It is true though, wolves usually give excuses because they're generally more concerned with suspicion. Villagers usually go "oh, cool. I'm still alive."
rescind bigred
lynch bode
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It is true though, wolves usually give excuses because they're generally more concerned with suspicion. Villagers usually go "oh, cool. I'm still alive."
rescind bigred
lynch bode
Penny, there isn't a time limit for this game this time...
I don't know who to vote for. I'll just throw a dart at my laptop...and...lynch badgers it is.
I guess I pretty much have to bow to the experience of Warpe and Rilla, however before I submit my vote, is there any reason why Stacks and Spenda aren't under fire other than them both saying "Ye-eah, you guys are right, but I'm not a wolf, kthx"?
I'll go with rilla and Warpe (and my gut) on this one: lynch bode
I thought it was weird on day 1 when he was talking about Stacks' list:
The bolded comment (my bolding, obviously) seems like something that a villager would have no reason to say. Again, a bit of an excuse like Warpe was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by bode
didn't make an excuse for anything, just saying that i hadn't been able to really read FTR for 2 days and was just catching up. obv nothing has happened so i guess i didn't miss anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warpe
are you "special", DD? that post, in particular the part you bolded, was said because stax listed both kingnat and myself in a suspect list. Knowing that i'm not a WW, i still liked the reasoning behind stax's post and thought kingnat was a good choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoanDiggy
something about warpe is rubbing me wrong this game. He just seems way too happy to put in a medium amount of meaningless posts to be recognized as contributing, but stay under the radar. There is literally zero content in this game so far from someone that is usually chock full. idk, i feel like warpe would be the perfect recruit right now because he always gets lynched early and can use that as a good defense if anyone goes after him.
the last 2 posts especially, are pretty lol. no snap lynches guys, but snap lynch bode for "defending" himself. pretty sure you have to be attacked before you can defend yourself.
anyway, lynch warpe
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lol, now i look guilty for finally posting a bunch after getting votes against me.
I agree with bode on this... was about to make a post talking about how Warpe has been acting this game(I'm not sure if this is std for him or not cause I've only read through 1 other game). IMO Warpe looks wayyy more suspicious then bode, he was one of the last on the kingnat bandwagon and tried to start a penneywise bandwagon right away.
Lynch Warpe
lynch Warpe
lynch Warpe
I think you might be onto something with the warpe thing. It kinda looked like he was defending DD aswell so maybe a DD lynch would be a less risky way of finding out (since warpe is a bit of an asset). I guess he could have just been defending him because why not though.
rescind bode
lynch warpe
never actually played with warpe before halloween, he's usually dead the first night . It does seem suspicious to me that spenda hasn't said a word and then suddenly pops up with a lynch warpe with no further explanation or comment. He's usually starting a BW not hopping on like this.
I actually have been dying to say I was suspicious of Warpe but didn't want it to turn around on me (Warpe has blind followers like that). His posts are just suspiciously short.
lynch Warpe
Sticking with my lynch Instant Aces here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Instant Aces
spenda always does this. Which is why we shoulda lynched him yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_MM
lol
I'm not a zombie guys, just trying to stimulate discussion, which is obv working. I have no idea if bode is a zombie or not but it's about time he said something and lame "I've been busy" excuses are a common symptom of wolfishness, so I like the lynch.
It's about time spenda chimed in too, so I could climb on that wagon as well.
This is an effing tough game, esp since we don't have any kill list to go by.
How about doan diggy, spenda warpe rilla in that orderQuote:
Originally Posted by Warpe
rescind bode
lynch badgers
How is this list even possible? I'm the one with the crazy theory that rilla and spenda were the wolves on day 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_MM
I don't think we should lynch Warpe yet. I mean, the guy always seems to get lynched or killed by day 3. Eventually he's just going to quit playing, right?
