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hahaha touche im one of the 5%, always knew i was a special...thats why i rode the short bus.
Game of Thrones is the fucking SHIT imho. If you can keep track of the characters (seriously not that hard if you get into it) then it's easily the best series I've gotten my hands on.
Just read Ender's Game over the past three days. Great book!
Thank you people of ftr
found this whilst browsing today ...lots of free ebooks from the publisher. some are probably dire but some googling for reviews may dig up some decent books
Books - Baen Books
I've read this book easily 10 times over the last 5-6 years and I can never decide what my favorite part is. I really love his time in the Battle School, but when he gets to Command School it completely ups the badass level in the book.
Also Peter and Valentine doing their own thing as 12 and 14 year olds is siiiiick. Blows my mind every time lol.
Are the books after Ender's Game any good?
I haven't read the entire series, I've actually only read book 3 on the Ender side of things (they follow Bean's point of view in another side series thing) and totally skipped book 2, but book 3 was pretty solid. I've just been too lazy to go out and borrow/buy any of the other ones.
Nothing compares to Ender's Game from what I've heard though. And other readers have told me that Bean's Story is good to meh.
Just finished The Good Soldiers. It's a very good but profoundly sad journalistic account of "The Surge" in Iraq.
I've been reading 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' based on some discussion in some thread I can't remember around here. Someone said that the Scientific Method was flawed in some way because there are an infinite number of hypothesis capable and not an infinite number of ways to test/verify them.
It is definitely a very thought-provoking book and it welcomes anyone who is up for the challenge but I have to say I have many, many issues with this book.
I think the author says it best when he talks about his alter-yesteryear-ego's experience reading philosophy where you accept the premise of what they're saying and then get frustrated that they simply go in the wrong direction.
I think the most striking aneurysm this book threw me was when his alter-yesteryear-ego Phadreus tries to define Quality. The build up to this question is pretty long and the author does well to build you into his frame of mind (though I think it's flawed severally in places along the way) but he tries to say "We have proved that quality, though undefined, exists. Its existence can be seen empirically in the classroom, and can be demonstrated logically by showing that a world without it cannot exist as we know it." Every point of this frustrates me to no end.
His proof is that he tells you about a class he demonstrated Quality to by telling them "You know what quality is, here's a shitty paper and an awesome paper, who can't tell the differences?" And claims that everyone knew. Of course they did, it's all fiction. Every character in the world of this book fits his philosophical waxing and wanning and it's irritating in the first degree.
He continues his proof by supposing a world without this undefined, but known, Quality and that he gets, in my opinion, strikingly incorrect.
Finally, he says that you can't define quality. It took me 1 page of reading about it and I defined it.
I'm held by a sort of Stockholm Syndrome to this book. I'm just trying to survive it before I can crack open Cat's Cradle.
It's definitely a read to get some blood-flow upstairs and if you find yourself agreeing with any large parts of it, I would love to figure out how that could be.
Just finished Amazon.com: Aloha from Hell (Sandman Slim) eBook: Richard Kadrey: Kindle Store.
It was a pretty awesome read although the ending was a little meh. This whole series has been a good read. It's nothing thought provoking but a great, fast action packed read. If I had to describe the series it would be sin city meets angles vs demons (paradise lost).
I just started reading Catch 22 and not sure how I feel about it. A little too wacky but I'm hoping it gets better.
Under the Dog, Under the Wolf - Adam Rapp
I also need to finish the dark tower series. I'm halfway through the final book (like 3 months ago) but I'm so angry at Steven King I refuse to read it. Books 2 and 3 (maybe 4 too) were amazing. Everything else sucks my balls.
So, as a proposed OP, can someone read the sandman slim series? I thought the portrayal of Lucifer in book 2 was easily one of the best characters in any book I've ever read.
I recently read salmon fishing in the yemon. It's written in the form of several diaries and interviews after an event which you don't find out about until the end. It's odd, but very well done and a surprisingly good read.
