DOJ Werewolf

Ong - If I'm a wolf and they're villagers, am I really going to feel the need to state something that level 0 and push wagons that are going fine when they're the only ones getting heat? I really think you need to think shit through a bit more.

Think labour is a slightly better lynch than SDM for now. Think he could defo be getting coached from the looks of his posts; I like the point about him being niether quiet nor all over the place and we can always give SDM a day to prove he's going to stop lol catting and contribute properly, although I'm doubtful that's going to happen.

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Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

I thought you weren't trying to soul read?

This is why I've voted for you. If we have a spastic vomiting of words from you on Day 1, what are we going to have from you Day 6, when there is actual evidence to go on? I can't deal with that, whether from a wolf or a villager, it's excessive and inefficient and only serves to confuse.

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Yup, i think we'd be wise to aim for OB or SDM. Both seem like they'd be swinging towards noise and away from signal.

I prefer SDM over OB. I detest the bigspenda strategy of conveying the absolute minimum which looks like cat picks and lynches in this case. At least I can read OBs all over the place'd-ness unlike Keith's accusations of the past.

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Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

I thought you weren't trying to soul read?

This is why I've voted for you. If we have a spastic vomiting of words from you on Day 1, what are we going to have from you Day 6, when there is actual evidence to go on? I can't deal with that, whether from a wolf or a villager, it's excessive and inefficient and only serves to confuse.

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What you're saying here is that I shouldn't try and take info from day one posts, I should just happily string up a random because info on day one is lol.

No, stringing up obvious villagers is lol. Are the wolves going to let SDM get strung up if he's a wolf? Not when there's another easy wagon. SDM isn't a wolf, I'd put my neck on the line for that. That's as much of a soul read as I've made. I've got one villager in my list.

I'm not fussed if you're trying to string me up. I'm just a regular villager, so I don't care if I die, but from the perspective of the rest of the village, I should be considered a better lynch than SDM. I'm more suspicious of those trying to lynch SDM than those trying to lynch me.

I also realise that you want me gone simply because I annoy you. From my point of view, I'm leaving silly little internet squabbles out of the game. So long as there's the slightest shred of evidence to go by, I won't be picking on cyberenemies out of spite. I suggest you put aside you're dislike for me and try to win the fucking game.

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Originally Posted by Carroters

Ong - If I'm a wolf and they're villagers, am I really going to feel the need to state something that level 0 and push wagons that are going fine when they're the only ones getting heat? I really think you need to think shit through a bit more.

Think labour is a slightly better lynch than SDM for now. Think he could defo be getting coached from the looks of his posts; I like the point about him being niether quiet nor all over the place and we can always give SDM a day to prove he's going to stop lol catting and contribute properly, although I'm doubtful that's going to happen.

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Sorry carrots, but your day 1 argument with Keith last game was pretty level 0. Forgive me if I don't respect you too much right now as a WW player.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

What you're saying here is that I shouldn't try and take info from day one posts, I should just happily string up a random because info on day one is lol.

No, stringing up obvious villagers is lol. Are the wolves going to let SDM get strung up if he's a wolf? Not when there's another easy wagon. SDM isn't a wolf, I'd put my neck on the line for that. That's as much of a soul read as I've made. I've got one villager in my list.

I'm not fussed if you're trying to string me up. I'm just a regular villager, so I don't care if I die, but from the perspective of the rest of the village, I should be considered a better lynch than SDM. I'm more suspicious of those trying to lynch SDM than those trying to lynch me.

I also realise that you want me gone simply because I annoy you. From my point of view, I'm leaving silly little internet squabbles out of the game. So long as there's the slightest shred of evidence to go by, I won't be picking on cyberenemies out of spite. I suggest you put aside you're dislike for me and try to win the fucking game.

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But there is going to be nothing to go on with SDM's posts to tie him to anyone else later in the game.

You can't be like "Oh he posted this lolcat when a villager would have OBVIOUSLY posted and loldog in this spot. Which is why either way we can't go wrong with getting rid of him.

Let's just do it before we have to waste a lynch when there's actual info to go on.

