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Hopefully it'll continue like that, not necessarily 15ptbb/100...but you know.. FR gives me a little more time to hand read too, at max 16tabling was a little too frantic to really think about hands. 16tablign FR seems pretty comfortable and I can take my time with decisions, esp if I'm not on the fast tables.Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
So I had a lame session yesterday... $300 lost, no goot. Thing is I didn't actually run that badly, I was distracted by friends for a ~10min period but never really regained focus after that.
ANYWAY...
I just got a month-month subscription for deuces cracked. The lack of sign-up fee and the fact that some videos are downloadable are huge bonuses for me. I will do a review or something of it sometime.
just had a bit of a superlame session... dropped 5buyins, -$500 in sklanskys, -$200 AA vs. KK and a nasty flopped bottom set vs. nut straight.
ANYWAY the point of this post was not to bitch but to show my awesome razz skills
PokerStars Game #17944939415: Razz Limit ($0.04/$0.08) - 2008/06/05 - 22:32:46 (ET)
Table 'Hercynia II' 8-max
Seat 1: bobdor ($1.21 in chips)
Seat 2: rodneyraider ($3.97 in chips)
Seat 3: huracan ($0.70 in chips)
Seat 4: call_moron ($2.39 in chips)
Seat 5: Ziahmyers ($1.49 in chips)
Seat 6: astuteNacute ($4.63 in chips)
Seat 8: badgers_uk ($1.71 in chips)
bobdor: posts the ante $0.01
rodneyraider: posts the ante $0.01
huracan: posts the ante $0.01
call_moron: posts the ante $0.01
Ziahmyers: posts the ante $0.01
astuteNacute: posts the ante $0.01
badgers_uk: posts the ante $0.01
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to bobdor [4h]
Dealt to rodneyraider [9h]
Dealt to huracan [Jc]
Dealt to call_moron [Jd]
Dealt to Ziahmyers [7s]
Dealt to astuteNacute [Tc]
Dealt to badgers_uk [Td As 5c]
badgers_uk said, "rly?"
badgers_uk said, "dam him"
call_moron: brings in for $0.02
Cutting34 said, "damn moron"
Ziahmyers: calls $0.02
badgers_uk said, "ok this time im going to win"
astuteNacute: calls $0.02
call_moron said, "lol"
badgers_uk said, "cap every street"
badgers_uk: raises $0.02 to $0.04
bobdor: raises $0.04 to $0.08
rodneyraider: folds
huracan: folds
huracan leaves the table
call_moron: folds
badgers_uk said, "raise any"
Ziahmyers: calls $0.06
badgers_uk said, "tick"
astuteNacute: calls $0.06
badgers_uk: raises $0.04 to $0.12
bobdor: raises $0.04 to $0.16
Betting is capped
Ziahmyers: calls $0.08
astuteNacute: calls $0.08
badgers_uk: calls $0.04
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to bobdor [4h] [Qc]
Dealt to Ziahmyers [7s] [6h]
Dealt to astuteNacute [Tc] [5d]
Dealt to badgers_uk [Td As 5c] [7c]
badgers_uk: bets $0.04
I//inois_// joins the table at seat #3
bobdor: calls $0.04
Ziahmyers: raises $0.04 to $0.08
astuteNacute: raises $0.04 to $0.12
badgers_uk said, "CAP"
badgers_uk: raises $0.04 to $0.16
Betting is capped
bobdor: calls $0.12
badgers_uk said, "good"
Ziahmyers: calls $0.08
call_moron said, "lol"
astuteNacute: calls $0.04
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to bobdor [4h Qc] [Kd]
Dealt to Ziahmyers [7s 6h] [8s]
Dealt to astuteNacute [Tc 5d] [7d]
Dealt to badgers_uk [Td As 5c 7c] [2s]
badgers_uk: bets $0.08
bobdor: calls $0.08
Ziahmyers: calls $0.08
badgers_uk said, "CAP"
astuteNacute: raises $0.08 to $0.16
badgers_uk: raises $0.08 to $0.24
bobdor: raises $0.08 to $0.32
Betting is capped
Ziahmyers: calls $0.24
astuteNacute: calls $0.16
badgers_uk: calls $0.08
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to bobdor [4h Qc Kd] [Kc]
Dealt to Ziahmyers [7s 6h 8s] [3d]
Dealt to astuteNacute [Tc 5d 7d] [9d]
Dealt to badgers_uk [Td As 5c 7c 2s] [Ad]
call_moron said, "kq???"