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance got much better and I'm glad I stuck with it. In fact, a lot of the issues that I had as I was going along contribute to him going insane so I got a measure of satisfaction from that. When you look back, everything he says from the sciencey side of things is so overwhelmingly on the mark that I have to assume my qualms with his philosophical bits are outmatched.
It even spurred me to read Henri Poincare so I could get another set of eyes on his idea of Quality. And through the process, quality has become a well-defined word for me.
Quality is a function of iterations. The difference between a high quality paper and a low quality paper is that the high quality paper represents a history of more iterations - of more papers being written. The author has either learned, or gleaned, or developed on his own techniques which have been developing since papers have been written.
Think of the difference between cave painting and the mona lisa. The cave painter has weaker tools and weaker techniques. He has no idea about representing 3D in a 2D medium, perspective, lighting, etc etc. Over his lifetime, his tools may never improve - he'll always be using his fingers and those same crushed berries; but the more and more he paints, the more and more things he tries, the more and more things he sees work and fail, and over years his painting skill and style itself may evolve. The stuff he'll do at the end of his life will be of a higher Quality than the stuff he did earlier in life.
Now let's pretend that one caveman painter develops a new technique for painting which is a huge step forward. Let's say he discovers that you can paint four legs instead of two and it really gives some liveliness to the deer. This is a technique which can be recognized as quality, is the fruit of this artist's painting after painting, and can be taught to other painters. Now when some young painter begins painting but tackles the new four leg technique immediately, he'll be painting at a higher quality than another young painter who ignores the state of affairs of art and is just hammering away back at square one. Though the young painter hasn't himself put in all the iterations to develop his quality, his work carries with it the legacy of all the work which lead up to developing the techniques.
The same will be true for the tools. As you keep building and using tools for whichever task, rebuilding them everytime they break or fail, you'll become better at pulling together the tools, better at designing them to complete your task more effectively, etc etc. When you swing an axe today and compare it to a rock hand-ax from 50,000 years back, your axe today carries with it the legacy of all those steps in axe technology that we've enjoyed from years and years of ax-making. Your axe carries the legacy of the hand-ax 50,000 years back.
So something of higher quality is something which carries with it a greater legacy of improvements which implies that it carries a spirit of the most iterations since its form became.
It even appropriately tackles the issue that sometimes it's difficult to discern the better quality between say an iphone and a droid phone as both represent in many ways identical legacies of all the technologies which go into them.
reading catcher in the rye for the first time gl me
reading bonfire of the vanities right now and its fucking awesome so far, beautifully written and very funny
Anyone have a good sci fi rec? I've read the Ender Games Series, most zombie books, the passage, sandman slim, etc...
Hmmmm, ready player one seems the obvious choice from 2011 sci fi releases
Liar's Poker - Michael Lewis
fun read for anyone who works in trading, is just interested in investing, or historical events on wall street
City boy is kinda like a newer version of the same thing and also a good read.
I'll check out these other recs after Ready Player One. 15% of the way in. I wouldn't say it's amazing in the sense of original sci fi but that's not the point. It's sooooooo nostalgic for anyone who grew up near the 80s or early 90s. Fun read so far.
SF:
Re Ender - Have you read the shadow series too? [Bean's story] I enjoyed it a lot personally.
Greg Bear - Eon, The forge of God + The Anvil of stars. I've read a lot more of his 80's / 90's stuff, but those were my favourites.
Larry Niven - Ringworld. Also his colaberations - The mote in God's Eye, Lucifer's Hammer, Oath of fealty, The legacy of heorot, Footfall. All with Purnelle iirc.
Steven Donaldson's Gap series is awesome imo. Probably depends if you like his style. [Chronicles of Thomas Covenant]
Lots of other stuff too I'm sure, but take a look at some of those. Those Greg Bear ones are excellent.
