hm......i wish some other people would comment on that other thread before i say what i had and exactly what i was thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
it makes me feel like im good at poker againQuote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
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hm......i wish some other people would comment on that other thread before i say what i had and exactly what i was thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
it makes me feel like im good at poker againQuote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
try adding a 5th table then a 6th and thne a 7th............
gabe busto?
Usually I 8 table, I was wrecked tired and doing other stuff at tne time.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
mee too.Quote:
Originally Posted by gabe
The more I've seen of higher-stakes play the more I'm finding it hard to maintain the "Poker isn't gambooling" line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
There's either some sort of game within a game thing happening here, or, well, I dunno what's going on...
Problem is, at the highest stakes, if you just play a standard game, people know what you're doing and can play perfectly against you. So you'll see them get into mindgames vs each-other.
high stakes is all metagame
Just so you know the way I played that hand sucked. If everyone had full stacks it would be standard though. I can explain if you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anosmic
Come on this thread is starting to suck. More brash claims ( making 75k this summer) and less real talk.
Teach me to win at poker?
I can't. Im sorry I just can't. I need it all the fish for myself yes yes...... my precious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
http://www.gwava.it/blog/imgs/precious.jpg
Had you not been making a shitload of button raises, T6s wouldn't have played back at you, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Is this a fairly isolated hand like the K8, or am I getting into some bigger picture stuff here?
OK about that one.
The guy on the button was a little loose so when he raised I know it doesn't deffinitly mean he has a strong hand. When I see the SB call the pot grows to a size where trying to steal it would be worthwhile. Also I know the SB doesn't have a strong hand because if he did he would have raised with it himself.
So, I go ahead and reraise with my J7. I believe that I can get the MP limper, the Button and the SB to fold often enough to make this a proffitable move. If one of them calls I plan on cbetting any flop again, trying to make them fold. Basically in their eyes I am repping AA/KK. A monster hand. This is a standard move at 400NL and all the good players do it. In fact it happens so often that it leads on to re-reraises like the K8 hand I explained earlier.
Where I messed this up was I didn't look at the stack sizes before I reraised. Had I noticed that the MP and SB were so short I would have just folded. There is too high a chance that one of the short stacks will decide to gamble and I won't be able to make them fold.
When the MP player pushes all in and everyone folds, I realise I screwed up but decide that because of the way he played the had and all the dead money in the pot I am getting the right pot odds to call his all-in. As it turns out he had a shitter hand then me and I win.
I don't think the MP was trying to play back at me, he was probably just thinking "Fuck this I'm going all in".
People like posting spectacular hands, most of the stuff you see is straightforward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anosmic
Talk about "opps" chaning to "WTF YES!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
AT least that would have been my reaction.
Ha yeah I couldn't believe it when the chips slid towards me.Quote:
Originally Posted by givememyleg
I got to another crunch decision time again today. I've been swinging all over the place at 400NL recently and I've decided that it's not worth it. PT says that I'm a 1ptBB/100 winner at 400NL and I'm not happy. I'm not convinced that I'm even able to beat this stake long term and it just doesn't feel good to be a breakeven player. This is my graph from 400NL:
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8...hunter2ry0.png
As you can see I'm basically breakeven over the last 70,000 hands. I feel like I've just wasted a whole month of play. The time has come to suck up whats left of my poker dignity and move back down to 200NL to recouperate and learn more about poker. Also it appears I make more money down here. I would rather be playing 400NL but my head just can't handle it anymore and I'm not even sure if I'm winning.
Poker sucks.
WTF is up with this??!!
Overcrowding at Party?
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...Hunter_1-2.jpg
FWIW, I wouldn't hesitate to move down.. money over pride any day of the week man.. gl, and nice thread!Quote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Yeah I agree 100%... as Fnord said in a different post:Quote:
Originally Posted by jackvance
If I'm beating the toughest table of a given limit at 1BB/100 and someone else is beating the softest table of the same limit for 3BB/100 who is the better poker player? Who would you rather be?
I know it doesn't directly apply, but go where you make the most money.
:idea:Quote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
OK. Now it makes sense.
If you add another couple of hundred to villain's stack then this looks like the Squeeze play I've was just reading about in HOH :lol:
But of course you can't c-bet someone who's all in pf.
