no doubt donk, I am taking your ass down on the 12th
June so far ($/hand is optimal imo... been on a bit of a mini-vacation after finishing school) :
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no doubt donk, I am taking your ass down on the 12th
June so far ($/hand is optimal imo... been on a bit of a mini-vacation after finishing school) :
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8...ofarwp5.th.jpg
I haven't posted in forever but I figured I'd make a detailed hand post just for fun.
First off, I don't win showdowns. This is kind of normal since I play a higher variance style but I'm pretty sure I've been generally running cold in '08. Here are some stats since April :
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8...sftwsp5.th.jpg
This is a hand that illustrates what I try to do in spots in spots where I choose higher variance routes.
This hand may seem easy, but I think it’s a spot where plenty of taggish regs miss value on the turn. Let’s go through the hand step-by-step :
Seat 1: FloppyDuc sits out
Seat 3: HERO ($340 in chips)
Seat 4: Marsdawg ($292 in chips)
Seat 5: lurcher01 ($95.56 in chips)
Seat 6: Jwmoon ($81.24 in chips)
Seat 7: ennitti ($200 in chips)
Seat 8: LETS_BUST ($199.75 in chips)
Seat 9: BIZZBUZZ ($253 in chips)
Seat 10: Damboland ($218.50 in chips)
Damboland: posts small blind $1
HERO: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :9c: :td:
Marsdawg: folds
lurcher01: folds
lurcher01 sits out
Jwmoon: calls $2 (ok so this is rarely very strong! No strong reads but usually this weak open-limp b.s. is small pp’s Ax or SC’s)
ennitti: calls $2
LETS_BUST: folds
BIZZBUZZ: folds
Damboland: folds
HERO: checks
----- FLOP ----- :8d: :tc: :4s:
HERO: bets $5 (yawn)
Jwmoon: calls $5
OK. Let’s put villain on a range of hands. The important thing to do here is to assume villains are playing somewhat logically, i.e. protecting their big hands, not calling with total air, etc.
So his calling range imo looks something like :
-all mid connectors between 5x and 9x (56, 57, 67, 78, 89)
-weak made hands (4x, 8x and Tx)
-small PP’s that just wanna peel a turn and see if I continue
-strong straight draws that can make the nuts (79, J9, QJ, Q9)
When making this bet, the important question to ask yourself is “which turns can I profitably bet for value?” The answer lies in how strongly we weight his range to each of the above-mentioned categories. In this case, since I’m holding a ten, we have to discount the combinations of Tx, therefore making it less likely we’re value-towning ourselves if the turn bricks off. So I plan on betting most A and K turns. Obv I,ll be betting when I improve to 2 pr or trips and I’ll be bet-folding most mid-cards (things like 5, 6 or 7; if villain semi-bluff shoves then I’ll tip my cap to him… most players at these limits are loose and weak so I just expect to call me down)
ennitti: folds
----- TURN ----- :8d: :tc: :4s: :ah:
HERO: bets $14
An interesting question is what to do when faced with a raise on this turn… Except in this spot. I’d fold to a raise here almost 100% of the time since most players have a default mentality of “he bet and A hi board, he must have something!” so they’ll rarely raise light.
lurcher01 sits back
Jwmoon: calls $14… the cool thing about the A on the turn is that it doesn’t really change anything in villain’s range since he now may have reason to believe he has sick implied odds with any str8 draw after I 2-barelled when the A hit the turn.
One consideration is that QJ just picked up a double-gutter and a hand like QJs is def a decent part of an unknown’s MP limping range. The plan is gonna usually be to check-evaluate the river. We’re not very worried at this point about villain having Ax since that would’ve been a total random float and we’d expect him to raise the turn when he made 2 pair with aces up.
----- RIVER ----- :8d: :tc: :4s: :ah: :ad:
HERO: checks Wow… what an awesome card. Now we’re pretty sure villain didn’t hit top pair on the turn. The question is whether or not to value-bet. I chose to check for the following reasons :
-bluffs will usually put out a lot of money to get me to fold, so I profit
-I can’t be sure how much money I’ll be able to extract from a hand like 78, so v betting would be VERY thin in this spot obv. Also I don’t expect a random villain to turn a hand like 4x or 7x into a bluff and put me into a tough spot.
-the hands that will feel compelled to bet when checked to (straight draws i.e. air) greatly outnumber the made hands that will pay me off (since I am holding a ten), so I think the value of check-call is far greater than the value of bet-fold
Jwmoon: bets $60.24 and is all-in
HERO: calls $60.24
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Jwmoon: shows :qd: :jd: (A Pair of Aces, Queen high)
HERO: shows :9c: :td: (Two Pairs, Aces and Tens, Nine high)
HERO collected $162.48 from Main pot
So this hand worked out pretty well. I see a lot of regs who auto-check this turn, thinking "I don't wanna build a pot vs this donkey's Ax that just sucked out on me". I think both the results for the hand and the ranges I assigned villain's holdings show why it's probably more profitable to bet this turn, even OOP.
I Over the next few days, I’ll try and post some other hands, both that were awesome and that didn’t work out so well, with detailed analysis.
nice post, ill try keep your thoughts in mind
God, I have so much to learn about poker still.
Keep these posts up, it was great :).
just had a glance over your blog. its a soid read imo, keep it up and ill try give my thought son some hands.
Playing to get unstuck is bad.
Problem is, there's nothing more satisfying than turning a bad session into a nice win.
Tonight, I sat down and played some PLO100 and 200. I think my game is decent, although I'm def losing money to the regs, and things started out o.k. PLO being PLO, I ran into some variance that wasn't fun. So after dropping 4 buyins at the plo200 table I decided to leave it and go "get unstuck" at NLHE.