Fantasy:
For those of you that enjoy good fantasy, read
"The Name of the Wind" by Patrick Rothfus. Then of course read the "The wise man's fear" because the first one is just awesome!
Can't say I remember what happened in which book of the Ender series, but I have to say it's one of those reads that planted a disquieting feeling in me and some profound thoughts that will never leave me.
The old Starship Troopers book is pretty awesome.
I need a trashy novel or two for a holiday.
Things that I have already read and like that would fit hte bill include:
Lee Child's Jack Reacher series
The girl with the dragon tattoo series
Stephen King/Dean Koontz stuff
John Grisham stuff
I also have a book voucher that would get me two books. I don't want anything too serious or heavy. I don't want to learn stuff or have to think too much about it, I just want to be entertained. Any recommendations?
The Godfather.
Just picked this up, along with some others at Barnes and Noble a couple days ago. Fucking awesome so far and I'm barely past the wedding scene.
Or if you want something fun and badass, Sandman Slim. It reminds me a lot of the Sin City episode with Mickey Rourke, but as if Mickey Rourke were a badass caught in a war between heaven and hell in LA.
Jesus fucking Christ only one store anywhere accepts national book tokens gift vouchers. How fucking stupid!
Not sure if I should get 2nd in series of Sandman Slim as well as if first is so good I might wanna dive straignt into the second, but it's a risk in case I'm not that into it.
Also getting enders game as so many people seem to rave about it.
So there's three of them...all quick reads. The second one is possibly one of my favorite reads in the last five years due to its portrayal of Lucifer.
I can understand you not wanting to read Hunger Games but the movie is coming out and you asked for some light reading.
World War Z is a pretty cool book about zombies that is very realistic and chronicles the zombie war through tons of different characters with no real "main" character. Light reading in the sense that you can read a few accounts (each is a few pages but keep in mind I read it on a kindle) and put it down and then come back later.
I'm about 60% through ready player one and if you've ever played video games (especially mmorpgs) and/or liked geeky stuff in the 80's, it's pretty awesome and nostalgic.
Amazon.com: Michael Crichton: Books, Biography, Blog, Audiobooks, Kindle
air frame
disclosure
rising sun
j park
prob his best. whatever you do, don't get the pirate one!
or
Amazon.com: robert parker: Books
it is a series but each book is more or less self contained, you don't need to finish it. start at the beginning just because they go slowly downhill after book 10ish.
also if you really want trashy obv go with
Amazon.com: Flowers in the Attic (Dollanger Saga) (9781416510888): V.C. Andrews: Books
Read lots of Michael Crichton, but he peaked with State of Fear, nothing else I read of his will touch that, yet I head into each new read with the huge expectation that it might, which leads to eternal disappointmen.
yeah state of fear was a good one too
Enders Game.
Wow!
Highlight of my holiday so far.
Yeah buddy. They don't get much better unfortunately. :(
So the rest of the series are a disappointment? The first did set a high bar.
None of them are bad. Just not on the same level.
rest of the Ender series is very different, I think they are much better but I guess it depends what kind of person you are. the bean series is eh.
it's like this:
matrix 1 = Ender 2-4 (lots of moments to questions the meaning of existence, amazing story)
matrix 2 = ender's game (LOUD, AWESOME NOISES+5 cool minutes in the room)
matrix 3 = bean, other random book (couldn't live up to standards set, didn't)
I miss it now its gone.
Its not gone dude... Ive re-read EG more times than any other book I own. Easily 20+ times since I was 11. I REALLY like the first book of Bean's shootoff. Really cool to see the battleschool from another angle. Agree that ender shootoff is.better overall tho.
Always wanted to throw my more-literary-leaning hat into this ring but never felt like I had the time to bother.
Anyway, I'm halfway through Lawrence Shainberg's Crust, and it is a very enjoyable/unique/quirky read. It's a very short novel about nose-picking in the very near future--in a time where "Nasalism" has gotten to be ubiquitous, lauded and controversial as the internet.