I'd like to think SDM isn't going to continue with his lolcat strategy, he must realise it's worse than just spazzing. If it continues then he's a real easy lynch or vig target later.

Forgive me here guys, I thought the point of the game was to string up wolves, not idiots.

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Hoopy 1
Labour 4
OngBonga 1
Philly 1
SDM 6
TLR 1
fulksy 1

Ong is right about SDM probably being a villager. But everyone is probably a villager. It'll be difficult to nip a wolf on day 1 so as we're likely going to be getting a villager, we should minimize the damage. lolcatsers are a detriment to the village so it's at least a good idea to nick off SDM.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

I'd like to think SDM isn't going to continue with his lolcat strategy, he must realise it's worse than just spazzing. If it continues then he's a real easy lynch or vig target later.

Forgive me here guys, I thought the point of the game was to string up wolves, not idiots.

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So would be the hope, but thinking you'll bingo one based on parsing the words of day 1 posts is folly.

It takes days to put together the pieces of the puzzle.

SDM is like the kid with down syndrome who keeps eating pieces to our puzzle instead of his zip lock bag of fig newtons. If we don't kill that kid, then our puzzle will never be complete.

Lets just get rid of him and try to salvage as many pieces as we can.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

So would be the hope, but thinking you'll bingo one based on parsing the words of day 1 posts is folly.

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Probably, but it's not as folly as blindly going for the wagon that the wolves are likely pushing through. There is info on day 1, not a lot, but there's some. The info I have is that SDM is a villager. That is all. So anyone is a better lynch than SDM right now, it increases the chances of hitting a wolf by a small %.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

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Oops, my excel pivot table was filtered...i dont know wai?!?! Didn't have a fulksy vote either.

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Hoopy 1
Labour 4
OngBonga 1
Philly 1
SDM 6
TLR 1
fulksy 1
carrots 1

Thanks for keeping me honest and questioning my genius...guy who totally won't get modkilled tonight.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Probably, but it's not as folly as blindly going for the wagon that the wolves are likely pushing through. There is info on day 1, not a lot, but there's some. The info I have is that SDM is a villager. That is all. So anyone is a better lynch than SDM right now, it increases the chances of hitting a wolf by a small %.

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I agree with you. I just don't really care to change my vote.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Sorry carrots, but your day 1 argument with Keith last game was pretty level 0. Forgive me if I don't respect you too much right now as a WW player.

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That was me trying to balance what I do in every game of WW, argue with Keith!

There's certainly nothing wrong with lynching SDM today since we're likely gonna have to lynch him for being a useless tard anyways and can save the more meaningful lynches or vig shots for that matter for when we have the info to make finding wolves way more likely. Losing one non participating villager on day 1 is hardly "losing the game" and that tiny % you speak of that makes it more likely we're finding a wolf by not lynching him is meaningless when a later informed lynch/shot is going to get wasted by having to kill him.

The wolves aren't going to eat him, and we sure as hell want him gone long before the end game, so the day when we have an effective shot in the dark is by far the best time to do it even if the likelyhood of him being a wolf is low.

How is sdm a likely villager based on his use lolcats? He stated pregame he'd be doing it, why would being a wolf cause him to deviate from this most annoying of plans?

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Originally Posted by DanAronG

How is sdm a likely villager based on his use lolcats? He stated pregame he'd be doing it, why would being a wolf cause him to deviate from this most annoying of plans?

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Er, he's not a villager based on lolcats, he's a villager because his wagon on day 1 has taken off. When does a wolf wagon ever take off on day 1 without seer intervention?

Don't think SDM is a wolf and sticking with Labour. Btw, I'd Labour is a wolf my so fear tells me there is a greater than 75% chance that rill a is one as well.

Above post I'd = if. Stupid iPad.

I just call mine, my Angry Birds machine. Didn't know it could do anything else :/

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Probably, but it's not as folly as blindly going for the wagon that the wolves are likely pushing through. There is info on day 1, not a lot, but there's some. The info I have is that SDM is a villager. That is all. So anyone is a better lynch than SDM right now, it increases the chances of hitting a wolf by a small %.

