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Originally Posted by Poopadoop
I think though you're exaggerating if you think his real odds are 1/20. Conor caught him a few times, in the first with an uppercut. If that lands better, it's game over.
Thing with Conor is, he's an animal. He's capable of knocking anyone out if he hits them right, and he has absolutely no fear. I doubt there's a single person in the world who, in a disciplined fight, is legit 1/20 fave to beat McGregor.
Bruce Lee vs McGregor... I'll give Bruce a legit 1/100.
And obviously Chuck Norris is 1/infinity.
Otherwise... the pool is thin.
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
I don't know about 1/20, I just pulled it out of my ass really. But I'm pretty sure 1/5 is being generous.
And McG has to do more than 'almost' hit him hard enough. There's a lot of guys who 'almost' hit Floyd and 'almost' beat him 'if only'.
I would take whoever the current same-weight boxing champ is on that one. Save a fiver for me and I'll pay you a hundred if it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
True.Quote:
And McG has to do more than 'almost' hit him hard enough. There's a lot of guys who 'almost' hit Floyd and 'almost' beat him 'if only'.
I said both in my original post you egit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
also I reckon if I trained to be a boxer for the next 5 years I'd beat Mayweather at the level he was in this fight. Odds on this ong?
I'd have like 20cm in height and like 75+lbs on him. Easy win for me imo.
edit - I'd lose in a UFC fight with Mcgregor with the same stipulations though.
Show me some youtube footage of you fighting so I can determine how much of an animal you are...
Hey. Chuckles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
You were wrong in your original post, got it pointed out to you, and still tried to argue. Give it up.
I'd bet 100/1 you wouldn't land a single punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
3+3=9Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
you're a faggot
See, some of a post can be wrong whilst the rest is still perfectly correct.
I'm a pussy. When does weight & height become the main factor though? I imagine the best boxer ever at 150lb wouldn't touch most professional boxers at 180lbs. So would good amatuer boxers weighing 200lbs beat him?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I mean watch the fight. McGregor has easily 10 lbs on Mayweather, orangutan arms, and never landed a solid punch. He tried to jab and outpoint him which would be a reasonable strategy if you were him, so Mayweather had to get inside his reach and fight in a way he never does.
McG had no defense, held his hands too far apart and too low. He kept getting hit with lead rights - I mean that's embarrassing if you're fighting someone in their 20s but Mayweather is 40 ffs and obv. past his prime.
You can make an argument that McG won the first three rounds but only because Mayweather didn't throw enough. And McG kept hitting him behind the head which goes to show he couldn't control his MMA genes.
After round 4, there was nothing McG could do but try not to get knocked out. Mayweather did what he had to win, and it worked for him. Nothing in the rules said he had to look good doing it.
So when I point out 3+3=9 is wrong, you're going to come back with some arguments about the rest of your post? 'Cause that's what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
The weight class is one thing, but if you think you can go in against any top pro having just started training in your 20s for five years and have a chance you're an idiot. A featherweight would probably knock you out in one round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
5 years is a long time & I highly doubt it. I wouldn't even need to learn to box I'd just get in great shape and learn to punch. The physical advantages would be too great. Why don't you make some attempt at quantifying what you think is the limit then because what I'm saying is definitely true as a principle even if you disagree with the extent to which I'm stating it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Which 6 foot 4+, 230lb+ boxers lose to Mayweather in his shape in his last fight?
Ya, you'd learn to punch half as well as McGregor. You'd fight some guy who knew how not to get hit and could exploit your weaknesses, and you'd get rocked so many times in the first minute your legs would be like jelly, and in the next 30s it would be 'timbeeerrrrr'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
It depends on how you define 'boxer'. If you mean just some guy off the street who started training at a late age and has no special talent, I'd say all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
Mcgregor is what like 5 foot 8, 155lb & didn't have 5 years boxing training. You know who'd beat Mcgregor with power literally every 200+lb fighter in the UFC. What exactly makes you think that these people have some insurmountable power, they are tiny.
You're still not answering my question either.
If your question is about how much weight makes a difference, then ya obv. it's an advantage to be bigger if you can convert that into power. I don't know the exact formula for how much it compensates for lack of skill, but there's plenty of examples of top heavyweights beating other top heavyweights 10% or more heavier than them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
If you're saying being huge compared to your opponent is enough to win a fight as long as you can run lots of laps, hit a heavy bag and stop eating ice cream for a few years, I say you're probably wrong. There's a lot more innate talent and a lot more skill involved in boxing than you seem to think.
