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yeah it wasn't dirty to me but the 'body slam' is going to get flagged every time, head grab part is less clear to me, says more about helmets that don't fit. dline is for sure the hardest position on the field now, knocking down passes may be the new sack in a couple years.
Get em Suh!!!
Cant wait for Fairley to get in the rotation. :licks chops:
Posted it to win monies. {acronym renton hates} . I'm a sports bettor, remember? I take +EV opportunities when I can.Quote:
Originally Posted by drmcboy
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mike vick trying to ruin the eagles season before it even begins
0-16 for the Birds obv
i didn't read the articles but lol'd at the idea he could have possibly been better off in cincinatti. I guess they don't have ESPN in prison/atlanta
nah talking about his interception and his frustation hit on polumalu
Dalton > Newton?
how did the bengals look? Game not broadcast here in columbus, I guess it was on tape delay in cincy because the game was not a sellout - surprise! Going to be bitter if the panthers win the Luck stakes.
I didn't see the game, we got the Skins and I was following the Eagles on cbssportsline.com and Twitter.
Panthers taking "franchise" QBs three years in a row would be fairly unprecedented, although this is a league that gave you the Matt Millen GM era and Al Davis' annual draft hilarity. Newton apparently seemed clueless.
A guy I follow on Twitter, Joe Goodberry, says Bernard Scott (better than Benson) and Michael Johnson have been looking good so far. Gibril Wilson, not so much. Obviously Dalton played well.
yeah scott has always looked awesome but never gets enough time, somewhat due to injuries. but it was hard to tell for real because the bengals have a trick in most preseason where we'd leave the second team in long after the other guys had 3-4 string guys in. hasn't seemed to work this year since the first team can't beat anyone.
Developments re: Eagles
mostly all positive, even in odd ways
Jason Kelce, 6th-round draft pick, got the start at center. New OL coach much prefers smaller, athletic players, and the incumbent is Jamaal Jackson, who's a hulking beast. Kelce was pretty atrocious, allowing a sack, contributing to a fumble on a snap with Vick, and drawing a penalty. This is probably good news because Jackson is a top-notch pass protector who was sorely missed last season and the OL doesn't need anymore on-the-job training than is necessary.
Danny Watkins, 1st-round pick at RG, also had a rough first quarter. The line didn't give Vick much time to get the ball downfield and RT will be an interesting dilemma until some guys get healthy.
All news was positive on defense: rookie MLB Casey Matthews looked a lot better; Kurt Coleman looks like a real player at safety and the corners played predictably well. DT Mike Patterson returned from a scary seizure and had a sack. The Eagles look remarkably deep at some key positions: CB, WR, DL and it would seem that some more minor moves could be made as starting-caliber players are on the bubble.
Polamalu might go the way of Rod Woodson next year.
example of a roughing the passer call that should not be a roughing the passer call (@1:15): Michael Vick is planted like a tulip - YouTube
... no way the league office fines him..........
should fine the official for throwing that flag
Rushing the passer is dead 10 years from now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
Rushing the passer is dying today.
this isnt a problem with the rule, its a problem with the official....if we were going to have a thread dedicated to referee miscalls, im pretty sure we'd have reached triple digits in page count by nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
agreedQuote:
Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics
this is good analysis, and given the depth of the eagles i wouldn't be surprised if the browns picked up another eagles cut or 2 (or send another late round pick over...)Quote:
Originally Posted by baudib
my friend made a comment the other day about the browns being the eagles triple A farm team, which makes sense in some respects given the coaching and front office connections and generally less talent across the board.
I was wholly unimpressed with the browns yesterday, although the defensive line showed some nice flashes (or the eagles O-line is much worse than I thought). Taylor looks like a potential beast in the making, mitchell looks good for a career nobody, sheard showed a burst off the edge although runs himself right out of any run play (not sure if this is part of the scheme or not), and rubin is still a very large man. but man, watching the browns receivers go up against the elite philly corners was kind of scary as a cleveland fan.
How was Sheldon Brown for you guys? Brown was as good a corner I've ever seen who never made a Pro Bowl. He has great instincts and is very good vs. the run and it really annoyed me that they didn't consider turning him into a safety when Dawkins grew long in the tooth.
Dmitri Patterson looked all-world for a game (against Peyton Manning, no less) last year and then got scorched by double-moves all season; he's strictly fodder.
I don't think the Eagles are a fair test for your receivers (they admittedly appear to be a non-descript group) as I am certain I've never seen a team that could put three former Pro Bowl CBs on the field at once.
Also the Eagles' DL is also pretty deep/good and the new DL coach has the ends split so wide I think I could get 8 sacks a year playing DE for them and they're getting better pressure up the middle, too. Stopping the run will be amusing.
Don't follow college football much but I try to watch Texas when I can -- always liked McCoy.
How many carries does Hillis get this year?
Inb4 Suh rips off Brady's arm and beats him to death with it.
Worth the 15 yards and a fine imo.
silly detroit fans are sillyQuote:
Originally Posted by Roid_Rage
It was a good game til the 4th quarter and that's with Shaun Hill in there and a far below average LB corps and secondary.