I don't track PLO with pokertracker but here are the nlhe hands after deciding it was time to win some money. Things started out kind of meh but I made some pretty big folds that I think were decent and felt like I was playing well
This hand was pretty gross. There’s a small % of times where villain is pushing me off a split or turning a 2pr hand into a bluff but the insta-shove seemed strong here. Bleh :
Table "Wollongong" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: Dani1983 ($262.35 in chips)
Seat 2: Chr311270 ($105.05 in chips)
Seat 3: 3musk07 ($206.44 in chips)
Seat 4: Sm11thos ($247.54 in chips)
Seat 5: Christin8 ($117 in chips)
Seat 6: aura135 ($169.30 in chips)
Seat 7: HERO ($411.65 in chips)
Seat 8: msotown1 ($294.43 in chips)
Seat 9: n1sarah ($188 in chips)
Seat 10: thanksG ($219.85 in chips)
Sm11thos: posts small blind $1
Christin8: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :qh: :9h:
aura135: folds
HERO: raises to $7
msotown1: folds
n1sarah: folds
thanksG: folds
Dani1983: calls $7
Chr311270: calls $7
3musk07: folds
Sm11thos: calls $6
Christin8: folds
----- FLOP ----- :jh: :tc: :2c:
Sm11thos: checks
HERO: bets $22
Dani1983: folds
Chr311270: folds
Sm11thos: calls $22
----- TURN ----- :jh: :tc: :2c: :8d:
Sm11thos: checks
HERO: bets $61
Sm11thos: calls $61
----- RIVER ----- :jh: :tc: :2c: :8d: :7c:
Sm11thos: bets $157.54 and is all-in
HERO: folds
Returned uncalled bets $157.54 to Sm11thos
Sm11thos: doesn't show hand
Sm11thos collected $193 from Main pot
Here’s another marginal hand. There are several possibilities here both on the flop and the turn. I don’t think I ever get bluffed on this river…
Seat 1: Dani1983 ($332.95 in chips)
Seat 2: basket114 ($197 in chips)
Seat 3: 3musk07 ($263.65 in chips)
Seat 4: blackhand ($43.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Christin8 ($109.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Atara ($196.95 in chips)
Seat 7: HERO ($504.15 in chips)
Seat 8: msotown1 ($375.33 in chips)
Seat 9: n1sarah ($189.75 in chips)
Seat 10: thanksG sits out
3musk07: posts small blind $1
blackhand: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :ah: :kh:
Christin8: folds
Atara: folds
Christin8 sits out
HERO: raises to $7
msotown1: calls $7
n1sarah: folds
Dani1983: folds
basket114: folds
3musk07: calls $6
blackhand: folds
----- FLOP ----- :ad: :2d: :5s:
3musk07: bets $20
HERO: calls $20
msotown1: folds
----- TURN ----- :ad: :2d: :5s: :2s:
3musk07: bets $50
HERO: calls $50
----- RIVER ----- :ad: :2d: :5s: :2s: :jd:
3musk07: bets $186.65 and is all-in
HERO: folds
Returned uncalled bets $186.65 to 3musk07
3musk07: doesn't show hand
3musk07 collected $160 from Main pot
One thing I do from time to time that is very uncommon (and completely unnecessary to being a winning player at these stakes) is check-raise the river as a bluff. I'd like to think that I do it with a balanced range, but much of the time it just comes down to three things :
-villain is a reg who is capable of folding relatively strong hands
-villain knows I make aggro calls so value-bets me thinly when I look to be in check-call mode
-Spidey sense (lol but it's true)
I'm only talking about this because in reviewing my session, I noticed I had taken this line with two pretty big bluffs tonight. I felt really confident with both of them based on table dynamics and timing but I'll post the raw HH's just for fun. Both villains were on the tighter side of tagg and thinking. Another thing to notice (and this is where lots of ppl disagree with this move) is that there's a decent chance I'm good in both of these spots but I really prefer raising to calling since I think when I call I'm paying off slightly better hands a decent % of the time that are very hard-pressed to call :
Seat 1: 3musk07 ($446.90 in chips)
Seat 2: P0kah8 ($40 in chips)
Seat 3: 2BigFish ($177 in chips)
Seat 4: Teegaa1 ($270.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Mickaa ($1669.21 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO ($465.50 in chips)
Mickaa: posts small blind $1
HERO: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :kd: :kh:
3musk07: raises to $8
P0kah8: folds
2BigFish: folds
Teegaa1: folds
Mickaa: folds
HERO: raises to $32
3musk07: calls $24
----- FLOP ----- :6h: :ah: :5h:
HERO: checks
3musk07: checks
----- TURN ----- :6h: :ah: :5h: :5s:
HERO: checks
3musk07: bets $24
HERO: calls $24
----- RIVER ----- :6h: :ah: :5h: :5s: :2d:
HERO: checks
3musk07: bets $74
HERO: raises to $409.50 and is all-in
3musk07: folds
Returned uncalled bets $335.50 to HERO
HERO: doesn't show hand
HERO collected $258 from Main pot
Seat 1: Dani1983 ($333.35 in chips)
Seat 2: Chr311270 ($200.35 in chips)
Seat 3: 3musk07 ($200.54 in chips)
Seat 4: Sm11thos ($145.77 in chips)
Seat 5: Christin8 ($117 in chips)
Seat 6: aura135 ($176.15 in chips)
Seat 7: HERO ($311.20 in chips)
Seat 8: msotown1 ($292.43 in chips)
Seat 9: n1sarah ($228 in chips)
Seat 10: thanksG ($187.85 in chips)
aura135: posts small blind $1
HERO: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :ad: :td:
msotown1: folds
n1sarah: folds
thanksG: folds
Dani1983: raises to $8
Chr311270: folds
3musk07: folds
Sm11thos: calls $8
Christin8: folds
aura135: folds
HERO: calls $6
----- FLOP ----- :4d: :as: :jh:
HERO: checks
Dani1983: bets $18
Sm11thos: folds
HERO: calls $18
----- TURN ----- :4d: :as: :jh: :3h:
HERO: checks
Dani1983: checks
----- RIVER ----- :4d: :as: :jh: :3h: :3d:
HERO: checks
Dani1983: bets $42
HERO: raises to $285.20 and is all-in
Dani1983: folds
Returned uncalled bets $243.20 to HERO
HERO: doesn't show hand
HERO collected $142 from Main pot
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Post your flames or comments or questions and gg gl etc
Why do you bluff that last one when you have a decent showdown hand?
Nice run, pity the 2nd 600 hands didnt go as well as the first 600 :).
I think by the river there's a decent chance he's either bluffing or betting AK/AQ that was pot-controlling turn in case I had a monster after c/calling the dry flop.Quote:
Originally Posted by bjsaust
He likely bets AAA or JJJ 100% of the time on the turn to protect vs random str8 or FD's and is rly rly hard-pressed to call with AK AQ. +He has almost no 3x hands in his opening range besides quadzillas.
Tonight’s session was pretty frustrating and swongy. I started off with a couple brutal coolers and almost stopped to do some flips with my friend Ben.
Instead, I decided to just grind it out. Just as things started slowing down (breaking even instead of losing with sets), Ben convinced me to put my entire stars roll (12$ ftw) on the line at a plo25 table vs him. While 8-tabling on a laptop, IMing and trying to open Riggederstars, I almost lost it, but I’m glad I didn’t. I turned my 12$ into 80ish (mainly random victims but prob half from Ben) and the good karma spilled over to the tables, where I was able to book a small win.
2 hands from the session, a 3-barrel (where I prob pushed villain off a very similar hand or maybe just a busted FD) and a big call after getting a pretty strong timing tell.
3-barrel :
Table "Wollongong" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: 3musk07 ($940.31 in chips)
Seat 2: Melonaer ($189 in chips)
Seat 3: Ultgamb ($243.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Strudel ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: The_miko ($85.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Noltek2 ($42.75 in chips)
Seat 7: Tehini ($88.85 in chips)
Seat 8: Tivoli3 ($234.20 in chips)
Seat 9: HERO ($280.75 in chips)
Seat 10: basket114 ($180 in chips)
Strudel: posts small blind $1
The_miko: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :js: :ts:
Noltek2: folds
Tehini: folds
Tivoli3: folds
HERO: raises to $7
basket114: folds
3musk07: calls $7
Melonaer: folds
Ultgamb: folds
Strudel: folds
The_miko: calls $5
----- FLOP ----- :kd: :3h: :jh:
The_miko: checks
HERO: bets $18
3musk07: calls $18
The_miko: folds
----- TURN ----- :kd: :3h: :jh: :6d:
HERO: bets $42
3musk07: calls $42
----- RIVER ----- :kd: :3h: :jh: :6d: :qs:
HERO: bets $124
3musk07: folds
Returned uncalled bets $124 to HERO
HERO: doesn't show hand
HERO collected $139 from Main pot
RapedUrSoulament :
Table "Heliosphere" Seat 9 is the button.
