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Your first sentence makes me lol. #hipsteringsohardQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
haha me a hipster? You have no idea how funny that is.
I'm curious bigred... I would have said the same thing 15 years ago before "hipster" was a term... what would you have called me back then?
Who here likes coffee?
*everyone but ong - "me me me i like coffee"
*ong - "i like tea, fuck coffee"
*bigred - "HIPSTER ALERT"
PoserQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
The funny thing is, I bet bigred is much more trendy than I am. I still wear skateboarder hoodies from 20 years ago.
I think we used the word "trendy" until "hipster" came along; "poser" was a word we'd call vain people who think they look fucking amazing in photographs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Hipster has been a term since at least the 90's.
Back then, poser was used by skaters and punks to describe other teens who seemed to be pretending at their social status.
Disclaimer: in my high school
I only started hearing the word "hipster" in the last ten years or so.
This definition could *almost" catch me... I was hanging around with the skaters, wearing skater hoodies and combats, but I wasn't a skater. I mean I tried, but I wasn't very good, and couldn't really be bothered. So I just went to the parties.Quote:
Back then, poser was used by skaters and punks to describe other teens who seemed to be pretending at their social status.
I don't think I was "posing". I never pretended to be a skater. I "pretended" to be a stoner, and it didn't take much pretending. Noone ever accused me of trying to be something I'm not. That's because I never tried to be anything lol.
Maybe we have different understandings of "hipster" then. I tend to think of them as people dressing up as things they aren't.
Like when I see teenagers today wearing t shirts with 8-bit Nintendo controllers. There's no way those kids are playing video games that became obsolete fifteen years before they were born. They just think 'retro is cool'.
"Poser" seems like it should still be apt.
What's wrong with thinking something is cool?Quote:
Like when I see teenagers today wearing t shirts with 8-bit Nintendo controllers. There's no way those kids are playing video games that became obsolete fifteen years before they were born. They just think 'retro is cool'.
Nothing. But if you just think something is cool, because other people think it's cool, having never experienced that particular something yourself, then you're a poser.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Right, in which case we're in agreement to what "poser" means.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
I think in the case of retro games, well there's a certain artistic value to the images. It's ok to think it looks cool. That's simply appreciating art, in my book. But yeah, if it's because you see others wearing it, and you think "they look cool wearing that retro shirt, I want to look cool too" then we have ourselves a poser.
A good deal of them are posers I'm sure, but don't forget that growing up with the internet makes it way easier for kids to explore things outside of their generation. There's been a couple of times where I've surprised people a generation older than me by liking more obscure (by which I mean not something obvious like Nirvana) music that they grew up with. They didn't grow up with instant access to all eras of music, whereas I would stay up night after night online finding new stuff from whatever decade. So it's possible that some of these kids sincerely love games, read about old great retro games, and emulated them, which isn't hard to do at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
There is also the fact that the boom of indie games which these kids do play was massively influenced by that exact time. Lots of these games share that aesthetic, make huge nods to the original games etc.
I like coffee. I also like teaQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Reminds me of a Richard Pryor bit about weed.
He pantomimes: Someone hits a joint and stifles a cough, then fails to stifle a cough, then coughs a bit and passes it to Richard.
Richard does the same routine, but he's supposedly got the joint this time and says, from the other guy's perspective, something like, "You may look cool, but you ain't even hit it."
I'm probably butchering that bit.
Right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
So when did you join ISIS?
Well you're just one of these cunts that thinks everything is cool, in a pathetic attempt to be liked. I bet you pretend to like Coldplay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
"probably"Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
This sounds kinda poser-ish actually. Either you lived it, or you didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
This sounds kinda cuntish, actually. Either you like it, or you don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
lol, really?Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Yeah. I don't think you can connect with the music of Country Joe McDonald unless you lived through Vietnam. You can't appreciate "white rabbit" unless you've done LSD at least a few times. And you can't walk around with 8-bit NES t-shirts when you've never lived in an era where you had to blow into cartridges to make them work.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Posers
How would you know? Are you a hypocrite?Quote:
Originally Posted by banana
I probably listen to the Stooges the most.
Obviously I'm a poser, because I haven't even seen them, let alone been alive when they were at their peak.
there's definitely something to be said for the unique connection with music through its sociopolitical context, but that doesn't mean you're a poser for enjoying it on your own terms outside of that time. it doesn't completely lose its essence or effect just because someone found it decades later. by your logic no living person should listen to classical music ever again, lest they be ~posers~ lol, give me a break. music is eternal.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
i do agree with the idea that certain lived experiences deepen the connection to certain art, like dropping acid to better understand psychedelic rock. calling people posers for not doing that though is just snobby.
to further clarify, listening to punk doesn't make you a poser. calling yourself a punk while having zero experience of that culture does. simply enjoying shit doesn't make you a poser.