badgers_uk: bets $0.08
bobdor: raises $0.08 to $0.16
Ziahmyers: raises $0.08 to $0.24
astuteNacute: raises $0.08 to $0.32
Betting is capped
badgers_uk said, "CAP"
call_moron said, "lol"
badgers_uk: calls $0.24
Cutting34 said, "he has kkk"
bobdor: folds
badgers_uk said, "trip kings"
call_moron said, "wow"
astuteNacute said, "thats racist"
Ziahmyers: calls $0.08
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to badgers_uk [Td As 5c 7c 2s Ad] [8h]
badgers_uk said, "pretty good"
astuteNacute said, "im reporting"
badgers_uk: bets $0.08
badgers_uk said, "lols"
badgers_uk said, "cap plz"
Ziahmyers: calls $0.08
astuteNacute: raises $0.08 to $0.16
badgers_uk: raises $0.08 to $0.24
Ziahmyers: calls $0.16
astuteNacute: raises $0.08 to $0.32
Betting is capped
badgers_uk: calls $0.08
Ziahmyers: calls $0.08
*** SHOW DOWN ***
astuteNacute: shows [3s 8d Tc 5d 7d 9d 6s] (Lo: 8,7,6,5,3)
badgers_uk: shows [Td As 5c 7c 2s Ad 8h] (Lo: 8,7,5,2,A)
Ziahmyers: mucks hand
badgers_uk said, "MONSTER POT"
badgers_uk collected $4.65 from pot
badgers_uk said, "owwwwwwwwwwned"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.73 | Rake $0.08
Seat 1: bobdor folded on the 6th Street
Seat 2: rodneyraider folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 3: huracan folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: call_moron folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 5: Ziahmyers mucked [6c 4s 7s 6h 8s 3d Qd]
Seat 6: astuteNacute showed [3s 8d Tc 5d 7d 9d 6s] and lost with Lo: 8,7,6,5,3
Seat 8: badgers_uk showed [Td As 5c 7c 2s Ad 8h] and won ($4.65) with Lo: 8,7,5,2,A
wow i like to bitch for a sentence and the write anyway in caps a lot.
Stop losing please!
despite what the blog says I'm still up $400 for the month. I guess I feel more compelled to post when I run bad. However the intense razz action made me feel much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by bjsaust
Lol, nice then :).
plugging leaks
- i make too many hero calls vs. 40bb stacks.
- When a solid 20BB player (lol) flats pre he has aces.
- too many mistakes/misclicks/rushed decisions. I almost never get to my timebank on any tables. While you might think that is a good thing, to me it is a sign that I am still rushing a lot.
- Adapting when getting 3bet light.
- cbetting too much
- not exploiting everyone else who cbets too much
We'll see how it goes today but those will be my new focuses.
dont play when tired boys and girls.
i dunno, i feel like I'm stagnating at the moment.... I'm changing my June goals, significantly.
- Watch every DC video on FR that has been made (there's only about 10 and I've watched 2 already so that won't be hard)
- Note up EVERY player that I have over 1k hands on. I have a 175k hand database so that's quite a lot of work.
- Give 100% in every session. Lately I've made bad mistakes and it's unnecesary.
- Private study. i want to get a better idea of what unexploitable shoves are after I've been 3bet pre.
- Lose less in non-SD pots. Probs raise W$WSF as this happens.
- Don't play tired.
- Maybe make a video or two.
So far I am +$600 in 25k hands. no good. I'm not running horrendously, just playing badly. That is a major concern.
Oh yeah I may not play much for the rest of this month. 60k hands is a reasonable target. I can see myself spending a lot of time studying/making notes while watching football.
I've had enough of staying up late to catch the fish. It's ruining my sleep pattern which in turn is causing me to play badly. I will not play past 2am again this month.
Actually fuck it I've been thinking some more....
- 16 tables max.
I've been playing too many tables. It causes my HUD to occasionally disappear and I'm not thinking through my decisions enough. I believe I could be such a better player on 16 tables and that would simultaneously help me try and make the breakthrough to 200nl.
Hourly rate isn't everything at the moment, I need to improve as well.
K enough ranting for one night I'm going to bed now.
One of the biggest lessons to learn. Stuff like dont play drunk is blindingly obvious, but most people dont realise how much worse they play while tired.Quote:
dont play when tired boys and girls.
GL turning things around badgers. Some study and less tables right now could be just the trigger you need to fly up a level or two of stakes. Make sure you really study the vids, not just tune out watching them. Take physical notes of the points that stand out to you.
get back to your a-game, and pwn!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
your plan sounds good.
badgers, you're the man
thanks guys :heart:
plan for tonight: study then sleep for a long time :)
yay
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
dont play HU vs. bottomset on 2 tables while 24 tabling
june is teh gay although I'm pretty sure I've improved a lot my winrate is lol. SPEW AND LEARN.