Weight after a point isn't helpful. Natural size is important. Very few people are benefiting from being above a weight like 280lb but if my natural weight is 215 then that is huge over someone who is naturally 150. So heavyweight is where this is least important or beneficial & in terms of natural weight it is still a benefit to be bigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
There is also the fact that 5 years is a really long time, if you're training seriously for 5 years at anything you're going to be fairly good at it by the end. I'm also just 25 so would be in my prime as a boxer at 30 ;)
If your natural weight is 215 you'd have about a 40% weight advantage over 150. But a) you still have to be quick enough to hit him, which you probably wouldn't; and b) his punches would still hurt you when he hit you, which most of the time he probably would. I wouldn't like your chances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
It sounds like a long time but if you're 25 now and never threw a punch before today the chance you could be trained to coordinate your muscles to move in the optimal way (assuming you have much innate talent at all, which most of us don't) from today onwards is slim to none. You would certainly reach your own plateau of skill in that time but it'd be waaay below someone who started younger and had a boatload of talent to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
My more serious slightly tongue in cheek thing I contemplate actually doing is starting to play cricket again as I was a half decent bowler but proper hitting the gym and steroids so I get up to bowling around 90mph & making club cricketers shit themselves.
I stopped reading. Who won the argument?
Savy is considering a life of steroid use to prove his idle boasting.
At least he's passionate about something.
Feel that burning fire!Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
I win every argument 'cause if I'm losing it I just start arguing about something else entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
It isn't boasting, I don't think I'm special in any regard to what I said bar being tall. Steroids are a no for the boxing, or at least I'd take what they all take and get away with.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
Do you think I'm wrong in what I said about the boxing?
If Savy had an aptitude for athletics and there were no glaring holes in his ability to learn boxing by training enough, if we assume 5 years of honest to God training, he would wreck Floyd 6/10 imo
In sport, size doesn't scale linearly. A 50 pound advantage isn't 5x as good as a 10 pound advantage; it's far more than that, especially when in low/medium weight classes. If Savy has the build of 6'3 person (Floyd is closer to 5'6), he would have the bone and muscle structure of head/neck to take shots nobody in Floyd's division can. The extreme height difference means Floyd's shots barely even land and when they do they have such little power. The only reason I was interested in Conor vs. Floyd was that Conor had the correct kind of size to give Floyd trouble. And he did, more than any other boxer did. Multiply that size advantage by several and you can even cut the skill down quite a bit and Floyd gets wrecked.
Five years is more than enough to get to peak physical condition. It is more than enough to get to 80% of your fullest capacity in any sport.
Though some of the time Savy would wreck Floyd, some of the time he would lose instead. Things like jitters or just simply not being able to keep range because he gassed because his style is not picture perfect for boxing (that's what happened to Conor).
I am in the 1 percentile of genetic athletic skill when it comes to the more brutish sports (think: wrestling, not tennis) and if I fought Floyd I would have 40 pounds on him at peak physical condition. Yet I would lose to him every time even with 5 years of perfect training. The reason is because I'm only an inch or two taller than him and his reach is probably still longer than mine.
But, make me 6'3 and we got some Semmy Schilt shit on our hands where I can just jab and muscle my way to victory. Once athletic ability dips to, I dunno, below 75 percentile, that Semmy Schilt begins turning into Stefan Struve, who is more awkwardly bad than he could be. However, as weights and heights get into normal human range, the Struve disadvantage becomes less so. This is because of things like Struve still fights guys who are naturally as "big" as he is even though they are a bit shorter. Human biology doesn't scale that well on the tails of height. But if we're inside normal range, like 5'6 vs. 6'3, it's a different game.
dear god i lold
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I love the idea that average guy could just train real hard and beat some top pro who's a lot smaller than him, but it's not realistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Mike Tyson who was 5' 9" on his tiptoes fought top guys 6' 6" and nearly decapitated them. So 5' 6" vs. 6' 4" doesn't seem like much difference. Granted, 65 pounds is a lot to give up but if Savy doesn't have the coordination to use those pounds it won't do him much good. You can't just take anyone and train them hard enough and eventually they'll be a top pro.
Also, you're forgetting Savy would have to actually hit Floyd with something besides a light jab to win. If McGregor a natural athlete and fighter wasn't quick enough to do it, what makes you think big ole Savy would be?