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Being honest we've got no idea who the wolves are at this point or what they are doing. Day 1 is good to look back on around day 4 or so to look for patterns and incriminating posts. First few lynches are usually random so as long as we don't hit specials it's all good.

Right now it's about choosing the guy who won't be a bad loss to the village, that guy is the one who's posting lolcats.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

I also realise that you want me gone simply because I annoy you. From my point of view, I'm leaving silly little internet squabbles out of the game. So long as there's the slightest shred of evidence to go by, I won't be picking on cyberenemies out of spite. I suggest you put aside you're dislike for me and try to win the fucking game.

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lol, feelings

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Originally Posted by GatorJH

Btw, I'd Labour is a wolf my so fear tells me there is a greater than 75% chance that rill a is one as well.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Are the wolves going to let SDM get strung up if he's a wolf? Not when there's another easy wagon. SDM isn't a wolf, I'd put my neck on the line for that. That's as much of a soul read as I've made. I've got one villager in my list.

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Originally Posted by DropTheBanana

SDM is like the kid with down syndrome who keeps eating pieces to our puzzle instead of his zip lock bag of fig newtons. If we don't kill that kid, then our puzzle will never be complete.

Lets just get rid of him and try to salvage as many pieces as we can.

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Originally Posted by Carroters

Losing one non participating villager on day 1 is hardly "losing the game".

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Sorry for the delay, My sleep pattern is crazy messed up atm. Being the new guy i have to admit that i am finding it difficult to gain any "reads" on anybody but based on Gators new found hard on for me i am tempted on changing my vote. But at this point if i get lynched then i win either way because you guys will see you made a mistake and that i am a villager + you'll see that i'm not being coached. :)

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Yup, i think we'd be wise to aim for OB or SDM. Both seem like they'd be swinging towards noise and away from signal.

I prefer SDM over OB. I detest the bigspenda strategy of conveying the absolute minimum which looks like cat picks and lynches in this case. At least I can read OBs all over the place'd-ness unlike Keith's accusations of the past.

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That's fine.

rescind OngBonga

lynch SDM

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

They're obviously not our best lynches. Like wuf says, day 1 wagons are never wolves. I wouldn't know that for sure, but it makes sense and I have no reason to think wuf is wide of the mark.

Imo the most likely wolf candidate is someone trying to push through the easy lynches. Carrots here seems happy with either.

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I hate to say it but I agree with this man. SDM and Labour are the easy lynches right now. Easy bandwagons and lynches are almost never wolves, let's face it.

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Originally Posted by Roid_Rage

Wuf, man, I don't even want to start a shit storm on Day 1 about how I'm not posting. There isn't a whole hell of a lot to go on, and I've been busy working whack ass shifts (rotating schedule from 1st-3rd shifts in the last two weeks, resulting in a jacked up sleep schedule. Not to mention I turned 21 in the last month which means I want to get out any night I can, PLUS the NFL Draft kicked off last night and I had to DVR it due to jacked worked schedule above and I've been catching up on mah Lions.

So gtfo with your Day 1 BS. You're looking way too inactivity less than 48 hours in. If we get to like, Day 3, and I'm still pulling this shit, by all means string me up/shoot me because I'm either A.) a dumbass wolf thats trying to play the same game 3x in a row, or B.) a villager that really doesn't give a shit.

Imma just Lawyer SDM since he sucks ass. I don't like killing vets early.

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Honestly, this reeks of a Dranger wolf post. He's posted very similarly in previous games where he was, in fact, a wolf. Ironically enough, it usually involves beer and football. From the Santa Klaws game:

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Originally Posted by Roid_Rage

Ohai, I was on an epic 3 day drinking binge this weekend and watched mah Lions whoop some Tampa Bay Taint today and now am back for good. Obviously I have no way of proving that but w/e. Lynch me if you dare... AHCACKACKACAKCAKA

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I'm sure there are others but I'm in Pennsylvania right now and apparently they don't believe in high-speed internet. Anywho...