Seat 2: HERO ($220.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Mully123 sits out
Seat 6: peej32 ($71.01 in chips)
Seat 9: catD10 ($215 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
peej32: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :qd: :jd:
catD10: calls $2
HERO: raises to $11
peej32: calls $9
catD10: calls $9
----- FLOP ----- :9c: :2h: :7s:
HERO: bets $25
peej32: folds
catD10: calls $25
----- TURN ----- :9c: :2h: :7s: :3d:
Mrs_begg joins the table at seat #5
HERO: checks
catD10: checks
----- RIVER ----- :9c: :2h: :7s: :3d: :4d:
HERO: checks
catD10: bets $50
HERO: calls $50
----- SHOW DOWN -----
catD10: shows :6c: :8d: (High Card Nine)
HERO: shows :qc: :jd: (High Card Queen)
HERO collected $181 from Main pot
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Q high is good lol
no shit lol how would I have felt if he had value-towned me with KJ!Quote:
Originally Posted by Da GOAT
Like a Bitch!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Genitruc
Villain is Alexos. Not sure which is worse (or sicker?), his shove or my call. Fwiw, I’ve seen him play very very spewy preflop at these stakes, always looking to be the one to get the money in (i.e. 4-bet shoving A6o to my 3-bet and a cold-caller from the blinds after he raised from the cutoff).
Game #5937418093: Hold'em NL ($1/$2) - 2008/06/26 - 08:44:46 (UK)
Table "Navy" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: dukatos ($203 in chips)
Seat 2: kArmAstAr ($211.45 in chips)
Seat 3: P0kah8 ($55 in chips)
Seat 4: HERO ($412.21 in chips)
Seat 5: Alexos ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: Selcuk81 ($182.86 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Alexos: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :ad: :3d:
Selcuk81: folds
dukatos: folds
kArmAstAr: folds
P0kah8: folds
HERO: raises to $8
Alexos: raises to $26
HERO: raises to $56
Alexos: raises to $200 and is all-in
HERO: calls $144
----- FLOP ----- :5d: :3h: :jh:
----- TURN ----- :5d: :3h: :jh: :7d:
----- RIVER ----- :5d: :3h: :jh: :7d: :3c:
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Alexos: shows :9c: :jd: (Two Pairs, Jacks and Threes, Nine high)
HERO: shows :ad: :3d: (Three of a kind, Threes, Ace high)
HERO collected $397 from Main pot
well, we should also note that I didnt know you knew it was me... if I did know that I would never expect you to fold to my shove :P Also you insta 3bet so i figured you dont have QQ+ ? Also you hitting that 3 is def rigged
NH, but u should posts the other overbet ownages :D
u mean all the times you turn/rivered me?
pfft that s way too standard to post ;)
also, I was fking waaaaaaaaaaaasted and just running out of control all over the place
it was fun
Seat 1: dukatos sits out
Seat 4: HERO ($777.86 in chips)
Seat 5: Alexos ($215.40 in chips)
Alexos: posts small blind $1
HERO: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :qd: :ts:
Alexos: raises to $6
HERO: calls $4
----- FLOP ----- :qh: :ad: :3c:
HERO: checks
Alexos: bets $8
HERO: calls $8
----- TURN ----- :qh: :ad: :3c: :5c:
HERO: checks
Alexos: bets $22
HERO: calls $22
----- RIVER ----- :qh: :ad: :3c: :5c: :8s:
HERO: checks
Alexos: bets $96
HERO: calls $96
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Alexos: shows :5h: :qs: (Two Pairs, Queens and Fives, Ace high)
HERO: mucks hand :qd: :ts:
Alexos collected $263 from Main pot
Seat 1: dukatos sits out
Seat 4: HERO ($768.06 in chips)
Seat 5: Alexos ($206.40 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Alexos: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :2d: :3d:
HERO: calls $1
Alexos: checks
----- FLOP ----- :jc: :js: :2h:
Alexos: checks
HERO: bets $4
Alexos: calls $4
----- TURN ----- :jc: :js: :2h: :tc:
Alexos: checks
HERO: bets $7
Alexos: calls $7
----- RIVER ----- :jc: :js: :2h: :tc: :4c:
Alexos: bets $40
HERO: calls $40
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Alexos: shows :2c: :9c: (A Flush, Jack high)
HERO: mucks hand :2d: :3d:
Alexos collected $105 from Main pot
I'll preface this post with a graph of my last 50k hands at teh lowstakes :
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9...prilky3.th.jpg
Nothing sicko, but def solid results.
Now today. I managed to drop 3.5k in 2k hands without playing a single hand of nl500.
I dropped 1.4k to a single villain playing HU at nl200. This is a pretty bad sign, but fwiw I felt like I was playing pretty well and I def felt like I had an edge on the guy.
To be honest, I sat with the player - who I think is a decent - just for the challenge of beating up on a reg. Ppl were coming in and out at the table but it was pretty much HU for about 45 minutes.
Obv I'd be much better off just playing any medium-soft nl500 game I can find and it's probably a bad result of my BR nittiness, since I am sitting with over 100 buyins for nl200. Err... I WAS sitting on over 100 buyins for nl200 at the start of the day.
I'm not even really tilted but I thought I'd post some hands from the HU match and see if anybody has any input.
Villain was a pretty laggy reg who seemed to RR a pretty strong range but didn't like to fold to 3-bets.
Here was the 1st big pot we played :
At this point he had no reason to think I was overaggro or spewy. I’m 3-betting a very polarized range of junk and big hands to combat his loose 3-bet calling that will easily put me in lots of tough spots with air if I c-bet a decent frequency.
1)
Table "Gas" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($228 in chips)
Seat 3: abunga ($99.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($328.28 in chips)
Villain: posts small blind $1
HERO: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :7d: :8s:
Villain: raises to $8
HERO: raises to $24
Villain: calls $16
----- FLOP ----- :jh: :9d: :5d:
HERO: bets $35
abunga sits out
Villain: calls $35
----- TURN ----- :jh: :9d: :5d: :8h:
HERO: bets $81
Villain: raises to $269.28 and is all-in
HERO: is all-in $88
Returned uncalled bets $100.28 to Villain
----- RIVER ----- :jh: :9d: :5d: :8h: :4s:
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Villain: shows :ah: :9c: (A Pair of Nines, Ace high)
HERO: shows :7d: :8s: (A Pair of Eights, Jack high)
Villain collected $455 from Main pot
So right away, I see that he’s not afraid of getting it in light, and my image is kind of shot.
This next hand is kind of gross. At the time, I felt like his range was polarized to 333 and draws. I didn t think about the fact that he could have Kx with hearts that would prob snap the turn, figuring that I'd shove the flop with better made hands.
2)
Table "Gas" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($218.90 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($530.58 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Villain: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :3c: :9c:
HERO: raises to $7
Villain: calls $5
----- FLOP ----- :3h: :kd: :qh:
Villain: checks
HERO: bets $11
Villain: raises to $28
HERO: calls $17
----- TURN ----- :3h: :kd: :qh: :6s:
Villain: bets $46
HERO: raises to $183.90 and is all-in
Villain: calls $137.90
----- RIVER ------ :3h: :kd: :qh: :6s: :2d:
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows :3c: :9c: (A Pair of Threes, King high)
Villain: shows :kc: :qs: (Two Pairs, Kings and Queens, Six high)
Villain collected $436.80 from Main pot
This next big hand seemed kind of standard to me. I dunno, I’ve been playing mainly 6 max lately because none of the regs at these stakes sit with me until it s 3-handed so my only experience has been with drunk fish. Maybe this is spewy?