And when was Mayweather in trouble? He never took a solid punch more than once or twice the whole fight, and calling those shots 'solid' is being generous - more like glancing blows. I saw one punch that knocked his head back but he wasn't shook up at all. McGregor hit Mayweather on the back of the head more times than on the front lol.
Watch the fight again. Mayweather gave McGregor no respect after the first three rounds 'cause he knew he couldn't hurt him. He just walked right through his 'guard' and started hitting him with good shots. By the ninth it was over.
Savy would certainly have to have an aptitude for it.
With Tyson, he didn't have to keep his weight down. For the Savy hypothetical, we're assuming Floyd keeps his weight down. If Floyd is allowed to bulk up and come in at whatever weight he wants, it changes everything. It would create the same sort of advantages Tyson had over bigger opponents, where he is the one who muscles them around.
Thanks wuf I knew I was right in thinking I could take the best pound for pound boxer ever.
Mayweather & Tyson aren't comparable because Tyson is naturally a monster I don't think I'd ever touch someone like Tyson because I lost massively in every respect bar height. Someone brings in what I was saying about natural weight.
That's assuming you're not a pussy. You might be a pussy.
I'm bad at athletic things, so I don't follow them. I honestly couldn't answer this at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
While wuf makes excellent points, poopy does, too. There certainly seems to be something more than physical training going on at the tippy top levels of physical prowess.
Frankly, I don't know enough about physiology to talk sensibly about that, either.
Boxing is going to be my new go to when people say women should compete with men. Like Mayweather competes with the men sized men in boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I would also never actually box unless I was getting a lot for it. Why would I let anyone punch me in the head that's literally retarded. It's like people who spar for fun, morons.
The co-ordination point is being over used. If there is nothing wrong with you physically then you can learn to punch and hard. Why wouldn't you be able to? I'm not saying you could punch with the elite or anything but still very fucking hard. Mcgregor is once again like 160lb soaking wet, the force just isn't the same as from a big guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
I would never be a top pro, that's important to realise as it isn't my point. The people who would fight me at the same weight level would ruin me. My point is more a big guy in shape with a decent grasp on boxing would beat Mayweather (especially the version from his last fight).
5 years serious training is a lot.
I have heard there is data on the top ranked women tennis players in the world getting creamed by 100 ranked high school men. Or something.
The idea that men and women are in the same ballpark physically is mind-numbing.
Ye so it's retarded so imply they should compete in the same ballpark.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I've said a lot that the best international womens football teams (soccer) would lose to the better under 14 boys sides. People thought I was an idiot.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...U-15-boys.html
Happens all the time apparently.
With regards to tennis I've heard that is true but for fairly bog standard college men players beating the best comfortably. Soon as the physical traits kick in for men in tennis they win.
There is definitely a tv show in taking good physical male specimens that have never played a certain sport & aren't exactly in great shape to begin with and seeing how long it takes them to beat top class women professionals or women sized men like Mayweather.
But muh Rousey can beat him
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She's going to end up in the WWE, I can't wait. She's also pretty hot, didn't realise untill I saw her in non-I'mgoingtokillyou fashion.
She'd take floyd in a fight agree?
That's the good stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
Honestly I don't know. Any dude on the UFC 135 roster sons Floyd like a redheaded stepchild in MMA or a street fight, but I just don't know how much weaker/slower Peak Woman is to Peak Man. It flat out could be enough that even if she kicks Floyd's legs and tries to throw him, he could just muscle her and win on raw brutality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
Also if you think Rousey is hot, Gina Carano is a fucking babe. Not sure if there are still babes fighting MMA. Maybe Joanna Champion.
I mean she's like a 7 but people always seem hotter when you don't realise they're pretty hot to begin with. Yeah Gina is really hot just a shame she has man jaw.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I'm not sure I could go out with someone who could obviously kick my ass though. Especially when if they did they'd get away with it & I'd get laughed at.
It's a bit of a silly question because the things that matter about fighting are things we have no idea if he can do or not. Some boxing stuff obviously helps but it's pretty minor. Boxer vs someone who can kick never gets near them, if the boxer gets taken to the mat they auto lose and that happens a lot because they can't stop it well.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
It's also never ever happening. No name big enough in boxing to make it a big draw agrees to the fight. I'm sure Rousey would be game if the money was right.
Example of her man jaw?
Given my tastes, Gina is like 9.5 at worst.
