Lol no, not Rogan. I would describe that as a way bigger podcast. That would be amazing but I haven't done anything to warrant being on his podcast.
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Lol no, not Rogan. I would describe that as a way bigger podcast. That would be amazing but I haven't done anything to warrant being on his podcast.
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Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
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We also tend to approach problem-solving in a paradigm of duality too: problem --> solution (i.e. gun control will solve gun violence, etc), as though causality unfolds in a linear way when in fact we live in a world of incredibly complex
I run scripts most of the time and I see others running them on me. Just the fun of being alive, imo. The further fun is noticing how they queue off their scripts and seeing how I queue off mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
FFSQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
whatever
here are some monkeys
https://imgur.com/0BefAIL
and some dogs
http://i.imgur.com/CajRELV.gifv
You should realize that all law is an encroachment on freedoms, and good law minimizes that encroachment as much as possible, while not failing to deliver the intended disincentive. Maybe anti-mask laws cannot have their encroachments on freedom adequately mitigated, or maybe anti-mask laws create enough good to compensate for the sadness they bring to the impromptu public theater troupes.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
This seems to be where the discussion is. Everyone agrees there are situations, rare as they are, where masks can be used to aid bad people in doing bad things, and on the other hand there are more common and legitimate reasons to where masks. Further, in the case of anti-mask legislation, a line will need to be drawn, and it will almost surely be an arbitrary delineation.
What does a series of statements, masked by a gratuitous use of rhetorical question marks, add to the current state of the discussion?
On the Robbins quote, the cycle of oppressed turning to oppressor can be broken. A way to do it is the ideology of individual liberty. The oppressor believes his way is right for all and the oppressed-turned-oppressor also believes his way is right for all. The advocate of individual liberty does not believe his way is right for all but believes in all having the right to individual liberty.
Yeah but the following logic of banning masks as that would stop the bad things is just false. The masks aren't the problem. So fucking about with them isn't the solution. If you're going to rob a shop for example (of which there is a law against) do you decide not to do that because there is a law saying don't wear a mask? Of course not.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
It's akin to banning cars to solve the problem of drunk drivers.
If you can think of better examples of banning masks being a good solution then please do post some.
Yeah but who has no views which result in restrictions of liberty for groups of people. Even if you do have a group of people who believe all of that what do you do when someone starts pushing other ideologies on people?Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
The whole you do what you want as long as it doesn't harm anyone else logic as great as it sounds breaks down pretty quickly.
You're insisting that crimes (at least those in which masks are sometimes used) are committed or not committed with no credence being given to the ease with which the crime can be committed. I think this is a false premise. Just as a deterrent, like a vault, can be expected to weed out less determined would-be-robbers, removing tools from the robbery tool kit should dissuade some number of potential robbers. Whether those numbers are sufficient to justify anti-mask laws, I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImSavy
Stop people from initiating infringement of liberty on other people.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImSavy
The US government already does this by constitution on many issues. More can be done. A lot more.
If you're talking about restricting the access to masks then maybe that would act as more of a barrier but I (and I assume we) was talking about wearing masks in public being the restriction which I don't think would result in any real effect on the crimes happening and that's not even factoring in the negative payoffs of loss of freedom of the people. If we are talking about removing the availability of masks then the problem with that is that make shift masks aren't very hard to make & I assume these are what are usually worn when masks are used to commit crimes rather than more Halloween related masks.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
I hope that makes sense, reads really badly.
Yeah but it's by no means black and white. Also as soon as you have a government you're somewhat infringing on peoples liberties.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Creating more crimes makes it easier to prove a crime occured. It's not just about deterrence, it's an alternative case theory as well.
Before you start harping on how more crimes means less liberty, consider that the availability of an alternative crime can help a defendant in plea bargaining.
You can't get a good deal if we the facts don't support a plea to a lesser charge.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImSavy
Still, the government can infringe more or it can infringe less. The governments of the US originally infringed very little. Now they infringe a lot. A culture of people who vote for liberty would change that.
I wasn't thinking of restricting the availability, and as you pointed out, that idea is dead from the jump. The logic of restricting people from wearing masks is that only those who sought to break the law would wear masks. This actually is the exact opposite effect of the "if you outlaw guns, only criminals will have guns" line of thinking. If only criminals wear masks, those which do are advertising that they are criminals in the act of committing a crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImSavy
I think it's only reasonable to offer this conceit, however I think it belies your position. "Very little", "a lot", "vote for liberty". I get what you're getting at, but it's all a bit vague. When ever the needle tickles your satisfaction, there will be someone else hysterical, limbs flailing about, shouting to all who will listen (and all who won't for that matter) that the infringement gauge is deep in the red.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Not so random random thought: maybe the government that exhibits a lasting trend of rolling back its infringements is like Benjamin Button in one of two ways 1) a novel idea that's fun to play around with, but ultimately fantasy, and nonsensical fantasy at that 2) doomed to shrink into non existence.