When I hear the song "1970" and he starts screaming "I FEEL ALRIIIIGHT" over and over again, I shouldn't think to myself "fuck me this is awesome", because that's the poser thing to think. I should think "this is good music, however it's older than I am and I must force myself to not like it too much because otherwise there might be some twat on the internet who thinks I'm a poser". That's the proper thing to think.
I could say the same about a track by Future Sound of London, called Dead Skin Cells... it was the tune I remember hearing when I took DMT... noone has heard that tune like I have, so anyone who merely gets stoned to it and appreciates it is a poser, by banana's logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubrey
Seems somewhat arrogant to say that.
Lol. Well, you can't really appreciate Beethoven unless you were alive back then, wearing a powdered wig, riding your horse and carriage to the symphony and listening by candlelight. Also you had to be deaf like LvB and not actually hearing the music but just feeling the vibrations.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Anyone who claims to enjoy it otherwise is just a poser. Fucking posers.
I was feeling the vibrations of classical music before it was cool.
I wonder if Beethoven had a subwoofer hooked up to his piano?
ya but did you gouge your eardrums out so as to get the full experience or were you just a poser?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I don't see how doing LSD a few times would make me a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
ExactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
It kinda does.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Yes it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
RightQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Really? How many Elvis songs were in the top 40 this week?Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Since when are facts snobby?Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
And how many "punks" only connection to that culture is punk music? Alot. I rest my case.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
We're not talking about simply enjoying shit. I have no problem if teenagers wanna play Metroid. But if you weren't playing it in a time where it was "shocking" to find out that Samus was a girl, then you have no business walking around in 2017 with a fucking NES t-shirtQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
You said that me exploring music online was poser-y, which is literally "simply enjoying shit," so that's what I was responding to. And in this post you again said "it kinda does" to me saying that enjoying music on your own terms doesn't make you a poser. So yes, that is what we're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
The top 40 is not a barometer for the lasting effect of great music -- people are still enjoying Elvis's music to this day, along with pretty much every other great artist there ever was.
I don't agree about the shirt thing but w/e.
Fine, but there is no need to take it a step further, and go around 'impressing' older people with your out-of-generation music knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Poser.
FalseQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
We were talking about music and what we both liked -- should I have withheld all my tastes that predate my adolescence? I'm sorry, I should enjoy old music but never utter a word about it to anyone, because talking about music I love that's older than me makes me a poser? That makes no sense, lol. I grew up on classic rock, classical, and jazz because of my father, I'm not going to keep my mouth shut about it bc some curmudgeon thinks I should know my place. I like talking about music I enjoy, how is that a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
People of all ages still listen to classic rock and jazz and funk and soul and all that shit.
Btw you're the one projecting this idea that i was trying to impress anyone. Why did you even put it in quotes?
Well everyone else's bad day aside, I rediscovered Doctor Horrible's Sing-a-long Blog and I want you to rediscover it all over again too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of9kHpCv1ts
If it's your goal to avoid Posing....then yesQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Then you're an oblivious poser. One of the worst varieties of poser there is.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Bandwagon PoserQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Rebel poserQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
It's not really a problem. It's poser-ish. Own it.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Fixed your postQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
eh, you know what, you're totally right. thanks for the heads up <3
Are you in favour of criminalisation of drugs, in particular powerful psychadelics such as LSD?Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
Do you think that you shold be arrested for your past crimes?
You're the best
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
No. It's called "statute of limitations". They had 3 months to bust me, now I'm untouchable.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
I mean if you took acid once, and thought "holy shit that's powerful, people shouldn't do that", then I won't accuse you of being a hypocrite. But here you are, not only admitting that you took it more than once, you're also glorifying it by saying that you can only appreciate certain music under its influence. Yet you sit there and say that those who take it should be deemed criminals.
It's also amusing that you're using law as it's written to dismiss the idea that you are responsible for your actions of the past. Why then do you think you can tell other nations how much their "fair share" is when it's not clearly stated in law how much they should contribute? Obligation? You have an obligation to hand yourself in to the police, admit your crime, and make a small donation to a drug charity.