It's kind of a joke like the whole elbows too pointy thing because she's clearly gorgeous just her jaw is a bit manly & it looks like her nose has been broke a few times. It's finding the flaws in people about 50x better looking than yourself (read myself).Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
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I never said you couldn't. In fact, I'm sure you can punch hard now. The point is you have to be able to hit someone who's made a career out of not getting hit. You think Floyd is just going to stand there with his chin out and let you hit him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
The version from his last fight never got hit either, at least not in any serious way. How is being bigger going to make hitting him easier?Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
Of course it is. You'd probably be a competent boxer. My money would still be on Mayweather though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
There's a lot more subtly to boxing than most people realise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diYdVlb2j8w
The full fight in normal speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJUzl0aFHZw
Jeez you're so last decade. Get with the times. Now we should be arguing that disabled trans people should be able to compete with men in the boxing ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
And I for one would pay top dollar for such entertainment.
No they should get their own division but get paid the same as the men with less & shorter rounds and none of the money making draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
No they should just fight based on their gender at birth, and if they're unhappy with their gender, wear a fucking dress or whatever and stop expecting people to think you're normal.
Disabled boxing... that could actually be a thing. Like wheelchair tennis. Why shouldn't wheelchair people be able to box? In fact it might already be a thing.
Over to youtube...
OH MY GOD HOW HAVE I NOT FOUND THIS YET?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZbL32pPado
I'm such a bad person, I find this fucking hilarious.
I lol'ed watching this.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Also, they both need to improve their footwork. A lot.
Yeah the footwork joke is viral in the chat. Give yourself a pat on the back for originality.
Did anyone chat about which one is going to take on Mayweather?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
There's a fight I might pay to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
You'd could bet on the guy in the wheelchair getting 10 billion to 1. Mayweather has a heart attack in the ring you're a billionaire!
Also, guy in the wheelchair could also kick Savy's ass. Just sayin'.
I agree. Those guys are physical freaks, ridiculous arm strength.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
I find your phrase insensetive. This cripple ain't kicking nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
God I feel like a cunt for typing that. Even more so than I did when i was laughing at them punching shit into each other.
what's the shorthand for when you sort of laugh but it comes out more like a mouth fart?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Nah, you'd just have to start today by buying a wheelchair and training. In five years you could be world champ of what Ong is calling them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
Don't you have the power to ban yourself for such language? We wouldn't mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
You try too hard to be dismissive, you're not very good at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Aw thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
I only ban spammers. I would ban myself if I tried to sell you something without the explicit approval of gmml.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
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Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Argh... The paradox of this is too pedantic to delve into.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Suffice it to say that FTR mods have effectively unlimited freedom in what we choose to post. We were "vetted" as representing the FTR brand before we were invited to be a mod. The policy is that we set the tone as we see fit. We can guide this site however we deem best.
There is no mechanism or protocol for a mod to be banned (or even de-modded). If someone did ban a mod, it'd be grounds for banning them. But... that's stupid, and if ong did ban himself, I'm sure the mod's forum would be lolling all the way home... so ... yeah.
I see. Oh wait, there's more..Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
Hmm MMM, how deep is the paradox of saying something is too much of a paradox to delve into, and then immediately delving into it in detail?Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
I don't think it had anything to do with posting quality. Otherwise, I guess gmml must've read the 5 quality posts I've made out of 15k, while looking at my join date, and thought "this guy seems ok".Quote:
We were "vetted" as representing the FTR brand before we were invited to be a mod
Nah I think I got modded simply because I'm online a shit ton and people don't seem to hate me anymore.
i guess when i say ong is a retard it's ftr approved now.
I appreciate your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
I was trying to give a brief summary and not a detailed delve, but... I could have done better.
Your first point is mostly right. Except for the stuff about gmml, I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Your 2nd reason is probably much closer to the mark than I at first gave it credit.
IDK if I made the argument, but I do remember wondering if you (ong) weren't a bit too bombastic to be given authority to delete and edit posts, but even if I did think or argue that, I was wrong to worry about it.
Now? You're a staple of the FTR vibe, and have been since before I showed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
She call me Mr Bombastic... did you guys have that god awful song in the 90's? Why did you have to use that word? Now it's stuck in my head.Quote:
IDK if I made the argument, but I do remember wondering if you (ong) weren't a bit too bombastic to be given authority to delete and edit posts, but even if I did think or argue that, I was wrong to worry about it.
Fuck you mojo, and fuck you Shaggy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K5Dm-o_MEs
click play, I dare you.