3)
Table "Gas" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($297.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($668.03 in chips)
Villain: posts small blind $1
HERO: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :qc: :jc:
Villain: raises to $6
HERO: raises to $23
Villain: calls $17
----- FLOP ----- :5d: :7c: :8c:
HERO: bets $32
Villain: calls $32
----- TURN ----- :5d: :7c: :8c: :5d:
HERO: checks
Villain: bets $48
HERO: raises to $242.75 and is all-in
Villain: calls $194.75
----- RIVER ----- :5d: :7c: :8c: :5d: :kh:
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows :qc: :jc: (A Pair of Fives, King high)
Villain: shows :5h: :6s: (Three of a kind, Fives, King high)
Villain collected $594.50 from Main pot
4)
Once again, not sure what to say here. He hasn’t slowplayed anything preflop (that I’ve seen at showdown) and he can’t really have any non-set made hands here… or at least that s what I thought :
Table "Gas" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($228.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($948.78 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Villain: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :kc: :3s:
HERO: raises to $7
Villain: calls $5
----- FLOP ----- :kd: :2d: :7s:
Villain: checks
HERO: bets $11
Villain: raises to $28
HERO: calls $17
----- TURN ----- :kd: :2d: :7s: :jh:
Villain: bets $52
HERO: raises to $193.30 and is all-in
Villain: calls $141.30
----- RIVER ----- :kd: :2d: :7s: :jh: :5d:
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows :kc: :3s: (A Pair of Kings, Jack high)
Villain: shows :as: :kh: (A Pair of Kings, Ace high)
Villain collected $455.60 from Main pot
5)
Now I’ve grinded him back a bit (he’s been calling me down really light and I haven’t been bluffing much) and this happens. Nothing to say, just kind of a throw-up-in-your-mouth-that-this-happens-when-running-bad special :
Table "Gas" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($481.40 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($886.78 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Villain: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :ts: :th:
HERO: raises to $7
Villain: raises to $20
HERO: calls $13
----- FLOP ----- :qc: :8s: :td:
Villain: bets $27
HERO: raises to $92
Villain: raises to $178
HERO: raises to $461.40 and is all-in
Villain: calls $283.40
----- TURN ----- :qc: :8s: :td: :kh:
----- RIVER ----- :qc: :8s: :td: :kh: :ad:
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows :ts: :th: (Three of a kind, Tens, Ace high)
Villain: shows :qd: :qs: (Three of a kind, Queens, Ace high)
Villain collected $961.80 from Main pot
Obviously, that was the nail in my coffin. Here’s the last 100bb+ pot. I misread my hand and thought I had a straight, but I really don’t mind this shove on this board even if I knew that I only had Q high :
6)
Game #6072363173: Hold'em NL ($1/$2) - 2008/07/09 - 04:47:22 (UK)
Table "Gas" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($205.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Villain ($1361.18 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
Villain: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :qh: :5h:
HERO: raises to $7
Villain: calls $5
----- FLOP ----- :6c: :9d: :7h:
Villain: checks
HERO: bets $11
Villain: raises to $28
HERO: calls $17
----- TURN ----- :6c: :9d: :7h: :4s:
Villain: bets $49
HERO: raises to $170.30 and is all-in
Villain: calls $121.30
----- RIVER ----- :6c: :9d: :7h: :4s: :ad:
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows :qh: :5h: (High Card Ace)
Villain: shows :9c: :6s: (Two Pairs, Nines and Sixes, Ace high)
Villain collected $409.60 from Main pot
I’d love to hear any comments from ppl who have more experience playing HU vs regs.
fuck me
just as i m moving up to nl500, i find a way to lose 5k at nl200l, 300 and 400 in 2 days with a stellar showdown win % of 29% in 5k hands. Just like that my Interpoker bankroll goes from 21k to 16k and I lose all momentum heading into a move to nl500.
if i plateau at these fucking lame limits I'm seriously just gonna... Well, I dunno what I'm gonna do, but it s gonna involve frustration, alcohol and recklessness.
fuck
me
fuck interpoker imo, and fuck july
thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Alexos
Quote:
Originally Posted by Genitruc
lol.. man.. change the numbers from nl500 to nl1k and switch around some other numbers.. and yah.. sounds pretty on par with how I feel right about now!
gl man, you'll recover!
Right now I'm as tilted as I've ever been.
Played 1480 hands just now. It started off decent...
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Also, it feels like every time I win a big pot, it's cuz I make a great call. Nothing is easy, etc.
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Here are the two biggest pots I won today. Seems like the only fucking way I can win a stack is by owning souls:
Game #6100721113: Hold'em NL (£1/£2) - 2008/07/11 - 22:46:10 (UK)
Table "Atshoa" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: pb63668 (£202.78 in chips)
Seat 2: HERO (£211.40 in chips)
Seat 3: Oscar06 (£434.15 in chips)
Seat 4: scotty204 (£157.98 in chips)
Seat 5: stabec (£197 in chips)
Seat 6: OwnYrSoul (£406.40 in chips)
pb63668: posts small blind £1
HERO: posts big blind £2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :tc: :ks:
Oscar06: folds
scotty204: raises to £4
stabec: folds
OwnYrSoul: calls £4
pb63668: calls £3
HERO: calls £2
----- FLOP ----- :5c: :8d: :kc:
pb63668: checks
HERO: bets £13
scotty204: calls £13
OwnYrSoul: folds
pb63668: calls £13
----- TURN ----- :5c: :8d: :kc: :jh:
pb63668: checks
HERO: checks
scotty204: bets £8
pb63668: calls £8
HERO: raises to £51
scotty204: calls £43
pb63668: folds
----- RIVER ----- :5c: :8d: :kc: :jh: :6d:
HERO: checks
scotty204: bets £89.98 and is all-in
HERO: calls £89.98
----- SHOW DOWN -----
scotty204: shows :7s: :8s: (A Pair of Eights, King high)
HERO: shows :tc: :ks: (A Pair of Kings, Jack high)
HERO collected £341.96 from Main pot
Game #6098661853: Hold'em NL (£1/£2) - 2008/07/11 - 21:22:27 (UK)
Table "Taunton" Seat 9 is the button.
Seat 2: basket114 (£197 in chips)
Seat 3: Chavinder (£102.40 in chips)
Seat 6: Pau270995 (£91.80 in chips)
Seat 7: who_the_h (£176.20 in chips)
Seat 8: Nick9fe (£267.90 in chips)
Seat 9: HERO (£200 in chips)
Seat 10: Simmel (£198 in chips)
Simmel: posts small blind £1
basket114: posts big blind £2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :kc: :jd:
Chavinder: folds
Pau270995: folds
who_the_h: folds
Nick9fe: folds
xXXXx joins the table at seat #5
HERO: raises to £7
Simmel: calls £6
basket114: folds
----- FLOP ----- :ks: :9s: :2d:
Simmel: checks
HERO: bets £12
Simmel: raises to £38
HERO: calls £26
----- TURN ----- :ks: :9s: :2d: :ah:
Simmel: bets £80
HERO: raises to £155 and is all-in
Simmel: is all-in £73
Returned uncalled bets £2 to HERO
----- RIVER ----- :ks: :9s: :2d: :ah: :th:
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows :kc: :jd: (A Pair of Kings, Ace high)
Simmel: shows :js: :ts: (A Pair of Tens, Ace high)
HERO collected £395 from Main pot
I made a 5-bet shove after I got min 4-bet by chaotica after making an obvious squeeze. I did it with Kx suited and got snapped off by TT.
After that I figured it would be time to get paid off cuz of my image and just go with AQ+ preflop vs him but, instead, in the last 2 orbits, I got it in Co vs Btn my AQ to chaotica's AK, and then shoved over a flop raise on the drawiest flop ever with BD nut flushdraw and 2nd pair top kicker. Board was KT7cc and I had AcTx.