Like I said, it has a very quirky and appreciable voice; it's a great satire on intellectualism (with all of the academic debate that's constantly cited and quoted on how life-changing it is to pick your nose); and it's a fresh perspective on our web culture, especially in how it affects writing.
Of course, being a very short time/mind commitment makes it very easy for it to be "worth" the investment.
Just finishing Dan Browns The lost Symbol. Basically it's the 3rd in the Da Vinci Code series. Pretty good. Kinda bummed it's almost over. Fortunately I only have time to read when I'm going to bed and am usually exhausted so I'm only getting through 2 or 3 pages a night before I pass out. Should last me another few days at least. Apparently they've made a movie of it with Tom Hanks playing Langdons character again.
awesome avatar...
just read ishmael by daniel quinn...highly recommend, very compelling book where a talking gorilla teaches the narrator how to save the world. The book is almost entirely conversation between the two of them, and often times its just the gorilla pondering with the narrator as a straight man of sorts, but its definitely worth a read.
Currently reading World War Z by Max Brooks (Mel Brooks son) and its awesome so far.
tad williams' memory/sorrow/thorn series. I hadn't read fantasy for a long time, then a friend left dragonbone chair at my place ages ago and said i should read it. A year later i got around to it. Now i'm midway through green angel-storm. I'm enjoying it a lot.
Recently finished Escape From Camp 14, bought it after wuf linked to an article on it a few weeks back - the one about the north korean guy.
Hell of a read, although over 1/3 of the book is simply explanations of how much of a failed state NK is.
Just finished reading "Rendezvous with Rama" by Arthur C. Clarke, never read much sci fi before but it has some really interesting ideas in it. Would definitely recommend.
Thought this might be worth a bump for all you Dark Tower stans:
Was at the library the other day and saw that Marvel has done a graphic novel series adaption of Dark Tower.
I have to 2nd the Niel Gaiman suggestion. The entire Sandman series is making me a little creamy just thinking about it. It's a graphic novel series (that's adult comic book for you heathens, and no, there's no porn, just some gore and adult themes) that hits every bit of amazing that any any artist could hope for. The series won awards in categories that no illustrated novel had ever won before.
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance is much better upon re-read. The use of chapter breaks in this book is particularly effective. Every chapter has a real-world and an internal dialogue that mirror each other in a way that deepens the book significantly. I find that the correlation is lost when I read a few chapters non-stop, without piecing it all together along the way.
by Robert Heinlein: Stranger in a Strange Land, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, The Man Who Sold the Moon, etc. If you've read a bunch of Heinlein, Number of the Beast is a joyride of personalities from his prior works butting heads.
Robert Jordan's epic Wheel of Time series is by far the most involved, complex, and engulfing fantasy fiction series ever. The cast of characters is easily in the hundreds. The final book in the series is due to be released soon. With 14 installments (the shortest of which is 672 pages), plus a prequel (334 pages), this will keep your reading time full for quite a while. I intend to re-read them all again in preparation for the final book release.
*side note: This series is so good that I almost got fired from a job for showing up late over and over because I couldn't put the book down when it was time to leave.
The Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind is also a good 13 book series if you're into stories that you can keep devouring. This is a solid series that was brutalized as a TV show, so don't let the show ruin you on these books.
by Kurt Vonnegut, but not yet mentioned: Bluebeard
Vurt by Jeff Noon is a trippy, futuristic drug-culture mindwarp. I only recommend this if you are into books that make no sense, but are somehow still gripping. There's nothing deep to take from this one, but it's so unique that it stands out in my head even though I only read it once years ago.
by Tom Robbins: Another Roadside Attraction, Even Cowgirls Get the Blues, Still Life with Woodpecker, Skinny Legs and All, Half Asleep in Frog Pajamas. These are all fun, character-based novels with zany antics and plenty of lol moments.