Badgers still hasn't said anything, and it's kind of curious that his train got derailed so effortlessly (first switched to bode, then to Warpe). I'd much rather lynch Badgers than Warpe today, just because Warpe is more valuable to the village (zombie or no) because at least he's posting something.
I'll be posting the current counts again soon.
Badgers - 6 (WillburForce, Penneywize, XTR1000, DoanDiggy, ChrisBCritter, Warpe, DoanDiggy)
Warpe - 6 (bode, Instant Aces, StillDeadMoney, bigspenda73, a500lbgorilla, BooG690)
DoanDiggy - 2 (BooG690, Pelion, JKDS, Keith_MM, kiwiMark)
Penneywize - 2 (JKDS, flomo)
a500lbgorilla - 1 (bigred)
bigred - 1 (Warpe, XxStacksxX, a500lbgorilla)
bigspenda73 - 1 (GatorJH)
Instant Aces - 1 (dranger7070)
bode - 0 (Warpe, a500lbgorilla, DoanDiggy)
XxStacksxX - 0 (BooG690, bigspenda73)
Quite the clusterfuck
Make that 8 for badgers lynch badgers
Just 7, actually (unless I missed a vote). The italics names are rescinded votes.
warpe and bode are all over the place! Let's put them in a cage and the one still alive doesn't get lynched...we can lynch dead bodies right?
I think lynching badgers is probably going to be futile. It would be a terrible zombie tactic to not come to the thread to participate. Not only because there is a "lynch the quiet ones" mantra usually in play, but also because Spenda did this last game and was strung up on Day 2. Hardly seems like the best zombie strategy.
Other than that, I don't know what the hell to think. I do know that Warpe, Rilla, Spenda, etc will be recruited at some point. Probably sooner rather than later. I do know that it will be terrible for the village when this happens. Having solid players be zombies, as well as those players leading the discussion with regular followers, will just be bad news.
Recind BigRed
Lynch Warpe
rescind Warpe
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lynch Warpe obv
rescind warpe
Quick thought. Obviously we're all getting pretty good at avoiding suspicion. But I think wolves will tend to throw around less suspicion than villagers right now. Wolves wanna get through this day so they can recruit 1 more. To get that much closer to sealing a win.
Warpe's been suspicious of everyone today. Even if they were all villagers, his patience and activity is unwolf-like.
Just saying that he's a confirmed villager in my eyes today. And we need to look at the people who have submitted the fewest lynches today.
Oh yah, forgot to mention. Penneywize and SDM are friends IRL. They've posted from the same IP.Quote:
Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
Tbh, I just don't see we can get away from lynching a vet. Recruiting a vet works in the favor of the Alpha is SOOOO many ways. To name a few:
(1) An Alpha gets the vets insight when he gets pulled over. In the last game, there wasn't a chance that I wasn't going to recruit a vet on Night 1. I was a n00b zombie, and needed some insight from a more knowledgeable player. I feel that would be the case with just about any low-mid level alpha.
(2) The vets are going to be better at feigning suspicion away from them. Vet's statements generally carry more weight. Because of this they can start, derail, reverse bandwagons like it's nothing. This is great for the zombies, as they can keep the bandwagon away from the Alpha.
(3) Vets are better villagers. They know what's suspicious.. What to look for, what to consider, and what is just standard behavior. It's pretty obvious they are going to be the most threat to keep as villagers. Pretty logical for an Alpha to want mediocre to good villagers opposing him, rather than good-really good.
(4) Even if vets are going to be looked at as highly suspicious, and end up on a lynch list rather quickly, this is still good news for the Alpha. Having a vet on the zombie side would be plan A for the Alpha. Plan B, would be for that vet to be dead. It's much less dangerous for the Alpha to have those individuals dead than alive.
I mean with all that working in the favor of an Alpha recruiting vets, it seems pretty plausible that he would. I just don't see how an Alpha would turn down recruiting vets, and instead recruit individuals that will make poor-mediocre zombies. The Alpha would be intentionally building an inferior army.