Villain had Ak obv that he had flatted pre with
I seriously felt like I played great for this entire session... and I dropped 2k... and still didn't play a fucking hand of nl500
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The fact that I'm so tilted by this downswing is proof to me that I'm nowhere near ready to move up.
nl500 so far imo
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8...0imoam3.th.jpg
bout time imo
Thats kinda hot man.
43ptBB/100!!!!
definitely sustainable, nh
If only I had won a showdown in the past two months at limits lower than nl500 I might have something going...
I'm gonna be away from my laptop for about 10 days this month and I've just gotten over/am getting through some personal stuff so I've decided to post a few simple goals for the month of August :
-play 25k hands, at least 15k at nl500 (I'm overrolled but whatever ; I'm happier that way)
-play as nitty as possible, only spew in great spots to spew... so don't spew
-take a couple shots at nl1k when the games look awesome
My life has been a roller-coaster lately and I've really avoided playing when I felt out of whack. That's pretty much why I only got 22k hands in after having played 15k by July 15th.
Hopefully I can be pretty focused and productive ; I feel like my game is better than it's ever been and I can't wait to kick things into high gear.
Hope everyone is doing as well as possible. GL for August.
just played a quick session
I guess I've cooled off a bit at nl500 over my past 500 hands?
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6...goffwt6.th.jpg
p.s. Bottom set no goot Alexos
such a donk loll
Haha sick man... hope you keep up the winrate! :)
good folds today too.. I had the nutsss
u have no idea how close i came to raising turn in the hand you had J8ssQuote:
Originally Posted by griffey24
I obviously need to get to 500nl as quickly as possible...
GOING ON A CRUUUUUUUUIIIIIIIIIIIIISE IMO
omgggg ahhaha... wish i coulda played... see u miami imo!!
I guess days like this are part of building a roll worth speaking about
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/760...edayuo7.th.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Genitruc
Ooooooooh man, that's like my kind of day! Lose 10 buyins in the morning, and make it back in the evening. HAHA... good job sir, nice comeback!
Oh and congrats on winning the cruise, hopefully I make it out there too!
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I haven't been this tilted by somebody in I don't know how long
I'm too pissed to waste my time converting the hands but SERIOUSLY ADSFLJK; KL;SADJ;KASDJ;KADSJK;AS J;ASDF ;JADS ;JADS
I'm having a good session, sitting at a 2-5 fullring table with 2.7k
This weird and terrible semi-reg fish named "LETS_BUST" sits down and limp-calls 59cc utg and stacks my KK on 59Thh board. OK cool
After giving most of my money away, he decides to limp-call QThh utg and stacks my AA getting it in on T42 rainbow flop.
So now my 2.7k stack is down to about 1.6k and he's sitting on about 1.2k.
He limps again and I punish with 99.
We get all in on 459hh flop for a 2.5k pot + some guy drawing dead for an extra buyin of dead money w QQ and no flush redraw.
Obv he spikes the riv and ships the pot. Looking at someone's stack hasn't tilted me like this in forever asdf jkal;asd jkf;lJAKLSL;DFJ ADS JL;LKFASJD ;AADSA;SDJ ;SAD
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If that's not tilt-worthy, I don't know what is... That sucks man.
blah blah... Most of the time...blah blah, variance fucking sucks sometimes.
hehe thanks chris
I settled down pretty quickly ; still made about 1k on the session, but MAN could it have been a monster day.
Another good day (with no end-of-session tilt inducing suckouts) and I know that I'm getting close to 5-10. I'll have the BR for it pretty soon but I'll table select really hard initially, like I did with 2-5. My connection sucks ass down here in Peru so I'll def wait to get back home to move up.
Plz no big downswing kthx
I've made a bunch of buyins at 2-5 since last posting. From here on in, I'm gonna keep my results private.
I may post some hands soon but for now I'm busy mentoring a friend of mine and playing a shitton of hands. Fwiw I think I'm actually good at the pokerz now, not just at killing bad loose-passive fish ; Alex and Griffey are the only regs on my site who will sit with my me HU.
Peace
congratulations on this crucial realizationQuote:
Originally Posted by Genitruc
also, happy to hear ur running well for once ;)
thxQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
cue the doomswitch obv
Haven't posted anything in a while so just committing to posting some hands tomorrow. Have been in a bit of a funk and playing erratically due to some life stuff that has cut into my playing time.
Tomorrow p.m. should be perfect for a 2k hand grind so I'll try and make an in-depth post about the momentum of the session, the results and the most interesting spots.
Played 2.5k hands but unfortunately didn't hit all that many interesting spots.
I abused a lagg a little bit, check-raising ai on the turn a bunch and pretty much always getting him to fold.
Here's the one hand I wanna discuss :
Playing a bunch of tables I’ve kind of switched to a 4-bet or fold style preflop, both in and out of position (although close to 100% OOP).
When I DO call, here’s a pretty basic thing that I do quite a bit vs thinking opponents :
Game #7791518624: Hold'em NL ($2/$5) - 2008/09/19 - 21:51:40 (UK)
Table "Parksville" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 1: Grasso2 ($186 in chips)
Seat 2: cleanuout ($150.08 in chips)
Seat 3: Jonahmog ($1312.70 in chips)
Seat 4: Esox01 ($500 in chips)
Seat 5: Ravageur ($1152.55 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO ($500 in chips)
Jonahmog: posts small blind $2
Esox01: posts big blind $5
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :as: :qd:
Ravageur: folds
HERO: raises to $17
Grasso2: folds
cleanuout: folds
Jonahmog: folds
Esox01: raises to $55
HERO: calls $38
----- FLOP ----- :9d: :kc: :6s:
Esox01: bets $77
HERO: calls $77
----- TURN ----- :9d: :kc: :6s: :3c:
Esox01: checks
HERO: checks
----- RIVER ----- :9d: :kc: :6s: :3c: :7c:
Esox01: checks
HERO: bets $135
Esox01: folds
Returned uncalled bets $135 to HERO
HERO: doesn't show hand
HERO collected $263 from Main pot
His flop betting range is likely AK+ since he was running about 20/12 and unlikely to be 3-betting hands like KQ and KJ. Also, his flop c-bet was insta (i.e. ooh I have the nuts I bet or “ooh K hi flop I win most of the time, I bet!”).
I see lots of ppl who call in position in 3-bet pots just shove over c-bets. This looks a little too polarized in my mind so I prefer to call the flop repping TTish hands or exactly KQ/KJ.
After he checks the turn, I go for an extra – and possibly unnecessary – level of complexity : since some ppl love to checkraise ai on the turn to get more money from floats, I check behind planning on making a fake value-bet on the river to fold out mid PP’s (what hand am I calling the flop with – besides a total float – that something like 88 or TT beats when I bet the riv?). I feel like this is a lot more credible to most regs than float flop – steal turn.
As for the results, I busted KK into AA deep in a tourney and was pretty much breakeven for the session. I felt like I got closer to my A-game as the session progressed and there are a couple semi-interesting hands I might post later tonight if I'm high and bored enough.
I do this line that you showed above sometimes in position, but the plan goes to hell when they lead the river again.
The problem with this line, and something I've been doing OOP is the bet/check/bet bluff line can also work. When you 3-bet OOP you lead on a A/K/Q high flop, you check the turn and if it checks through (you know they are weak for the most part) and you lead the river again. Villain isn't sure how strong you are, since you could have just missed your c/r on the turn.
agreed that oop it's not bad either... but vs good players I prefer to just 4-bet or fold pre
Gah not sure how it happened but I somehow managed to just donk away 2k in the super juicy late-night games.
fuck me, I've now dropped about 8k in the past 5 days, playing what feels like at least my B+ game
Tomorrow will be different I hope.