After my end of year recital (I'm a music student) on the 25th of June I'll go crazy and play loooooottttttttsssss of hands and make it better.
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee first 1k day ever.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...daypokerEV.jpg
I played pretty loose today and abused the nits like crazy hence the insane won without showdown. I felt like today was the best I have played just about forever but that's probably results oriented.
Also, I find it very funny that pokerEV only has me at $70 above equity, goes to show how inaccurate it is, I was just coolering everyone!
Swingy month so far....
Congrats man, awesome day :).
Awwwwwesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
I'm no expert on pokerEV, but I think this is wrong. Running above expectation means that you are just running good. Let me explain. If you get all your money in PF with AA against KK, you are an ~80% favorite to win, so in a theoretical $100 pot, you win $80 Sklansky bucks. If you win, you are $20 above equity, hence, running good, but if you lose, you'll be $80 below equity and running bad! So if, as you said, you were cooling everybody, you were probably getting your money in good and winning mostly, which means you would obviously be running above expectation. At a hand-for-hand basis, you cannot run "At expectation", unless all your betting is done on the river... Does that make sense?Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
The blue line is $70 above the red line so my showdown winnings were $70 above my sklansky bucks calculated in the manner that you showed. Obviously I was running way above expectation, 21ptBB/100hands is completely unsustainable, but I was running well in ways that PokerEV cannot calculate - non showdown pots and coolers. Hence my comment about it being laughably inaccurate. For instance you can get KK<AA 4 times, win once and you are supposedly running well but down 3 buy-ins.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisBCritter
You can run at expectation if all the money goes in when someone is drawing dead. You can calculate how you are running relative to your sklansky bucks over a number of hands which is exactly what pokerEV does. I'm confused by your last sentence.
Yea, reading over my last sentence, I definitely wasn't clear about what I was trying to say.
Over the long run, if I have interpreted PokerEV correctly, the blue (showdown winnings) and red (Sklansky bucks (expected showdown winnings)) should converge and be roughly the same. This is true of nearly all EV graphs that I've seen. With the blue line above or below the red, this shows how lucky or unlucky you have been when the cards are flipped over.
Now with that said, I would say that having your showdown winnings $70 over is definitely above expectation, but not "way" above. As for non-showdown winnings, obviously you were having a good night, everything was going your way.
It doesn't graph non-showdown pots, but obviously it is the difference between Total winnings and Showdown winnings. But why do you say that PokerEV cannot calculate coolers? AAvsKK is a cooler, but you're still going to get $80 sklanskys, and $100 reals when you win...Guess this depends on your definition of a cooler? I agree that if your villian is drawing dead, then you will run exactly at expectation. Is that what you are trying to say?Quote:
...I was running well in ways that PokerEV cannot calculate - non showdown pots and coolers.
Chris you're misunderstanding me, read this:
Just because the blue line is above the red line doesn't mean you're running well in general. Sure once you've been put in those horrible spots you've run well, but being coolered in spots such as KK<AA etc. etc cannot be calculated.Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
I understand you, BUT, your example is flawed. If you win with KKvsAA 1 in 4 times, you ARE running good. Above and below expectation has NOTHING to do with profit...Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
We're splitting hairs at this point, and looking back I think my math is slightly off. I want to put the numbers down explicitly for both of us.
NL Holdem Any limit, no rake (for calculation purposes)
Hero $100 A:heart:A:diamond:
Villian $100 K:club:K:spade:
All in PF. Pot is $200
Hero wins 81.06% of time = $162.12 (62.12 sklansky bucks)
Villian wins 18.55% of time = $37.10 (-62.9 sklansky bucks)
So after 4 hands of AA vs KK with KK winning once this is what it would look like[*]KK
- AA [list:f1df35d2ec]
- Sklansky bucks = $248.48 (62.12 * 4)
- Showdown winnings = $200 (($100 * 3) + (-$100))
- Blue line BELOW Red line, running below expectation but profitable
[/list:u:f1df35d2ec]I hope this clears up our confusion!
- Sklansky bucks = -$251.60 (-62.9 * 4)
- Showdown winnings = -$200 ((-$100 * 3) + ($100))
- Blue line ABOVE Red line, running above expectation but not profitable.