When you called his re-raise was it just based on air v air? Did you put yourself ahead at this point?
Probably will make people think twice about going over the top of you... like ever again :)
And, yeah, great thread. Inspirational for noobs like me and I'm learning some stuff too ;)
I thought I was way behind but if you look at the pot odds I'm getting nearly 5:1 on calling the last $56. Even if I'm dominated by AJ it is still correct for me to call here because I'm getting such good odds. Factor in the chance that he has T4 or whatever and it's an easy call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anosmic
And thans for all the compliments everyone. It inspires me to keep playing.
Irish, what about playing fewer tables and improving your game at NL400 instead of moving down and still play 8 tables?
Btw, great blog, keep it up dude. Although I dont always agree with your pokerthinking you inspire me!
Yeah I've considered that but I think I'd be too bored.
Which bit don't you like?
You seem to have a solid basic game. I think you just need to get more adept at smallball play and be able to id profitable re-raise and steal situations mostly from accurate hand reading. It all adds up. This might be easier if you cut down a few tables.
In your situation I would move down to build back confidense.
Good luck man.
Another squeeze play I messed up. This guy knew I was squeezing. I knew he knew I was squeezing. Should have been an easy flop c/f.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP ($512.17)
CO ($177)
Button ($290.05)
Hero ($198)
BB ($312.70)
UTG ($200)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif. Hero posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, MP raises to $8, 1 fold, Button calls $8, Hero (poster) raises to $29, 1 fold, MP calls $22, Button calls $22.
Flop: ($92) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $70, MP raises to $140, Button folds, Here raises AI (~$150), MP calls $28.
Turn: ($330) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
River: ($330) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Final Pot: $330
Results: MP wins with 77.
Good play by him. He knew exactly what I was up to.
Just finished up a 3200 hand 200NL session where I lost nearly 1.5k$. I feel like I played really well but I just got sucked out on all over the place. Seriously it was nuts.
I'm gonna try to play more later on. My sleep scedule is all messed up at the moment so it's hard to coincide my play with the times that party is softest. It's amazing how 200NL is so much more difficult during peak hours. I just played an hour at a tough table there (where that hand above came from) where I hardly saw a flop without getting reraised. It was crazy. Good practice for 400NL though I feel, plus it was fun and challenging.
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
Played a few hore hands. I'm now down $2000 at 200NL in 2 days. 95% just from pure variance, I think I've made about 2 idiotic mistakes. If I include my losses at 400NL earlier on, it appears I have had my first -$8000 week. My BR feels like it has been pretty much decimated. Down to nearly 8k now. Things better start turning around pretty soon.
Here's a hand I just played that I thought was cool. Villian is semi-loose TAG. Had squeezed me a few time so I decided I was going to play back on a safeish flop. Worst flop possible comes out. Luckily his weak cbet signified to me that he was scared of the ace himself so I pounced all over him.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($115.85)
SB ($406.80)
BB ($197)
Hero ($421.65)
MP ($281.75)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, Button calls $8, SB (poster) raises to $34, 1 fold, Hero calls $27, Button folds.
Flop: ($80) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $30, Hero raises to $100, SB folds.
Final Pot: $210
Cool hand but I dunno why. Didn't think he would check the turn with an A so I deduced that he was on a bure bluff and called. He flipped 68. :shipit:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($200)
UTG ($200)
MP ($380.84)
Hero ($197)
Button ($202.70)
SB ($392.15)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $7, Button calls $7, 2 folds.
Flop: ($24) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $16, Button calls $16, UTG folds.
Turn: ($56) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.
River: ($56) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $53.2, Hero calls $53.20.
Final Pot: $162.40
At this point I am about to move down to 100NL. My confidence is shot to pieces. I play every hand just waiting for them to raise me, 3bet me, call my cbet, draw out on me and do a million other things which cause me to lose more money by no fault of my own. In the last 20k hands my bankroll which was, at it's height, $18,000, has been cut in half in just over a week. At this point I'm seriously considering withdrawing what I have left online ($7000) and saying goodbye to the poker world. I never thought it would come to this.
start bonus whoring again
quitting poker? downswings suck and all but you are still good at poker. hell, you even made a good laydown against my AA a few days ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
If I was you I'd withdraw $5500 and start afresh at 50NL with $1500. Playing poker with lowered confidence is murderous for the BR..
