Werewolf - Collapse of Civilization

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

And everybody else clearly has no desire to figure out what's actually going on. Because the ENTIRE case for me is a relatively newb player thinking he has a soulread from Day One.

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Um, no. Here's why.
Even though I'm thinking that BR wouldn't slip up like I wrote in this post:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2053720
and that he was actually trying some sort of day 1 level instead, by lynching wuf we get the answer to that question.

If we lynch him and wuf's a wolf then we need to decide who's next.
If he's a villager then, imo, that puts boog and hoopy under suspicion.

As for wuf acting suspicious, like I posted earlier, wuf stated that he was going to play different PRIOR to the game even starting:

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2052747.

The only suspicion that I see against wuf is the bigred post which could be a landmine in that he might have named villagers instead.

But w/e I think we need to at least see if that idea leads us somewhere.

I'm gonna let my vote for wuf stand.

I hope you know, my suspicion of you has nothing to do with you playing differently.

The first wolfy vibe I got from you came at the point the boog wagon fell apart.

12.21am BST...

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Originally Posted by bikes

boog's life has been on the fritz according to fb since the hurricane and the loss of power and the internet

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12.25...

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

didnt know that. cant lynch boog now

rescind boog

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I can't put my finger on it, but this seemed off.

Then, one minute later, you post this...

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

lynch dtb because he made a good case for jumping on the boog wagon but instead chose hoopy so that means both dtb and boog are wolves and dtb is protecting the afk boog

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DTB didn't make a case against boog, a point I made in this post...

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

DTB did not make a case against boog, he made a case against fulksy and hoopy. Wuf took it as a case against boog, and bolds DTB as a result. Suspect, if you ask me.

Benny defends wuf and then bolds hoopy.

Gabe unbolds wuf and bolds hoopy when the heat was piling on wuf.

Gator defends wuf then goes for bikes.

Wilbur unbolds wuf and goes for bikes.

Boog doesn't like a wuf lynch.

Overall, I think lynching either bikes or wuf gives us by far the most information, certainly more than what we'd normally expect to get from a day one lynch. I'm sticking with wuf, and if he's a wolf, we should string up bikes very quickly and look at the info we have from that.

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The same names keep cropping up here... wuf, bikes, hoopy... there's so much info muddled up in all of this, that stringing you up seems to be the logical thing for the village to do.

Look, if you're a villager, I'm sorry I came hard after you. But we need to know now. To me, your posts are, currently, a meaningless attempt to save your sorry arse. If we discover you're a villager, they become critical in our strategy.

Just know that wufisms and shania play no part in my attack. I can't speak for others.

I'm not even going to pretend like I have a clue what's going on here. Here's what I got so far...

Wuf has a gigantic ego (nothing he or anybody else doesn't know)

Ong is a fucking maniac

Shotglass thinks Jack Daniels is awesome, and so do I, so I'mma go and drink some and hopefully not look at this shit until tomorrow.

I think letting this day drag out is a good idea because it's a long weekend and more peeps gotta post.

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wuf - 7 (ongbonga, shotglass, boog, philly, lolz, fulksy, benny)
lolz - (gator)
jackvance - 1 (gabe)

10 needed to lynch.

Where the fuck is hoopy? He's my target tomorrow if wuf is a wolf. If wuf isn't a wolf, I'll have to start again from post fucking one, if I survive the vig's shot.

Rescind Wufwugy because him getting lynched on a weekend when others haven't had a chance to see/post in this thread would annoy me.

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Originally Posted by supa

Ong is a fucking maniac

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That, sir, might but true, but you know what else is true? If everyone put the effort in that I am to figure this shit out, it would be an easy win for the village every time. I think I just take it a little too seriously... I'm a competitive cunt at the best of times.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Look, if you're a villager, I'm sorry I came hard after you.

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They ALWAYS come hard at me. I haven't yet been lynched because I'm crazy good at defense posts, and after I'm lynched in this game I will contend it's because I choose to not shred the arguments against me.

