I just waqtched Bad Santa for like the 10th time, I love that movie. Billie Bob is a legend.
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I just waqtched Bad Santa for like the 10th time, I love that movie. Billie Bob is a legend.
hmm, the godfather 1 & 2 are #2-3 on imdb but i've never seen them....
For years, Shawshank Redemption and The Godfather were fighting back and forth for the #1 spot. Shawshank has pretty much sealed it by now
And slap yourself in the face for not watching Godfather 1&2. Two of the best
Wuf, this exchange is some of your best work. Nice and subtle.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
To make this topical, I loved Zombieland.
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
actually just watched both of those for the first time like 2 months ago
Return of the Living Dead.
Trashy 80's horror, but very entertaining imo.
Zombiland still isn't in theaters over here :( I fear it might go the straight to dvd route like Slither did.
Wow, I am quite pleased that you got it. Was afraid it flew over everybody's headQuote:
Originally Posted by BennyLaRue
I wanted to add more, but didn't think I could do so without looking like an asshole
The problem with IMDB is that the ratings are not measuring the objective "goodness" of a film but rather their mainstream popularity. While you are probably getting more better than average films using it, you're also missing all the controversial/non-mainstream/low budget gems.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Actually, that's not trueQuote:
Originally Posted by CoccoBill
Yes, there is an element of popularity involved (which is one of the things I was implicating when mentioning nuances with the system). An example is The Dark Knight. Good movie, but overrated on IMDB. The reason for this is because cult favorites, especially from the superhero/comic genre, are appreciated by a larger percentage of avid IMDB users, yet very underrepresented in film catalogue, and so when a good one comes around it's always overrated.
This is true for virtually all cult favorites. Like Good Bad and Ugly is NOT better than Schindler's List, but it gets a higher rating due to factors like few good westerns, it's historically iconic, etc
Anyways, back to my point that IMDB isn't biased for mainstream stuff. If you look over say the top 500 movies on IMDB, you will find a ton of obscure, low budget stuff, controversial, and non-mainstream stuff. In fact, most of the best films I've ever seen are due to using IMDB. Films like
The Celebration - Epitome of low budget/controversial/obscure, etc. Nobody's ever heard of it, but easily one of the best. Danish dogme film.
Seppuku - Old Japanese Samurai drama. Nobody's heard of it, but possibly in the top five dramas ever
Evil - Swedish film. Not necessarily among the best ever, but very tip top, and very enjoyable. Again, nobody's ever heard of it
Rope - Alfred Hitchcock's first and best film. Jimmy Stewart's best film. Talk about controversy, the subject matter of this film is about as controversial as it gets, yet nobody's ever even heard of it
Miyamoto Musashi Trilogy - Fucking Toshiro Mifune epic kills shit in more old Japanese Samurai that nobody's ever heard of. If you like Westerns you'd love Samurai since Westerns get everything they have from Samurai, and Clint Eastwood's iconic badass gun-slinging persona wouldn't even exist without Mifune and Kurosawa
The Straight Story - Possibly David Lynch's only 'non-weird' film. Extremely non-mainstream, and surprisingly awesome
All of those films are some of the best in existence, all very highly rated on IMDB, and all meet the obscure, low-budget, and often controversial criteria. In fact, there are very few mainstream and high budget films with high ratings, and when they are there, they deserve it (like Saving Private Ryan or Gladiator). If IMDB is a popularity contest, it's one among avid film enthusiasts with some semblance of taste, not weekend warriors
Bad Lieutenant was decent for a Cage film. Glad I didn't pay to see it, but worth a watch on my computer
I never got the chance to see them back in the day. Watched all 3 about a month ago back to back.Quote:
Originally Posted by JL
3 is so very bad..