That is exactly what I thought. But then I also thought "but I'm not normal people, I can handle doing it a few more times"Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Because I'm special, duhQuote:
But here you are, not only admitting that you took it more than once,
Just one song, sheeshQuote:
you're also glorifying it by saying that you can only appreciate certain music under its influence.
Deeming someone a criminal is not a subjective question. People who commit crimes, are criminals.Quote:
Yet you sit there and say that those who take it should be deemed criminals.
I'm not denying responsibility, I'm just rejecting punishment. There's a difference.Quote:
It's also amusing that you're using law as it's written to dismiss the idea that you are responsible for your actions of the past
Cause we hold all the cards and we can.Quote:
Why then do you think you can tell other nations how much their "fair share" is
Where did that word come from?Quote:
Obligation?
Maybe during the first three months after I did it, you could say that. However, the statue of limitations is gone. That means the cops don't care. Turning myself in would be wasting police time. Which would be a worse crime than the acid I did 18 years ago.Quote:
You have an obligation to hand yourself in to the police, admit your crime,
You mean flush money down the toilet? No thanksQuote:
and make a small donation to a drug charity
Bite bite bite.
At the very least banana the arch criminal should place himself under house arrest with no internet access for a few months to atone for his past crime. As much as we'd miss him, it's only fair.
Agreed, it's only fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
What's also fair, is that my sentence be adjusted for the change in internet speeds. When I committed the crime, 28k modems were all the rage. So a few months off under those conditions is the 2017 equivalent of the time it will take me to go take a leak and come back.
See you soon.
There....I feel rehabilitated
more like court jester, the breakdown of poser categories was actually pretty funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
You didn't seem to be laughing at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
You're probably one of those people who heard New Kids on the Block and thought "who are these fairies with pussy voices?". But then when everyone else started thinking they were cool, you did too.
backpedal poser
how did you know :(
Does this count?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_8sB_aaHnU
'Cause I love that song
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Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
I usually would reply in jest, but in todays age of constant surveillance, spying, etc and whatnot, I think I am compelled to reply earnestly.
I have not joined and never will join up with loons
Forgive banana, he's binaryQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
Smart thinking Jack, you don't want to get the guy in your avatar arrested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
Oh, and mostly a troll
He's on a one-way trip to Mars. 'Cause he doesn't give a fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P07OCiOo7U
Is that not exactly what you would say if you were in ISIS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
Most of them get caught when they slip a few allah akbars in there. Jack is too wise for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
All good, sometimes hyper defensive yutes need a little bit of trollingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
This is making me cry. It's rather obvious how much I hate Coldplay, this fucking song in particular, but I love BVSC. This is like watching Debbie Harry fuck a horse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
I lolled through the whole post.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
If that wasn't meant to be comedic gold, he stumbled onto something brilliant.
Otherwise, credit where it's due.
:goldstar:
LOL priceless Coldplay song
:/Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
If I were you, I'd double-check the timing on your statute of limitations fact.
I've never heard of anything as short as months, but it varies widely from state to state and from crime to crime.
I mean.. clearly you are special and are above this law.
There's probably an "except for banana" amendment in your state's constitution, even.
So maybe not knowing the law is OK for you.
Still... I doubt your 3 month value as applies to other people kinda nearish to you.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CR9u-rdUkAA2REo.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal...mitations.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
New Hampshire/ Misdemeanor, 3 months. I might be reading that wrong, it may be a year, but in any event I'm way past it. But, this does prove there is such a thing as a 3 month statute of limitations. Thanks, I always enjoy an opportunity to be right.
You're just figuring this out?Quote:
I mean.. clearly you are special and are above this law.
I made them refer to me as "Mr. Stand"Quote:
There's probably an "except for banana" amendment in your state's constitution, even
Huh? I knew acid was illegal, and I did it anyway. Rebel poser!Quote:
So maybe not knowing the law is OK for you.
He dodged the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by SavyIs that not exactly what you would say if you were in ISIS?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
Red Flags all over that post.
Probably best to just consider yourself surveilled, now.
:p
Cool. I learned something, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaStand
https://media.giphy.com/media/KAJ7pjQ6pt3TW/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
Now I want to watch, "My Cousin Vinny"
My cousin Aubrey.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/28...rayon-box.html
What's the over/under on what a 2017 box of crayons, mint condition, will be worth 20 years from now?
lolwat?!
Data-free political opinions are pure melodrama.
That guy doesn't see past his own bias. At least, if he does, he gives no indication of seeing humanity in his perceived opponents.
Dat hyperbolic rhetoric, though.