I have learned a lot about how to play this game, and part of that is that playing the way I did in the first few games and playing in such a way that I must rely so heavily on defenses is not that fun, no good for longevity, and terrible for merging play as a wolf.

The dumb thing is that I'm so prone towards defenses that I end up putting up these pseudo-defenses when I'm trying to not have a repeat of a game where everybody expects me to post in a way I try not to. I guess this is how I can put it: what I normally do is baller the shit out of defense posts and convince everybody to not lynch, it hasn't failed yet. But I don't want to have to play like that in every single game so I want to get lynched as a regular villager playing the way I want to play, but I find myself in a cross between those two where I'm trying to convince people to figure out for themselves why lynching me here is wrong, but if they choose to lynch me then awesome I finally played a villager game without having to rely on my defenses to get me by even the smallest obstacles

I tried doing this in the last game. It started out fine, but quit that plan due to particular circumstances developing a cool and what I thought was fool proof idea I just had to go with

The bottom line is that when I was a wolf, my team lost because I got seer'd because I was evolving my play style. I put up a fucking awesome defense post in that game, and y'all were dropping off my wagon like flies, but that didn't stop me from getting seer'd. I'm trying to avoid that mistake a second time, and the way I can do that is by convincing people that I'm gonna play however I want to play regardless of role. Apparently, I'm not doing a good job at it



Frankly, I should just shut up and let you guys lynch me. That would be the best way to merge how I want to play the rest of my games. But Imma gabby motherfucker sometiems...

How the fuck does this game move along so fast? Sorry guys, but it's been a busy week. Made some posts after deadline yesterday apparently and rilla deleted them. Will be participating more this weekend.

First thoughts...on a comparative WPP basis, wufwugy has a different scent this game, but I'm not bolding yet either.

Also, the best argument for me being a wolf is the fact that I keep encouraging my own wagon, as that could be something I'd wanna do as a wolf. It's certainly better than the trash others have come up with. Don't forget that my wagon caught most of its steam because I responded to accusations with jokes and nothing serious. I could have easily headed that shit off at the pass. If you're gonna lynch me, the fact that I could be fucking around and doing that as a wolf is much better than the cryptic soulread shit out there right now.

The arguments others have put up are weaksauce and egowugy could plow through those like he does Benny's mom. But I don't need to plow through those because the two people responsible for my wagon are on their first and second Day Twos trying to be all soulready and shit.

I mean, what, bigred was trying to communicate to wulfwugy with posts exactly like the way he would do if he wasn't trying to communicate to wulfwugy? Fucking LOL, don't make papawugy break out the belt

The fact of the matter is that I'm going to be the lynch of this day unless you guys decide on your own why I shouldn't be. But y'all are letting the least veteran of players to run shit, so I don't see that happening. But I have already proven to youse that I'm a villager due to the fact that I have not even attempted to derail my own wagon by making up a different one. See, that would be important for me to do if I was a wolf. There aren't two ways about it because it's the only way I could not be lynched today. In order to not lynch me, there has to be a different wagon to choose, and there ain't shit, and there ain't gonna be shit since everybody is playing follow-the-leader. I'm my only hope, and not trying to save myself would be doing a disservice to my own team for several reasons

I'm honestly torn on wuf and could go either way, although right now I am leaning toward leaving him here for a while.

The problem with the Onga/Wuf battle is that it is allowing people like lolzzz, JV, supa and Warpe to make minimal posts (we will see if Warpe posts more over the weekend).

I think I like my lolzzz pick more that wuf at the moment.

WTF? Shoulda done what I said but got drunk and opened this godforsaken thread anyway. Gator, you ain't brought shit to this game so don't start talking about how the rest of us are making minimal posts. Yeah, the wuf ong thing is redic and the rest of are trying to figure it all out but jfc it's day 2 so nobody really has much to go on.