If the Alpha recruits the weakest player from the village, then logically the Village becomes stronger. And depending on the recruited player's ability, he could hinder the zombies, rather than help. Seems like a poor choice to recruit only good players, so you are left pitted against the 'greats' in endgame.
For all of these reasons, I'm sticking with my Warpe lynch, and liking it more and more. If he turns out to be a villager, sure that sucks for the village. However, it will probably suck even more when he gets recruited, and keeps using the same logic, and we keep second guessing ourselves.
lynch bode
Also, Instant Aces completes my list of possible wolves.
I totally agree Stax. I did kinda skim over your reasoning but I know chasing down a vet is solid. But we can still try to chase down the right vet. Warpe isn't acting like a wolf in my eyes.
Bode, however, has twice attempted to vote only once. He was the 2nd vote solidifying reasoning to lynch kingnat and he's once again try to drop a hammer on a village full of people just looking for something to grab hold of.
Him and Instant Aces aren't being widely suspicious of people. They're trying to focus the village and get through to night.
i like a warpe lynch more than ever now. He just came in with another zero content post and just shifted his target from me to badgers, whom i can't see being a wolf since he hasn't contributed at all this game.
lynch warpe and lynch rilla tomorrow, they seem to be in bed together.
And to clarify Instant Aces, he's being really flimsy. Instead of focusing the group, he's just trying not to impede it. While trying to blend into the background as best as possible.
I'm on to you! Though, we could lynch Instant Aces first. Since between the two of you, he's much more likely the random alpha.Quote:
Originally Posted by bode
Still not totally confident in my picks. But I have a real good feeling about them. I'd like to hear from Stax, JKDS and Warpe.
On the first day, bode just came out and said "perfect reasoning. lynch kingnat" giving everyone the confidence to follow. 2nd day, he quotes so many Warpe posts he forces you to believe they're wolfy when I dont think there's anything there. Then he follows saying he's now more confident than ever and should be followed.
That's about word for word how I may have played a moon-howler in werewolves past.
i like lynching both.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
lynch bode.
this post you quoted seems alot like a "hey i got a few votes, lets finish off that other bw quick!".
okay, for one I'm totally convinced that rilla is a villager b/c he's playing his usual game.
I'm playing my usual game by throwing suspicion on whoever's kepping too quiet to get them to defend themselves.
spenda has contributed nothing other than to vote to lynch me, probably b/c he knows rilla and I work well together and wants me out of the way for building any momentum on any spenda wagon that rilla might start.
bode comes out of nowhere with some wimp ass excuse and is now totally focussed on me b/c I forced him to defend himself
badgers is MIA, is a good lynch, but so is bode
rescind badgers
lynch bode
i've explained why i thought kingnat was good lynch earlier on this page. The reason i quoted all of warpes posts (something i usually dont do) is because he is always someone who posts well thought out reasoning for his tactics and this game has resorted to quick no content posts that add nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
although you look suspicious to me, you aren't someone to usually associate yourself so closely to someone, especially early in the game, so maybe you are just confused. i think lynching warpe gives us a fair amount of info, and obviously i'm not the only one who thinks he is a good lynch.
Also, angel plz protect me. They'll always try to recruit during the night phase and if they stumble upon you, then you've nuked the alpha!
If we're going to keep this day going indefinitely, we might as well start up a bandwagon on spenda. Is there anyone else left that we're missing?
Because I think you're the alpha and probably recruited spenda on the first night. Nobody seems to have mentioned the angel yet and its going to be a wise move to protect Warpe at the start. Spenda is going to realise this and would advise letting the village lynch Warpe.Remember what warpe said about the people posting excuses being wolfy ,you did this at the start saying that you wouldnt be posting as much this WW. Then you made the faux pas aboiut the wolves den name. You missed the game where OP tried to pretend when he was a wolf that he didnt know the wolves could talk together.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoanDiggy
Why do I think that you'd go for Spenda, because stacks wrote quite a bit in the halloween dead thread talking about how him and Spenda had done quite a bit of work on strategies and I think that you thought you'd get the benefit of Spenda's experience from the start .