Felt like I played close to my A game all day and dropped another 3.5k
Fuck me
Funny though, I'm not even worried or tilted about it. Things will turn around soon enough I hope. The graph for September is a gigantic upside down V. Hopefully there'll be an upswing coming in the future. Lately every time I call without the nuts, they have the nuts. When I have the 2nd nuts and do things like CR the river i get snapped off by the nuts, etc. Not even interesting really. Here's a fun hand to give an example.
Villain is running 22/8/0.4 and riv was an insta-shove. Fun
Table "Paphon" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 2: thanksG (£100 in chips)
Seat 3: Niloz2 (£203.36 in chips)
Seat 4: And190678 (£46.51 in chips)
Seat 5: treasure (£94.50 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO (£242.33 in chips)
And190678: posts small blind £0.50
treasure: posts big blind £1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :th: :jd:
HERO: raises to £3
thanksG: calls £3
Niloz2: calls £3
And190678: folds
treasure: folds
----- FLOP ----- :qs: :9d: :8h:
HERO: bets £7
thanksG: folds
Niloz2: calls £7
----- TURN ----- :qs: :9d: :8h: :ac:
HERO: bets £22
Niloz2: calls £22
----- RIVER ----- :qs: :9d: :8h: :ac: :8d:
HERO: bets £65
Niloz2: raises to £171.36 and is all-in
HERO: folds
Returned uncalled bets £106.36 to Niloz2
Niloz2: doesn't show hand
Niloz2 collected £195.50 from Main pot
A few hands later I decided to « make a stand » and call him when he shoved on the river again… GG :
Game #7834060404: Hold'em NL (£0.50/£1) - 2008/09/24 - 10:55:06 (UK)
Table "Paphon" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: irwin9 (£40.19 in chips)
Seat 2: thanksG (£251.48 in chips)
Seat 3: Niloz2 (£239.74 in chips)
Seat 4: mrpink (£100 in chips)
Seat 5: treasure (£91.96 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO (£127.99 in chips)
thanksG: posts small blind £0.50
Niloz2: posts big blind £1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :7d: :7h:
mrpink: raises to £4
treasure: folds
HERO: calls £4
irwin9: folds
thanksG: folds
Niloz2: calls £3
----- FLOP ----- :qh: :ks: :6h:
Niloz2: checks
mrpink: checks
HERO: checks
----- TURN ----- :qh: :ks: :6h: :7s:
Niloz2: checks
mrpink: checks
HERO: bets £12
Niloz2: calls £12
mrpink: folds
mrpink sits out
----- RIVER ----- :qh: :ks: :6h: :7s: :5c:
Niloz2: checks
HERO: bets £24
Niloz2: raises to £223.74 and is all-in
HERO: is all-in £87.99
Returned uncalled bets £111.75 to Niloz2
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Niloz2: shows :8d: :9h: (A Straight, Nine high)
HERO: shows :7d: :7h: (Three of a kind, Sevens, King high)
Niloz2 collected £257.48 from Main pot
Maybe from a meta-game perspective it would’ve been better to call the 1st time and fold the 2nd one… Who knows. The fker was good at coolering me imo.
Also made a kind of spewy shove with AQo in a blind war and then a pretty thin call vs Alexos today and got owned both times, then decided to fold 2nd set vs Alex when the riv brought a 4-straight. Every time I don’t raise for value with a monster on the flop the turn and river come FUCK and then ME.
Whatever, standard boring running bad shit. Like I said before, still think I’m playing really well overall.
Keep up the good play dude, things will turn.
how did the 2/5 pounds go?
I'm super tempted to call that first hand. Even someone so passive would raise like two pair or set earlier right?? hmmm maybe 89 makes sense here or like A8 I guess...
Second hand is meh.. cooler central. I probably actually bet the flop a fair amount once the PFR checks around.
pounds went fine. made little less than a buyin. it's possible i m getting a bit over-aggro at 2-5$ and suffering for it. truth is, I don't think so, feels like i m just playing good laggy poker right now and getting kicked in the nuts.
ya the 1st one felt EXACTLY like A8 or 89. what else does he have? i don t think he s EVER bluffing here so what does that leave? 8T looking to extract from AK?
Feels like 89 to me, but its still a big laydown.
God I dunno man.
Maybe it's time to really start analyzing some things?
Just played a few hands vs WHALES and in the span of 65 hands I rivered top 2 with AQ on AJXXQ board (no flush). Fish leads into me, I make a small raise, he clicks it back...
Then vs a guy who hadn't won a pot in a while, I call full pot on turn with the 2nd nuts on AQKx with 4 hearts and a stationy villain overcalls.
Guy who potted the turn then 2x overbet shoves the river and I have JT with Th... I tank and fold and other villain calls with 7 hi flush and ships the pot.
Very next hand, after tilty guy has busted and table is HU, I after villain limps btn (as he does from every position, running a solid 63/0), I lead w 57o on 478r board. Turn brings another 7 and I lead for full pot - villain snap calls. Riv brings a 2 of hearts that brings running flush. After seeing the big calls villain has made I bet 120 into 80 and villain INSTA min-raises. So board is 47872 and I have 57.
I guess it's just that I've now dropped 13kish withhout a winning session in 10 days... Do any of these hands seem easy to ppl?
blaaah running bad sucks dude, I feel your pain. I'm downswinging too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Genitruc
As for the hands. Hand 1 given whale status I prob just call it off after CiB.
Hand 2: good fold, I mean I can't imagine a) the guy betting bluffing into two ppl b) the guy calling behind you screws you up hard. ul though sick
Hand 3: mannnn you're beat hard here. dump it.
holy FUCK
1st time in a LOOOOONG time I've felt compelled to get myself to tilt-quit from feeling like batshit insane.
I suppose it's partly the accumulated frustration of the quick and nasty downswing but JEEZUS. I only got about 450 hands into a fucking donk-ridden session but I think it's just too dangerous for me to continue. I feel like a complete monkey.
The session started out with me losing AK to AQ and then losing with 2 pair to a rivered gutter by a bad laggy reg.
It’s sickening how close I came to folding this on the river. Oh well 5-1 with trips is good enough to call I suppose. Thing is, vs a passive player (villain was 60/1/.5) I'm almost never good so calling kind of made me throw up.