Anywho, Lynch Gator

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

I'm honestly torn on wuf and could go either way, although right now I am leaning toward leaving him here for a while.

The problem with the Onga/Wuf battle is that it is allowing people like lolzzz, JV, supa and Warpe to make minimal posts (we will see if Warpe posts more over the weekend).

I think I like my lolzzz pick more that wuf at the moment.

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Add Gabe to that list.

Gabe, Lolzzz, Warpe, JV.

All not saying much and would be nice if they did.

I also find it odd that Benny, who in Rilla's absence I expect to take a leading role, seems to allow Ong to lead and then joins the bandwagon ong has started. Something is very odd about him this game. In fact I could be persuaded to lynch him if there was a wagon on him, but I don't think it's worth me starting one.

As far as I can tell, the wuf wagon (for everyone except Ong) is based around nothing more than Bigreds behavior and Wuf not really defending himself (which makes me want to lynch wuf out of spite), but it irks me that we allow a noob ego to run around screaming soul read. I wanna not follow him on principle.

So lynch hoopy just to give us an alteranative and for reasons I've already stated. And where the fuck is he anyway?

after wuf i say we go after gabe then ongabonga, both show up on rillas last 10 recent visitors (so they're prolly clicking that to send a pm) but gabe rarely frequents FTR so I guess he'd have a higher probability?

dear gator,
no
thanks,
lolzzz_321

i see gator and philly on dere too, is philly playing not sure?

I see rilla is in gabes last 10 visitiors so that makes me more suspicious

meh looks like rillas clicked on all of us, well rillas last 10 were bigred, benny, danaaron, gabe, gator, kiwimark (not playing, ya?), me! , ongabonga, philly, willbur

My thinking is since kiwi isn't playing the other nine people are either rando clicking, snopping w/e, or special roles

You realise your on that list, right? So ate you yelling us you're a special/wolf?

Either way your theory doesn't hold up because I'm a regular villager.

Dear everyone, stop talking about balance and shania when you don't understand the concept. Thanks.


still going with my hoopy lynch as his posts make abso no sense to me.

Sorry mom.

its very unlikely bigred took heat off wuf to protect him. this would be a bad move so early in the game because it so obviously leads back to an accomplice. thus i think a majority of the time wuf is just a villager and bigred was happy to burn him.

we can lynch wuf but im betting my next choice on him being a villager. anyone else on the JV wagon now???

ya but im the most worthless special role ever, medium, but i mean obv one of those peeps is a wolf

also rilla sent the shiz out in alphabetical order so the people that aren't in the bottom 10 on my list above = most suspicious IMO

dead bigred said gabe is not a villager, wuf certainly is, hoopy bandwagon derailment is odd fwiw

gonna go with lynch danaaaaroonnn cuz he said he's a reg vig

Morning. So wuf is going to wriggle his neck out of the noose huh? How did he manage that? By screaming "stop following the noob"? There's a few egos battling with me here, I get the impression that certain people would rather us string up a random because they don't want to see me nail a wolf. My case against wuf is not ego, it's not balance, it's me thinking that I got the sucker figured out. Seriously, if he shows up as a villager, I will take it as a slap down and shut the fuck up this early in the future. If he turns up a wolf, well I guess I got lucky again blah blah.

I got nothing more to add until we know what wuf is. I'm not interested in arguing with people about soulreading. No-one gave rilla this shit when he owned the wolves last game.

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Originally Posted by supa

Gator, you ain't brought shit to this game so don't start talking about how the rest of us are making minimal posts.

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Remember what happened last time he did this? Same game he steam rolled the village by his lonesome because nobody would listen to me.

lynch Gator

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Originally Posted by DanAronG

I also find it odd that Benny, who in Rilla's absence I expect to take a leading role

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I've actually been trying to. I've been posting, certainly more than all of you but maybe 1 or 2 and you guys (the macro "you guys") didn't want to have the logic platter I was serving Hoopy on and now it's ONLY DAY 2.