Rescind Philly
Lawyer Roid_Rage

Also, SDM is almost confirmed non-wolf. You really think wolves would allow SDM to continue posting pictures with all the heat he's getting for his stupid lolcats? I say we lynch someone that givees us some goddamn information.

Why do people keep saying that and never offer up a suggestion and what that will in turn lead us to?

Such as: if xxyy is a wolf then yadda yadda but if he's not then blah blah blah

If you say you're lynching for information then you need ties to other people and if I learned anything from last game is that holding back information (as miniscule and stupid as you think it is) is detrimental to the village winning.

I think if someone suggests to lynch someone for information they should also provide what info that lynch will turn up and that's the best way to get group discussions going.

In shame I admit that last bunch of lolcats made me chuckle, so I'll rescind but not sure who to lynch then.

rescind SDM

Omfg! People are stupid.

SDM had only 6 votes, a total noob had 4 and we need 10 to lynch. He wasn't that close to death.

SDM stated he would be lolcatting for the game before the game started and therefore would be lolcatting regardless of role.

If SDM is a wolf and I was on his team, I would have told him to carry on with the lolcats as he is prob gonna get lynched soon anyway and at if he does at least his lolcats give no clues away. I would then have either I or another wolf throw out a post like boog did, which if bought by the village can have the effect of giving SDM near villager status and let him get away with nothing but lolcats right up to the endgame.

My point...... there is no fucking way that we can conclude that SDM's behavior makes him an unlikely wolf!!!!!!!!!! But it does make him a very dangerous wolf if he is one and a completely useless villager if he is on our side. Hence why I think he is the better lynch.

So if you wanna lnch someone else, fine. But don't throw out this "SDM is never a wolf" bollocks as it can potentially fuck the village over later on.

In fact I'm willing to lynch boog just for his post above.

I disagree that SDM can't be a wolf because of how he's posting. Anybody else and I would agree, but SDM is a special case and IMO would also be a special wolf. I would expect the wolves to use him in such a way that he gets a train ran on him, however I do not think they would do it on day one since nobody would remember that shit

If he's a wolf they wouldn't have a choice. Nobody was stopping the train starting, but derailing it was an option.

And wuf, the double negative makes reading that post like reading a Keith post.

I'm going to ignore BooG because fuck him, he's Mexican.

SDM is unlikely to be a wolf, but Dan makes a great point in the above post. BooG coming after me right now is kind of lol. Like I said before, as dumb as I am, even I'm unlikely to play the same way 3x as a wolf in a row, so this makes BooG stand out from the crowd to me.

But yea, back to SDM, like Dan says, if he was a wolf, why would he deviate? He's likely to be lynched early anyways and doing so provides little/no info. BooG throwing a distraction post in there is also suspect.

Lets finish off SDM, get what information we can from today, and start trying to puzzle stuff out tomorrow.

I'm going to work from 4pm-11pm(EST) and might be going to play pool/drink with my dad for the night. So thats why I might now post until tomorrow afternoon, so chill.

might not* post

Was also referring to post #132 from Dan, him and Wuf got in a few posts before I was done :P

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Originally Posted by DanAronG

And wuf, the double negative makes reading that post like reading a Keith post.

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I guess I'm just saying that I'm neutral. I think it's very likely that SDM is a villager, but I think it's still reasonable to kill him.

Also rescined fulksy. Zero percent chance he's a wolf IMO. I would fully expect him to have posted at least once more if he was

Somebody gets lawyered tomorrow at 3pm EST. Right now its SDM with 6 votes

Okay it is guaranteed that SDM dies today, and if not today then tomorrow or next day. We should probably try to speed the game up since that's always a problem. It's hard to do so though because of a "wait for info" mentality. But since SDM is a defo die, let's get the votes up to ten and get on with it

lawyer SDM

Sorry homey, I quite enjoy playing with you, but you had to know it would go down like this

recind Hoopey, lawyer SDM

I can't be doing with this lolcat millarky.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Er, he's not a villager based on lolcats, he's a villager because his wagon on day 1 has taken off. When does a wolf wagon ever take off on day 1 without seer intervention?