True, but it does seem measurable. The topic you recently discussed, Prohibition, is a good example. The law increased the infringement on liberty, and striking it down decreased infringement.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
The bold might very well be the case. I don't (yet) have a theory for how humans can naturally gravitate away from authoritarianism. At this point it appears that the better people have it, the more ignorant they become of where good things come from, and they sell their liberties away for comfort, entertainment, and a twisted sense of justice. By this logic, a society that successfully doesn't infringe on liberties should be expected to hit a negative feedback due to cultural naivete and decadence.Quote:
Not so random random thought: maybe the government that exhibits a lasting trend of rolling back its infringements is like Benjamin Button in one of two ways 1) a novel idea that's fun to play around with, but ultimately fantasy, and nonsensical fantasy at that 2) doomed to shrink into non existence.
Another element I'm batting around is that there seems to be a geographic nature to what people believe. The main part of this is that as population density increases, it appears that people feel less control over their lives and desire more authority to keep things organized. Imagine living on a farm in Wyoming. If something goes wrong, it is either something you had some responsibility over and/or you have to fix it. But if you live in NYC, if something goes wrong, there are a million complex causes and a million things to blame. On the farm, it's obvious why having a government authority would just make things worse. But in the city, it isn't so obvious.
Let's make things a shade more difficult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-nvNAcvUPE
Guy does real well, the crowd has some great pot-shots, but it all kinda collapses at the tail end when he tires out.
He does do pretty well, except the exchange around 6:30 makes no sense on his part. "i didn't say it wasn't a big deal, i said i didn't care if people called me that." What does that mean?? He contradicts himself and never directly acknowledges the point they made. I'm not saying there's no good rebuttal, but he definitely didn't give one.
rilla, i feel this isn't the first time your cryptic and terse responses have left me super confused.
wuf -- there's definitely a geographic nature to what people believe. The idea of "psychogeography" is somewhat related to this. It's a much more expansive concept that I don't fully understand because I haven't read all the literature, but the simplest definition offered by Guy Debord supports your statement: "the study of the precise laws and specific effects of the geographical environment, consciously organized or not, on the emotions and behavior of individuals."
In the same way that the medium is the message (in the sense that it is the way we receive information -- and not the information itself -- that shapes society and our interpersonal dynamics), our environment and the way we interact with it affects our behaviors.
I often wonder why I don't drop all my ambitions and just live a quiet life where the salt of the Aegean is ever-present in the air, because that's where I am truly at my sanest.
Terse?
I find myself brief and warm.
Cryptic is a fair point, though.
thanks for clarifying:)
edit: honestly the fact that i don't have the option to use a text smiley over the emoji is bullshit and quite frankly makes this place an oppressive regime. "individual liberty" my ass.
My god those kids were annoying. How'd he not punch one of em?
Good people aspire to be good people, bad people are convinced they already are.
Who said that, Jack Burton?
Analogous to the notion that stupid people have the blind conviction that they are unerringly smart and smart people are insecure and second-guess themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
i second guess other people. smart league.
I second guess myself and distrust anything coming from wuf. Genius league.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
genius league > smart league.
you've foiled me this time. but next time.....there's gonna be a next time.
I looked for evil laugh gif and I found angry yawn gif.
Better.
https://media.giphy.com/media/JwjUmrdoRdt7O/giphy.gif
Me.Quote:
Originally Posted by JKDS
I was hoping for a Bertrand Russel type when I went to google, but I'm happy to take Jack Burton as a compliment.
coincidentally, bertrand russell (along with many others) said the thing i compared your statement to.
https://www.facebook.com/stantonwarr...type=2&theater :dance:
I know its the randomness thread but the facebook link was totally random, is it in any way related to the great philosopher Earl Jack Bertrand?Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
This one is easy: It was Dynamo messing about with his time machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEc_jeGBVxs
It's sun worship. Jesus = Sol. Ever seen the reflection of the sun on water? I have.Quote:
What was “walking on water,” if it wasn’t Bible talk for surfing?