"We're talking about a culture war, with the emphasis on war."
There's no "war" going on. There aren't battle lines. There's no headlines about Missouri invading Illinois, FFS.
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Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
This has been the rhetoric for some time now. The right is losing the culture war.
I don't understand what they are saying, but that's probably because I'm not a card carrying member of the right. But I have to wonder if things have gotten bad enough, that people have to identify as being right wing for video game reviews.
WTF.
full disclosure: I see no point in media reviews at all. Some video game reviews I can tolerate, but movie reviews should be axed.
It's just that I have no idea what they're saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
When I think of culture, I don't see a lot of division in America, and when I think of war, I don't see any in America.
There is tremendous political and economic disagreement, but that characterizes all periods in American history.
What is a culture war?
What distinguishes the various sides in this war?
I'm not entirely sure what the guy in the video is getting at exactly, but I think the notion of a 'culture war' refers to the idea that one's sides values are being accepted as mainstream whereas the other's aren't. The argument I think he's making is that the media and entertainment and much of what's highly visible in American culture is left wing, so inasmuch as one side has a greater ability to broadcast their ideas to mass audiences, that side is 'winning the culture war.'Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b5Hlf4pV3Y
Another one
I don't get those videos (I've not watched them either) but I blame them for the forum being boring the past 2-3 days.
Gays, blacks, latinos and women. Idk if I'd say war tho
That's just painful to listen toQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
Best I can tell.. one group of people - who already got their kicks out of arguing with another group of people - figured out a thing to say which the other people get riled up about. So the first group keeps saying it, despite it being nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
It's nonsense, because the actual divisions between the sides are talking points, and not cultural differences. You want to talk winning a culture war, let's look at the Amish or Mennonite communities, or the Native American communities.
Your face is boring the past 2 - 3 days.
Noone wins a fucking culture war. That's because it's not a real war. If culture wars were real things that were either won or lost, then punk would've died a long time ago.
IDK about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Wasn't the European conquest of the Americas a pretty straight-forward culture war?
Aztecs really lost the culture war, there. The war war was pretty hard on them, too.
If you like. I'd say it was a territorial war. Sure, it's two cultures colliding, but ultimately you have an invador and a defender. Bottom line is it's about territory. Culture is not the primary reason that people go to war, it's just what characterises those engaged.Quote:
Wasn't the European conquest of the Americas a pretty straight-forward culture war?
Yeah, there was real warfare, and it was about territory. I'm not denying that at all.
There were definite aspects of culture war, that were also a part of that process.
E.g. most Native American sports are completely lost, due to the fact that they were outlawed and punishable by death.
Ultimately it comes down to nothing of any meaning then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHjpvpZyuow
Regulations
Pretty much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savy
Culture war is a real thing, but nothing that resembles culture war is going on in the USA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM49MmzrCNc
WALL STREET JOURNAL CAUGHT FABRICATING STORIES TO DEMONIZE YOUTUBE AS A PLATFORM FOR ADVERTISERS
The epitome of fake news. This one did just happen
WRESTLEMANIAAAAAAAAAA
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...stab-vest.html
tl;dr - google demonised for allowing youtube vid showing people how to stab through a stab proof vest, implying it puts cop's lives at risk, though if you watch the video turns out he's reviewing a consumer-grade stab proof vest (well below the quality of police-grade), exposing its flaws, and is urging people not to buy it.
The amount of revenue Google/Youtube lost because of this
Holy shit they can actually sue the WSJ into oblivion starring Tom Cruise
I am already seeing a few busses full of lawyers pulling up at the courthouse
Traditonal media really really want to see youtube gone, and they go to crazy lengths to get to this goalQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Surely it's too big now? Even if they succeed and youtube is brought down, well that creates a vacuum. When it comes to news, LiveLeak is already well placed to take over from youtube, in fact that's a potentially bigger problem for the mainstream because LiveLeak will let you see all the gory details of war, unlike youtube. If youtube falls, lots of people, and I mean lots, will discover a more serious threat to the MSM. Currently, not many people have found LiveLeak, because youtube is so utterly dominant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
Yeah, if they're trying to bring down youtube, their strategy has the potential to backfire horribly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
When it comes to ads, Goole and therefore Youube is king. That is why they are "Attacking" like this. They want to bring them down, because they want to be able to sell more ads
Hence the going to the advertisers strategy with pwediepie. That was a proof-of-concept attack. The real target was YouTube.
And would you look at that, the rabbit hole goes deeper
http://adage.com/article/digital/eri...crisis/308435/