And for $4, I'm not gonna split those hairs.
Because unlike a cuck I would happily take money out of her pocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
I can be pretty cocky but I don't think I'm enough of a self-righteous prick to stand in judgement over someone's livelihood and then exercise that authority in retaliation for service that I subjectively deem less-than-enthusiastic.
All over $4 I absolutely intended to spend anyway.
That's out of control fucking narcissism.
No, their fucking employers are the ones taking money out of their pockets by underpaying them. But yeah, I probably would bite the bullet and tip with a smile in USA for this very reason. I'd only tip here if I actually like the person who served me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
I fucking hate eating out anyway. You get there, sit down in a room full of other people, order, it takes what seems like four hours to bring your food out, by which time you're bored shitless of the company and starving. So you eat, everyone shuts up, nom nom, then I have to go outside for a fucking ciggie. Then it comes to paying, and it's a fuck ton more than just making something at home. Then I have to get home. This is supposed to be "socialising".
I really don't get it. If the food is fantastic, fair enough. But usually it's average, I nearly always wish I stayed at home.
And before any of you say I'm a boring old shit, I'd still fill my face with drugs and dance to techno until 6am, given the chance.
LOL tipping
Should make european heads asplode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_vivC7c_1k
https://nypost.com/2018/08/05/sorry-...ushing-poison/
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It’s baffling how we can still be considering centralized control of industries when that has never worked anywhere.
Socialism appears to be a phenomenon of ego. "I know what is best for others. All those other times other people thought they knew what was best for others and the result was disaster, those don't apply to me because I am smart and my way is the right way and I know what is best for other people."Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Huh. TIL Trump talks like socialists think.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...t-telling.html
Ha!Quote:
Sanders posts a new economically ignorant video most every day
Sanders doesn't do economics. He does feelnomics.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
This part caught my eye. I didn't look up the other three. I assume it's Booker, K. Harris, and Pocahontas. LOLQuote:
bettors rank Sanders one of the top four Democratic presidential contenders.
It's like a guaranteed bloodbath in 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3nLojzM4jI
"The future is stupid!"
Fucking hilarious!! He was *this* close to calling her a cunt.
Stay vigilant. One thing can go wrong and he would then have no chance in hell. Like if a recession happens at the time. Just like how in 2008 when the most socialist policy in the West that I know of caused an awful recession and then the voters embraced even more socialism to "fix" it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...t-beliefs.html
Her response, accusing Shapiro of sexism, is just bizarre.
this woman is easily the stupidest politician I've seen in my lifetime, and I'm old enough to remember Dan Quayle.
who thinks the Democrat party is going in the right direction....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_TYZ6VRNNg
EDIT: I actually saw this cunt talk with Chris Cuomo about Medicare-For-All and the cost. SHe claimed that there were hidden savings that come with improving the quality of healthcare. For example, Americans may save on funeral costs.
'cuz no one ever dies in Socialism
So his very first argument is that wage statistics should not just include wage earners, but everyone... including toddlers?
Get a brain. That's what SHE claimed! You've got it backwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by oskar
Follow me now....
AOC claimed that 200 million people make less than $20K. She did not specify age. What are you not understanding about that? That claim is verifiably false. Do you dispute the falseness of that number?
The video provides the correct figures. Only 58 million people make less than $20K. You do realize that 58 and 200 are completely different integers, right? Please tell me you know that.
She followed it up by claiming that those 200 million people make up 40% of the country. Please tell me how that's possible if the total population is only 325 million? Show your work.
She seems to be the one who is not differentiating between earners and non-earners. The video corrects her by citing the actual statistics that specify wage earners.
Kind of amazing how you deluded yourself into twisting that around just to appease your socialist boner.
https://youtu.be/t_TYZ6VRNNg?t=58s
He objects to her 40% number - either rounded up from 36 (bad practice when talking about economics) or possibly using more recent statistics - by saying that's ~40% of wage earners, not the entire country, so he wants the number to be less than that on the basis that not everyone is a wage earner, and those people should be included, which would include toddlers. This is what I said, the rest is you projecting.
To be fair, i think AOC says some pretty dippy shit in that video.
Here, she sounds a lot more sensible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFVMmpOZzS8
No, you're completely cracked in your interpretation here. Ask poop, he'll tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by oskar
She said, that the population of people earning under 20K is 200 million people. She also said that represents 40 percent "of this country". She didn't say "40% of wage earners". She said "40 percent of this country"
Explain how that's even remotely true.
