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i cant fold this... QQ/KK is for sure in his reraise range pre, but AA, AKs can be also posible...
like i said in this case on that range , pstove gives me 55%, his minraise in strange, could be to make go all in or could be AA /AKs afraid of the Q.
if i shove here, he will fold what? i think he will call all of his range here, and i would win according to pstove 55% of the times, so it would be profitable a little.
just call, i dont know, if he shoves river what do i do?
For me, when he reraises pre he can have a few hands, but at the same time he's 3betting an early position raiser, which is showing strength. I'd be surprised if he had anything worse than JJ+ AQ+ at this stage.
Flop comes down, we check. Now, if he has AQ, he's got to bet. So when he checks we can take this out of his range. That leaves JJ+ AK
Turn comes down, and we pot. He has got to credit this bet, you raised UTG and it now looks like we were looking to c/r a queen on the flop. When he raises, he pretty much tells us he doesn't have JJ or AK, because this would be a crazy raise. JJ would fold and AK likely call or fold. As for AA, it's a very bad idea to raise this hand here because no worse hands can call and no better hands can fold. Does he really raise AA hoping to make 44 fold, or AK call? I'm not so sure. For me, his raising range is now QQ/KK, based on earlier streets. Maybe KQ, but I think it's unlikely he 3bets this pre. Against QQ/KK we're obviously in terrible shape with under 2% equity. We HAVE to be able to give him AA to stack off here, or notes that tell us he's capable of wild bluffs.
However, like I say, I don't think I can fold this at 2nl. I guess I accept that there are enough idiots out there who think AA is the nuts on every street and so I just stack off and cry bad beat when he flips over kings, which is obviously what he's got.
yup.. you are right... i took all time bank, 90 sec to think.... and i shoved.... he snaped called and showed KK.
these are the hands that cost 20$ last 7 days.... no matter what i hold, he has better :) hopefully this down swing will end soon and those 20 will payback with interest. :)
Thinking more about this hand, it's possible your pot-sized bet has induced a bluff. It looks like you're trying to price out the flush draw, so maybe he is trying to rep the full house while holding AA, thinking maybe you can fold trip queens. Also, if he can 3bet TJ diamonds pre flop, he might bluff with this hand.
I guess we have more equity than against a range of KK/QQ only, but I don't think he does this often with AA/TJs/AK.
Like I say, don't worry about these hands too much. Making money at 2nl is not about folding your full house when it's losing, it's so rare this will happen. Focus on marginal situations where you hold maybe bottom 2pair facing a shove, or TPTK facing flop raise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razvan729