Russians vs. Americans: A Werewolf Game for October 2015

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10-12-2015, 04:18 PM
a500lbgorilla

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Originally Posted by Beck Novo

Can you point out Luco's for me?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

The way this is worded is pinging me.

You've bolded her but haven't directly called her wolfy, just alluded to it. And that last sentence just smells like giving yourself an out for later.

Here she is.
10-12-2015, 04:18 PM
BankItDrew

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Originally Posted by Luco

I thought you rescinded bigred because of the potential substitute?

3) ...
10-12-2015, 04:20 PM
a500lbgorilla

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Remember last game when I called kami 'bigred 2.0'? Yeah that. I remember FTR killing me off every D1 because of my shat play, so now that I'm trying to be one of the more active players - I want to sweep the garbage under the rug.

Bigred is crap, I'd be thrilled with a lynch there for that very reason.
I'd be satisfied with a kami lynch for the same reason - I'm yet to see much of a difference between the two.

I meant the OB tone read. Usually I have a solid villager read on OB by now and it ain't there. What were you seeing here?
10-12-2015, 04:24 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beck Novo

Can you point out Luco's for me?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

The way this is worded is pinging me.

You've bolded her but haven't directly called her wolfy, just alluded to it. And that last sentence just smells like giving yourself an out for later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Here she is.

You really think I couldn't make that post as a wolf?
10-12-2015, 04:24 PM
BankItDrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

I meant the OB tone read. Usually I have a solid villager read on OB by now and it ain't there. What were you seeing here?

As far as tone goes, when I read ongs posts, they feel like manufactured wolf posts. They're less convincing because it doesn't seem as though he's convinced. How often does village ong say things like "so and so is always a wolf here"? The only time ong's done that this game was after I called him a wolf and he looked at me. Which in itself is weaksauce, especially for ong who is usually a much stronger player.
10-12-2015, 04:25 PM
a500lbgorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

You really think I couldn't make that post as a wolf?

Yeah, when I read that post this morning I knew your head was in the game.
10-12-2015, 04:26 PM
Top Tier Tom

BankItDrew is either a villager or one of the smoothest wolves I've seen, tone wise.
10-12-2015, 04:28 PM
BankItDrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

BankItDrew is either a villager or one of the smoothest wolves I've seen, tone wise.

Making this my signature is not role-indicative!
10-12-2015, 04:28 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Yeah, when I read that post this morning I knew your head was in the game.

I feel slightly insulted
10-12-2015, 04:30 PM
NightGizmo

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Take a slice at wuf, gabe

Gabe -- I'm used to Gabe posting a lot more, so I'm surprised he's been so quiet. I'm not thrilled by his poisoner questions -- seems like an odd suggestion, to have the village poisoner try to match the wolf -- I'm not sure how the village poisoner is supposed to know what the wolf poisoner is going to do. Leaning on the wolfy side, but it's not a very strong read. IIRC Gabe tends to throw out any idea that pops into his head, and they are often pretty out there. I'll be more concerned if he continues to stay quiet.

Wuf -- also really quiet. I don't like how he offered himself up for a cfd, but frankly there just isn't anything in his 5 posts that triggered anything to me. He was the first to point out that we shouldn't vote for bigred because of the sub, so I'm neutral on him.
10-12-2015, 04:30 PM
BankItDrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

BankItDrew is either a villager or one of the smoothest wolves I've seen, tone wise.

As a wolf, I'm pretty terrible and obvious. Ask anyone other than wufwugy.
10-12-2015, 04:34 PM
OngBonga

banktidrew is complaining about me having four wolf reads, then complaining I'm not going "so and so is a wolf" to anyone other than him.

I'll admit he's posting freely, which is a good sign with drew. But I feel like he's twisting whatever he sees to suit his agenda. He's making judgements about my performance half way through d1? Seriously? I've been utter shit the last two games on d1. drew is talking out of his arse. His motives betray his tone here, at least afaic.
10-12-2015, 04:34 PM
a500lbgorilla

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Originally Posted by NightGizmo

Gabe -- I'm used to Gabe posting a lot more, so I'm surprised he's been so quiet. I'm not thrilled by his poisoner questions -- seems like an odd suggestion, to have the village poisoner try to match the wolf -- I'm not sure how the village poisoner is supposed to know what the wolf poisoner is going to do. Leaning on the wolfy side, but it's not a very strong read. IIRC Gabe tends to throw out any idea that pops into his head, and they are often pretty out there. I'll be more concerned if he continues to stay quiet.

On top of his out there ideas, he also pitches cryptic reads that are difficult to puzzle out - none so far.
10-12-2015, 04:35 PM
NightGizmo

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Yeah, when I read that post this morning I knew your head was in the game.

It does? All it means is that he read the thread. Honestly, to me it felt like he was reaching for something that wasn't there.
10-12-2015, 04:35 PM
OngBonga

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Making this my signature is not role-indicative!

This is a weird thing for a villager to say.
10-12-2015, 04:36 PM
a500lbgorilla

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

banktidrew is complaining about me having four wolf reads, then complaining I'm not going "so and so is a wolf" to anyone other than him.

I'll admit he's posting freely, which is a good sign with drew. But I feel like he's twisting whatever he sees to suit his agenda. He's making judgements about my performance half way through d1? Seriously? I've been utter shit the last two games on d1. drew is talking out of his arse. His motives betray his tone here, at least afaic.

You broken, m8?
10-12-2015, 04:37 PM
OngBonga

I mean why would a villager even think about making that his sig? A smug wolf might think about that.
10-12-2015, 04:37 PM
a500lbgorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by NightGizmo

It does? All it means is that he read the thread. Honestly, to me it felt like he was reaching for something that wasn't there.

This is why I don't usually offer up the direct reasons that I pick people off as villager. It's difficult to describe but I knows it when I sees it.
10-12-2015, 04:38 PM
a500lbgorilla

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

I mean why would a villager even think about making that his sig? A smug wolf might think about that.

"...But it's BID, so it's not role indicative"
10-12-2015, 04:40 PM
NightGizmo

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

On top of his out there ideas, he also pitches cryptic reads that are difficult to puzzle out - none so far.

You asked for my thoughts on Gabe, I gave you the few I had. And I don't have any real "reads" -- it's just my gut on the little information available. Which I freely admit is very thin, considering my baseline opinion of him is from quite a while ago.

Frankly, I feel a lot more confident that you're a wolf after your last few posts, and going for a wolf > eliminating a useless player. lynch rilla
10-12-2015, 04:42 PM
NightGizmo

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

On top of his out there ideas....

Also, what "out there ideas" have I had? That without reads it's a good idea to eliminate a player known to provide no value to the village?
10-12-2015, 04:42 PM
a500lbgorilla

Well, don't get married to that read.
10-12-2015, 04:43 PM
a500lbgorilla

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Originally Posted by NightGizmo

Also, what "out there ideas" have I had? That without reads it's a good idea to eliminate a player known to provide no value to the village?

I was talking about gabe. I was agreeing with you post and adding on another bit of gabe that's been missing.
10-12-2015, 04:45 PM
a500lbgorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by NightGizmo

Frankly, I feel a lot more confident that you're a wolf after your last few posts, and going for a wolf > eliminating a useless player. lynch rilla

What did you think I was posting?
10-12-2015, 04:48 PM
NightGizmo

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Bigred doesn't survive late into games often, when he does though, he still doesn't do much at all. One game he made it to a 2v1 spot as a villager and ended up picking the correct player to lynch but... 50/50 right?

His early afk stuff is never role indicative of anything other than being typical bigred.

Ha, yes, I was the lone remaining wolf in that game, and bigred actually figured me out on the last day. I got lucky that the third person went AFK and we won on a dice roll. But even in that game, he was barely around until pretty late in the game.

No reads to be found in his absence.
10-12-2015, 04:50 PM
NightGizmo

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

I was talking about gabe. I was agreeing with you post and adding on another bit of gabe that's been missing.

Lol, oops. I thought you were saying that I had out there ideas and a cryptic read on Gabe. That changes things... Sorry about that.

kami
10-12-2015, 05:01 PM
Luco

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Originally Posted by NightGizmo

You asked for my thoughts on Gabe, I gave you the few I had. And I don't have any real "reads" -- it's just my gut on the little information available. Which I freely admit is very thin, considering my baseline opinion of him is from quite a while ago.

Frankly, I feel a lot more confident that you're a wolf after your last few posts, and going for a wolf > eliminating a useless player. lynch rilla

This kneejerk vote has a villagery feel to it
10-12-2015, 05:02 PM
Beck Novo

Quote:

Originally Posted by OngBonga

I mean why would a villager even think about making that his sig? A smug wolf might think about that.

lol

You're pulling at straws now.
10-12-2015, 05:07 PM
lilrascal

Just got in from work.
10-12-2015, 05:07 PM
lilrascal

Luco, are you here for a few minutes to interact in real time?
10-12-2015, 05:09 PM
Top Tier Tom

I have a lot of villagers, and not enough wolves

So either you guys have wolves that are pretty damn good at appearing villagery, or the wolves are some slanky mofos
10-12-2015, 05:09 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

I have a lot of villagers, and not enough wolves

So either you guys have wolves that are pretty damn good at appearing villagery, or the wolves are some slanky mofos

Some of the first, but I'm leaning more on the latter.
10-12-2015, 05:13 PM
lilrascal

Still waiting to see if Luco shows up.

I've been skimming the thread to get the votes for my spreadsheet. While I agree that Kami isn't very helpful, I don't think that her lynch on D1 will give us any info.
10-12-2015, 05:15 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

Luco, are you here for a few minutes to interact in real time?

Ayy
10-12-2015, 05:15 PM
Luco

HURRY UP RASCAL
10-12-2015, 05:15 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

Ayy

I have a quick question for you.
10-12-2015, 05:16 PM
lilrascal

Luco, what's your first thought when you hear Russians vs. Americans?
10-12-2015, 05:17 PM
Luco

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

Luco, what's your first thought when you hear Russians vs. Americans?

It was rocky IV until i got my role pm
10-12-2015, 05:17 PM
gabe

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Gabe is usually much more active with a very good content:quality ratio. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he mentioned being afk for much of D1. If I'm wrong in that - then gabe is odd this game.

for the record i did not say i would be AFK much on day 1. i said i was going to come at this game hard.

i had a crazy day yesterday on draftkings that culminates in the MNF game tonight. multiple huge scores are possible if keenan allen goes off. hard to focus on werewolf throughout the day so when i finally got settled i read the thread and just spit out what was in my head

dsaxton seems wolfy but we cant lynch him. pretty much everyone participating heavily i want to keep alive
10-12-2015, 05:18 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

It was rocky IV until i got my role pm

Why would you think Rocky IV? That's such an odd connection to make. Which is why your post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

Finally a rocky IV themed ww

DRAGOOOOO!

pinged me.
10-12-2015, 05:19 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

Why would you think Rocky IV? That's such an odd connection to make. Which is why your post:

pinged me.

Because it's a classic usa v russia movie?
10-12-2015, 05:19 PM
lilrascal

Rocky IV and the name Drago that you mentioned are very specific and pings me as something you meant for wolf chat instead of the game thread.
10-12-2015, 05:20 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

Rocky IV and the name Drago that you mentioned are very specific and pings me as something you meant for wolf chat instead of the game thread.

this was not worth waiting for
10-12-2015, 05:20 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

Because it's a classic usa v russia movie?

Not so much, IMO. When did you last see that movie?
10-12-2015, 05:20 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

Not so much, IMO. When did you last see that movie?

last year?
10-12-2015, 05:21 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

last year?

Are you really that big a Rocky fan? I had to google it to remember which one was the one with the russian and then look for the boxer's name.
10-12-2015, 05:23 PM
Luco

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

Are you really that big a Rocky fan? I had to google it to remember which one was the one with the russian and then look for the boxer's name.

I have the 6 movie boxset. And rocky IV is the best of them all
10-12-2015, 05:25 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

I have the 6 movie boxset. And rocky IV is the best of them all

That may be, but I still find it very suspicious, especially when it's your third post in the game.
10-12-2015, 05:26 PM
a500lbgorilla

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

for the record i did not say i would be AFK much on day 1. i said i was going to come at this game hard.

i had a crazy day yesterday on draftkings that culminates in the MNF game tonight. multiple huge scores are possible if keenan allen goes off. hard to focus on werewolf throughout the day so when i finally got settled i read the thread and just spit out what was in my head

dsaxton seems wolfy but we cant lynch him. pretty much everyone participating heavily i want to keep alive

How's that now?
10-12-2015, 05:26 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

That may be, but I still find it very suspicious, especially when it's your third post in the game.

I don't know what you think you've found there rascal

but when I die you're getting egg on your face
10-12-2015, 05:26 PM
lilrascal

Especially when your first post is a peek, your second is a vote on Rilla and then this reference to Rocky IV and Drago.

I'm not buying it.
10-12-2015, 05:27 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

Especially when your first post is a peek, your second is a vote on Rilla and then this reference to Rocky IV and Drago.

I'm not buying it.

Dude we did all this last game, focus
10-12-2015, 05:27 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

I don't know what you think you've found there rascal

but when I die you're getting egg on your face

I've caught wolves on simple slips like this. Why'd you mention Drago instead of Rocky Balboa?
10-12-2015, 05:28 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

Especially when your first post is a peek, your second is a vote on Rilla and then this reference to Rocky IV and Drago.

I'm not buying it.

vote on rilla was a reference to a commune post he made about hydrocephalus: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...02#post2247902
10-12-2015, 05:29 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

I've caught wolves on simple slips like this. Why'd you mention Drago instead of Rocky Balboa?

Because at the end of the montage he shouts DRAGOOOOOO from the top of the mountain
10-12-2015, 05:30 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

vote on rilla was a reference to a commune post he made about hydrocephalus: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...02#post2247902

For the lazy: the link discusses "virtual no brainers"
10-12-2015, 05:30 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

Because at the end of the montage he shouts DRAGOOOOOO from the top of the mountain

Ok, I'll go check on that.
10-12-2015, 05:31 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

Ok, I'll go check on that.

really?
10-12-2015, 05:32 PM
Luco

rascal I've completely deconstructed your whole case. move on.
10-12-2015, 05:33 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

rascal I've completely deconstructed your whole case. move on.

No you haven't.

The link you provided, you responded to, not the other way around.
10-12-2015, 05:34 PM
Luco

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

No you haven't.

The link you provided, you responded to, not the other way around.

What does this even mean?
10-12-2015, 05:35 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

vote on rilla was a reference to a commune post he made about hydrocephalus: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...02#post2247902

Explain how this post would make you want to vote for Rilla.
10-12-2015, 05:36 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

Explain how this post would make you want to vote for Rilla.

So I could use 'virtual no brainer' as a pun. Why are you trying to take that vote seriously?
10-12-2015, 05:38 PM
Top Tier Tom

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

for the record i did not say i would be AFK much on day 1. i said i was going to come at this game hard.

i had a crazy day yesterday on draftkings that culminates in the MNF game tonight. multiple huge scores are possible if keenan allen goes off. hard to focus on werewolf throughout the day so when i finally got settled i read the thread and just spit out what was in my head

dsaxton seems wolfy but we cant lynch him. pretty much everyone participating heavily i want to keep alive

Did he even post?
10-12-2015, 05:38 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

So I could use 'virtual no brainer' as a pun. Why are you trying to take that vote seriously?

Ok, on the pun. I'm just trying to get a read on you this game and when things ping me I question them.
10-12-2015, 05:39 PM
Top Tier Tom

Rascal what the hell are you going on about? I would say you're in a tunnel but it's more like you fell down a well
10-12-2015, 05:39 PM
Kami

Lynch me more ples
10-12-2015, 05:42 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

Rascal what the hell are you going on about? I would say you're in a tunnel but it's more like you fell down a well

The Rocky IV WW theme quote seemed out of left field and it may have been intended for wolf chat rather than the game thread. I think it's possible that his character is Drago and he just messed up posting in the thread. A Drago character in Russians vs. Americans fits, but calling this a Rocky IV ww themed game makes me think he slipped.
10-12-2015, 05:43 PM
Top Tier Tom

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

The Rocky IV WW theme quote seemed out of left field and it may have been intended for wolf chat rather than the game thread. I think it's possible that his character is Drago and he just messed up posting in the thread. A Drago character in Russians vs. Americans fits, but calling this a Rocky IV ww themed game makes me think he slipped.

How often do people post wolf chat messages in game threads? I don't think I've ever seen that.
10-12-2015, 05:43 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

Ok, on the pun. I'm just trying to get a read on you this game and when things ping me I question them.

Shit man, even if it wasn't clearly a joke vote to you right there and then, my follow up post should have definitely tipped you off

#40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

You never seen revenge / joke / troll vote openers before?
10-12-2015, 05:44 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

The Rocky IV WW theme quote seemed out of left field and it may have been intended for wolf chat rather than the game thread. I think it's possible that his character is Drago and he just messed up posting in the thread. A Drago character in Russians vs. Americans fits, but calling this a Rocky IV ww themed game makes me think he slipped.

dear god

I am running out of palms
10-12-2015, 05:45 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

Shit man, even if it wasn't clearly a joke vote to you right there and then, my follow up post should have definitely tipped you off

#40

It's not just the vote, it's the timing of the posts. All within a few minutes. The Rocky post is what really pinged me.
10-12-2015, 05:48 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

It's not just the vote, it's the timing of the posts. All within a few minutes. The Rocky post is what really pinged me.

you need to finish reading up on me, I've posted a lot since then.
10-12-2015, 05:49 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

you need to finish reading up on me, I've posted a lot since then.

I plan to. I just wanted to get real time responses from you.
10-12-2015, 05:50 PM
Top Tier Tom

I find this conversation fascinating

And ridiculous

Makes you both easier to read as villas at least
10-12-2015, 05:53 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilrascal

I plan to. I just wanted to get real time responses from you.

well you got them.

You're probably a villager again given that this is a carbon copy of last game. So I guess we're heading for you trying to mislynch me again too
10-12-2015, 05:54 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

I find this conversation fascinating

And ridiculous

Makes you both easier to read as villas at least

I know right

Who the fuck doesn't watch rocky?
10-12-2015, 05:55 PM
lilrascal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

well you got them.

You're probably a villager again given that this is a carbon copy of last game. So I guess we're heading for you trying to mislynch me again too

I'll go read and reassess.

Heading out to dinner now, then I'll go catch up on the thread.
10-12-2015, 05:56 PM
OngBonga

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beck Novo

lol

You're pulling at straws now.

Am I?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

BankItDrew is either a villager or one of the smoothest wolves I've seen, tone wise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

Making this my signature is not role-indicative!

Explain why a villager thinks about making this his sig. Explain to me how this isn't an alignment indicative slip. Tell me why a villager would be pleased to read what tom said.

If someone says to me when I'm a villager "he's either a villager or a great wolf", I tend to think along the lines of "wish I was a wolf", rather than feeling smug.

I don't think I'm grasping at straws here. I'm trying to get inside drew's head. If you think I'm wasting my time, well how about you show me how I should be hunting wolves? I don't see you breaking a sweat yet.
10-12-2015, 06:05 PM
aubreymcfate

hey all.

Just read through everything, here's some initial thoughts:

* Regarding those who bolded/targeted Kami: Day 1 person posting flippantly is definitely going to attract at least one wolf in the group of people targeting her.

Top Tier Tom, Ong, and Wug found her wolfy bc of that initial bold and poor reasoning. Gizmo and BID seemed less convinced that she did anything wolfy, and just found her a worthy d1 lynch bc they didn't find her posts serious enough. So there are 2 camps of Kami lynching -- those who took her posting seriously enough to think she is wolfy, and those who see that she's posting like she doesn't care and find her a liability.

conclusions from above: There is definitely a wolf in that group, even if I don't find voting for her particularly wolfy in and of itself (majority of kami votes are villagers, obv). Not sure if one mode of reasoning seems wolfier than the other yet but I think it's worth keeping in mind.

* Gizmo flipping to Rilla when he thought Rilla was wolfy and back to Kami when Rilla clarified his post makes Gizmo lean more villager than the rest to me. It looks authentic.