That she has a bachelor's degree in economics shows just how awful a state the academic establishment is in that field. It's producing graduates who believe things that oppose the foundation that the entire field depends upon.
I experienced this as I was getting the degree. Understanding what we were doing was secondary to simply making a case for a claim based on non-rigorous assessment of a narrow set of data.
What's truly stunning is that she has been trotted out as the face of the progressive-left (when was the last time you saw a congressional primary candidate do so many talk shows?).
It seems to prove definitively that they are hopelessly incapable of viewing the world through anything other than the lens of identity politics. They can't see past her gender, her race, her age, and her attractiveness. They hold this delusional belief that any criticism of her could ONLY be born out of racism, misogyny, or some other form of hate.
It's truly alarming.
This broad thinks that improving medicare will reduce funeral costs and she got 17,000 votes.
Alarming
You have a degree in economics.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
With many insights into the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by oskar
I'm physically ill.....
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...capitalism-act
BTW the phrase "Accountable Capitalism" is redundant
Yeah I read the first paragraph and was thinking "she doesn't really know anything about this does she?"Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Basically what she's describing is an ESOP, or profit-sharing plan. That's something that already exists and is considered when a person decides whether or not to accept a job. If that's something people really want, they're free to seek jobs with firms that offer it. If this is something that workers (not just ideologues) actually want, then a competitive employment market will provide it for them.
She says things that are not factually true, like that earnings have not kept up with production. They have. Dishonest people have sliced out pieces of data and presented only it in order to say otherwise.
Germany in the 90s had some real fantastic experience with the sort of thing she proposes. What they experienced is that when you delete the kinds of short-sighted restrictions she proposes to create, your employment increases incredibly.
Hahahahaha that dumb bitch you made up sure is stupid!
What a dumb cunt.
I hope she dies!
oh no....she exists.
Ever been to Vermont?
Ever been anywhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
If people acknowledged what parts of their lives exist because of capitalism, capitalism would in the running for the most popular thing of all time.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...socialism.html
I cannot believe how this woman continues to get away with being so stupid.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...-supports.html
OoopsQuote:
low-wage jobs in the city dropped by 9 percent since 2016 and “hourly wages in such jobs increased by around 3 percent.” As a result, the study said, the city’s average worker lost $125 a month thanks to the minimum wage hike
Except that feelings are more important than facts and logic.
Just saw a sign today outside McDonalds. They're hiring 14 year olds now.
I know Trump is an economic god, but this is getting a little ridiculous. That means the unemployment rate is effectively 0%
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...data-show.html
It's actually painful to think that every single person who supports this woman has called Trump "dumb"
Yeah I mean I'm guilty of saying "fuck Tesco" and then doing my shopping there because it's convenient, but then again I'm not a politician saying "fuck Tesco" out loud for all to hear.
Nothing happens to me if I get accused of being a moronic hypocrite. I lose no sleep and give zero fucks.
Too bad she doesn't have a lawyer that can take funds from her campaign to buy the story and squash it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Well, there's a surprise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUOSdC2-9Tk&t=285s
Is gullible-ness over-represented among Fox news viewers?
Or is it over-represented in old people, who are over-represented among Fox News Viewers.
Actually, old people are less gullible than young people. Go figure.
And I'm pretty sure the ad for a vest with 17 internal pockets is being aimed at active types who actually leave their houses sometimes.
Stop with this. Your boy Pakman explains it all the beginning of the video. We're talking about cheesy marketing ads making hyperbolic claims about the effectiveness of their products. Teenagers aren't buying the fucking Clapper dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Anecdotally, I would also say that Nursing homes don't seem to be ripping off folks in their 20's very much.
I've never gotten a call from Russian computer hackers pretending to be agents from Microsoft and telling me to let them log into my computer to make "security updates". However, my parents and all their friends have had it happen to them multiple times.
Don't know if you watched the video, but this guy wasn't selling the clapper. He was selling vests with a bunch of inside pockets in them. The people wearing them in the ad were all young people, acting like they have so much shit to carry and need this vest. If only.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
They're obviously targeting young people with this product. And yes, there are gullible young morons out there too and yes they mostly watch Fox News.
I find that surprising given how many people in their 20s lives in nursing homes.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand