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ok so i'm only 2 weeks behind this discussion, but it comes down to Implied odds. The larger the stack, the larger the implied odds to draw out from behind. Raising preflop reduces implied odds. If I raised 20xbb preflop with AA, then hands like pocket pairs and suited connectors are risking a lot of chips to catch up. If I limp in for 1bb then they are only risking 1/200th to possibly win 200bb.
Also, playing in a 200bb game you aren't going all in as much as you would in a shorter stacked game. I'm looking to pick up 10-20bb pots over and over with no contest moreso then I'm looking to win 400bb pots that I'm only a 60 to 70% favorite in. If you are simply limping into the pot you aren't picking up nearly as much on flops that you miss. Continuation bets reduce in value, and that favors worse players also.
In reality, there are many reasons to raise with the best hand, and together they add up to a very big reason; because you want to win.
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no one has anything to say on my post? :(
I am the thread killer
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1) to increase your mathematical expectation(get more money in with the best of it)
2) to affect pot odds (minimize implied odds for speculative hands)
3) to win the blinds
4) to take control of the hand (force your opponent to catch a flop/ get a cheap turn card)
5) for deception (give misleading information about the strength of your hand/ the range of hands you play)
6) to define your hand (to gain information)
7) to drive opponents out (increase your chance of winning)
8) as abluff/ semi bluff
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Thanks fnord and all for the provocative discussion.
One reason that I raise pre-flop in any game is to help establish the
texture.
I generally don't junk it up too much, and I like a game where my strong hands hold up. At my limits, they'll get paid often enough when I've isolated.
Regular pre-flop raising exacts a toll on limpers and it makes them think twice about limping into the pot with speculative hands when I have position.