If you are the alpha , Your "crazy" idea that spenda and rilla are the wolves could be the ideal cover for them to continue the game with after you get lynched.Spenda would have covered the possibility that you are uncovered as a noob wolf.
this is the second time you've said this. again, how was i making an excuse for anything? i can see if i had heat on me earlier, but i came into the thread after not reading it for ~2 days, and merely stated that i had been gone and gave my thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warpe
You continue to say nothing and still attempt to build confidence in your own opinion while calling mine confused. Your Rush Limbaugh tactics won't work on me!Quote:
Originally Posted by bode
oh, and bigred isn't active enough either, still a suspect imo
I think bode is a bad lynch. I think Warpe is a bad lynch. I think rilla is a bad lynch. I know I'm a bad lynch. Badgers is a meh lynch. Does anyone have a plan or at least a lynch candidate that doesn't seem like a villager? How is XTR1000 not getting any mention?
Read my posts. I'm interested to know why you feel the bode lynch is a bad idea. We've gotta bring you and Keith into this convo because you need to get more familiar with the village and how they're playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoanDiggy
Since no one can agree on bode, rilla, warpe, or badgers. Lets all just get along and
Lynch Instant Aces
On a side note, I would have no problem being the nail in the coffin or that last knot in the rope, whatever for a warpe OR bode lynch. I think they are both pretty wolfish right now, but I'm sticking to IA for now.
I like where your head is at. But I'm feeling pretty good about my reasons to lynch bode.
Though, like I said before, between bode and IA, aces is more likely the random alpha.
The main reason is that if bode is a zombie, would he really go so strongly after Warpe out of the blue when he could easily bandwagon bigred or Badgers? It just seems like a huge attention-grabber, and unless he's done this sort of thing before (as a wolf, obviously) I wouldn't really expect him to do it now and draw so much attention to himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
I think Keith has TPTK and is unwilling to re-evaluate. IOW, he is convinced a few people are wolves and is looking for evidence that he is right instead of stepping back and reconsidering.
With as hard as DD is pushing for bode to NOT be a wolf, I have a hard time convincing myself that we shouldn't lynch one or the other just to see what's what. If one is a villager, then its pretty unlikely that the other isn't, and if one is, the other is likey to be as well. Thoughts?
I got on a bode bandwagon early on. I agreed with Warpe's reasoning. Since then, looking at his posts, they just seem villagerish to me. But I'm not very experienced and could certainly be wrong.
Yeah, but you have to admit you just wanna lynch keith because he's coming after you. You're both just villagers and newbies.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoanDiggy
He's not pushing *that* hard. He's just focused on getting Keith because they're feuding.Quote:
Originally Posted by dranger7070
I don't want to lynch Keith, never did.
oh, my bad. I saw keith called you an alpha and just skipped ahead. And didn't really get the TPTK thing. Who do you wanna lynch now?
Meh.. I'm not against a warpe or bode lynch. Tbh, I would bandwagon a Rilla and Spenda lynch as well. I'm really torn on who is the most wolfy.
Warpe - Seems to be acting a bit different than last game. And the way in which he is voting seems practically identical to what I would do again as an alpha. Not sparking fights with many other vets.. Pushing the voting towards individuals that aren't contributing, or that an easy BW might follow (badgers, penneywize, etc). This helps because it makes his list of possible recruits as a zombie better.
Rilla - meh.. idk. Something seems off, and no-one can say he wouldn't be pretty high on their recruit list. He's suspect, but I think there are better choices for this day.
Spenda - Keith brought up a decent point. Spenda is going to have the "I was zombie last game, I didn't participate, who would recruit me?" argument. And I did post about how he was pretty damn helpful to me, even though he didn't participate in the game thread. But I think most alpha's would just read that, and figure "he didn't participate last game, why would he this game", and go for another vet. IDK though.