world war z was epic....seriously read that shit
alas babylon by pat franke is awesome...story about an untouched community rebuilding after a nuclear holocaust....
recently read I am legend by Richard Matheson, its only like 160 pages but its fucking awesome as hell
finally finished Bonfire of the Vanities by tom wolfe....its a good read but the ending left something to be desired in my opinion, and it kind of drags on for 600 pages, still think i'd recommend it
but the most recent book i just finished was Storm of Swords from GRRM, the third book in Songs of Ice and Fire (Game of thrones)...it was incredible, best of the 3 i have read so far by a long shot....it was fucking awesome, the man is a genius.
also @ mojo monkey....i'll be sure to check out that KV book, and i also have to second Heinlein ...Moon is a Harsh Mistress was a fantastic book
edit- i also read cormac mccarthy's The Road...it was good but it was pretty much just 300 pages of drowning with brief respites where they lift your head above water so you can gasp for air before being plunged right back down into the suffocating sadness that is their existence.
Reading latest jack reacher book. I know its a bit cheesy but I love it.
Finished reading "The Apocalypse Blog" series by Melanie Edmonds
Currently reading "Ascension Day" by John Mathews (legal thriller)
I've been reading all the Rebus novels by Ian Rankin.
I'm gutted I'm on the final book!!!! noooooooooooooooo!
With hunger games, do I need to start on number 1? By chance I have copy of number 2 but not sure whether to start it.
If its anything like Harry Potter, you'll be ok.
The 1st is very entertaining. The 2nd is tolerable but highly predictable. The 3rd is fucking awful.
Enders Shadow is awesome.
That was as good as Enders Game.
I can't wait for the rest of the bean series.
Let me summarize the 2nd and 3rd hunger games for you...
<charlie brown sad music) Katniss: I let everyone down all the time, and times are sad, and I have lots of sad feelings and guilt </charlie brown sad music>
The last Wheel of Time book is 100% written and the release date is January 8. I've been slowly re-reading the entire series (finished book 10, I'll start book 11 in November). I'm looking forward to reading the most recent two books for the first time (three, counting the upcoming book) -- I decided not to read them until the series was finished.
It's been my favorite fantasy series for a long time, I really hope the series has a cool ending.
Watched the movie last night. Was meh. Won't watch a sequel. Had so much potential but failed to live up to it. Never read the book and no longer intend to.
Where are you guys finding is a great place to read? This is a serious question, I'm having a hard time finding the time and place to read the myriad of books I want to get through myself. I promised myself 3 months ago I was going to try and read a book a month, which I don't think is tough to do at all. But I drive for my commute, I don't seem to fly anywhere or take much vacation time. I'm gathering more books now than I am reading, and the list is getting longer.
If you have kids read after they go to bed with some sort of alcoholic drink to help you stay put.
I actually get a decent amount of reading done on the shitter.
Giving my 'O' face about end of WoT series.
I understand that there's a generational difference between us, but I've been best at getting a lot of reading done when I have very easy access to what I'm reading at all times of day and squeeze it in in the little gaps of my life. I've tried to keep manuscripts in my back pocket, always have a book I'm reading on my phone, have books online, etc. Of course, a lot of this success also correlated with either living in NYC or having a 4 hour commute (once you add up car to train, train to bus, bus to city, subway to class), but I also get a ton of reading done on the John, in bed when I'm trying to wake up/fall asleep, between innings, etc.
In short, I'm addicted to stimulation, so having something to keep my attention when I'm lying in bed trying to wake up = werd. Blocking hours out of my day to sit still and read black words on white paper = fuck that.
I also recommend keeping more regular goals than a book a month. Promising to just open the book once per day (or 6 days per week or something) will probably do you more good. This is what I do with working on my novel. Just open the document once every day and read over the last paragraph I wrote and think for a few seconds about what I might write next. I'm never ahead or behind on this goal; I never feel like I'm forcing myself to do it if it feels like a chore that day (if I don't feel like it, I put it down and move on; if I'm in the mood, then I go to town on it as hard as I can). I'm just in a regular habit of having it on my brain, and if my heart's in it, then I'll string together plenty enough solid sessions that it gets done. If your heart isn't in it, then move on to a different book (not all recommendations are for you at all times).