Thanks guys. The support helps alot.
I just played 4 hours of 100NL and made 1k. Maybe I'm out. Who knows I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm gonna go get some breakfast and go back to playing 200NL.
These are the first, second and last bad beat hands I will ever post (and only because they are kinda funny). This is the kinda stuff that really gets to me. I make a good read, play a hand well and still I can't take pots. I know I'm sounding like a whiney bitch right now. This is the last of it I promise.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
SB ($99)
BB ($190.61)
UTG ($266.04)
MP ($179.65)
Hero ($162.15)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, BB raises to $10, MP folds, Hero raises to $35, BB calls $24.
Flop: ($71.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $65, Hero is All-in $127.15, BB calls $62.15.
Turn: ($198.65) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
River: ($198.65) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Final Pot: $198.65
Results in white below:
BB has Jd Ah (one pair, aces).
Hero has 7s 9s (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: BB wins $198.65.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
CO ($90)
Button ($401.31)
SB ($223.14)
BB ($195.10)
UTG ($52.05)
Hero ($100.40)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button raises to $8, SB (poster) calls $7.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.
Flop: ($25) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16, Button raises to $32, SB folds, Hero is AI $76.4, Button calls $60.40.
Turn: ($133.40) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
River: ($133.40) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Final Pot: $133.40
Results in white below:
Hero has 8s As (two pair, eights and sixes).
Button has 7s 6d (three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: Button wins $133.40.
OK I'm done venting. Back to losing huge ammounts of money. Thanks for listening guys.
Welcome to my world :)
You can't quit poker, it's impossible. I withdrew my bankroll a couple months back to fund my business. I put on $200 2 weeks ago and now I'm trucking (or trying to rather) back up there. If you're anything like me, you can't quit. You will find your way back.
I've never played the stakes you play (my highest was shots at 200nl) and I've never even come close to losing 8k in a week, so take it fwiw... but stick with it man. I like the thread, and you seem solid.
Perhaps you should take a week or so off? You said you want to quit, I think time off will help this. I didn't play one single hand for 1.5 months or so (minus some gauntlet games) and I wanted to play sooo bad when I returned. It was refreshing when I started again.
Just relax for a few days, get drunk, get laid, don't think about poker at all. I think it will really help you.
GL!
Yeah you're probably right it would be impossible. I guess I'll just stick at it. I don't wan't to take a break because I know I won't be happy with myself if I don't beat this think. Taking a break means I let it get the best of me and that doesn't sit well with my personality or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by givememyleg
Pwning 100NL for a few thousand hands helped me. At least I know I can beat that!
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Here's more crazy lag shit which shows that moves like this can work even at 100NL if you pick the exact right guys:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($98)
SB ($117.55)
Hero ($142.35)
UTG ($133.10)
MP ($220.23)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, MP raises to $3, 1 fold, SB (poster) raises to $11.5, Hero raises to $39, MP folds, SB folds.
Final Pot: $55
Irisheyes, you are a good player. Dont quit poker. I would suggest taking a break, doesnt need to be more than 2 days. When you get back start at NL100 and play pretty straightforward, and try focusing on fixing all your leaks (you know things like "calling down to much", "bluffing to much" etc). Write it down on a piece of paper and reread it everytime you start a session (thats what I do). Because besides running bad you are probably playing poorer than usual (a kind of "semitilt" due to running bad, the kind of tilt that is really hard to detect), and in that case you really need to step back a moment before starting to play again.
I would suggest staying at NL100 until you can beat it for a healthy WR over a larger samplesize - 10PTBB/100 is possible at NL100 if you practise good table selection, I've done over 10PTBB/100 over 25K hands at this level and I'm by no means a good player.
Pwn 200NL, improve your play, fix leaks, win $, and move back up. Taking a break for a few days seems +EV too. gl, you know you're good enough.
PM sent btw.
Cheers for the explanations.
I really don't think you should be quitting poker, I've required a couple of explanations, because being a micro-limit ABC semi-nit myself, your stuff reads pretty crazy. Very interesting to watch though. I reckon you should move down to $100NL, and burn some lame ABC123 tight-passives. Or even 50NL, where you'd run wild. Also look at the money. You'll earn more a week 8-tabling 50NL than someone who's spending their summer break stacking shelves in a shitty florescent-lighted supermarket.