That said, kinda funny you're expecting leadership from me. This is only my 5th ww game. And the reality is, I have no better ideas at the moment.

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

But I have already proven to youse that I'm a villager due to the fact that I have not even attempted to derail my own wagon by making up a different one. See, that would be important for me to do if I was a wolf

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No, wuf, it's important for you to do as a villager as well. If you're a villager, you can't let us make this mistake if you can help us win. There is no strong case against another player at the moment. All of us, including you, should be searching for one.

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Originally Posted by lolzzz_321

meh looks like rillas clicked on all of us, well rillas last 10 were bigred, benny, danaaron, gabe, gator, kiwimark (not playing, ya?), me! , ongabonga, philly, willbur

My thinking is since kiwi isn't playing the other nine people are either rando clicking, snopping w/e, or special roles

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I clicked on some ppl looking for timing tells, then clicked on nearly everyone else to cover my tracks.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Seriously, if he shows up as a villager, I will take it as a slap down and shut the fuck up

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well you make a good argument for lynching wuf!!! but the point is to keep the villagers alive..

I really don't understand how any non-wolf can claim with any confidence that wuf is a villager. He's been acting a lot wolfier than your vote choice, who you seem to have picked out of a hat.

I'll be happy to target JV if he's still alive in a few days, but for now I don't see anything unusual about him hanging back, especially since people seem to get slated for trying to read people so early.

wait did lolz just say hes the medium

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Originally Posted by supa

WTF? Shoulda done what I said but got drunk and opened this godforsaken thread anyway. Gator, you ain't brought shit to this game so don't start talking about how the rest of us are making minimal posts. Yeah, the wuf ong thing is redic and the rest of are trying to figure it all out but jfc it's day 2 so nobody really has much to go on.

Anywho, Lynch Gator

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Revenge vote..... how sweet

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

wait did lolz just say hes the medium

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yea the game got hacked, we're gonna win

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Originally Posted by DropTheBanana

Remember what happened last time he did this? Same game he steam rolled the village by his lonesome because nobody would listen to me.

lynch Gator

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I continue to take offense to this. When I was a wolf I worked my ass off to win that game.

As for this game anyone who has played more than one game with me knows that I sit back and watch things early in the game. It is always a crap shoot until we nab a wolf and THEN we can start putting the pieces of the puzzle in place.

Wuf,
It sucks for you that you had such a polarizing style of play the first couple of games. Unfortunately you may have to go through some early lynch's as a villager (if you are one that is) for the new wuf to become the norm. In this game I could go either way as Onga seems to have done a better job at making a case for you to be a wolf than you have in being a villager.

Btw, if you are a wolf then Bigred will go down as the absolute worst Turncoat ever.

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

I continue to take offense to this. When I was a wolf I worked my ass off to win that game.

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Looks like he was complimenting you. There's always that one little thing that coulda changed everything. Nobody's saying you didn't play that game very well; it's the best one I've seen you do after all

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Btw, if you are a wolf then Bigred will go down as the absolute worst Turncoat ever.

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You just made a better case for me as villager than those for me as wolf.

At first it was: "wuf is off, something's wrong", but none of the vets bought that due to last game, so that went on by

Then it was: "bigred was protecting wuf", but he wasn't because there was little heat on me

Then it became: "bigred was trying to communicate with wuf", but I pointed out how what bigred did was actually indistiguishable from what he would do if he wasn't trying to communicate with me, and now you just pointed out that in order for bigred to have been communicating with me, he would have to be making bad decisions. But bigred isn't a bad player....

Lolzzz coming out makes very little sense to me, unless he misunderstood completly how the medium works.

At this point I think that Hoopy is our best choice, followed by Wuf. I am not bolding yet, I would like to hear Hoopy's take on the events so far

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

But bigred isn't a bad player....