This is exactly what I mean, I was merely using the graph of an example of how people (including myself) read too much into PokerEV whereas there are so many more ways that variance can affect winrate other than just Sklansky bucks on showdown winnings.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisBCritter
If you get KK<AA 4 times you are not running well. The fact that you win once when you were only likely to win 0.8 is a small relief and you could still be down 3 buyins due to coolers.
Essentially we agree but we're differing in the terminology. If I have been coolered the shit out of but my Sklansky bucks in SD pots is still marginally above EV I would not consider myself to be running well in general, but slightly well in one specific measurable part. As you say, we're splitting hairs.
Another decent day yesterday, up $250ish.
mini operation: play lots of hands in the next few days and get lots of VPPs.
Progress so far - 3.2khands, up $227
hahaha i wasn't lying when i said lots of hands...
10k hands played, $364 profit meh
also i reached my 10k goal for the year a while back.Quote:
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tired now big update tomorrow.
Gratz, man!
nice one!Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
GOOD JOB BADGERS!!!!
Congrats badgers.
Just outta curiosity, how many hands did you wind up playing during double VPP week (i.e. how much did that week help you out)?
Very nice man!!
Thanks guys
I didn't actually play very much because this happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by JinxT4
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...kergrapher.jpg
Not fun. I got back to around -$400 in 20k hands but then I had to move out of halls and party lots as it was the end of my year at college so i thought screw poker. I've now played 38k hands this month and I'm back in the black at ~+$600. Not spectacular but I'm pretty relieved after that downswing.
Sooo, what are my future plans? I don't really know what I should be expecting for the rest of the year... I want to be a midstakes reg sometime soon like at the end of the year, but I've heard that everyone tends to plateau at 200nl and then the games dry up a bit. You need to be able to exploit regs once you get higher up, from what I have heard, so that's what I've been attempting to do at 100nl recently with mixed success. I think it's all a question of experience and knowing when a player is going to snap and do something silly, but I managed to tilt a v nitty reg into stacking off w/ 88 on a 234 rainbow board and then overbet shove ~2x pot with AK on a Jxx board yesterday so that's a start!
As for right now, I'm really unsure about whether to cash in a bonus now. Stars have just released a 4k bonus for 250k FPPs, which us better value than the $1500 bonuses for 100k FPPs. However, I still plan on withdrawing 2k more to pay for rent next year (I'm a life nit, each time I've reached a 6k BR I've withdrawn 1k so far) and I want to move up to 200nl asap. Maybe the best plan is not to withdraw again and just take out 2k when I get the 4k bonus, which could take about another 2 months as I need 120k FPPs until I can afford it and then it takes 28k VPPs to clear......
Anyway, I think I'm going to move up to 200nl when I reach 7k and take shots, moving down again when I hit 6k.
Other developments
I'M MOVING DOWN TO 16 TABLES AND THIS TIME I ACTUALLY MEAN IT GODDAMMIT.
24 tabling is hard, I can't take notes while playing which makes it pointless as then I have to do note-taking sessions in PT which is time I could otherwise spend playing so 16 tables is better. Also I'm pretty sure I can spend more of my time trying to piss off the regs if I'm playing less tables rather than automatically making robotic decisions.
I'm aiming (tentatively) for the 3k milestone bonus for reaching 300k VPPs.
I'm not setting a profit target... Let's just see.
100k hands this month?
Operation Grind to Midstakes - BEGIN!
operation grind to midstakes starts pretty fucking well with $970 in 3.4k hands, roll is now at 6.7k.
grind hardQuote:
Originally Posted by badgers
right there with ya bud...
remember what you said about attacking known players?
This would be awful in a vacuum, but given history and my notes it's +++EV:
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP3 ($113.70)
CO ($287.50)
Button ($106.35)
SB ($100)
Hero ($97.40)
UTG ($98.40)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($52.60)
MP2 ($190.95)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif.
3 folds, MP2 calls $1, 4 folds, Hero raises to $97.4 (All-In),
Wow, I can't see that being the best play vs. a reg pretty much ever... What notes have you got?
well at least it's AA... can't ever be -EV
Does Stars have some special boomswitch for Supernovas or something...? $500 in 1.5k hands today :D
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...kergrapher.jpg
SN is at ~hand 38k. Crazy swings, 22 buy-ins in 6k hands is fun though!
Some fun hands... Villain is a nit. I thought I could have some fun on this board and turn my hand into a bluff folding out JJ+ and obv all his other unpaired hands. I was originally going to shove the river but the speed of his turn call convinced me that he wasn't folding...
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP2 ($99.55)
CO ($44.05)
Button ($65.45)
SB ($102)
Hero ($182.70)
UTG ($94.55)
UTG+1 ($161.90)
MP1 ($81.05)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
3 folds, MP2 raises to $3, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.