Haha. Suck it!
She touch me on me back. She say I'm Mr. Rooooooooooomantic.
You weren't wrong to worry about it, it's a legitimate concern when assigning people mod status.Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo
If you thought I *would* abuse the position, well then you were wrong. And I'd hope you'd be glad of it, too.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
It's all history anyway. You're all good in my book.
In other news. The new school year has started, and classes are back in swing. The construction that has been ongoing all summer is not quite finished and I'm suddenly getting a ton of extra little responsibilities to deal with. So far, they're all short projects which are ended quickly, but I barely have time to sit.
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Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
I hate when I get asked to do some carpentry while I'm getting a lecture ready.
Haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
It's more like, the head of staff (my boss is faculty, but I'm staff, so argh), knows I am a get-it-done kind of guy and will constantly delegate things to me. It's stuff like:
Tell the facilities people where to hang these clocks when they come to hang the clocks.
Figure out where to hang the homework return boxes, 'cause they aren't going in our brand new hallway anymore.
Tell the teaching center that they gave us a bunch of crap erasers, and we already had good erasers, and can we please have our good erasers back from wherever they disappeared?
Also, I work directly with 5 professors and indirectly with about a dozen more. They're all getting more comfortable with my "Yes, I can do that" attitude (which I want them to be), but it means that I have more to do and more to setup. It's the first week of class and they have different little quirks for what they expect to be setup just so in their classroom and none of that takes more than a few seconds, but I have to remember what each one wants.
Not to mention every little hardware or equipment failure which happens near me is usually mine to fix, which can get annoying when people just assume I can fix anything, but also flattering, so... meh.
It's just hectic. I'm not complaining. I love what I do. It's fast paced, but constantly changing and usually fun.
I work with some pretty inspiring people, both the faculty and the students.
being the go-to guy to solve hands-on problems is a great thing.
So now I'm being a teacher one of the big things is controlling your online presence. You obviously don't want stuff about you to be easily accessible. That to me raises two questions.
1 - Do I really say anything I don't think is defendale (correct word?) online? (probably yes if you take things out of context)
2 - Is it that easy to find who I am online? I think it should be easy but actually compared to the average person even though I post more on public forums I'm pretty hard to pin point. Once again even though I don't exactly hold back on information about me.
[QUOTE=Savy;2279769]So now I'm being a teacher one of the big things is controlling your online presence. You obviously don't want stuff about you to be easily accessible. That to me raises two questions.
1 - Do I really say anything I don't think is defendale (correct word?) online? (probably yes if you take things out of context)/QUOTE]
<<< I think as long as you don't say anything that sounds pervy or Nazi or racist or w/e you can say pretty much whatever you want.
It's irrelevant if you don't say anything mental. Easy game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
1 - Just be aware of it from this point moving forward. If anyone challenges you on something you don't currently believe, just say something to the gist of, "I was young and foolish, then. I'm old and foolish, now." and tell the person what your current belief is. Or let them know that your love of sarcasm knows no bounds, and your online presence may reflect as much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
Besides, I've never heard you say anything that was indicative of any deep-seated hatred for any particular group of humans. You do seem to hate all humans, but that's totally legal. :p
2 - I don't know. Some people are really good at that stuff. No one's ever linked my online presence to me in person w/o me telling them... to my knowledge, that is.
Yo MMM you live in Missouri right? I'm thinking of potentially moving thereabouts. I have some family in St. Louis and in the general hours-drive radius, and I want to get away from the nightmare cost-of-living and traffic that is the Seattle area. The 9 month long cloud cover is a real downer too.
What do you think the best and worst things about Missouri are? What do you think some small things that are cool or not cool are?
City life is city life; country life is country life... much the same as Washington state.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Seattle is kinda its own thing as far as American cities go. The high number of people who move to Seattle and leave a decade later means it has a lower average age populace. Seattle has a thriving gay community, like other cities on the west coast. The Pacific Northwest sensibility is also a rather different vibe than I've encountered elsewhere. It's just more hipster up there. Also, the public transit system in Seattle is top notch. The microbrews up there are phenomenal, too.
So, ya know... everywhere is going to be different than that.
We got real thunderstorms, here. They're pretty great. Plenty of blue skies in all seasons.