Bode - I have my reservations about bode. Seems like a poor strategy to butt heads with players like Warpe/Rilla if your a zombie. But I def still have my suspicions.
Anyways, at this time.. I'm going to let you guys choose. Persuade me into a camp. My vote is really up for grabs on those 4 people right now. And I can probably be persuaded onto someone else (NOT Badgers, because come on.. Who would do the silent treatment after it didn't work last game?).
edited to add the last two sentences. Stax posted real quick after me.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
i wanna lynch stax too.
bode didn't openly butt heads with me and warpe. I kinda sought him out when I sat down and actually started combing through the thread when the warpe lynch was going because he struck me as pretty clearly a villager based on how much suspicion was being spread. The wolves would want to get the village to lynch someone. Warpe's been having us look at literally everyone. Wolves don't tend to have that kind of patience.
I'm listening. Do go on.Quote:
Originally Posted by JKDS
I was just trying to make a bad poker analogy. A while back he decided that I (and another player or two?) was a wolf, and he seems unwilling to read what has happened in the intervening time and change his mind.
I don't know who to go after, but I'd rather not zap a good player like Warpe just yet. There's plenty of time for that. This day has lasted forever; I'd be willing to start some new bandwagons if not for that.
Obviously we have to get the village to some sort of reasonable consensus and go with that. Who is that going to be?
^^ Talking about my Keith and my TPTK comment there. I thought it might not be obvious since everyone is posting turbo-fast ATM.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoanDiggy
You can't get a reasonable consensus at this point. The wolves are among us, wearing villager clothes. You just have to try and understand each player.
In my eyes, there are some clear villagers like Warpe and JKDS. And some very likely wolves like bode and IA. I feel very confident in a bode lynch and I would bet he's either the alpha or the first recruit.
bode as a wolf wouldn't poke around lynching everyone to see how they squirm like Warpe would. He'd likely try to find 1 target to focus on and do his best to focus the village that way. He's done that twice now. Day 1, he offered confidence saying that a kingnat lynch was based on sound reasoning. And day 2, he's trying to make Warpe appear wolfish, while he doesn't look it at all to me.
I don't care what people say. Different moods bring out different posting styles. But what they're doing is important. And what bode is doing is wolfy, what Warpe is doing is villagery.
"bode as a wolf wouldn't poke.... like warpe would"
I'm saying that warpe as a villager would act as he has in this thread. bode as a wolf, I'm guessing with high hopes, would act as wolf-bode has in this thread.
OK, rilla is a better player than me and I don't think a bode lynch is very bad.
lynch bode
That said, I'm going to be out until probably tomorrow morning. My main vote would be to end this day. If it's possible, once anyone (other than me, obviously) has 11 votes, just switch mine to make it the 12th? That's what I would do if I was around.
i dont have anything cool to say rilla. i just have hunches atm.
question though, where the fuck is gator?
let's remember who soulread who this Halloween, shall we? why would you want me out if you're a villager?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
The only thing i'm sure of is that rilla is a villager on this day. NO wolf would ever edit their own posts or somebody elses pots.
warpe seems like a villlager to me and trying to find the wolves.
rilla says JKDS is a villager.
my top 3
Stax
bode
spenda
lynch bode
is this true?Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
This is true.
Recind Warpe
Lynch Bode
K. So Rilla has persuaded me so far. My thoughts were that a Wolf would (1) be a little less active than normal (fits both Bode and Warpe), and (2) would send votes at inconspicious individuals. Individuals that would have an easy bandwagon following. Kinda seemed like this fit Warpe well.
However, I can definitely see the reasoning behind Warpe being a villager with his random all over the place lynchings. A zombie probably wouldn't want to rattle that many cages, for fear of not only drawing attention, but also pissing off too many people.