Flop: ($6.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $4.5, Hero raises to $12, MP2 calls $7.50.
Turn: ($30.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $22, MP2 calls $22.
River: ($74.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks.
Final Pot: $74.50
Villain showed down KK, maybe he would have folded to a river shove but given the way the turn was a non-decision for him I think he'd have called.
Sooooo, vs. the same villain we take the same line with a made hand and make him spew at me! Normally I think raising this flop w/ AK would be suicide vs. this player.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($112.10)
UTG ($92.50)
UTG+1 ($143.15)
MP1 ($14.15)
MP2 ($128.50)
Hero ($99.50)
CO ($30.10)
Button ($24.90)
SB ($96.50)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
UTG raises to $3, 3 folds, Hero calls $3, 4 folds.
Flop: ($7.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $4.5, Hero raises to $11, UTG raises to $24, Hero calls $13.
Turn: ($55.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $30, Hero calls $30.
River: ($115.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $42.5 (All-In), UTG folds.
Final Pot: $115.50
Fun times. Anyway, roll now at 7.3k, shots at 200nl tomorrow!!!111!!1!
Word!
Get another reg out of the 100NL player pool, works for me.
Gl @ 200NL badgers.
I played my first session of 200nl as promised for a MIGHTY profit of $3.
I was up $550 at one point partially thanks to turning a set over set (hand is posted in FR forum) but then I got 2-outered on the river for $170 and 99>my KK>A6 all in preflop which again was a rivered 9 but meh. I don't really feel tilted or anything overall I'm pretty happy with how I played and I felt pretty comfortable which is a good result for the day.
My thought process - he's calling most raises and I'm going to be OOP for the hand. He's probably noticed me 3-betting Ak.Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
my notes and HUD tell me:
limp-raise x2
open-raises low-mid pairs/AK
he's aggro and likes calling
he called with QQ here... funny guy!
bahhhh I'm going round in circles. I need to get my head screwed on right so I've gone down to 100nl. My biggest leak at the moment by a huge distance is playing out of the blinds I am absolutely spewing all over the place at the moment. From my 4k hands at 200nl my fold BB to steal was at ~70% which is ridic low and symptomatic of my FPS.
Roll is now back to 6.8k which is ok i guess but 1.5k after 57k hands is meh for this month. think of the fpps though...
Oh and I digressed and went back to 24 tabling lol. I felt I needed to grind monotonously to stop me from tilting, it kinda worked i guess but I shouldn't need to do that.
Fun hand as always. Prolly should have donked flop instead of going for a c/r but all's well that ends well.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($52.65)
Hero ($100.60)
UTG ($61.30)
UTG+1 ($98)
MP1 ($59)
MP2 ($146.80)
MP3 ($26.70)
CO ($24.90)
Button ($109.65)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, 5 folds, Hero checks.
Flop: ($2.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks.
Turn: ($2.50) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2, MP1 calls $2.
River: ($6.50) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $6, Hero raises to $97.6, MP1 calls $50 (All-In).
Final Pot: $118.50
Villain fails epic at tarping w/ KK
badgers, how many tables do you open when you try 200NL?
I tried 12 tabling which should have been fine because it's like half of what I'm used to. Basically there was too much there that was new to me and I was getting confused and fps was a huge factor. There were new regs, at 100nl I feel like I know a lot of the regs really well, I know who's spewy who's capable of making big folds and who is 3betting a lot etc. There were just so many players that I had never seen before and that were decent and that's not something I'm used to. Also, I tried raising to 3x in late position as that was what everyone else was doing which in hindsight was a stupid thing to start doing as the last thing I ought to be doing is making changes to my game as I move up. Next time I move up I think I'm just going to play 16 tables and keep eerything the same as my 100nl game until I feel comfortable and then I can think about varying raise sizes and stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmy44
Anyway, I think I'll just keep grinding 100nl for a while and try to make the jump again at 8k. I still didn't feel like I was playing my best game at 100nl today so I just need to get back into the swing of things.
Random thought - were it not for my breakthrough in pokering that happened about 3 months ago I would be working nights shelf-stacking right now. For the two months and a half doing that I would make ~£2k which is $4k. If I going as I am over the summer I'll make like $7-8k at poker before I go back to college AND a $4k bonus in the same time for a fraction of the hours doing something I (mostly...) enjoy and maintaining a social life. I feel better about my mediocre winrate already.
