im leaning that BID is a special role and the wolves kill him anyway. but now less so after its been pointed out
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i still think that BID turns up vanilla a ton here like i said on page one. The only special i can see him being is the innocent child. And i rarely see him as a wolf taking this line, although (im saying this a lot -__-) this is my first time playing with him and he could be on that level, just unlikely.
rescind
lynch gabe
well in rillas defense, i dislike your approach for a similar reason i dislike gabes. We are out for information. The more you intentionally confuse the village, the less EV it is for us.
i disagree philly. by posting, we are giving information. the ultimate uncool werewolf move is to intentionally post nothing
This is def true...i guess its more in his case than yours, but it seems like at this point with his "Special....villager....special....villager... .eat me n1....dont eat me n1" that he is just confusing everyone and adding more to the confusion. I think he is too all over the place to be a wolf, but he isnt doing us any favors. I guess maybe he is serving as an easy target so we can examine who piles on but meh.
For drew to be a wolf, he's making a right fucking mess of explaining something that would be really easy to explain.
I mean he'd have to be setting out to be deliberately trying to be so confusing as to not look wolfy. That's a strategy that I can't even see being attempted, let alone winning.
There's no thought process at all going on here. Wolves at least have a thought process. Villagers don't think about what they're doing to the same degree as wolves... like, image. Villagers don't care about image, wolves do. Here, it looks to me like drew really doesn't give a fuck about image, because otherwise he'd at least try to make some fucking sense.
So is it this, BID?
1. Fake claim PR to bite the bullet for the team.
2. Retract to have more fun
3. Reassert the claim to stir the pot and have more fun.
4. Worry that you'll take one for the team and have no fun and eventually walk away from the claim.
hey mmm, ong is a villager
rescind BID
like, i bet you've been dying for me to be wrong about you, just so you can talk about it.
I'm reluctant to say it because I've forgotten if philly is a good wolf or not, and I'm too lazy to check, but I think philly is a villager. Everything he ssays seems to resonate with my thoughts quite nicely. But maybe he's a super slick wolf. Can anyone remember?
I'll stop. I'm sorry you're right drew I'm a villager, I'll stop trying to be funny.
wolf pool:
BankItDrew
baudib
BooG690
Hoopy
JKDS
MadMojoMonkey
SuperMonkeyFace
wufwugy
transwolf pool:
gabe
possibly BID
i've been called a lot of things in my life...super slick is not one of them
Hey I just had a great idea.
lynch wuf
in b4 mountain of text
What's Due Theory?
Someone made a joke about Viagra on the first page. I was playing along. That's the only Viagra joke I know.
Except for the one I made up about SMF's bamboo. That was all me.
:highfive:
I hedged pretty hard pre-game, and wasn't going to play at all except that rascal is :cool: and he needed a couple of players.
Expect a more light-hearted game from me, with the exception that I have Wed through Sun off of work, so probably will spend the usual amount of time on the game those days. No graphs, though. Maybe we get lucky and rascal gives us graphs with the VC's or at EOD.
Duly noted.
gabe
if he meant it, he would have told us pre-game. this new strategy probably arose out of the den chat where he was like 'oh man im wolf again last time was so tough i dunno wat do' then summat else was all 'yo playa i got this sick ass idea where you can play wolfy and eat your cake too'
i wolfed for like two hours with philly (before bikes modfucked up and restarted the game). he's probably a better wolf than he is villager. not saying he's a bad villager, just that he's probably a creative wolf.
this. he does this.
lol I love how I vote wuf in the stupid hope it makes him appear out of nowhere, and I happen to log back on at the exact moment he posts.
rescind
I kinda like a gabe lynch but I kinda hate lynching gabe on d1.
Conflict.
i have a hard time thinking he only comes to his strategy change conclusion after he sees a v pm instead of at any point after last game and before this game.
Wasn't it wufwugy who said that people always overestimate the amount of actual collusion that happens in den threads?
Isn't that the core of his argument against gabe?
There is strength to the other parts of what wuf said about the timing, but I don't buy the idea that gabe needed to be advised.
you are correct. i have said that. the collusion thing was just painting a picture and trying to be funny. it's unnecessary. gabe probably would come to the conclusion by himself.
still i would suspect that he posted it during the 24 hr period and others were like 'good idea' or soemthing. regardless, no case should ever rely on what we think went on in the den. it's way too unreliable.
@ong:
I agree on Philly. My first impression is villager knees, but on reread, I fall back to neutral.
I'm not convinced on gabe as a wolf. wuf makes a good point at the suddenness of the decision, but not enough for me to go against my own read at this time.
lynch wuf
heh
Heh heh
Obv I didn't seek den approval before hitting the thread
We need a den for the transwolves. Those who can't help looking like wolves but aren't and still want to chill
Gabe, do you plan on helping the village at all? If so, how?
But I gotta say that you are testing the limits by asking me 2 questions at once
Lynch gabe
He's a wolf > 10% of the time and he adds no value to the group. This is the best lynch by a mile.
Gabe, without actively looking for villagers, you made yourself useless. You're like that new trans person in the community that can't stop raving about it. Stop raving about it. Just be fucking trans and go about your business.
Boog you're being transphobic
I posted my first list of who I think the wolf pool is. You missed that I guess, you transphobe
I refuse to lynch gabe, because I find this highly entertaining.