Quit while you still have the chance!
Jk dude, we both know you're very talented and you have great work ethic in poker, those two things will make you very successful. Keep it up.
Considering that I'm back at 200NL I think it is you who should quit while you have the chance!Quote:
Originally Posted by aislephive
this is a great thread. don't quit irish. you know how easy 100NL is to beat if you have to move down there temporarily or whatever
BR just over $8k atm. Still running like shit. I honestly never thought it was possible to run this bad.
I remember Iused to read of professional poker players who played with 100 buy-in rolls and had 3 months expenses put away. I usesd to think this was rediculous and that no-one could ever come close to needing that much of a safety net. Man was I wrong. Living off poker is about 50 times harder then it looks to the average amateur player. It's mentally incredibly draining.
I'm gonna try and take the weekend off from ring games. Maybe play some tournaments for fun. I came 13th in a $55 FO last night.
Coming up on my 30 thousanth hand of near constant downswing.
Dude, if you ever want vent, AIM markelby :)
Try playing less aggressively for a time. You are playing an agressive game vs fish that don't know what they are doing. 3 betting 79s vs an idiot who clearly likes his hand cannot be EV+.
You are not playing 1000nl, you don't have to be leaking chips playing lagg.
Hi,
I have enjoyed your thread (and Keeley) for a while now. Hang in there, don't quit.
I agree with take a break/switch it up/tone down the aggression. Do more reading and think about how you started playing, what worked back even when you were new to poker. A lot of your posts are about your tricky plays. I do think that they have caused you to acquired some bad habits. They are great to mix things up but perhaps you are doing them too often. Re-read the newbie circle of death. I just went through a tough stretch in my game as well, and it had a lot to do with being too tricky/unchecked aggression. Even gabe is running bad. Summer will be over soon and poker will be on ESPN again before you know it. The games should get softer (i hope).
.toma
Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryToma
Hey. Thanks for the post.
Most of my play isn't tricky at all. In fact I've been accused by people I play with (Lukie, Gabe) of not being tricky enough! I don't post the boring hands though because there just isn't much to discuss about them. They're just straightforward "I have the best hand - I bet" hands.
You could be right though. I'm searching for leaks for sure.
Had my first positive 200NL session in a long time just there: +$550 in about 700 hands. It's time to go drink again. ttyl faithful readers!
Irish, post your PT stats? I've looked but can't find any.
12/8/5Quote:
Originally Posted by Warpe
Haha a big giant F U!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by aislephive
Who do you think I am? Ultimate George?
20/15/3.2Quote:
Originally Posted by Warpe
ownedQuote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Hey IE, for some reason I never saw this thread before today, so I'll just let you know what I think. My worst downswing was 4k, so I can only imagine what you must be going through. My advice is to 1) take a break anywhere from a couple days to a couple weeks (you obv need it), 2) tighten up so that you have lower variance and you are put in less marginal situations (200nl is very beatable playing like a nit), and 3) take a win whenever you can. This means if you play for 30 minutes and find yourself up 2-3 buyins, just stop for the day. Do this 3-4 times and you will be very amazed how much confidence you gain, even though you played the equivalent of one day's worth of hands. Hope this helps a little. :)
ps: Hit me up on aim if you wanna chat.
I need an update plz kthx.
Ya thanks. What you say about leaving when I'm up is a very good idea and something I've been doing for the last while. Nothing kicks me in the nuts harder then going up 2 buyins on a table and then ending the session back at breakeven there.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdawg56kg
I have been taking a break for the last few days. Only playing a couple of hands a day. I think I'm gonna stay like this for a while and then try to get back into it. I feel like I've kinda lost interest even though my last fewhands have been positive.
Thanks for all the continued support guys. It really helps.
2 hands a day = -EV dude.
If you feel you've lost interest then take proper time away. Don't read FTR, don't examine your stats, and don't play. You'll gradually feel the pull getting stronger and stronger, and you can let yourself back in gently - have some fun, teach yourself stud or something, quad-table $5 SNGs. Remember why you enjoy poker.
dude. take a break. not something set in stone...just stop playing poker until you not only get over your downswing, but until you're aching to play again. When you feel that, don't play for a couple more days...then you'll be on top of your game. I've been reading every post here, but haven't had anything important to add until now. I'd hate to see you quit when you so obviously could be succesful at this.