Nice. I read similar advice a while back and think its really good. A lot of people think they suddenly need to start making changes to whats been a winning game style just because they've moved up, but it makes it really hard to figure out how you're going.Quote:
the last thing I ought to be doing is making changes to my game as I move up. Next time I move up I think I'm just going to play 16 tables and keep eerything the same as my 100nl game until I feel comfortable
wat is it they say? hyachachachacha i think
having a really rough time of it again. I just had a look at PokerEV and I'm down like 1.3k in sklansky bucks for the month, also running shit at set<set and KK<AA and the like.
Also, I have only won one pot for a net win of >60BBs in the last 4k hands and that was only for net 80BBs
/end typical bad beat rant that bored everyone. I'm still up for the month and I have earned shit-tons of FPPs so it's all good. Only 80k FPPs until I get to the 4k bonus, although it's like another 28k VPPs to clear after that.....
ANYWAY, an annoying but amusing hand. Villain is a nitty reg but had just started playing back.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($102.60)
UTG ($29)
MP1 ($88.65)
MP2 ($70.70)
CO ($20)
Hero ($214.30)
SB ($50.80)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, BB calls $4, UTG folds.
Flop: ($11.50) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8, BB raises to $22, Hero calls $14.
Turn: ($55.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $28, Hero calls $28.
River: ($111.50) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
Final Pot: $111.50
Results in white below:
BB has 8d 8s (two pair, eights and twos).
Hero has 7d 7h (two pair, sevens and twos).
Outcome: BB wins $111.50.
God, I hate those ones. You make a good read that he doesnt have it and you're right, but he does have enough to beat you :p.
Stick with it man. I used to bitch to myself about how my ai EV was way ahead of my actual winnings, but in the last 7k hands or so they've switched totally until I'm now running way ahead of my ai EV. Its called variance because it varies, keep with it and it'll start falling your way at some point!
this is very nice. Enjoy, and start to run good!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
I neeeeaaaarly managed to have a good day today... Then this happened.
Villain is pumuckel so I'm not convinced by my play cos he's like the biggest nit ever, but even if his range is AcKx,AcAx,KcKx, 8c8x and sets this is a snapcall... btw squeezing nits is fun.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($140.30)
BB ($128)
UTG ($87.65)
UTG+1 ($113.25)
MP1 ($85.40)
MP2 ($131)
CO ($81.35)
Hero ($303.30)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $4, 1 fold, MP2 calls $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $12.
Flop: ($37.50) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $27, MP2 raises to $115, Hero calls $88.......
Anyway he had 99 obv. Awesome.
I managed to scrape back to +$60 in the 2k hands. Quick check of the pokerEV has me down another $200 in sklanskys today... standard so it seems.
It's reeeaaaallly annoying cos I'm trying to open up my game at the moment. I'm running ~16/13 and doing quite a bit of 3betting while trying not to spew by cbetting too much in 3bet pots when I feel like they have a really strong 3bet calling range etc. etc. I feel like when I come out of this I'll be a much better player but this month has just been one long beat.... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
These seem to be the adjustments that will help you loads when you move up, but I'm not sure that they're ++EV at 100nl.Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
i haven't brought squeezing into my game yet - and whenever i attack a perceived squeeze I seem to run into QQ+...
I'm also trying to 3-bet more, but it seems to be about targeting, position and/or blind defence... it's still something I don't do much of though. I think it's lucky for me that I'm not playing on stars - the FT regs are mostly pretty safe to play against!
finally a good day.
I was considering not playing until next month. Today I watched 2 DC videos, messed about w/ PT and pokerstove for a lot, read some really good articles and read a bit of ToP. Basically there was some serious study. At the end of it I felt completely psyched up and ready for pokah and a good session it was too, 2.5k hands +$321 and I cleared the $240 bonus. Roll >7k again woo
i'm basically playing like 16/13 now which i think is much closer to optimal and playing only 16 tables I'm using all that extra time to do things like table select and make notes and actually think... you know, important stuff. Today was the first time I've felt confident w/ my new style. I'm 3betting more, stealing more etc.etc, and hopefully I'm getting better postflop as well. I caught myself thinking things through a bit deeper so hopefully the drop in the number of tables is going to do me good.
However, I still can't sort out my flipping blind numbers. Today for instance in 2.5k hands I had fold SB to steal at 94% and foldBB to st at 69%. WTF??? Whyyyyy? I just think I'm calling too much out of the big blind without any knowledge of the opponent and without any plan. Also I'm 3betting too much from the BB when I should be 3betting from the BU with position. I think atm I'm undervaluing position and overvaluing the importance of having no-one left to act and "protecting my blind" when really 3betting is just a spew.
wheeeeee long post.