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in the vaks game his wagon took off and all the wolves were on it, given he was inactive and it was pretty obvious everyone was going to want to go for him, SDM is obnoxious and its pretty obvious everyone is going to want to go for him.

im not trying to say SDM is a wolf, its day 1 i dont know shit lol. I am just saying "LOL HIS WAGONS TAKING OFF HE CANT BE A WOLF" is dumb imo

I'm the seer. GFG. Great game wolves, you did the right thing by taking me out first.

Oh and excellent work village with your "lolol let's hang people that post lolcats", right in the wolves hands. fuck.

rescind sdm

Lame shit, but could be a fake outing

http://youlookfiiine.files.wordpress...pg?w=356&h=400

if you really are the seer and you thought it would be smart to do the lolcat bit then you are seriously a moron.

also if hes a wolf i bet more than 1 wolf has voted for him.

like seriously the wolves would never eat you ever even without you doing that shit lol only thing you did was make it more likely the village would lynch you.

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Rescind SDM

Dad bailed, gotta work in the morning, shooting pool tomorrow afternoon.

Fuck you SDM, stop getting special roles so we can lynch you without a hitch ffs.

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

Lame shit, but could be a fake outing

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Yeah, not convinced, not changing my vote. To play a special and draw attention to yourself like this is like, what, what?

I am having trouble believing SDM is the seer, I think it is more likely that he is a wolf, the question is can we afford the risk right now, the cost of having the seer dead is much higher then letting a wolf slide by at this time. However being led by a fake seer is not that great either

I don't think his claim puts him solely in the special or wolf camp, he could still be a regular villager, dude has history remember. Sigh,rescind sdm

I still think we lynch him actually, just so he knows that shit don't wash after the last time. But open to other opinions.

Ok this actually increases the chances that he's a wolf, it could be a wolf tactic to wagon him and then have him fake out, it's much more likely than them throwing him under the bus on day 1 for cover. Time will tell now, if he's not the seer then it's just a matter of waiting for the real seer to out himself when he feels the time is right, and prove it by giving us a wolf to lynch.

If he's the seer, well, this could be interesting. I hope he makes the right calls, it could be redemption time for SDM. It's not so bad having the seer known early if the angel is low profile and plays a good game, we've just got to hope the wolves don't bink their two-outer.

As for who to lynch now, I'd say there's going to be wolves in SDM's wagon regardless of his true role. I'm sticking with carrots.

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Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

Yeah, not convinced, not changing my vote. To play a special and draw attention to yourself like this is like, what, what?

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Why would anyone, villager or wolf, still feel it's right to lynch SDM? Either Benny is a retarded villager or a level 0 wolf. Jeez. I could get behind a wagon for Benny now.

Ong, in answer to your last question, see my last post.

Dan, we so fucking obviously cannot lnych someone who is saying "I'm the seer" on day 1. Ever. No matter who it is. It's beyond retarded.

Also, if SDM turns out to be a wolf, then I'd put money on 'rilla and Dan being wolves too, Dan especially, since it was his post that got the wagon moving towards an actual lynch, instead of leaving more time for the village to maybe come to their senses. If SDM is a wolf fake outing, then this is a wolf plan from the start.

This game got very interesting overnight.

I think we just have to go with it at this stage.

rescind SDM
lawyer Labourhater

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Ok this actually increases the chances that he's a wolf, it could be a wolf tactic to wagon him and then have him fake out, it's much more likely than them throwing him under the bus on day 1 for cover. Time will tell now, if he's not the seer then it's just a matter of waiting for the real seer to out himself when he feels the time is right, and prove it by giving us a wolf to lynch.

If he's the seer, well, this could be interesting. I hope he makes the right calls, it could be redemption time for SDM. It's not so bad having the seer known early if the angel is low profile and plays a good game, we've just got to hope the wolves don't bink their two-outer.

As for who to lynch now, I'd say there's going to be wolves in SDM's wagon regardless of his true role. I'm sticking with carrots.