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Wait, what? Bigred has grown on me in my time at this forum, he used to annoy me but now I find him amusing and generally appreciate his light hearted manner. However, as far as WW is concerned, I've seen him spray random bullets around as vig, lolocat his way through as villager, and fuck up the turncoat role on day one because he didn't play his usual game and thus stood out from the rest. I don't think he's in the same league as people like gator, JV, even you wuf. There's no polite way to say ths... I don't think he's a particularly good player, he's rarely a benefit to the village. I'll wait to see how he plays a wolf role before I call him bad.

Point is, he made a mess of his role this game. I can believe he left dirty great big footprints.

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Originally Posted by lolzzz_321

ya but im the most worthless special role ever, medium, but i mean obv one of those peeps is a wolf

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Looks like lolz is indeed the medium. I don't have a problem with him outing, it saves him from the vig and means the angel isn't going to protect a wolf, unless it's a fake outing, of course, but I don't see why he'd out himself with barely any heat on him.

With Hoopy, I was busting him for not contributing, then he did for a while but now he isn't again. If not wuf, I'd lynch Hoopy or any non-contributor, really (with some patience for Jack and Warpe, since they have shown to be good in the past but I think we really do need to see some contributions this Game Day).

I'm always a fan of the systematic approach; weed out those not offering information, then apply logic in the late game with your best villagers in tow. Without strong reads, it's optimal villager strategy.

I'll be left wondering what the weird posts by bigred toward wuf were about but we can use it later if need be.

lolzzz what?

Seriously, why would you out as a Medium? It increases the odds that the Wolves find the angel!!!

I don't even think there's any chance ever that this is a fake outing either. I'm just gonna slap you with the "Medium tag" and move on. I think the biggest problem is: You're a confirmed villager, and so you're going to die a lot earlier than non-confirmed villagers. So for someone that doesn't get to play often, where surviving as long as possible would be considered a premium... good job man... :eyeroll:

I seriously am back to just staring at Ongie vs Wuf and wondering why certain people are allowing this stuff to just flow over without any analysis.

LOL How is Bigred always regarded as a good player? He won a flip once. That's it.

Bigred CAN play well. He generally gets bored though and does weird shit for entertainment.

How would you know? I thought you only played 5 games.

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Originally Posted by DanAronG

How would you know? I thought you only played 5 games.

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5 games is plenty to judge someone's skill. 5 games is not enough to be compared to a veteran like rilla.

Where's your leadership, Dan?

So lolz is the medium, I can't see a fake out as worth it so let's assume its true, angel protects him obv. But why the out at all?

As for the days lynch, I'm still down with hoop for non contribution now as well as the other points I've already made.

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Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

5 games is plenty to judge someone's skill. 5 games is not enough to be compared to a veteran like rilla.

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Evidently not

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Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

Where's your leadership, Dan?

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I suck and I'm lazy.

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Originally Posted by BooG690

LOL How is Bigred always regarded as a good player? He won a flip once. That's it.

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yeah, I would have to agree with this. And in that game he was confirmed as the angel early so he could screw off and get away with it.

LOLZZZ is saying that the list he posted earlier are all very likely non-villagers. he deduced this from people's personal profiles site visitor list. someone called him on the fact he was in it, and he admitted to being a non villager, but one we can trust. he also gave what he learned as the medium.

so we should pick someone on the list, while getting the dead to see lolzz while the angel is protecting him. its ok that he admitted to being the medium because we are always gonna win if hes right, and if hes lying its easy to verify. this lynch is a good start

lynch danaaron

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

Revenge vote..... how sweet

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Nah, just drunken babble. Almost came back with an "I love you man" but I think I was dancing naked in the backyard by then, really not sure about that one.

However it would be awesome if it was crazy drunk soul reading.

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Originally Posted by gabe

he also gave what he learned as the medium.

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lol, no

He might be the medium but even if bigred would have responded, he couldn't have given two pieces of info.