OK hand reading time. Villain is 18/11 or something and like to 3bet a lot. I haven't really played back at him today and can't remember/haven't noted previous history cos i was 24 tabling when i played him before. anyway, WTFISTHISSHIT?
What does villain have and why did he stop and go a 4bet?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP1 ($99)
MP2 ($111.90)
MP3 ($132)
CO ($100)
Hero ($95.50)
SB ($99)
BB ($99.60)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($92.60)
Preflop: Hero is Button with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
6 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3.50, BB raises to $16, Hero raises to $37, SB folds, BB calls $21.
Flop: ($78) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $62.6 (All-In), Hero dude wait waaaaaat???
Decent start to the month, I've played 9k hands and I'm up $730 so it's going along nicely. I can't say this is all on merit, I've been running pretty nicely which makes a change from last month :)
2k of those 9k hands are 200nl and I'm trying again... I had my first proper session of 16 tabling today, it went ok and I was up around a buy-in but I was -$250 at 100nl anyway so meh. I think I'm going to mix 200nl and 100nl tables for a while enabling me to table select really well cos even today on a sunday night it was tough getting onto tables at 200nl.
Oh I was expecting to have pretty standard stats for my 200nl stint, but in 2k hands I'm running at 19/17/6 w/ 43% attempt to steal and 70% fold BB to steal. WHAT? I hope it's just an odd sample but I'm going to have to focus on nitting it up in the future i think, at least until I get to know a lot of the regs etc.
SO 200NL ATTEMPT NUMBER 2 BEGINS NO SOULCRUSH DOWNSWING AGAIN PLZ!
GL START PWNING 200NL YOU CAN DO IT!
bring on the upswing!Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
GL man you can do it
Just wondering, how do you get opportunities for all of these bonuses?
I'm supernova at Stars and that gives cool rewards :) When you play, you get FPPs or Frequent Player Points that you can spend on amazon vouchers or cash bonuses or books or whatever. Read more about it at EDIT: stupid filter http://www.pokerASDFstars.com/vip/ without the ASDFQuote:
Originally Posted by CBAT
Pretty awesome day so far, 3k hands played up $700. August>July already :) Unlike what I said yesterday, this was all at 200nl... I dunno how much worse the games are, sure the regs are better and there are less fish but I feel like there are enough players with huge gaping leaks to give me an edge here... Also my stats have normalised which is good, I think I've plugged on of my worst leaks which was isolating EP raisers from EP or MP with garbage, particularly bad with loose players yet to act. If the pot becomes 3way I don't even have position anyway a lot of the time which makes it particularly stupid. Just keep doing it from the LP and forget about OMFG YOU LIMPED I PUNISH YOU every single time...
Probs do another 2/3k hands later.
up 1.2k best day evah i will now sacrifice a goat to the poker gods tyvm.
Nice badgers! Leaks = plugged is always nice for your game :).
Tight, gotta love the ups
photos pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by badgers
daven if you want a pic of the decapitated goat pm me and I'll see what I can do.
I played only 1k hands today as I wanted to stop when I hit a 10k br for the first time ever. However no sooner had I hit 10k than I got coolered with KK<AA<JJ for a stack. BUT I had 10k at one point woop woop. Also I'm up 3k for the month so far :shipit:
pm sentQuote:
Originally Posted by badgers
nh, $3k in 6 days is fineQuote:
Originally Posted by badgers
lol i can't believe how well I run then I mention only the cooler hand I'm such a whiny biatch.
enjoy your goat.
GOGOGOGO BADGERS!!!
EPIC DAY
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...10-08-2008.jpg
OK so I 24 tabled. I can't help myself sometimes... Fun handsss
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($123)
Hero ($433.85)
BB ($203)
UTG ($198)
UTG+1 ($125.45)
MP1 ($79.45)
MP2 ($261.75)
CO ($224.90)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $6, 1 fold, CO calls $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $5, 1 fold.
Flop: ($20) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $19, CO raises to $38, Hero raises to $427.85, MP1 calls $54.45 (All-In), CO calls $180.90 (All-In).
Turn: ($740.20) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($740.20) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $531.25
Results in white below:
Hero has 7h 7c (full house, sevens full of queens).
MP1 has Kd Ks (two pair, kings and queens).
CO doesn't show. ACE ACE FOR THE LOSE
Outcome: Hero wins $740.20.