Why people be hating on me for posting reads? If you got something to say, say it to my face you bitches
Philly sounds like blue meth. So pure
VOTE COUNT - Posts 1 thru 156
gabe - 3 (baudib [69], wufwugy [132], BooG690 [150])
a500lbgorilla - 1 (BankItDrew [109])
wufwugy - 1 (gabe [143])
Not Voting - 6 (GatorJH [0], Hoopy [0], JKDS [0], MadMojoMonkey [0], philly and the phanatics [0], SuperMonkeyFace [134])
Rescinded - 2 (a500lbgorilla [117], OngBonga [134])
7 is MAJ. D1 Ends at 8:00 AM EST 25 November. Votes at :00 are good, :01 are bad.
Please stop posting at EOD even if I haven't declared it night.
Note: Numbers in brackets are the post number for the vote. Please let me know if I missed any votes so I can correct my spreadsheet.
I dont like boogs attack on gabe. The emotion behind is like cloudy meth. The 10% thing doesnt mesh with the lynch by a mile and that doesnt mesh with the "go be trans" comment. Its all weird-like and I hate it and HES WEARING A CAPE. THAT MAN IS IN A BLOODY CAPE
Cuz he seems like rilla villa.
Srs business comment: Rilla has 8 posts already, that alone puts him up to like 80% villa.
I really liked his opening two posts tho, and they feel like fun/investigative rilla rather than defensive/quiet/"gah wolf again, fml" rilla
8am EST? That's like 1pm for me. Fuck, I'll have to get up earlier than usual if I'm to make deadline.
Bored now, KITTY TIME
Fuck kitty, I want Matrix music...
Thats not matrix music.
lynch ong
Lynch all liars bro. ITS WHAT YOU DO
post # 130 - boog says gabe is twtbw
post # 150 - boog bolds gabe saying hes best lynch by a mile.
Coupled with boog going after BID when bid seemed like an easy target, i can still get behind a boog lynch. Hes my only wolfy lean really. Most others are neutral.
Is there anyone we are still waiting to hear from?
Nah, I heard from your momma all night so we good
WTH ong, why havent you responded to my troll attack? Are you actually wolfing or what?
Listening to tunes before I go to sleep, is that ok?
I don't care about your "attack". In fact maybe I do because it's kinda interesting that you're trolling with me despite me not being in your townreads. I mean why aren't you trying to engage me in a more productive manner? Do you think a vote for me for a joke is going to give you reads on me? I've posted tons, you know you can read me if you try, why aren't you trying to do that?
MOD NOTE:
I can move EOD to later in the day if that is preferred. PM me if you'd like EOD to be moved later than the current 8AM EST Wednesday EOD.
I was joking about 1pm being too late. Probably sucks for USA though, especially West coast.
omg JKDS didn't instantly respond to me, obvious wolf.
You can't possibly think throwing the gamblers fallacy around here isn't wolfy.
Fine. I mean, it sounds like one of the many arguments that has gotten me lynched in the past.
I've never been lynched as a wolf, so every one of those arguments was wrong.
rescind and lynch mmm
Oh hey
Thru 35 posts ong is weird/wolfy
Going hard in the paint with like nothing. But seems a little over-aggressive even for him
Gabe probably a villager even though I have no idea what he's saying
Boog not so much
Just re read...this is where im at so far....also does the Russia America ww ever get readable?
Villager (trans?)
baudib
Bid
Gabe
gator
Wolf
Boog
Everyone else neutral. I would love to see more actual discussion from hoopy rather than one liners here and there, but if my memory serves correctly he has always kinda played this way.
Whatcha got big hoop?
Modifying your village game to improve your wolf game does seem like a nice excuse for a wolf to wolf it up large.
I think it's interesting no one is pushing me for being absent.
baudib we didnt want to encourage you
i find jkds slightly wolfy after he asks "why people hating on my reads?"
its type of thing a wolf legit wants to know the answer to. i dont see village jkds saying it like that as much
that first sentence didnt sound right
baudib we didnt want to encourage you to over-post
of course we want you posting. you and everyone
@gabe: I don't understand your vote on me. I point out that your argument is representative of a style of argument which has been used to mislynch me and you then vote me. If this is your effort at finding wolves, I'm unimpressed.
@SMF: Oops. I think I laced your bamboo but I thought it was SIU's bamboo. My bad. I got you mixed up.
re BID: Yeah, but BID is fearless when it comes to self-image.
What about boog is setting you off?
@philly: how did baudib land in your villager pile?
@Hoopy: villager knees = villageryness
@baudib: we have bad history. I'm keeping an open mind. I would love to see more involvement from you, but I don't want to deal with the hyper-dominant baudib. That said... I can't deny that while hyper-dominant baudib lynches me most of the time, he does get a win for my team, so meh. Do what you do. If I don't like it, it's my problem.
MOD NOTE:
EOD has been moved to 8PM EST on Wednesday, 25 November. This is due to the LOL mod initially picking a very bad time for EOD.
He just seemed very villagery to open d1...asking the right questions, applying pressure, and holding people accountable. I think it was a combo of his gator villager read at the same time i picked up on it with his "that's bs gabe..." Post (sorry my phone doesn't show the post numbers)
All very level one reads by me but hey it's early and I'm rusty...nobody is 100 percent village in my book those are just the people that give me any type of lean
Back after a night out with my son and catching up on the thread now.
These two back to back posts caught my eye. When all of the posting is centered around just one or two players (such as whan baud and "insert player here" go at each other) then yes there is a lot of posting, but most of it is not as useful as when players ping each other and the thoughts are more spread out among the players. Gabe should know this.