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Having a fake seer leading the village is a disaster, as it will force the real seer to out himself too early, having the seer outed is bad, since the angel will need to defend him instead of defending himself, and if the wolves happen to eat the angel we lose both of them

I dont think we can afford to lynch SDM right now, but I dont believe him either. I think the way to go right now is to let SDM live but have the village dictate the seer lookups so we have some validation on his actions.

shit just got real.

I think its very unlikely SDM is the seer, likely a wolf, poss just pulling some shit as a villager.

Recind SDM.

Lawyer Labour

We haven't got long, so back to lynch the noob...

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Originally Posted by TLR

.............. have the village dictate the seer lookups so we have some validation on his actions.

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That's a dangerous way to go though, as we potentially have the wolves leading the seer if they are active in the village. Does add an intersting aspect to looking for reads though, as the whole village is then debating two things, who to lynch and who to see(r).

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Originally Posted by TLR

Having a fake seer leading the village is a disaster, as it will force the real seer to out himself too early, having the seer outed is bad, since the angel will need to defend him instead of defending himself, and if the wolves happen to eat the angel we lose both of them

I dont think we can afford to lynch SDM right now, but I dont believe him either. I think the way to go right now is to let SDM live but have the village dictate the seer lookups so we have some validation on his actions.

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Problem is if he's a wolf he can just lie about the identity of who he looked up, though I think it's better than lynching him and finding out he actually was the seer.

Maybe give him a list of 4 people to look up so the wolves can't pick them off as easily as one person.

I don't like having the village to vote on who the seer looks up...

rescind SDM

List or no doesn't matter. SDM'll do his own thing anyway.

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Originally Posted by TLR

I am having trouble believing SDM is the seer, I think it is more likely that he is a wolf, the question is can we afford the risk right now, the cost of having the seer dead is much higher then letting a wolf slide by at this time. However being led by a fake seer is not that great either

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Just give it time. Keeping him around for a few days won't hurt.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Why would anyone, villager or wolf, still feel it's right to lynch SDM? Either Benny is a retarded villager or a level 0 wolf. Jeez. I could get behind a wagon for Benny now.

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I'm not exactly the only one thinking this is a tactic.

And I think me taking this stance should show I'm not a wolf because it would be the most blatant and ultimately damning move. Retarded villager, maybe.

At least, maybe on the retarded part.

This is the one problem with werewolf, as a villager in particular, sometimes self interest has little to do with what's in the best interests of your team. This is why I think SDM should still be lnched. If he is claiming to be the seer when in fact he is a reg villager, he is just completely fucking over his team, and as he has already done it once, I suggest we lynch him on principle, and if he is either a wolf or the seer, then that's fine, but if he is a reg villlager, then bring out the banhammer!

If SDM is the seer, then he should look up who he wants, and he shouldn't tell us who he's looked up until the angel is dead. Let's hope he either gets lucky or plays well. I don't see why he needs to say a lot if he is indeed the real seer, perhaps the lolcats should come back out. Fuck, did I really just say that?

If SDM is telling us who he's "looked up", the village should be very cautious about following his lead.

If he's not the seer, let's just hope the wolves don't bink the angel too early. The real seer can do his thing and announce himself when the time is right.

If SDM is a regular villager, he should very quickly admit he's being an idiot and putting the real specials at risk by saving his own sorry arse. He should be honest now and accept his fate.

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Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

I'm not exactly the only one thinking this is a tactic.

And I think me taking this stance should show I'm not a wolf because it would be the most blatant and ultimately damning move. Retarded villager, maybe.

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I think it's a tactic, I hope it's a tactic because it's a bad one. And I also don't think you're a wolf, I think that would be even more retarded than a villager suggesting it. But then both are retarded, if you're a wolf it could at least be a level.

I doubt LabourHater is a wolf, again we're going for the easy target that will please the wolves. Can we not give ourselves at least a small % of hitting a wolf by lynching someone on the SDM wagon? I'll change my vote to anyone who bolded SDM if a wagon develops, that's where our best chance of hitting a wolf is.

Right, I have an amazingly bad hangover today so i doubt i'll be posting much as i can barely stop myself from pulling my own head off. I'm not so sure about SDM being the seer but Ong is right we can't lynch him now. As for now turning the tables on me i can't stress enough how much of a waste that would be, Simply lynching somebody because they are new is a retarded idea, i see no basis for this but if people really want to waste a lynch then fill your boots. I'm happy to change my vote now for anyone who's on my wagon.