* chuckling IRL at the rocky convo. makes lilrascal lean village for me bc of how much of a stretch it is. seems more likely for a villager to try to catch someone on some insanely subtle slip (and be so earnestly relentless about it!) but if he is a wolf, that's very clever.
10-12-2015, 06:07 PM
Luco

Quote:

Originally Posted by aubreymcfate

* chuckling IRL at the rocky convo. makes lilrascal lean village for me bc of how much of a stretch it is. seems more likely for a villager to try to catch someone on some insanely subtle slip (and be so earnestly relentless about it!) but if he is a wolf, that's very clever.

well at least someone enjoyed it
10-12-2015, 06:09 PM
MadMojoMonkey

Catching up. I got to lurk a bit during the day, but I didn't have any time to post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

I'm not sure what you're saying. You don't want to lynch her because... she could provide entertainment value?

Sorry if I was obtuse in that post. I was getting tired.
Here it is, for context:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey

I blew up baudib's mind-brain for as much in the Varchertine's game. It was a mistake.

I'm just trying to establish how it is that my read of Kami is that she's perfectly content-free and correlate that to her winning a championship game.

I feel similar about bigred. I mean, he's not much help at solving most games. If he posts a few lolcats or gifs in any game day, then his activity is par. The thing is, while his content is the pits, he usually gets a hearty belly laugh out of me if he's active enough to post. (His, "You mean I got one?" U wot m8 post was epic. :lol:) So, while I totally agree with wuf's assessment that bigred probably wont contribute, I still don't want to vote him on D1. Certainly not before he's even posted. Too much lol equity.

I blew up baudib's mind-brain for as much = I voted to lynch baudib over similar pretext

in the Varchertine's game = the name of the WW game we played was Varchertines. It was in February, and all of the role PMs were characters from the show Archer.

I feel similar about bigred = I agree with the notion of voting off dead weight when the odds are about equal that they are wolf or not.

The rest is really the dissimilarities between bigred and Kami, and that I don't really want to vote for bigred before he's posted on D1, because he usually makes me laugh. Which means that voting for him is the opposite of making the game more tolerable.
10-12-2015, 06:25 PM
Luco

yeah so ong/drew are lookin pretty v/v but good luck trying to convince them
10-12-2015, 06:27 PM
Luco

can't decide if this is better than average wolf rilla or worse than average villa rilla
10-12-2015, 06:31 PM
Top Tier Tom

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Originally Posted by aubreymcfate

hey all.

Just read through everything, here's some initial thoughts:

* Regarding those who bolded/targeted Kami: Day 1 person posting flippantly is definitely going to attract at least one wolf in the group of people targeting her.

Top Tier Tom, Ong, and Wug found her wolfy bc of that initial bold and poor reasoning. Gizmo and BID seemed less convinced that she did anything wolfy, and just found her a worthy d1 lynch bc they didn't find her posts serious enough. So there are 2 camps of Kami lynching -- those who took her posting seriously enough to think she is wolfy, and those who see that she's posting like she doesn't care and find her a liability.

conclusions from above: There is definitely a wolf in that group, even if I don't find voting for her particularly wolfy in and of itself (majority of kami votes are villagers, obv). Not sure if one mode of reasoning seems wolfier than the other yet but I think it's worth keeping in mind.

* Gizmo flipping to Rilla when he thought Rilla was wolfy and back to Kami when Rilla clarified his post makes Gizmo lean more villager than the rest to me. It looks authentic.

* chuckling IRL at the rocky convo. makes lilrascal lean village for me bc of how much of a stretch it is. seems more likely for a villager to try to catch someone on some insanely subtle slip (and be so earnestly relentless about it!) but if he is a wolf, that's very clever.

Why's there "definitely" a wolf in that group? Kami is definitely a villager, or you think there's a wolf regardless of her alignment? I don't see why that is definitely the case.
10-12-2015, 06:45 PM
Kami

tom

get rekt
10-12-2015, 06:52 PM
Beck Novo

hi Kami hru
10-12-2015, 06:57 PM
aubreymcfate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

Why's there "definitely" a wolf in that group? Kami is definitely a villager, or you think there's a wolf regardless of her alignment? I don't see why that is definitely the case.