The seasonal temperature swings are far more than Seattle gets. E.g. when, in the winter and it's cold out, we say, "It's freezing out there," we're being literal. Also, sometimes it's over 100 F in the summer. If you're in St Louis, the summers are always humid. 2 major rivers meet here, after all. (My Hawiaan gal says the weather is the worst thing, here. lol.)
Missouri's pretty firmly bible-belt territory.
Also, mostly full of republicans except for St Louis and Kansas City. If you have any interest in getting into politics, St Louis is a great place to be. There's plenty of voices on all sides and any vote can go any direction, it seems. The city is pretty divided between red and blue, so getting involved is more meaningful than elsewhere.
We get regularly mugged by invisible guvmint tax ninjas who steal our monies and use it to make the Zoo, Science Center, Art Museum, Missouri History Museum and one of the nation's largest parks free to the public... even for interlopers who don't pay the damn tax! All the while, we got some of the worst roads in the country. Oh woe!
St Louis has the most iconic skyline of any city. Everyone recognizes the St Louis Arch.
St Louis Municipal water is top knotch... if your building's plumbing isn't decades old, your water will be, too.
St Louis public transit is tedious and often smelly. I use it daily.
There's always work in the city if you want entry-level.
It can be tough if you are looking for a skilled position. There's a lot of competition, but also a lot of jobs.
I lol'd. Thanks for the write-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
It's interesting that you say plenty of entry level but not skilled work. I usually hear it the other way around. Doesn't mean it's true, but it's usually what I hear.
According to my uncle, the traffic in St. Louis is a sundae with cherry on top compared to the Seattle region. I'd guess that the traffic difference may be why there is focus on mass transit here and why there isn't in St. Louis.
I had this concern years ago. I forget if it was Xianti on his way out or GMML right when he started, but an admin was kind enough to scrub some posts that made it easy to link real life me to this account. Bottom line though, if someone had it out for me, if they were intent on digging up dirt, they certainly could link me to this account-- or worse, my 2p2 account that posted way too much in BBV4LYF, which, back in the day, was hard to tell apart from 4chan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
While we're on the subject.. remember when the craze of jailbait threads swept message boards? Can you fucking imagine that happening now? It was the god damned wild west back then. There were no shame mobs. Of course it's for the better that borderline child porn isn't being openly passed around, but it's crazy how much the online-community community's zeitgeist has shifted.
Maybe I have a wrong view of it, due to being unemployed for 4 years while actively searching for a career using my degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I've never gone unemployed for more than a week when my standard was to accept any offer from any job I applied to. That's what motivates me to say entry level is super easy to get, but skilled labor has competition.
To be clear, I never said there weren't skilled jobs, just that there's also a lot of skilled workers.
Also, since you're not going to be working in engineering or physics, take all of this with a grain of salt. I'm not really talking about your employment sector, but my own.
I didn't own a vehicle during my stay in Seattle, so I can't really speak to the relative traffic.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
St Louis traffic isn't bad unless your only experience of it is a twice daily rush hour commute.
Still, the road quality is poor.
I did some searching for stuff the other day along with also looking for people I know as a reference and I don't come up like any of them do, mostly as I don't have social media accounts with places. I also tried to find some really old accounts I used to have which may or may not exist anymore and I found one and although I come across as an idiot compared to the average 13 year old its nothing. Tbh if stupid shit I posted on the internet that is incredibly hard to find compared to most people is that much of an issue then ill put some effort into showing that 95% of the workforce needs letting go and those other 5 need better internet access.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
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Originally Posted by Savy
One of the postdocs where I work got caught looking at porn (not just nsfw stuff, but actual hard core porn) on his work computer. Apparently, Big Brother IT at our place monitor what sites you're looking at.
Also, who looks at porn at work? Eww.
He get fired for it? Tbh I have no sympathy for people who use anything work related for "bad" things that are not work related as it isn't yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
A friend of mine was showing a college of his something on his phone and the bit that shows on your screen to say what you're listening to came up "Barely Legal" and he got himself into a fuss trying to explain that it wasn't porn it's a strokes song :lol:
He was not very politely asked to stop. Good MRI technicians are hard to find apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
What makes the shame mob so scary is that they're all indirect hypocrites, in that they have different, but just as "shameful" search histories. Not enough people will stand up for you and what's reasonable, and many will join in on shaming due to the fear that not doing so will elicit suspicion from the mob, which will lead to digging, which will lead to them getting their turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
Look at the Google memo guy-- if you look into it, it is really hard to read his firing as anything but Google acquiescing to the demands of an irrational mob.