3 doesn't even exist
My opinion was based on the top250, which includes pretty much all the box office hits and the most known classics and little else. How do you find out whats in the top500?Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
There isn't a list for top 500. For some weird reason, the list for top 250 doesn't update correctly. Of the movies I mentioned, only Rope is in the list, but several others have high enough ratings to be there, yet aren't. That particular list doesn't represent actual IMDB ratings. The rating of each movie is within a few tenths of a point of accuracy at least, but a lot of them shouldn't even be on the list due to other films that are rated higher, yet for some reason aren't there.Quote:
Originally Posted by CoccoBill
Looking it over, there are a TON of excellent movies that meet your criteria that have the high rating, but aren't on that list. It actually looks like a majority of the movies in my top 50 or so aren't even on the list, even though the majority of them have high enough ratings to be there.
Werner Herzog's 'Aguirre, Wrath of God' is the epitome of low-budget, obscure, etc. Its rating puts it close to the top 100, but it's still not in the list. Personally, I hated that film, but it's about as good an example as it gets for the kind you're talking about
P.S. Apparently, the top 250 list only counts votes from regular visitors. So that would explain why its weighted towards more mainstream stuff, but that doesn't stop the great, obscure stuff from having high ratings.
... and Rope is overrated.... apparently. Did not know it was in the top anything.
Wrath of God makes my all-time best list :D
I haven't seen it in english though. I thought the original english tracks of Fitzcarraldo were a disaster. I would actually recommend people to watch the german dubbed version with subtitles :D - Might be the same with Aguirre because it faces similar problems with barely a single native speaking actor.
- The celebration might be low budget and blah, but everyone knows it, right?
No self respecting art-tard would give it a bad rating.
I would consider The Straight Story mainstream.
Rope is vastly underrated dude. VASTLYQuote:
Originally Posted by oskar
Literally perfect rendition of a play on film, zero directorial, script, or acting flaws, and Jimmy Stewart has without question the greatest monologue of all time. Nothing even comes close to the epicness of its conclusion
It's possible I would like Wrath of God a little bit if I watched it again, but I could only take about five minutes of watching the river flow before I got pissed off then just wanted it to end. There are also particular directorial styles that I tend to loathe, and Herzog appears to be one of them, even though I can tell he's very talented
It's been a while since I've seen Rope. Definitely a good movie. Would recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it, but idk about perfect.
Bad Boy Bubby - Rolf De Heer... Kasper Hausa type story. I liked it a lot. Idk why I haven't followed the director. I will check out his newer stuff.
Never watch anything with dubs. Always subs.
I guess Straight Story could be considered mainstream. I wouldn't because well it's David Lynch and nothing he does appeals to the mainstream, and it's a very non-standard film. I mean, half of it is a guy driving his tractor, yet it's somehow still awesome. That's a sign of a true artist when a director can stray from the standard yet make it great.
The Celebration is definitely not mainstream. Well, maybe for you unpatriotic pagan freedom hatin commies, but over here if you've ever even seen a Danish film, you're out of the norm
Just saw "Welcome to the Quiet Room". I was looking for "Quit Room" by De Heer but couldn't find it, so I watched this one instead. It gets a little slow towards the end, but I liked it.
haha i saw the south park episode of rape for indiana jones but never saw the new movie... decided to watch the movie last night out of curiosity for how bad it really is, and wow, RAPE
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Originally Posted by givememyleg
Another one where I was initially excited, but then decided I best practice avoidance.
I saw the new Elm Street movie last night and was not disappointed.
This was my favorite of all horror series' (and I love horror movies) growing up. The visuals are obviously better, Freddy himself is not as cool.
Overall I'd rank it behind the first couple of the original series, but ahead of the cornier later sequels.
If you are a Freddy fan you'll like it.
You seriously think the second one was good? Wasn't that the one at some pool party and it was super awful?
Like most movies, the first was the best and they got worse as they went along. I like every single one of them though.
I'm a sucker for horror movies.
[x] ftr has a baraka thread
NH Kiwi.
just watched Le Pacte de Loups (Brotherhood of the Wolf) for the second time (first time was like 7 or 8 years ago when it first came to dvd.) This movie is so awesome. I really am not sure how to describe it... you just have to see it.