Well how about we pick you instead gabe? You haven't come up with much beside trying to lynch one of the best players without much reason and you're also on Lolzzz's list of rilla visits.

dont lynch me, im not a wolf. i know i sent rilla a PM a day or 2 before the game started about something. this would affect that right? how many of you PMed him about anything?

benny: he didnt say bigred gave 2 pieces of info. "lol no"

Well I click on tonnes of peoples names/profiles due to using my phone. Rilla more than any as every time I click on the commune there's a good chance that I'll click rilla's name by mistake. I guarantee I've clicked on kmind recently as well as I click on him when I go in to the BC.

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Originally Posted by lolzzz_321

dead bigred said gabe is not a villager, wuf certainly is, hoopy bandwagon derailment is odd fwiw

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Gabe, this is what he said. I'm suggesting this is two things:

You're not a villager
Wuf is

But the crazy part is that we would believe anything the turncoat says through the medium.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Wait, what? Bigred has grown on me in my time at this forum, he used to annoy me but now I find him amusing and generally appreciate his light hearted manner. However, as far as WW is concerned, I've seen him spray random bullets around as vig,

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Just like every vig. Most of what we think is right turns out wrong, it's just the nature of the game

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lolocat his way through as villager,

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Which everybody laments is such a good way for him to hide

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and fuck up the turncoat role on day one because he didn't play his usual game and thus stood out from the rest.

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That isn't what happened though. This is why I keep saying you're fabricating stuff. Bigred DIDN'T stand out much until after I got his wagon going. Then after his wagon was going he posted slightly different than normal like how he did when he was vig and gabe tried to railroad him. He didn't fuck up the turncoat role, not even close. He played it just fine; the only mistake he made was in not being a very active poster normally so if he tried to go out of his way to derail his own wagon, he would then look very suspicious. The fact is that he was neck and neck with hoopy, and he was actually winning the race until Dan flipped

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I don't think he's in the same league as people like gator, JV, even you wuf.

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I'm not as good as they are.

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There's no polite way to say ths... I don't think he's a particularly good player, he's rarely a benefit to the village. I'll wait to see how he plays a wolf role before I call him bad.

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Don't misunderstand me. I said he's not a bad player in that he's not just gonna fuck something up. He's also not a great ASSET due to systemic aspects of his game where he just kinda farts around, but he's not stupid and he's not gonna be a good candidate for doing something like "absolutely fucking up turncoat"

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Point is, he made a mess of his role this game. I can believe he left dirty great big footprints.

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He didn't, you're making stuff up. Bigred died because a bunch of people wanted to lynch bigred for entirely different reasons, and I provided that excuse by pointing it out and churning the wagon

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

I continue to take offense to this. When I was a wolf I worked my ass off to win that game.

As for this game anyone who has played more than one game with me knows that I sit back and watch things early in the game. It is always a crap shoot until we nab a wolf and THEN we can start putting the pieces of the puzzle in place.

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No, you deserve credit for that ass whooping you laid on us.

I realize you like to soak up the action before jumping into the mix and that's cool by me. Just saying the "you're not posting anything, you need to contribute more (even though I am doing the same thing)" posts are congruent to that game.

I'm out of town until early tomorrow, then I can read through today a little more thorough but for now I'm sticking with my vote.

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Originally Posted by lolzzz_321

meh looks like rillas clicked on all of us, well rillas last 10 were bigred, benny, danaaron, gabe, gator, kiwimark (not playing, ya?), me! , ongabonga, philly, willbur

My thinking is since kiwi isn't playing the other nine people are either rando clicking, snopping w/e, or special roles

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Wait a second. What is this? Is this a list of all the people rilla has PM'd lately or what?

Yeah, the Rilla list sucks. Mods now know enough to click everybody to avoid any kinds of tells after the debacle that happened in that one game that Bigred modded.

Can we kill Hoopy now? He has enough heat on him to where he should have posted by now if he were a special.

Rescind Wuf
Lynch Hoopy

Seems like jeetin'.