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Here's to 60,000 hands in a downswing and to poker for decimating all my dreams of having a profitable summer! I guess I did accomplish one thing this summer, I managed to turn a 400NL player into a 100NL player in under 3 months!!! YAY for poker.
Cashed out about $3000 of what remained of my bankroll. I now have $3000 left. 100NL here we come. I know I can't beat that either but fuck it, lets give it a shot.
Irish - you have loads of support here and everyone is certain you will find your groove again. Hang in there mate.
I just had a 12 day vacation and despite the usual early withdrawal symptons, by the time I got back it felt great to not have that huge desire to play poker. I felt cleansed. It took another week or so before I was back playing seriously again so the break did wonders. I can highly recommend some time in the sun away from the computer to give you a different focus and mindset for the rebuilding of your roll.
You will kill NL100 once again - your roll will be replenished within a short few months - and you will be a better player for the experience.
Good luck with the challenge ahead mate... and feed off the support you have earned here...
Wrighty
If I followed correctly.. you started with $9k, cashed out a total of $13k and have $3k left.. which means you made $7k this summer. Ok, may pale in comparison to the $75k plan, but I'd say.. I wish I had a "horribly bad and disappointing summer where I made $7k playing poker".. ;)
Dude, you pwn, and you got laid!
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I'm ok really. I just want attention, you know how it is.
Took a day off yesterday again. Decided I was going to beat this shit and realised that I had been playing terribly lately. And it's because of FTR.
Since I started playing poker I have always browsed the net while playing (usually FTR). I realised yesterday that I'm loosing huge chunks of chance because I wasn't paying attention to the tables. I would literally be playing 7 tables and time out because of reading a thread at the same time.
Well today I decided that would stop. And it seems to help alot. I played (roughly) 4k hands today at 100NL and made nearly 12 buyins. Hopefully this isn't just variance teasing me and I really have turned things around.
Hopefully.
Now its time for some mad funny table chat and a crazy hand (as usual) :
(I'm lolYouFoldEX by the way)
#5019182181: lolYouFoldEZ wins $162.50
TheReflex: what an APE
TheReflex: you had monkey written all over u from the second u sat down
lolYouFoldEZ: cool
TheReflex: i can imagine what kink of donk hand you called before the flop
lolYouFoldEZ: 9To
TheReflex: laughable
lolYouFoldEZ: I don't think it's funny
TheReflex: i do
lolYouFoldEZ: ok
#5019211356: lolYouFoldEZ wins $5.50
lolYouFoldEZ: do you like pokemon?
lolYouFoldEZ: I do
lolYouFoldEZ: I think pokemon is cool
lolYouFoldEZ: do you?
lolYouFoldEZ: donk bet alert!!
#5019360793: lolYouFoldEZ wins $33.75 from the main pot with two pairs, eights and sevens.
lolYouFoldEZ: 77 is the nuts
lolYouFoldEZ: isn't that right Reflex
#5019417832: lolYouFoldEZ wins $6
lolYouFoldEZ: I had 53 there reflexd
(talking about me)
#5019597521: lolYouFoldEZ wins $5.50
TheReflex: in poker circles he's also known as a donkey
THETERMINATOR: or monkey
TheReflex: 5 3
lolYouFoldEZ: Yo reflex
lolYouFoldEZ: do me a favour
lolYouFoldEZ: go type me name into "Find a player"
lolYouFoldEZ: please
TheReflex: ill get right on that
lolYouFoldEZ: ty
sdlovell: i believe i noticed a hint of sarcasm in his reply
sdlovell: but you are hidden
lolYouFoldEZ: oops
lolYouFoldEZ: no I'm not
TheReflex: in case anyone else hasnt figured this out, he's using cheat software
sdlovell: how is that?
lolYouFoldEZ: lol am I?
TheReflex: im only sticking around because ive heard about it but never ran into it
TheReflex: i was never a believer before
sdlovell: what are the signs?
lolYouFoldEZ: XXXX how can you tell?