This one is nice :) Opp is a reg, last time we played I went a little bit mad with 3betting and ended up 4bet/folding once. I thought he might remember that. My image is baaaaddddd woop.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($214)
BB ($237.15)
UTG ($200)
UTG+1 ($509.50)
MP1 ($200)
MP2 ($310.85)
MP3 ($567.30)
CO ($124.45)
Button ($224.15)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
7 folds, Hero raises to $8, BB raises to $22, Hero raises to $58, BB raises to $237.15, Hero calls $156 (All-In).
Flop: ($451.15) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: ($451.15) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($451.15) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $428
Results in white below:
Hero has Ad Kh (flush, king high).
BB doesn't show. KQ offsuit HE'S CRAZY
Outcome: Hero wins $428.
EPICCCCCCCC
So tired now...
seems like it's FTR boomswitch today!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
nice work
tired?! I hear that $1500 buys an ok mattress..
race you to $20k?
you're on! I have to warn you though, I nearly have enough FPPs to buy a 4k bonus although it'll take another 28k VPPs (about 60k hands(tnx spoon)) to clear, so I have a bit of a headstart.Quote:
Originally Posted by daven
GOGOGO
nice 1 fella, teach me how to 24 table? lol.
Two words:Quote:
Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
Poker
Stars
Guuuud shit badgers, this ops inspiring
Kep up the good work :)
I'm probably about to jinx myself, but everything seems to be going rather well at the moment. My move up to 200nl has been most successful, I'm running at ~4ptBB/100 over my first 40k hands, which is much better than my lifetime 100nl winrate! Obviously I'm running hot, but I'm going to enjoy it :D Table selecting has been a HUGE part of my improved winrate, my attitude to table selection used to be pick the first 24 and only get a new table if one I'm on breaks. Now I join waiting lists, leave tables I don't like, ignore bad tables with empty seats for long periods of time etc. etc.
Everyone seems to want to spew at me at the moment. I have got quite a bad image a lot of the time but by using notes I know which players hate me and which players I haven't got out of line vs. so I avoid spewing unnecesarily when I have a clean image. For instance, today I flatted a nits MP open with QQ on the SB. He wasn't playing many tables so I thought it was likely he'd noticed (it went to showdown and I won as well so he would have seen my cards.) This then gave me the freedom to 3bet even against this nit quite liberally because he has no reason to believe I'm 3betting wide. I'm trying to constantly adjust and keep track of my image and history vs. every player, I think this is an intergral part of my development.
With that in mind, here's a hand from yesterday. I had a note "probably thinks I 3bet far too much". He runs a nitty 12/8 or something.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($204.40)
UTG+1 ($247.00)
MP1 ($236.85)
Hero ($464.35)
MP3 ($200.00)
CO ($419.05)
BTN ($197.00)
SB ($195.00)
BB ($217.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is MP2 :th: :ts:
3 folds, Hero raises to $8, 4 folds, BB calls $6
Flop: :tc: :qd: :qs: ($17, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB raises to $24, Hero raises to $54, BB calls $30
Turn: :5h: ($125, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $74, BB raises to $155, Hero calls $81
River: :3d: ($435, 2 players)
Final Pot: $435
BB shows: :kh: :ks:
Hero shows: :th: :ts:
Hero wins $432 ( won +$215 )
BB lost -$217.00
When I 3bet the flop, basically I wanted to look FOS. I knew I had a bad image and he might get frisky w/ AK or something. I really wasn't expecting KK though. Looking at it again, I can kind of understand his point of view. "This guy is too aggro, I'll call and trap with the kings. I'm a fucking retard so I c/minraise flop and over-rep my hand (more likely "I HAVE THE NUTS KINGS WHOOO"), what, he three-bets, he's so FOS. c/r turn woop."
It's pretty fun when everyone decides to throw money at you. So far for the month I am up ~7.5k including -$120 donkamenting which I haven't done for ages and probs suck at. CMON 10k month pleeeeaaaaaaaseee :D:D:D
Afterthough - I forgot to mention that I've started using HEM and it's amazing so far. New HUD tilt only lasted for ~30mins :lol: It's a great piece of kit and I wholeheartedly recommend it over PT3 (which I also bought a while back :evil:) Also, I've started using a few AHK scripts, including stars assistant which has an auto timebank clicker - crucial for mixing fast and normal speed tables.
Wait, you play fast tables as well?
Man, you must be some kind of machine...
nice work on the move up!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
interesting comment on HEM, i've been sticking with PT3 but I think I'm about to snap. Maybe I'll buy HEM as well...
also, for old times sake (16th July)Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers
and as for that race:
i think I'm going to concede - I'm pulling out most of my roll to convert it from poker money to life money, plus I'm not playing during the last three weeks of august...Quote:
Originally Posted by badgers