Not saying its going to be a different story with Stafford, and upgraded LB corps and secondary, but I mean, it should at least be a solid game all the way through.
Obviously Pats > Lions at this point, but the Lions are putting the pieces in place to be a perennial playoff/SB contender.
Some significant Eagles news:
Jeremy Maclin and Steve Smith both practiced for the first time today. Maclin is obviously a HUGE part of the offense, a budding superstar who was Vick's favorite target. Smith is two years removed from a 100-catch season so if he gets back into playing shape he's ridiculously overqualified as a 3rd/4th WR.
More importantly, they made the move a lot of us have been waiting on for a while: Todd Herremans moved from LG to fill the gaping void at RT (Vick's blind side) and put Evan Mathis in as starter at LG.
Tom Brady eating turf 5.5 minutes into the game, no surprises here.
Ben Roethlsomething's face gets uglier ever time it appears on screen. Stndrd Stlr Ftbl
This is just too fucking good lol
Preseason really is a game of hoping no one gets hurt.
Tom, Tom, Tom, you should probably call it a day.
Seriously... how is this entertainment?Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
Because I love watching Detroit lay out Tom Brady on his ass multiple times, while simultaneously watching Matthew Stafford own face.
I'm a Lions fan, any time we do good, we get pumped ldo. Too little to cheer about 'round these parts.
I'll be a lions fan this year if you become a steelers fan. 1 to 1 trade. You abandon your team, I abandon mine and we make the swap.
y/n/m?
I'll pass.
I prefer the glass QB to the raper. ;)
lol it's ok. I didn't want to lobotomize myself to become a true Lions fan anyhow.
You're a smarter man than you let on, sir.
It's gonna be a helluva season, gents.
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
fyp
and fwiw, I'm obv a huge Lions fan and Roid is tilting even me
I have a knack for it when it comes to the Lions.
I read someone compared Suh to Reggie White. I suppose he is the closest thing in this age of 250-lb DEs and 2-down DTs.
What is up with Stafford scorching the Pats D?
He has a big arm, he's fairly accurate, and he has a ton of targets vs a Pats defense that wasnt fielding everyone, but yea he had a monster game.
yeah I like Stafford, I just thought the Pats had fixed this defense this year.
I like the Lions to make the playoffs.
dude, c'mon, we're in preseasonQuote:
Originally Posted by baudib
A bunch of Pats starters didn't even make the trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by baudib
OMG PRESEASON MEANS EVERYTHING
this is why the lions are so good every year
detroit lions preseason before their 0-16 season: 4-0
patriots preseason before their 16-0 season: 2-2
draw appropriate conclusions
in all seriousness, i like what the lions are building. good qb + weapons on offense + ferocious pass rush is a winning combination. i would bet against them making the playoffs this season, though.
I'm just going to wait until the Staff Infection (that's my new nickname for Matthew Stafford...it's awesome) takes a real hit in a real game without getting hurt before I get terribly excited.
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Part of Texans' 2011 squad
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During the lockout
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There's one key difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
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just watched highlights of detriot new england
LOL SUH!
way to punch mankins in the face. you sir are making sure you get everything remotely questionable blown against you and we're not even out of pre season yet
Defending his teammate, iirc.
Mankins was in the process of dragging Jackson to the ground by his facemask after the play was over when Suh's "punch" landed (not sure you can call it a punch when the person getting hit by it barely seems to feel it)
I agree with Bob (wtf?!??! Did I just say that?!)
I like Suh's play there, and if I were Lions management, would not punish that at all. Suh is a WONDERFUL football player, wow. I'd be proud to be his teammate.
Did we ever make that survivor pool? I'm in for a $20 buying (or higher or lower, whatever). It's usually fun with you guys.
lukie, how do u like madden?
it's really good this year.
'11 was the first madden i didn't get in many years, and i hardly played '10 at all and very little of '09.
but, i sense some epic destruction of whoever gets in the way of lukieholla
by the way, not sure wtf i was thinking when i made that name
we really should make a madden thread because this has very little correlation with actual football, but until then, i'll say that carolina's offensive playbook is pretty slick.. lots of good run sets (strong close, strong normal, weak twins, several i forms, lots of good gun sets and a lot of good sb compression sets that i always want to learn to use but inevitably resort to the 2 back and gun sets blahblahblah)
Shotgun offense.
Nuff said.
A Football Life Bill Belichick - YouTube
who else is excited to see it? should be pretty cool regardless if you enjoy the pats or not.
I'm actually looking forward to it.
definitely looking forward to it. my first impression was that i was very surprised that belichick would agree to it, but after further pondering, it kind of confirms my belief that he isn't really anti-media per se, just how the current structure is set up with the media mostly caring about story line type drama stuff and i think he would rather talk about football fundamentals and history and that sort of stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikes
Oh... hello football.
Peyton Manning out 2-3months and probably for the season.
With the other teams starting Kerry Collins, Luke McCown and Matt Hasselbeck, the Texans have to be like 80% to ship the division.
ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOOOTBAAAALLLLLL?!?!?!?
Yes. Yes I am.