Le pacte des loups (2001)
I side with you boost most of the time. However, there is no way I am going to watch that sappy Victorian looking shit.
Speaking of Vincent Cassel and Monica Bellucci, somebody watch Irréversible (2002) and tell me how it is
Supposedly, this film is good, but also has the worst rape scene of all time. I've wanted to watch it for a while since I love me some fucked up shit, but for some reason, I draw the line at rape. Can't handle that shit.
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
youre failing, miserably. srsly man, theres an iroquis warrior who does martial arts with a tomahawk. How can you pass on that?
another werewolf movie, this one a fairly cool retelling of red ridding hood, is company of wolves. Mind you, its from the 80's, and the special effects/set design are pretty dated (sometimes this adds charm, and in the case of the set design it does.. special effects.. meh..) I dont think this is some great moment in cinema, or a must see, but I guess Im on a bit of a werewolf kick lately.
The Company of Wolves (1984)
sold!Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
Lesbian Vampire Killers
Do I need to say more?
I'm gonna have to look for that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by oskar
I also once watched Zombie Strippers, starring Jenna Jameson and Robert Englund (as the club owner) It was as corny as you can imagine. It was incredible.
Lol I've seen that one Hawkfan
I liked Frankenhooker a lot. The ending is surprisingly emancipated for that kind of 80's movie.
I just re-watched 13th Floor. It's along the lines of Dark City, Jacobs Ladder or the original Matrix if you haven't seen it. Highly recommended. More highly than Frankenhooker. But Frankenhooker is good too :)
This last week I've watched
Role Models
--not in love w/ it like everyone else I know seems to be
Iron Man 2
--meh but I'm not a comic book geek kinda dude
Avatar
--solid but I watched it on my comp, sure it's a lot better at iMax/3D/whatever
http://aicn-media.s3.amazonaws.com/2...e_trailerx.mov
might take a while to load, but worth it
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
:shock:
Half way through I stopped it to check imdb thinking it has to be another grindhouse fake trailer, but it has a release date! I don't believe it until I see it. This is going to be the best movie of all times ever!
I thought it was a joke trailer when I saw it before Planet Terror.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
This looks awesome.
it was a joke, but got such a following/response that it became an actual feature
holy shhhhhhhhhhhit! I clicked the link earlier today, but it took too long to load, and I saw it said "machete." So I just closed the window thinking it was a trailer for some stupid slasher flick. Then I read oskar and drew's responses.. wish I had been patient before. This is epic!
my movie taste must suck b/c I've watched a few lately that people rave about and I just couldn't get into any of them
lost in translation
--I'll admit my focus peaked in the first 90 seconds, you guys know what I'm talking about
eternal sunshine of the spotless mind
--cool concept, solid acting, but didn't love it
forgetting one more, damn
I did like the aviator, good stuff. Going to watch Memento and Adaptation soon.
From Paris with Love was decent, I like Travolta when he's violent . I also didn't mind the Bad Lieutenant. The role actually worked for Cage, which hasn't happened for him in a while. I also liked Book of Eli, but none of these would be nearly as good if I had paid $15 to see them on the big screen.
hook me up w/ where you got Book of Eli yo, it hasn't come out on DVD yet right?
luls Robin Hood is PG-13, fuck that noise no wai I'm going now
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
wasnt gladiator pg13? Obv I prefer R so that they dont water stuff down, but pg13 doesnt necessarily mean it will be bad.
no it was R
I stand corrected.
Book of Eli isn't out yet but I needed something to watch. It was one of the few that I figured i wouldn't mind watching in a weaker format. (Telesync)
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Originally Posted by jyms
really? I watched a bootleg of it and I kinda regret that I did. I dont think I would have loved the movie, but I do think its more of a visual movie. Also theres a lot of heavy contrast in scenes, harsh desert sun and dark dark shadows, which doesnt translate well to cam rips.
Iron Man 2? anyone?