Rescind TLR

Think it's highly likely SDM is just a regular villager. Think as either the seer or as a wolf he'd have stopped lol catting as soon as his wagon started to form. Really pisses me off that he'd decide to just fuck over his team as a villager in this way.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he's a wolf, but I think that's only likely if this was planned and they've decided to sacrifice him in an early game fake seer ploy to fuck over the village, not totally unreasonable but less likely than him just being a douche.

Right now I'm getting the feeling Benny and Ong are both villagers. Ong is chopping and changing all over the place but not in a structured wolfy way. Almost defo a villager imo. As for the rest there's little to do a proper analysis on. Still think Wuf seems pretty off his usual villager game and a few of his posts have seemed out of character.

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Also rescined fulksy. Zero percent chance he's a wolf IMO. I would fully expect him to have posted at least once more if he was

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This bugs me in particular and I don't see how someone logical would come to such a conclusion as a villager since it was one single vote and not even that much time elapsed. This post just feels like a wolf trying to assert the villagerness of someone in order to blend in as a villager, but doing it prematurely with the pre knowledge of fulsky's role.

I'm by no means certain on this, but it's the best wolf lead I have to go on for now so thought I'd share.

Labour hater is being very nonchalant and I can't shake the possibility of him being coached right now. Fine leaving my vote there for now since the day's about to end and he's not likely to be much use if a villager by the looks of things. Happy to get some heat on Wuf soon for sure.

Total Votes:

Labour 6
SDM 2
carrots 1
Roid 1

Labour to get lawyered in 4 hours unless some major change in plot occurs...

A list of who we think should be looked up isn't great...the wolves would get a say and obv steer away from themselves.

Thinking about it, we just have to go with SDM as the seer for now, lynch the noob then see where we're at.

19 players, only 10 votes after 3 days? Super-lame.

Lynch BooG

Obvious reasons.

I can lynch boog for his sdm is never a wolf comment. lawyer boog

This is more promising than LabourHater.

rescind carrots

lawyer boog

Promise nothing personal, I think this gives us much more info than lnyching the noob.

A quick explanation of the Boog lynch would be good. From my eyes, it looks like we're killing someone more useful because we think the less useful person is not a wolf.

If he's like 3 points more likely to be a wolf than Labour, it's not a good idea to shift.

This game got exciting quick!

Rescind SDM
Lynch LabourHater

I think boog is more likely a wolf than labour, and if he's a villager, then I'm mega suspicious of dan.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

This is more promising than LabourHater.

rescind carrots

lawyer boog

Promise nothing personal, I think this gives us much more info than lnyching the noob.

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This was posted while I was posting the above post and I actually agree if we think the BooG wagon can make it in time.

Rescind Labour
Lawyer BooG

Yeah, I'm not lynching Boog.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

I think boog is more likely a wolf than labour, and if he's a villager, then I'm mega suspicious of dan.

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It's like threading a needle these likelyhoods. Boog is better for the village than Labour if both are villagers.

That labour might not be one makes Boog only microscopically more likely to be one. It's a bad decision to lynch him over the newbie imo.

Lawyer LabourHater

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

From my eyes, it looks like we're killing someone more useful because we think the less useful person is not a wolf.

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This is exactly why Gator ran off with the W last game. Just because they are useful does not make them villagers nor does it guarantee that they will provide useful and accurate information.

I can't really provide a valid argument for exactly who ties in with BooG as of now, but a late day wagon that just blasts off will be very telling when the day ends.

I think the good/bad player argument is kind of ridiculous when it clouds our stream of information. Not that we'll get a lot at this point in time but I think it's a better jumping off point.

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This is exactly why Gator ran off with the W last game. Just because they are useful does not make them villagers nor does it guarantee that they will provide useful and accurate information.

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Yeah, but everyone is like 85% villager today. You might sniff the scent of a wolf, but the wolves are probably just being quiet right now. Watching us pick between two bad choices.