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Originally Posted by lolzzz_321

i see gator and philly on dere too, is philly playing not sure?

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yea i just use the same tell as you do...lol i try and scope that list and cross reference everyones shit. Boog/DanA and me are like always on rillas list so idont really think too much when i see them on it (althuogh boog is always either a special or a wolf so i guess hes probably one again!?!?)

im not leveling with this question, i honestly dont know the current answer

do all the wolves have to PM rilla? or do they have a forum just for them and rilla reads the posts? im trying to figure out wolf probabilities on that list.

I really don't know why lolz even bothered to contact bigred. He's on their team, bigred cannot be trusted, it just throws up more confusion when we allow confirmed baddies to have a voice. Just look what happened when I didn't shoot ragnar when I was vig... he comes up with some bullshit list and everyone is running around in circles.

I'm just going to ignore bigred's dead comments.

And this list of rillas is bollocks, too. I can confirm I have had a message off rilla in the last few days. Didn't everyone? I reckon I got mine after lolz. There's a fucking soulread.

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Originally Posted by gabe

im not leveling with this question, i honestly dont know the current answer

do all the wolves have to PM rilla? or do they have a forum just for them and rilla reads the posts? im trying to figure out wolf probabilities on that list.

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no if you click rillas profile you can see "recent visitors" so you can see who has recently been on his profile....usually the people who are most recent on there are the ones who have to PM rilla each night

When I was seer I just did the RE: thing, so no visiting profile page

lynch hoopy

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Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

no if you click rillas profile you can see "recent visitors" so you can see who has recently been on his profile....usually the people who are most recent on there are the ones who have to PM rilla each night

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Yeah, but clicking on rilla's profile to see who looked at rilla's profile makes you appear on rilla's profile.

It's the kind of thing where you have to check and go AHA rather than talk about openly.

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Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

no if you click rillas profile you can see "recent visitors" so you can see who has recently been on his profile....usually the people who are most recent on there are the ones who have to PM rilla each night

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I know why I clicked his profile... I was lurking when the day was due to begin, and had a look to see if he was or had been online.

Problem with this list is, it only takes one wolf to bark orders. Also, the angel is likely to be lurking on this list. And a whole heap of villagers. Hardly sounds +ev to base our strategy around it. I'm not happy it's been brought up, we now have an exposed medium, and the angel is in danger. Hope we have a baller vig. I advise the vig keeps his head down tonight by replying to the message of rilla in your inbox, rather than going to his profile.

Also, while this is an issue, all villagers have a duty to click rilla's profile to help protect the specials.

Not convinced lolz is the medium. I straight up do not understand why he would post what he did how he did, and I figure that only dead villagers count as Dead. Medium asking for opinion of wolves or turncoat is retarded, and I'm not even sure if rilla wouldn't just say gtfo if lolz asked to talk to bigred

It's a sucky way to get reads imo. It's like looking at the bottom card of a deck if the dealer flashes it to you.

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

Not convinced lolz is the medium. I straight up do not understand why he would post what he did how he did, and I figure that only dead villagers count as Dead. Medium asking for opinion of wolves or turncoat is retarded, and I'm not even sure if rilla wouldn't just say gtfo if lolz asked to talk to bigred

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I don't get a lot about his outing and his behaviour, but why the fuck would he say he's the medium if he's not? He wasn't getting any heat, he had 1 vote compared to your 7 or whatever you had at the time. If he's a wolf it's the most retarded move I've seen, even more retarded than anything SDM has pulled off.

Look at the time, ldo. Alcohol was a factor in the crash.

The time lolzz posted, I mean.

You're right, but I'm not convinced he wasn't simply making a joke. I thought he was because it's worded like a dumb joke and nobody seemed to pay attention to it immediately afterwards, so I thought it was a joke. But it wasn't funny like in the slightest, so I question that it's a joke and maybe he's serious. But if he's serious wtf that's just retarded...

We need clarity here