For older movies "Unfaithful" was good. Any movie where Diane Lane says "Fuck me...Fuck ME!" is :clap:
I hated Iron Man 2. The action scenes were way too few and short, story and dialogue vomit inducing. My gf loved and my two friends thought it was just OK.
I can't fucking wait for Inception.
I just watched A Serious Man. I don't get it, at all.
It might grow on me, like a short story.
Eventually I got the wrestler on dvd, pretty cool i must say
Cool Hand Luke
The old Superman's with Christopher Reeve were decent.
I'm in the mood for some futuristic film noir-esque stuff. Can anyone recommend something that fits in with:
Dark City, Bladerunner, The Crow, eXistenZ, Total Recall...
Quote from october 2009. Still not released in europe. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by JKDS
Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes is really good.
Top Favorites
Western- The Good, the Bad and the Ugly/Once upon a time in The West
War-Saving Private Ryan/ Black Hawk Down/We Were Soldiers
Sports-Miracle/ Mystery Alaska/The Rookie/Invincible
Cop-Dirty Harry
Horror-Original Holloween/Friday 13th
Suspense-Silence of the Lambs/Jaws
Chick Flick- The Notebook
Sci Fi-Star Wars
Comic-The Dark Knight/Superman
Action-Braveheart/Gladiator/Law Abiding Citizen
Other-Saturday Night Fever
Comedy-Animal House/Revenge of the Nerds
The MatrixQuote:
Originally Posted by oskar
Used to be one of the best of all time. Only movie that I'm aware of where the sequels officially retroactively ruined the original. You can never watch it the same way again after seeing Morpheus as a techno god in a mel gibson wet dream of a dystopia.
Oskar, you might like City of Lost Children. It is futuristic and surreal, but not sure if Noir. It does get mentioned a lot in the same sentence as some you listed. Personally, I HATED it, but I understand that I loathe what I consider weird movies, and COTC was definitely very weird, but some people who know good movies love it
La cité des enfants perdus (1995)
My favorite Noir by far is Brick. It's sort of a modernized Noir, and not futuristic or anything. I don't watch much Noir, but loved this
Brick (2005)
Also, not Noir or scifi, but whenever I think of dark, I think of The Proposition. Greatest western ever made. Even better than Butch Cassidy and Unforgiven. A lot different than those though. It's much more sinister and realistic IMO. Also one of the most underrated. Easily arguably top 10 of all time
The Proposition (2005)
Also when thinking of sinister and dark, can't help but mention Silence of the Lambs. I love that type of intellectually creepy shit way too much
City of lost children was great visually... it's a while since I've seen it. I don't think I particularly liked it, but it's the kind of movie I'm looking for.
Will check out the other two.
Speaking of Noir: The Matese Falcon is one of the few classics that I really liked. The characters in this movie!
- Useless trivia: YouTube - Adam Savage: My quest for the dodo bird, and other obsessions - adam savage talking about his hunt for the maltese falcon.
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Originally Posted by oskar
ya.. so sad.. so very sad.
Tbh, I still love the Matrix, I just completely ignore the sequels lol. I think I've seen those once while I've watched the matrix a good 10-20 times.
The Matrix sequels (like almost every other series that ever existed) suck in comparison to the first, but I still watch them, and they never made the first one any worse by their existence.
I liked Reloaded...but yes Revolutions did suck.
Ya, reloaded was pretty cool, because it was like the lobby scene in the first one, times a million.
Also, empire strikes back was by far the best, and return of the jedi was better than IV.
Away We Go with John Krasinki (The office and Leatherheads) and Maya Rudolph (from SNL) was pretty good, didn't think I'd like it but got into it.
new Machete trailer -- NSFW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liEmaDwNV18
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
I'm standing in line for the premiere. Rodrigues has set a new frontier of awesome. I don't think any human will ever go beyond that and live. At least not in my lifetime.
FUCK YEAH!!! I can't wait!!
I'm excited in anticipation for a Ben Affleck movie? whaaaaaaaa?