I'm still not sold on a Bode lynch only for the fact that it seems poor for a wolf to go after some of the better players (Warpe). But, warpe did call him out, and returning fire making the person who called you out look as wolfy as possible is a reasonable defense.
I see your suspicions JKDS, and I raise it. I heard mention that JKDS was a confirmed villager? Why is this? He would be an uber solid recruit candidate, having alpha experience before.
talking of SDM , unusually quiet , along with kiwimark
Oh, there ain't no rest for the wicked,Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_MM
Money don't grow on trees.
I got bills to pay,
I got mouths to feed,
There ain't nothing in this world for free.
I know I can't slow down,
I can't hold back,
Though you know, I wish I could.
No there ain't no rest for the wicked,
Until we close our eyes for good
It's like he's communicating in pure static. I don't think he wants to play.
re Stax: And JKDS is confirmed villager in my eyes. At the beginning of the day, I assumed you were a villager because I was ignoring the 3rd wolf. But since there's atleast 1 more out there, I'm awfully suspicious of you.
If I didn't want to play, I wouldn't have signed up. I am clueless as to who the zombies are and have nothing meaningful to add.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
<3Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_MM
This pretty much sums it up for me, too. Rest assured I'm reading along, but whenever I think "Aha, x looks suspicious!" there's a flurry of posts like "Oh well x couldn't be a zombie, look at his posts" and so I feel pretty clueless about the whole thing :PQuote:
Originally Posted by SDM
As an example, most recently I thought rilla's flurry of a billion posts a second with a tendency to lynch anybody with a vowel in his name was mega suspicious, but apparently putting the squeeze on everyone is good village play, so I thought I'd just keep quiet.
Also, the time I did post recently (why are Stax and Spenda no longer under fire) I got ignored, so I figured reading was better than asking questions. I guess it makes sense if people don't want to give away strat to the wolves.
re SDM: Saying anything is meaningful. Like addressing my comments that you and penney have posted from the same computer.
oh, kiwi. It's just the difference in how familiar the vets are with each other and how little you know us. We've been posting around these forums for years. Nothing you can do about that. You just gotta wait for the vets to die off.
Of course, and that post wasn't intended as a bitch, just explaining why I'm sitting back and reading/watching as opposed to pointing my ignorant finger on some arbitrary direction. :)
s/on/in
Where in the thread does it say this?Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
I said it. Because it's true. I'd just like you to clarify for everyone.
Still Dead Money
Have you and penney posted from the same IP address/computer?
Triptanes is aware of it. Which means he knowingly allowed it. I have to assume this means that Triptanes trusts that they won't cheat. If one of them is a wolf and the other isn't, they won't share. If trip trusts them, that's all I need.
It's just like two people from irc playing. I just wanted everyone to know they're friends since it's important to their play in this game.
i was jusst making sure they didn't miss it this time :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by StillDeadMoney
I can understand suspicion. I have plenty towards you and JKDS as well. I think it's much more probable that you two would be higher on a recruit list than me as well. Either way, I can assure you, I am not yet a wolf.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
wow how the fuck did i survive page 5?
I am on the back of a 3 day binge.... I'll try and catch up with whats going on! Thanks for keeping me alive village <3
And the alcohol excuse got flomo hung as a wolf recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
do we have a time limit this game?
voting for me is a mistake and will just set us back another day while allowing the zombies to recruit another. i would be completely surprised if either rilla or warpe is not a zombie, and think both of them could possibly be. Both are excellent recruit options based on stax's logic, which i completely agree with.
funny how rilla mentioned before how villagers are usually like "lol im still alive kthx" and then badgers comes around with above post. so level 1 but I wont change my vote
yah but rilla also makes a great case for bode. Though his defense has remained congruent, which is a bad sign (saying lynching him is bad and doing other things is good for no reason other than that's how it is).
Besides, what are the chances that badgers read the entire thread before posting. It's badgers, after all.