I've recently finished "Life of Pi" by Yann Martel, which is definitey worth a read, in my opinion.
I've just this minute ordered "Ender's Game", so am looking forward to reading that.
The entire enders series is available as pdf's if you want to get started.
I really need to buy myself a Kindle.
You can just read them on your phone or laptop/pc or w/e.
I can pm you a link to all of the series if you want.
Speaker for the dead is a great book. I can see how someone could be disappointed if they were looking for more of Enders Game as its very different. It possibly helped that I read Enders Shadow first which quenched my thirst for more battle school. But I'd definitely recommend it. It's thought provoking and entertaining, albeit at a slower pace than Enders Game.
Rage, the link is on my home laptop so can't pm you until this evening.
So I've pretty much stopped working at work and instead spent most of every day reading. In the last month I've finished the entire of the 4 Enders game books, ie the 4 up to children of the mind and also the 4 bean books. The two battle school books were by far the most fun but reading them all gives a nice sense of closure. I would say if you like Enders game, definitely read Enders shadow. If you don't like speaker for the dead then don't bother with xenocide or children of the mind and if you don't enjoy shadow of the hedgemon then skip the next two in that series as well, but personally I enjoyed all of them. The only annoying thing in the shadow series is they don't give enough of the strategy that all of the kids use in the wars and as they are all gifted strategists it would have been interesting to read but I guess coming up with amazing strategies and counter strategies would be a tough ask for anyone.
Toying with starting Ender in exile today. Definitely skipping war of gifts as it looks a bit Shit and just seems like the religious nut that wrote them wanted to write about religion. Speaking of which, its disappointing to find out Card is a homophobic religious nut, but that didn't spoil any of the previous books in spite of it clearly being demonstrated in the books, his religious leanings that is, not his homophobia.
Does any one of you fags know a good selection of Bukowski poems? I probably have to get a complete works volume because the selected-poems books seem very arbitrary and contain a lot of crap that I would not expect someone to "select", and omitting stuff that should obviously go in.
I've recently been reading the Philipp K Dick short stories. Some are a bit more cheesy than you would expect, but they're still great.
my wife loves the novels OSC did about mormons and all the other weird shit he writes about FWIW. she is easily the least religious/spiritual person I know. I have never tried any of the non Ender World ones.Quote:
Definitely skipping war of gifts as it looks a bit Shit and just seems like the religious nut that wrote them wanted to write about religion. Speaking of which, its disappointing to find out Card is a homophobic religious nut,
Just finished Ender in Exile. Was OK I guess. But I think I'm done with the series. I read Ender's Game twice and will prob read that again some time, might even reread Enders Shadow, but aside from that, sadly, I think I'm done with it. But it certainly was an interesting universe to escape to for a while and I shall miss it.
Sandman Slim is everything I look for in a novel. Good shout Bigred.
The last Wheel of Time book, A Memory of Light, was released this week. The previous two books were pretty amazing, I'm damn excited to see how this ends!
Short stories by Edgar Alan Poe, I really liked them, stories like The fall of the house of Usher, Black cat are very exciting.
Black Cat is great, it's a classic for a reason.
If you're familiar with Edgar Allen Poe's "normal" work, you should seek out his Laudanum-induced stream-of-consciousness pieces, just for fun.
I want to say "Into the Maelstrom" was one of them... I read it like 15 years ago... So it might not be as surreal as I remember it.
If it is what I'm thinking of, then I remember that there were a number of times where a single sentence would run on for nearly a page without any punctuation. It wasn't easy to read, but I don't think the point was to engage in a logical pursuit.
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