I feel pretty confident that Kami is a villager. It's a big part to do with her posting style, but that's not enough -- what really seals it for me is her "lynch me more" post. She doesn't have much experience and most people see her as a liability; if this something she was capable of as a wolf strategy, someone would have said it. She seems like mislynch bait to me, so that's the angle I'm basing the rest of my thought process on. I failed to get this across clearly in the original post bc I was catching up on a lot at once and refining my thoughts as I typed.
10-12-2015, 07:02 PM
gabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luco

can't decide if this is better than average wolf rilla or worse than average villa rilla

i've had this suspicion too. he has tried to draw people to me where normally he would let me slide by on day 1 imo

there are two reasons for this
1) wolf
2) he's succumbing to a phenomenon that i think is kinda affecting all of us orig FTR players. i realized last game (maybe game before) that i was only seriously engaging with people who i had a history with, not really doing it with the new players. when i realized i was doing this, i thought i was going to make a conscious effort to fight this tendency, but then i just got lazy and didnt post much
10-12-2015, 07:02 PM
gabe

re: dsaxton, yea he hasnt posted but i would have expected him too. the longer he doesnt, the more likely hes not a wolf i guess...but like i said he cant be lynched anyway since we have a sub waiting in the wings
10-12-2015, 07:03 PM
gabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

Why's there "definitely" a wolf in that group? Kami is definitely a villager, or you think there's a wolf regardless of her alignment? I don't see why that is definitely the case.

i agree with aubrey that there is very likely a wolf in that group. i could see why she thinks that. it just seems like out of all the wolves, at least one would get involved with all of that
10-12-2015, 07:06 PM
gabe

rilla asking so many questions

normally as a smart villager he just says what hes thinking

its like as a wolf he cant accomplish this
10-12-2015, 07:10 PM
MadMojoMonkey

Summaries of my thoughts as I read through.

I get strong Village vibes off of Beck's post 105.

His following posts frame a case on wuf, and he votes wuf. I see his argument as reasonable. I am evaluating my read on wuf.

wuf's next post is typical wolf wuf in that it's all about the show and not about the hunt.

NG (Night Gizmo) is jumping up in wolfy points for his 111 - 113.

I'm worried that BID isn't so village it hurts. He's good at getting a quick consensus about his alignment when he wants to... if he hasn't done so, it's by design, I think. The rest of his bravado is par for the course. Still, I don't like his line on bigred, and I'm not seeing what he's seeing about ong.

Luco is reading as V to me since the last time I posted

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Originally Posted by gabe

lol btw @ "Am I reading your correctly?"

:p
Look, I just want to know whose correctly it was. It was a great read, btw. Would recommend.

lol btw @ "tomorrow we gain should gain a ton of info"
Seriously... You're saying the poisoner should try their best to hit a low EV shot by targeting someone they think is a villager? Not just any villager, but the assumed strong villager that the wolves' poisoner is targeting?
"even if that seems stupid, its not like poison is wasted. the point would be to kill wolves"
Wait. Your recommendation is for the village poisoner to target a person who they think is sketchy, yet who is also perceived as a strong village lean by the wolves? How often does this work out?

Please explain it to me again.

rilla's on wuf... you see what I saw, rilla?
rilla 146
I'm leaning V on rilla.

ong's insta-bold on BID is poor form for a V, but ong embraces the tit-for-tat. Neutral at best.

Through 150
10-12-2015, 07:17 PM
MadMojoMonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kami

tom

get rekt

Why?

It's a forum game... use your words.
10-12-2015, 07:19 PM
Kami

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beck Novo

hi Kami hru

Waiting for siu to finish school and eating rice cake
10-12-2015, 07:19 PM
Kami

Quote:

Originally Posted by aubreymcfate

I feel pretty confident that Kami is a villager. It's a big part to do with her posting style, but that's not enough -- what really seals it for me is her "lynch me more" post. She doesn't have much experience and most people see her as a liability; if this something she was capable of as a wolf strategy, someone would have said it. She seems like mislynch bait to me, so that's the angle I'm basing the rest of my thought process on. I failed to get this across clearly in the original post bc I was catching up on a lot at once and refining my thoughts as I typed.

I've played ww for over three years lol
10-12-2015, 07:20 PM
Kami

Not expierenced smh
10-12-2015, 07:21 PM
MadMojoMonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kami

Not expierenced smh

Reads, then? Share the wisdom.
10-12-2015, 07:22 PM
Luco

kami plays ww on at least 4 different sites btw
10-12-2015, 07:22 PM
Kami

Idk I kinda stopped caring/trying after I got like 6 votes on me for a random vote I made

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