How does a wolf's bandwagon explode in the final hours of day 1? The wolves would be the most well equipped to disarm such a thing.

Wow. My bandwagon took off that quickly, huh? Dranger and Dan within 17 minutes of each other trying to steer away from a Labour lynch? I didn't find Labour suspicious before but now I kinda do.

As for SDM never being a wolf, I've already explained my logic about that. What kind of wolf team allows SDM to continue posting pictures when it seemed almost certain he were getting lynched for doing so?

I go after Dranger posting a logical explanation of why he is probably a wolf. He comes back at me with "obvious reasons" which Dan apparently understands a blindly follows. There are wolves at play in my bandwagon that took off suspiciously quickly.

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I go after Dranger posting a logical explanation of why he is probably a wolf.

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Soulreads on day 1? Sorry couldn't resist.

I agree with you there's at least one wolf on your wagon. Sure that puts me in that category, but we're getting some info now. You could be a wolf, no more so than most others, but I just can't see labour being a wolf at this stage, based on the logic that day 1 wagons are rarely wolves. This seems like a pretty strange wagon to me, a lot stranger than a "mwaha lynch the noob" wagon, which for me could mean a lucky break for the village. If you're a wolf, then it's highly unlikely that the votes for you are wolves, and if you're a villager, then we can have a good look at roid, dan, dtb and of course myself.

@ 'Rilla I didn't say I think BooG is necessarily a wolf. That's why I can't really give a concrete argument against him.

@ The rest of the village Honestly, it's the situation that I'm voting for and not BooG in particular. Even if Gator (or anyone else for instance) had of been bolded this late in the day a couple times I would make the same argument.

While we're still hunting for wolf #1 the way people enter and leave bandwagons is probably our best source of information and this situation is perfect for providing an opportunity for us to start dissecting things like that.

I hate it for BooG that he might get caught in the crossfire on this, but his wagon + results + tonites actions is going to be very helpful in starting to piece things together.

Please BooG, reiterate your 'logical explanations' for lynching me? Because I have (and have had) reasonable explanations for not posting RIGHT AWAY on Day 1 in this game and in the past? Yes, I was a wolf in the previous two games it happened, but that isn't why I didn't post a shit ton on the first day. I actually WAS watching a football game and getting drunk in that one game (was watching Tampa Bay get owned by the Lions BOOM.) and this game I had to work and was watching the draft. Not that hard to comprehend?

As for your wagon taking off this fast, not my fault you tried to get a wagon going on me and I retaliated by jokingly bolding you (thats my 'obvious reasons' you tard. (OMG DID I JUST OFFEND SOMEONE))However, the fact that it did take off fast DOES give the village information and I for one would be happy to see it polished off now that it's going somewhere, would give the seer (be it SDM or not) some targets to choose from to look up (obviously those on the bandwagon) and your death itself gives us information.

Chances are, you're getting defensive for no reason, since it seems like the day is going to be over within the hour and there's not much chance of you overtaking LabourHater.

<3 you, my Mexican-Terrorist

I mean, your post attacking me would make sense, if I wasn't a thinking person and new to WW. But I don't think I'm going to go for the Triple Crown of Retard and try to pull the same stunt 3x in a row by linking myself being a wolf, not posting, and including beer and football as an excuse. I guess I could as some sort of 'elaborate level' but I feel like you should give me more credit than that.

LOL at Labour taking the number one spot then magically a bunch of wolves quickly fabricate a boog wagon

lawyer labour up

I hate the speed the BooG wagon just grew at there and don't see any great reason for it.

If Labour's a wolf, this is looking pretty awesome already and those 4 snap wagoners will need to be scrutinised pretty hard. Well 3 of them will, I still think ong's a villager.

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LOL at Labour taking the number one spot then magically a bunch of wolves quickly fabricate a boog wagon

lawyer labour up

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If labour's a wolf I'll be even more suspicious of Wuf.

lol i think its moer likely that wolves are voting for fellow wolves than not....everyone said that wouldnt be the case last game after we were doing it, yet thats exactly what happened again last game.