Thomas Pynchon posed the question in Inherent Vice, which was then made into one of the most brilliant films I've ever seen by PT Anderson (hence the Les Baxter song it links to, which was on the soundtrack [which is also mmmph *kisses fingers* fantastic]). So y'all can go tell him your theories yourselves. ;P
YouTube vid is blocked in my country (Amurica). :(
The video was totally random. I dunno. Just spreading the gyrating Christian joy.
Society is entering a new epoch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4eARl9omVs
Where talent and satire merge as one
Mel Brooks the original merger of talent and satire.
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-conten...spaceballs.gif
Looks like I missed a lot after disconnecting for a few days. Hello from the northern tip of Vietnam.
How do people go about remembering peoples names when they meet quite a few new people at once? I'm bad enough at remembering one new name any more than that in a short period of time and it's unlikely I'm retaining any of them. At the same time though it's going to appear rude and is something I should fix so any ideas are appreciated.
I try associating the name with something.
Others deliberately repeat the name a ton before the meeting ends
Repitition. When I meet someone I repeat their name in my head a few times and try to say it a few times within the first 10 minutes of meeting them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImSavy
Also, people are human and we all forget names sometimes. It's much better to be upfront and say I apologize but could you repeat your name for me. I think this is greater appreciated. "Hey, man" or tricks to figure out someone's name are pretty transparent.
The three R's.
Repetition repetition repetition.
Repetition works by keeping the name in short term memory long enough for it to be encoded in long term memory. Association works by encoding the name more deeply, in a network that already exists in LTM. The more different ways a name can be encoded, the better it will be remembered.
Obviously if you have time repetition is easier and will work. If you're given multiple names to remember in quick succession however, that isn't really an option. In that case what I do is to repeat the name out loud, look at the person, and try to associate the name with something memorable about them. It could be 'Rosie' and red hair or something, where you think 'Rosie is red'. The next time you see the person that feature serves as a cue - you see the red hair and think 'Rosie'.
Repeating the name out loud encodes it on a motor level, so that your brain associates the sight of that person with the act of saying their name. It also helps encode it on an auditory level, as you hear the name you're saying and looking at the person whose name it is.
Another trick is to associate them with something memorable. For example, if it were Stan, you might think 'Stan with a face like a can', and then picture his face as a can. You might then imagine them scratching their face and it making a tinging sound. Or maybe the can is filled with nuclear waste. The more vivid and silly it is the more memorable it's likely to be because how can you forget 'Stan the can face, who tings when he touches his face and is spilling out with nuclear waste?'
Obviously you should be thinking these things silently and not saying 'nice to meet you Stan the can face' ;) (although if you can get away with it, saying it out loud would probably help you remember it better).
Most work places have all the names and photos on the intranet now. I tend to download the organisation chart in my first week and spend some time getting all the names and faces down. That and repetition.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImSavy
Schools have the photos of the pupils on the school system too (if that's where you're working). You can also use seating plans to make life easier.
In my experience, remembering a person's name is one of the best things you can do to build a relationship. That and remembering a few things about them, no matter how long it was since you saw them e.g. "How is life in xyz?", "How is your daughter xyz getting on with the new school?", "bad result for Leeds this weekend", etc. So many people are so bad at this and I find it annoying if I can remember telling them something and they can't remember it at all.
I'm really good at that for some reason yet names just don't stick. Of the 20 or so people I've spoken to I could tell you where they are from, what the used to do, how they get to work, some basic small talk stuff yet I can remember 4 names. 2 of them are higher ups who I'll never have a conversation with, one is the guy I've been stood next to for ~25 hours (and I only know that as I keep checking his work badge) and one is a girl I think is hot so for some reason sticks.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bean Counter
And no just working in a warehouse atm, school stuff won't start till next year probably maybe not even until August but ye remembering students names is obviously very important too.
And half the time it's met with a sigh of relief and a "I forgot yours too, could you please tell me." Authentic interaction usually helps with ingraining their name too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
There have been a couple people whose names I repeatedly forgot though. They'd be really excited to see me every time and I felt like such a jackass. After about the third time of that happening their names naturally cemented themselves in my head out of shame. That can be a last resort thing to rely on. :P
so I did that podcast thing. I think it came out ok for my first time doing anything of the sort. Def had the whole "oh man i should have said x y and z" and all other sorts of worries and qualifications of what i said afterwards, but that's normal, i'm sure. anyway, if anyone wants to hear it, shoot me a message.
Why not just post it so people can click as their own leisure?