YouTube - The Town official Trailer
You shut up. You're excited for a Don Draper movie and you know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
FIGHT CLUB all day
lol fuck no this looks awfulQuote:
Originally Posted by boost
however, you could have said:
I'm excited for a Blake Lively, John Hamm film...yaaaaaaa
The Ben Asslick film will end up with a rating somewhere above 7.4 yet not surpassing Gone Baby Gone at 7.9. It will be good, but not a world-beater. Trailers are almost completely unreliable. Some of the best movies have the worst trailers, vise versa.
Also, all a movie has to do to be good is follow a standard checklist. Great film, however, is an entirely different thing. The Town will very likely be able to follow that checklist well. It's a baffling state of affairs when the vast majority of film can't even do that.
Also, it's got The Croop (Chris Cooper)
He's among top ten most underrated actors, not even close
I think the town will be awesome because it looks like Heat but in boston, and anything that is similar to Heat, which was supremely awesome, will likely be at least standard awesome.
If you truly believed that, why did you give yourself the Ben Affleck out?Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
If you knew this was going to be Heat in Boston (which itself just sounds sad), you would have come in here saying, "Watch this and prepare for your mouth to water, gents." But you didn't. You floated on the Ben Affleck angle, so if it were to flop, you could shake your fist damning the Affleck for tricking you again.
You hope it's going to be awesome, but you've been let down before by the Heat-alikes. Like a woman in an abusive relationship, you find every reason to come crawling back, admit it!
This is true. *sob* so very true.. you've seen into the depths of my cinema soul..
It's a long road to recovery but you've taken the first step.
Affleck is a good director, but he's not Mann, and I don't even particularly dig Mann. It will take more than Asslick and Croop to get up to Heat
WTF hollywood... this movie is 2 years old and they're remaking it scene for scene with an american cast. What's the point.
Let Me In (2010)
The original is brilliant btw, but wtf is this shit.
I just realized this wasn't the movie un-recommendation thread. Too late.
Predators isn't very good either.
'mericans dont like hearing moonspeak, nor do we like being made to read in the movies.
mur'ca, fuck yeah.
closed captions are almost always better than not.
Due to my genetic hearing impairment, I watch all my film with subs or CC, and so my friends have had to watch them as well when we watched them together, and over time they all decided that they prefer the subs/CC because they realized that even with their super hearing they still miss a lot of important dialogue
I will not put subs on for american english, but I will if I'm watching a british movie with heavy accents and I feel I need it. And also I was obviously mocking my fellow 'mercans as watching foreign movies with subs doesn't bother me one bit.. especially since the alternative is dubbed which is only acceptable when it comes to hong kong cinema.
I put subs/cc on for everything that I can (except live sports, the cc gets so far behind it drives me nuts) for the same reason as wuf's friends. And besides missing potentially important stuff you can also catch some of the more subtle stuff easier, which is pretty awesome sometimes.
I first became aware of your english/merican language barrier when I watched lesbian vampire killers and it came with english subtitles on by default. And I'm like wtf, it's an english movie!Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
I'd understand it if it was scottish or gaelic, but brittish english? It's just a funny accent with a few extra words.
What gives?
YouTube - TITANIC II (Official Trailer)
Let's just call it...The Deuce
Hahahaha
1st Mate guy: Let's make history.
Ship starts to sink.
Same guy: Looks like history is repeating itself.
I can already tell this is going to be good.
If there's not any motherfucking snakes on that motherfucking ship, it will be a waste
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
same production company made the straight to dvd blockbuster "Snakes On A Train" .. srsly..
Equilibrium YouTube - Equilibrium trailerQuote:
Originally Posted by oskar
Equilibrium is without question one of the best sci-fi/actions ever made. Neo who? Morpheus who? John Preston FTMFW
I'm still baffled at how Emily Watson landed the 'hot' female role opposite Bale.
I agree ftmp wuf. They took 1984 and turned it into a sci-fi/action movie, how fucking awesome is that? But then they gave 1984 a happy ending... Still, its on par if not superior to the matrix (talking about the first matrix ldo.. when they are considered as a body, eq crushes them outright.)