WOOOHOOOOOOO FOOTBALLLLL.
Also, TEXAAAAANSSSSSS!
here's to hoping the browns look respectable through week 12. they close the final 5 weeks with 4 games vs the ravens and steelers. what a retarded schedule.
CHAMPIONSHIP PREDICTIONS
AFC:
#2 New England @ #1 Pittsburgh
Patriots 21-17
NFC:
#3 Dallas @ #1 Green Bay
Packers 28-10
SUPER BOWL XLVI
New England over Green Bay 30-23
fkn pittsburgh and their absurdly soft schedule practically guaranteeing them the #1 seed
Yeah... I'm obv happy with the Steelers' position this year and they historically do well with softer schedules but Baltimore plays football too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikes
omgawdz we're so close to kickoff!!
Why is the game on syfy, usa, vs, and the nfl network? This shit is confusing.
predictions:
NFC
Eagles, Packers, Saints, Rams
Wildcards: Lions, Falcons
AFC
Jets
Ravens
Texans
Chargers
Wildcards: Pats, Steelers
Jets winning AFC East?
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no team with dirty sanchez is winning the division
It's more about the Pats declining than the Jets being better, figure they'll go 11-5ish again.
Def trollingQuote:
Originally Posted by baudib
i feel i need to re-emphasis my point
THERE IS NO WAY THE REX RYAN FOOTSISSYS ARE GOING TO WIN THE AFC EAST
sidebet, surely you'll give odds then?
2010 Pats were one of the worst 14-2 teams in history and lost to the Jets twice. More likely to go 9-7 than 13-3.
dirty eagles fans are dirty
don't forget smelly
don't forget
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let's see you cheese steak yourself outta this one
I was there. Just be thankful I didn't stab Brady in the eye when I was 2 feet from him.
0 Super Bowl wins since Spygate.
0 super bowls wins since
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wait till this year!
cool brees doesnt know how to quit
that thing on his face is getting smaller too
saying 'one of the worst 14-2 teams in history' is pretty funny.. not that i necessarily disagree with you, but going 14-2 in the modern NFL is extremely impressive and you're pulling from such a small sample of very elite teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by baudib
i'll add that last year i really feel the browns of all teams were the only team that truly and soundly outplayed the pats. watching mack consistently dominate wilfork 1 on 1 was very impressive.
with that being said, it's a new year, and i have a sort of vested interest in rooting for the eagles because of the obvious browns, eagles connections. that offensive line is in shambles though.
re: the Pats, they're simply due to decline in a lot of areas.
Start with Brady -- he has two seasons in his career in which he led the league in passing TDs and had less than 10 INTs. Those seasons are probably among the 5 greatest seasons any quarterback has had. The rest of his career is more like 24-28 TDs, 12-14 INTs, i.e. your average Pro Bowl-caliber QB's season, which is obviously great just not greatest-of-all-time great. At age 34 it's more likely he'll play closer to his career norms.
Similarly, the Pats' turnover differential was otherworldly in 2010. Everyone knows there's a huge correlation between turnovers and winning. It is also true that there is a correlation between talent and turnovers. However, being almost two turnovers per game than your opposition is simply nothing at all like a sustainable, repeatable occurrence. Last year the Pats were +28 in turnover differential; in 2009 they were +6. In their Super Bowl seasons, they were never better than +17 (which is fantastic). A gentle regression to the mean is going to cost the Pats at least two wins.
(You would win money pretty much every year if you look at the previous season's turnover differential list and bet on the teams at the top to decline and the teams at the bottom to improve.)
The Pats were also about two wins over their Pythagorean W-L last year and they luckboxed into a couple of backup quarterbacks (most notably Green Bay).
Packers gonna repeat.
i wanted to see this again
Dan Connolly 300 Pound Patriots Lineman Springs A 71 Yard Kick Off Return 4.6 40 yard dash - YouTube
So, can Peyton Manning win the MVP without playing?...maybe the NFL can retroactively give him the MVP for every season this decade.
Wooohooo TEXAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
Just got back from the game. Minus the money I lost, was a barrel of fun! :D
Steelers got lolbliterated
Sloppy effort by the Eagles, but overall a decent win on the road. You'd expect the young makeshift offensive line to have problems in a dome, and there were a lot of miscommunications. The defense got gashed on some simple counters by Jackson and Cadillac.
The good news is they got better as the game went on.
Next week will be the Michael Vick clusterfuck party in Atlanta.
lions though
LOL TRIPTANES
fucking footsissys
Not going to go on a FUCK YEA rampage here, but was a solid win for the Lions at Tampa. Was a really good game, the heat started to really affect the Lions D (and Stafford) towards the end.
Stafford starting slow was *sigh* but he turned it uuuuupp in the 2nd/3rd quarter and the defense didn't let shit happen until they started dropping back to protect against the big play.
FUCK YEA LIONS.
Detroit's a legit 10-win team.
Most surprising game was Chicago IMO. I never thought they were any good last year and the Falcons are tough.
Falcons SHOULD beat the Eagles next week -- they'll be angry, a bit desperate after getting smoked and match up well in some respects.