Seat 1: THE2JETSR ($500 in chips)
Seat 2: Spirillen ($584 in chips)
Seat 3: InsideEdg ($533.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Senator1 sits out
Seat 5: HERO ($1364.45 in chips)
Seat 6: $cashier$ ($271.25 in chips)
Seat 7: Lucky7005 ($562.66 in chips)
Seat 8: The_miko ($187.90 in chips)
Seat 9: Forrest1 ($590.27 in chips)
Seat 10: ZEEMEE ($1013.60 in chips)
The_miko: posts small blind $2
Forrest1: posts big blind $5
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :ac: :6c:
ZEEMEE: folds
Spirillen: folds
InsideEdg: folds
HERO: raises to $17
$cashier$: folds
Lucky7005: calls $17
The_miko: calls $15
Forrest1: folds
----- FLOP ----- :6d: :9h: :6s:
The_miko: checks
Senator1 sits back
HERO: bets $41
Lucky7005: calls $41
The_miko: folds
----- TURN ----- :6d: :9h: :6s: :qs:
HERO: bets $112
Lucky7005: calls $112
----- RIVER ----- :6d: :9h:: 6s: :qs: :3h:
HERO: bets $211
Lucky7005: raises to $392.66 and is all-in
HERO: calls $181.66
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Lucky7005: shows :qd: :qh: (A Full House, Queens full of Sixes)
HERO: shows :ac: :6c: (Three of a kind, Sixes, Ace high)
Lucky7005 collected $1144.32 from Main pot
Villain here was running a healthy 63/5/.5
Table "CotedIvoire" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: bertil45 (£49.09 in chips)
Seat 2: DarkChaos (£274.12 in chips)
Seat 3: Blackoak (£368 in chips)
Seat 4: mattisjoh (£164.79 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO (£266.20 in chips)
bertil45: posts small blind £1
DarkChaos: posts big blind £2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :4c: :4s:
Blackoak: folds
mattisjoh: calls £2
HERO: raises to £8
bertil45: folds
DarkChaos: folds
mattisjoh: calls £6
----- FLOP ----- :7c: :4h: :jc:
mattisjoh: checks
HERO: bets £15
mattisjoh: calls £15
----- TURN ----- :7c: :4h: :jc: :7d:
mattisjoh: checks
HERO: bets £41
mattisjoh: calls £41
----- RIVER ----- :7c: :4h: :jc: :7d: :kc:
mattisjoh: checks
HERO: bets £202.20 and is all-in
mattisjoh: is all-in £100.79
Returned uncalled bets £101.41 to HERO
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows :4c: :4s: (A Full House, Fours full of Sevens)
mattisjoh: shows :jh: :7h: (A Full House, Sevens full of Jacks)
mattisjoh collected £329.58 from Main pot
Going into the rest of it is kind of pointless ; sets getting drawn out on by combo draws and overpairs getting rivered when I'm priced in vs villain with wide ranges.
I'm worried this will affect my ability to grind ; I already took a few days off to clear my head and dropping another 10 buyins in my 1st 2 days back is just too much. The games have been crazy good but it's just not a good idea to play when tilty. I'm lucky that my BR is healthy enough to where I don't need to move down but I might do that just until this shit slows the fuck down.
The worst part is when it fucks with your ability to correctly gauge ppl's ranges. Fuck me.
Hope you're running better man!
Hope you had a piece of Dylan, lol sick?
25% imo !!!
Ya played a bit today, and felt like I was playing great
The I flatted balmore's 4 bet Btn vs SB with AA and my internet disconnected when he overbet shoved a J72 flop 135bb's deep
does this shit ever happen when you're running well? gawd.
what did I miss??Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexos
He took down the 40k guaranteed booya
yah alex told me.. thats sick!Quote:
Originally Posted by Genitruc
what was buyin? how many ppl?
buyin 110 pounds, 400ish players
So I had said I was done posting results but I feel like posting this just to laugh at variance.
This may be the most disappointing month for me since I started playing. I really felt like I turned a corner at the beginning of the month. Since the top of the "spike" in the graph, W$@SD has been 34% :
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9...rwtfck7.th.jpghttp://img101.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
Much of this has been in pounds, so the amounts are about 1.5x what you see on the graph.
I've gotten more aggro as I've gotten to know the player pool at the games I've been playing since moving up and feel like for almost the entire downward spiral I've been playing close to my A game. Just today I made what I think was my 1st total spew in over a month, but tbh I don't mind it since I think villain always had stone cold nuts or air.
I mentioned earlier that it worried me that my hand-reading would be off because of ppl "always" having the nuts. Well, I've been talking through some of my play with a student who I've been working with a whole bunch since early Sep and my handreading is still good. Problem is, it's always something like "OK gotta bet this turn. Hmm bottom card paired on the river. He's donkish enough to call 2 streets with bottom pair but I definitely have to value-bet vs his range. Oh fuck. He shoved. Oh well I'm getting a million to 1 I call... FUCK ME."
It's become like a broken record. Today for example, I played for a couple hours, felt like I played well, checked poker tracker expecting to be about breakeven and discovered that I was down 2k. It just hasn't stopped since the start of this shit about 12 days ago.
fuck variance
really, fuck variance
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
How hard can it be to do something for 4 hours a day?
Throughout my life, when I've gotten really involved in something, I've been kind of maniacal. As in, 6-8 hours a day outside of "normal stuff" (school, jobs, whatever).
I've been getting better at grinding poker over the past few months. In fact, I've come a long ways towards being emotionally stable at the tables, leaving my ego behind, etc. This has lead to an easier time putting in longer hours.
Still, I'd say my normal day of poker rarely lasts longer than 2-3 hours. There is absolutely NO reason why I can't bump this up and improve my stamina so for the next 3 weeks or so, I'm gonna track my progress to see if I can average 4 hours a day, 5 days a week, playing close to my A game.
This may seem a bit ridiculous to some of you who are grinding 40+ hrs a week but, what can I say, baby steps?
Hopefully tonight I'll have a solid update.
Don't discount the fact that you play a lot more tables than a lot of people. I'd say lots of ppl that are putting in so many hours are playing maybe 6-8 tables and you're playing 14 which I'm sure can get to be somewhat stressful at times?
Either way though, good luck I hope you can get the hours in!
ya that s true griffey
After just getting kicked in the nuts over and over again I'm gonna play 1-2 ($, euros and pounds) for a while just to wright the ship.
Just put in a 3.5 hr session that felt pretty easy despite AA being -2.5 buyins overall. I think losing buyin after buyin had me pretty tilted at 2-5 so I'll wait till I can grind a decent profit over a few days at 1-2 or till I see a good game to play 2-5 for a while.
If I can get in another quick session later on tonight, it's mission accomplished for 2day.
Played for 4.5 hours and played well. Tomorrow will be as good I hope.
Played some 5-10 to start off the month with a bang
Game #7901792424: Hold'em NL (£2/£5) - 2008/10/01 - 07:31:52 (UK)
Table "Lastserved" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 1: typemike1 (£723.65 in chips)
Seat 2: AZION87 (£313.73 in chips)
Seat 3: Elleowen (£152.65 in chips)
Seat 4: HERO (£500 in chips)
Seat 5: mymaximus (£500 in chips)
Seat 6: FullFlush (£500 in chips)
Elleowen: posts small blind £2
HERO: posts big blind £5
FullFlush: posts big blind £5
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :qd: :qs:
FullFlush: raises to £15
typemike1: folds
AZION87: folds
Elleowen: folds
HERO: raises to £56
FullFlush: calls £41
----- FLOP ----- :4d: :9h: :7s:
HERO: bets £76
FullFlush: raises to £444 and is all-in
HERO: calls £368 and is all-in
----- TURN ----- :4d: :9h: :7s: :6s:
----- RIVER ----- :4d: :9h: :7s: :6s: :8s:
----- SHOW DOWN -----
FullFlush: shows :js: :th: (A Straight, Jack high)
HERO: shows :qd: :qs: (A Pair of Queens, Nine high)
FullFlush collected £999 from Main pot
*sigh* imo
sooooo puke
Brutal hand.. blah.
Good to know he takes this line though. I guess he's trying to rep a slowplayed overpair, but flatting UTG. Doesn't make much sense though, as I'd expect him to like 4-bet all his good hands if he's 3-bet when he opened UTG.
You playing more 5/10 this month?
in the hand above what made it even fishier was he posted OOP!
Ya I'll be playing 5-10 when the games look good.
GL on your prop bet. Hopefully you guys both hit your targets.