TheReflex: he's folded EVERYTIME ive had the nuts and stuck around everytime i didnt
sdlovell: so you think he knows what your cards are?
lolYouFoldEZ: maybe I'm just really good?
TheReflex: im still trying to figure out how it works
sdlovell: lets be clear, there are several ways to cheat, that is not one of them
TheReflex: other than collusion what are the other ways?
lolYouFoldEZ: Reflex did you know that you only raise 4.5% of your hands preflop?
lolYouFoldEZ: what do you think jakally?
jakally: i dont no 2 b honest
lolYouFoldEZ: you think I can see your cards?
jakally: unlikely
lolYouFoldEZ: I agree
lolYouFoldEZ: what do they say about this situation on 2+2?
lolYouFoldEZ: Anyway reflex
lolYouFoldEZ: what I wanted to show you
lolYouFoldEZ: I'm playing 7 tables at the moment
lolYouFoldEZ: with a combined 1.1k$ between them
lolYouFoldEZ: how much do you make a year at your job?
TheReflex: 70K
lolYouFoldEZ: I'm 21
lolYouFoldEZ: I can make over 111k a year playing 100NL
lolYouFoldEZ: sorry 100k
sdlovell: key word "can"
lolYouFoldEZ: not 111
TheReflex: and im sure the health/retirement benefits are fantastic...LOL
sdlovell: only 100k for 7 tables?
lolYouFoldEZ: no not really but then again I'm not going to do this forever
lolYouFoldEZ: so next time
TheReflex: exactly...because you'll stop when u go broke son
lolYouFoldEZ: when you want to call someone a donkey
lolYouFoldEZ: please choose a player who is actually bad at poker
TheReflex: your taking it rather personally for someone who purports to not be a donkey
lolYouFoldEZ: to save yourself from looking foolish
lolYouFoldEZ: thanks for listening, have a nice day
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And the hand:
No reads
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP ($24.85)
Button ($19)
SB ($76.45)
Hero ($102.60)
UTG ($40.80)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, Button calls $1, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $6, UTG folds, MP folds, Button folds, SB calls $75.45 (All-In), Hero calls $69.45.
Flop: ($155.90) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: ($155.90) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($155.90) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $155.90
Results below:
SB has Qs Jc (two pair, nines and fives).
Hero has Kd Ah (two pair, nines and fives).
Outcome: Hero wins $155.90.
my little brother worked 50hrs/week this summer and made only 1.6k! i told him id teach him poker, but the 'rents freaked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackvance
Agreed. I show my wife pokergraph for the day, and point out "this is where the dog was barking at me for attention (downswing).. this is when you came home from work (steady drop), this is when you started nagging me about the dishes (lose buyin).. this is when you went to bed (back to even +1 buyin).Quote:
Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Paying attention is huge. Being able to see all screens at once. Turn off the tv, close ftr. I like to post ftr after my session to recap the night. Its a good way to evaluate your play.
lolYouFoldEZ: Reflex did you know that you only raise 4.5% of your hands preflop?
- why did you say that?
That was me pretending to be cheating.
Played a shitload of 100NL today (about 6000 hands or more I think) and made some cash. Not sure how much, around the $700 mark I think.
This is what happens when you reraise someone pf a whole bunch:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
SB ($43)
Hero ($126.20)
UTG ($99.50)
MP ($422.77)
CO ($97.65)
Button ($167.55)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, CO raises to $4.5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $13, CO pushes all in, Hero calls $83.65.
Flop: ($102.65) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Turn: ($102.65) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
River: ($102.65) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Final Pot: $102.65
Results below: ]
Hero has Qh Qs (three of a kind, queens).
CO has Jd Jh (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $102.65.
And here's a funny hand from today:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
UTG ($106.75)
MP ($63.94)
Hero ($131.66)
SB ($79.40)
BB ($110.45)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, Hero calls $1, SB (poster) completes, BB raises to $3, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls $3, SB raises to $7.5, BB calls $4, Hero calls $4.
Flop: ($26) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players)
SB bets $10, BB folds, Hero raises to $33, SB pushes all-in, Hero calls $38.40.
Turn: ($107.40) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
River: ($107.40) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Final Pot: $107.40
Results below:
SB has Kh 7h (three of a kind, tens).
Hero has 6h Ah (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $107.40.
pokers so easy