I'm interested to see what it's about but it's unlikely I'll listen to the whole thing.
i guess i'm just being a little shy/reserved. i was so nervous and there's so much i didn't say that i should have, so many thoughts i had that i forgot due to performance anxiety, so many things i didn't articulate up to my standards. i dunno, it's a little rough.
i don't expect anyone to listen to the entire thing, or anywhere close, most (not all) of the things we discuss isn't really anyone's bag here. but i appreciate any time you take out of your schedule to give it. :) the second half is considerably better, more relaxed, and silly/fun, number of good laughs. maybe skipping around is best.
http://studiodonovan.com/listen/2016...e-sakellaridis
i guess the only thing id request is that if anyone has critical feedback, just pm me, don't post about it here. thanks.
i got another podcast invite, bigger one this time. i'm happy to share as they unfold, hopefully i'll get better with experience.
newayz
</making a huge deal out of nothing>
I am shocked that you used a pseudonym on the podcast.
What's wrong with your real name, Aubrey McFate?
What are you hiding?
http://studiodonovan.com/listen/2016...e-sakellaridis
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
...
:popcorn:
Warning: This may cause a rapid decrease in your naiveté.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs
I got to "if only you had the power..." then noticed it's 20 minutes long and can't be arsed.
I clearly don't have the power.
oh man, you shoulda said x y and zQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
"I'm not high at all... this is really traumatic" lol, some people just don't do sobriety
I'll listen to the rest tomorrow. You've been great so far
So what is reality, aub?
reality is that thing that i'm pretty sure exists outside the static of my own anxiety. :P
seriously though, i feel like endeavoring towards a satisfactory or conclusive response to that question is kind of pointless. i think of reality as Huxley put it, possessing an "immanent Otherness," one that we can be aware of but can never fully know through our individual perspective. this is also the reason ego death is such a significant and life-changing experience for people, to be completely outside of yourself, to exist entirely without your subjective identity, is exhilaratingly and ineffably revelatory. this is why the appetite for ecstasy in its philosophical definition, which literally means to be or stand outside of oneself, is so innate amongst humans, be it through mind-altering substances or other profound experiences.
MMM, clearly my real name rolls off the tongue so much more easily.. one thing i love Milo Yiannopoulos (whom i have such a torrid love/hate relationship with) is he didn't shorten his name like other public figure Greeks do. he forces everyone who talks about him to basically deep throat that long Greek last name.. Really admirable!
for years and i never once thought it was sakellar-eye-dis. who are these dweebs who dont know how to pronounce a simple name
inb5 everybody pronounces my handle with a soft g.
Reality is that stubbornly persistent thing we all share.
I think Einstein mighta said that.
ps amazing vid mmm
You mihgt appreciate Aubrey that this same experience often happens to those with brain damage to that area of the brain (mind) that encompasses self identity. You might find this interesting, specifically the chapter on the man who could not identify his own leg:Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
http://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Non-fict...BkSH0820150120
I love Oliver Sacks. I can't see that without signing up for a free trial which I'd rather avoid, but that book is on my list of things to read anyway. I need to finish Musicophilia first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopadoop
This TED Talk by Jill Bolte Taylor is similar. She had a massive stroke and different brain functions shut down, and her experience of it is so compelling and fascinating to listen to. https://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte...ht?language=en
Rilla -- Speaking of Einstein, he was a pretty spiritual dude in his own way, and he actually had a whole dialogue on the nature of reality with spiritual philosopher and poet Rabindranath Tagore (who is one dooooope motherfucker, check him out). It's a short read, like 4 pages, you can read the whole thing here, I think you'll dig it: https://www.scienceandnonduality.com...ein_tagore.pdf
this sentiment on spirituality by Einstein resonates with me deeply:
"The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion. Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor faculties - this knowledge, this feeling ... that is the core of the true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank myself among profoundly religious men."
This thread is getting less and less random but I like it.
17 purple umbrellas and a pink one.
No polka dots?
Who the fuck wants a polka dot umbrealla?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
A quick google search seems to indicate that the answer you're looking for is, "girls."Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I think it's just twat girls.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey
Like my friend Holly. I bet she has a polka dot umbrella.
I'd rock a sweet polka dot umbrella.
Just twats, then.
http://troll.me/images/like-a-sir-do...ably-thumb.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
You rang?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Fam-a-lam, let's not reduce people to quotes.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
"TAGORE: When the universe is in harmony with man, the eternal, we know it as truth, we feel it as beauty.
EINSTEIN: That is a purely human conception of the universe."
Beauty is a funny thing for me. I take to the gallows humor of reality more than I do the deep harmony of beauty.
That short convo is incredible
Here you go
"beauty is the quantum number associated with the number of bottom quarks"
the strangest possible take on beauty.