So I played another 4.5k hours today and did well at lower stakes, mainly 1-2$
Also managed to take down the 10k guaranteed (pounds) for about 5k$.
Ship it imo... and FU downswing.
Niiiiiiice.. you bro's are tearin' up the tourney circuit :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Genitruc
How much are the buyins to these things? I should play more tourneys on the side or something.
The 10k gtd which starts at 3pm eastern and is 55 pound buyin. 1st place is like 5k usually. There's a 7k gtd which is 35 pound buyin. The sunday 40k gtd is 110 pound and 1st was 19k (which i luckboxed). There's usually a ton of overlay on the sunday one and the play is obviously mindboggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by griffey24
shhhhhhhhhhhhhh
imo
lol.. I'm pretty sure all you guys gotta do is tell me how long it took you to win these things... and I'll probably be scared off :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Genitruc
5 hrs ftw
btw good start to the month for everyone except alex it seems
go us
i mean, i kn'owi set the bar high and all that, but don't think 2.7k is thaaaaat bad on the first day???? imooQuote:
Originally Posted by Genitruc
i just had a 'bad' september ending...
btw i need some of those Coodle-Doodles gene to own donkaments too!!!:P
Only played for 1.5 hrs but can't complain, wasn't gonna play at all ; tables weren't any good and I felt a little burned after yesterday's excitement
Back with a vengeance 2morrow imo
I hate sessions like these, especially when you're drunk and happy about how things went :
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/6...ionskw5.th.jpg
quality edit alex
So just wrapped up another great session. If I can play as well as I did today on a regular basis I don't see anything stopping me for a good while.
Unfortunately, sets lost me 2k - twice in on flop vs bare overpairs for 300bb pots :( but whatever, there's nothing to be done about that. Important thing is I got in a 3 hr + long session with basically no spewing, quality hand reading and pretty good plays all around.
If you include last night's drunken tirade session till 6 am, I'm well over my 4 hr/day goal for the week, leaving me only 1 day left of 4 hrs of playing to reach 20 hrs in 5 days (big news for a poker slacker like me!).
I've been playing the lower games just to steady myself after that vicious spike downwards and mixing in about 1/3rd 2-5 and 5-10 when the games look good. Hopefully I can keep up my good play.
End of week 1 of my new goal of improving stamina. Things went well. Took Sat off and played a shortish session today.
I think I played steadier and smarter this week than I have in a while. This week I hope to play 4 hrs, 5 times again and maybe put in smallish sessions on "off" days since a big promotion is wrapping up soon and I'm in position to win a decent bit of cash if I grind well.
Here was today's biggest hand :
Villain was running about 30/17 and INSTA-bet river. If he had taken a few seconds and bet a stranger amount (either really big or really small) I think I would've folded, but it just looked too much like a desperate bluff trying to rep 89.
Table "Eightofhearts" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: kidkitty ($472 in chips)
Seat 2: hjalte99 ($480 in chips)
Seat 3: cheater12 ($345 in chips)
Seat 4: Kaiser ($522.15 in chips)
Seat 5: cleanuout ($500 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO ($511.40 in chips)
Kaiser: posts small blind $2
cleanuout: posts big blind $5
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO :ah: :qh:
HERO: raises to $17
kidkitty: folds
hjalte99: calls $17
cheater12: folds
Kaiser: folds
cleanuout: folds
----- FLOP ----- :7h: :6s: :4h:
HERO: bets $32
hjalte99: calls $32
----- TURN ----- :7h: :6s: :4h: :9s:
HERO: bets $91
hjalte99: calls $91
----- RIVER ----- :7h: :6s: :4h: :9s: :9d:
HERO: checks
hjalte99: bets $200
HERO: calls $200
----- SHOW DOWN -----
hjalte99: shows :5d: :ad: (A Pair of Nines, Ace high)
HERO: shows :ah: :qh: (A Pair of Nines, Ace high)
HERO collected $684 from Main pot
Day 1 of week 2 :
Success. Played well, although didn't run great and put in over 4 hrs. Managed to find an unreal 5/10 table really late tonight and unfortunately I'm just too tired to keep playing. But happy with things overall.
Nice.. how did 5/10 go?Quote:
Originally Posted by Genitruc
Mannn.. I need to take more shots at 10/20 and stuff when the games are good. I just feel like I play like such a nitfest when I take a shot.
ya playing like a nitfest is prob why I've typically had zero variance and always seem to profit
I played 100 hands or so and made about half a buyin at 5-10
Geo was playing and - MAN - for a while it really looked like he was trying to empty his BR as fast as humanly possible.
Overall lots of success today
Only downer was that I played pretty badly during a late-night session. I made 2 big calls that I really don't hate (either they had nuts or busted draw and there were a million busted draws and 1 nut hand) but beyond that, just didn't feel like I had that fire.
It's important that I not let the desire to reach "X # of hours" goals get in the way of good self-management.
Just finished another successful day (at 5:30 am...)
Played 4 hrs+ for the 3rd day straight and played awesome. In the afternoon session I lost boat over boat twice and AA into KK 200bb's deep but still managed to grind out a small profit.
Then I crushed the late-night games, included some sick plo ownage for a bunch of buyins.
Things are good.
bottles and models imo
oooooh.. I didn't know you were playing PLO.. which limits?Quote:
Originally Posted by Genitruc
I was playing 200nl PLO a bit trying to learn and stuff... the variance is kinda sickening though. I worry too much about tilt being induced from PLO variance.
when there aren't many nl games running I pop up a couple plo tables
usually 1-2 6 max and 1-2 HU. I'm not very good, but random gamblers playing that game is just the most mind-blowingly +EV thing to experience...
Alex : you were talking about the cruise imo?
These overnight games sound pretty sick ... you and alex are making me ponder not sleeping anymore!
Just wrapping up a grotesque session.
It was the perfect storm really for a gross day : didn't really feel like playing in the 1st place, felt tilted because of some life-stuff, got 2 outered all in on the turn to be chip leader of the afternoon 100$ donkament, then got ai 3 consecutive times at nl500 w QQ in Btn vs blinds and BvB spots, never having the best hand.
Bleh, I wouldn't have played except for the fact that I took yesterday off...
Oh well, can't own things everyday.
wtf just happened
I just played 1.3k hands of 5-10 late at night at awesome tables
My W$@SD was 13% and I dropped 6k
ok 2morrow I'm gonna do 2 things with 3 effects :
-play 4 hrs of cash games below 5-10
-play cash games until I bust from both afternoon donkaments
The 3 effects will be :
-playing like a jedi
-getting 3k hands in at cash
-saying FU to variance. Srsly, right now it's doing it's best to take away everything I've earned by owning the last little while. Fuck it imo.
there is no emotion, there is Peace
there is no ignorance, there is Knowledge
there is no passion, there is Serenity
there is no death, there is the Force.
may the Force be with you, young padawan.
Here's to playing like a Jedi today!! CHEERS! lmao
Seriously gl today
Just played for about 2.5 hrs and had to stop due to tilt
I should've prob made about 3k and instead was down about 500$. The very last hand was gross and just made me shut down my laptop.
I'm right on the verge of breaking through with so many things. The biggest one is managing when I play, how much I play and my emotional state. I feel like that's gotten soooo much better but the past 2 days have really challenged that assumption.
Today at the end I felt so much pent up rage that it scared me. I am nowhere near the emotional jedi that I need to be. I worry that had I played longer I would've started doing shit like open-shoving and 3-bet flop-shove bluffing to any raise.
Meh.