Cal-Tech hippies tried to name the new quarks they discovered as Truth and Beauty, but got vetoed by the wider physics community, so they settled on Top and Bottom.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
...
In my experience, some bottoms are more beautiful than others.
No. Strangeness is the quantum number associated with the number of strange quarks.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
Hahaha
Snakes vs lizard.
https://streamable.com/0z8g
Just in case y'all don't reddit.
And it's absolutely awesome. So awesome in fact I've interrupted people watching other stuff and demanded they watch this now and all agreed it was interruption worthy material.
Holy shit! I don't think I've ever yelled "You got this, buddy! Oh no, no no no...yeah! You got this! Do it! " so many times in my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by rong
This made me giggle
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3f...5/13/cafe1.jpg
^^ Could do with that sign outside most places near my office in London. There's far too many bearded snobs that look like an Apple ambassador, expecting you to be impressed by their talk of books and films you've never heard of.
There always used to be a pub in a rough area near my parents' house that had a sign in the door saying "no students, no blacks". That's usually assumed of any pub that hangs an England flag in its front window, but good of them to avoid any doubt.
When you say no blacks, I'm assuming you mean the color of trendy turtlenecks, right?
Did you miss the bit about the England flag?
I didn't know that was a thing. Are 'Muricans excluded from these places? I'm neither black or a student.
I'm pretty sure you'd be a toff and possibly beaten up in these places.
Foreign though. That being said I'm sure they'd take the same attitude towards people from any further afield than their postcode.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
These are people who are a band of regulars who make the pub their second home.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
Imagine the bar in the Old West where you walk in, the music stops, and everybody turns to stare at you. "We don't take kindly to interlopers around these here parts, mister."
Same type of thing happens in a lot of locals here, especially if it's a small neighborhood pub. The good news is there's a pub on every other corner and these ones are a minority.
Yeah there's not exactly a shortage of places to drink. In fact there's so many it amazes me that we can support so many.
I envy your sheltered life in Cornwall.Quote:
Originally Posted by rong
The pub scene in the shitty towns without tourism is dead. The smoking ban has fucked it right up the arse. Pubs are closing down fast, and have been for years. The only pubs that thrive are shitty "trendy" bars that the twats go to for the shit music and slags, and pubs that focus on food. Cornish pubs like that awesome beach pub you have in your neck of the woods, the Watering Hole, keep going because they make a fortune off tourists during the summer. Pubs near big football grounds obviously do well enough on matchday to pay the bills. Independant pubs do ok because they offer something most pubs don't... quality ale and cider instead of the brands the breweries insist on forcing on their pubs. The only decent music venue we have here in Kidderminster struggles to make ends meet, and nearly closed down in Janurary.
Dirty little pubs filled with racists are probably propped up by money laundering. It's certainly not going to be the hearty food and enchanting company.
In my city pubs are packed weekends and quite busy during the week. There's a ton of options from wine bars, sports bars, spoons, food places, expensive places with nice booze, live music, all sorts. But it is a city so I guess it should be busy.
And smoking ban has made no difference.
Smoking ban has had a huge impact in grotty town pubs. I guess the cities have the population, wealth and culture to keep thriving. There's no shortage of people with money who want a drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by rong
You're living in a city? I thought you were in Perranporth?
If you're talking about Truro, then we're talking about a city, albeit a small one, that has a thriving tourism scene, even off season. Furthermore, it's a wealthy part of the country, with lots of culture. There's a university-standard college in the city, and Falmouth university is half an hour away. It's no surprise that pubs and bars are thriving there.
lol what?Quote:
Originally Posted by rong
Local areas in smaller pubs it definitely has. In town (Manchester) it definitely has. I'm not sure why you think there is no change. Maybe in like middle class and above like gastro pubs and places like that.
I can't think of any positives that the smoking ban in pubs and bars has really had.
I'm not suggesting any positives. But in terms of when I go out drinking, which I've done consistently for about 18 years now, I didn't notice any reduction in numbers that coincided with the smoking ban. Probably noticed a lot more people standing outside which has coincided with more effort being put into making beer gardens a bit nicer, but that aside it seems the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImSavy
Starting to understand perhaps, The pubs with rainbow flags must be reserved for the various colors then?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bean Counter
Or is it just for international students and the twats who buy polka dot umbrellas from the united colors of Beneton? (whatever that was supposed to have meant).
I wouldn't like to wander in to the wrong type of pub by accident for not understanding the flag code.
That could be as bad as displaying the wrong handkerchief in Brighton.
When I choose a post to quote and respond to, my space bar no longer works. Thanks, Trump.