Much more accurate imo. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by will641
Aaron Curry FTW
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Much more accurate imo. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by will641
Aaron Curry FTW
The Lions are resuming talks with the Broncos about Cutler.
FU "Bus" Cook, FU right were you discharge anally
yo yo yo, Peppers to NE wat
[quote="Jack Sawyer"]yo yo yo, Peppers to NE wat[/quote
I hope so. Front 7 would be so sick.
under the assumption that the pats would have to send over a high pick (maybe the one from KC) AND pay a huge contract, they'd be better off not doing it. that's the problem with trading for a bigtime player-- you have to give up a high pick (or picks) and pay a huge contract. like you're giving up the ability to draft and sign maybe 3-4 quality players for one superstar (hopefully). thats why the pats and other successful teams very rarely do it.
gg Donte Stallworth
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by Lukie
im having difficulty reading between the smiley faces and cant find the time or desire to find read about what happened unless someone wants to give me it here.
35 yrs in prison or sumtin?
I wish I had more time so I could MS paint this for youQuote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
short version: donte stallworth fails at football and life, and so does phil savage.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
i think someone died in there too and stallworth is going to get charged with dui manslaughter, which carries a 15 year max sentence. i think it's unlikely he spends more than a year in jail, but he's in big trouble. blood tests, de-facto confession, witness, etc.
Hey Bob,
Apparently we picked up one of your old D-linemen: Shaun Cody. Tell me about him please?
All I know about him was pre-lions stuff at USC.
He's not terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ensign_lee
Our new logo got leaked today
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...ally-revealed/
I like the new logo. Maybe the meaner lion can do the same stuff for y'all that the meaner cardinal did for the Cardinals?
theory: the Lion's second round pick (#33 overall) is more valuable than their first round pick (#1 overall).
There actually have been some studies that claim the most valuable pick in the entire draft is like the 27th pick in the 1st round or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
Various people have tried measures of success of a players, and that's really the hardest part... how do rate steals, busts, trades, players on new teams, etc... it sound simple, but plenty of complications arise.
The main reason it's more "valuable" is due to the f'ing retarded structure of the contracts given to the top 5 picks... (getting progressively worse as you get to the #1 pick); the latter 1st round picks still get a chunk of money but are an INCREDIBLE steal compared to the top of the draft. Basically the decrease in talent doesn't fit the decrease in $$$ paid in contracts. The Lions would be pure geniuses if they could find any way to move out of the #1 overall spot.. even if it meant dropping down for a 4th rounder... the money saved on the player would be worth it.
I'm still waiting for a franchise to have the balls to just blatantly stall and let other teams pick in front of them... but that's not likely to happen. The Vikings CLAIMED they did that intentially in the 2003 draft, but I think there were several sources that claimed they actually got stuck on the phone with the Ravens or something.. and got lucky landing Kevin Williams.
Uhh, draft the guy, and then let him sit out and pay him his league minimum.
If a team were interested in playing hardball right away, and nipped the problem in the bud, they'd set a standard and example for the rest of the NFL.
Although, here pretty quick the NFL will obv adopt the NBA CBA Rookie payment rule. That was pure genious.
The money given to first picks over the years have been idiotic. Somehow its gotten the notion that its a lottery: get picked first and you won, humongous contract, gg need to prove yourself capable of playing with the big boys.
We need a ton more Tony Mandarich's and Ryan Leaf's (and possibly Alex Smith's) before someone gets to his senses and actually pays a ROOKIE rookie money.
Say you picked Joe Staley in the first round this year. Numero uno pick. Give the man a $6~7M, 3 year salary plus incentives since he is fucking rookie, and if he proves himself worthy of whatever bigger money, at the end of 2nd year you reneg and give him a big fat 7 yr extension a s reward. Club does not lose money, player does win a lot of money based on his actual performance.
holy shit, they are discussing it? how can it not be obviouser and get immediately implemented?Quote:
Ryan[12] scored a 32 on the Wonderlic exam, tying Louisville's Brian Brohm for the highest score by a quarterback in 2008.[13][14] He was drafted third overall by the Atlanta Falcons in the 2008 NFL Draft[15][16][17] He was the second first-round pick of the year to sign when he agreed to a six-year contract on May 20. The contract had an overall value of $72 million and contained $34.75 million in guaranteed money.[18] The contract made Ryan the 4th highest paid player in the NFL behind Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, and Carson Palmer, despite never having played a professional game.[19] This helped fuel the discussion regarding whether rookies in the NFL were overpaid and if there is a need for a rookie salary cap.[20] In addition, Ryan has signed endorsement deals with Nike[21] and AirTran.[22] He entered the 2008 season competing against former starter Chris Redman for the Falcons' starting quarterback position.
Um... that's not how it would work actually... by drafting him, you don't have to pay him anything, you simply hold his NFL rights for 1 year. If you don't reach an agreement on a contract, the player simply re-enters the draft the next season. What Mike Florio has advocated for teams with the #1 overall pick to offer lowball contracts to any one of the 3-4 players... and see if he can get one of them to take a 'better' deal for the team... maybe like offer Aaron Curry something like less than what the #3 pick last year made... with some inflated BS 6th and 7th year contract numbers... but not even that has happened yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnar4
There have actually been a few cases similar to this in baseball. See J.D. Drew.
The obvious answer is that all agents should be forced to follow the master p methods of contract negotiation.
My thinking was right outside the huge money deals in the first round which has gotten outside the top 5 and more like the top 8 or so in recent years. So, I figured the best spots to pick (in the first round) were 10-12 or so, maybe early teens.Quote:
There actually have been some studies that claim the most valuable pick in the entire draft is like the 27th pick in the 1st round or something.
27 isn't all the surprising though although obviously I have no idea how the study was conducted and what variables were used. One thing to consider though is that later picking teams tend to be better and have better coaching staffs. Take Haloti Ngata for instance.. the guy is an animal. If the Browns had taken him though, I'm not so sure he'd be anything special.
It's funny because the Browns have been picked in the top 5 three times of late, and Browns fans are always talking about trading down. Trade down so you stockpile picks and don't have to pay the huge contract.. the only problem is that NFL GM's typically aren't brain-dead and aren't going to give up precious drarft picks for the "right" to pay a rookie a massive contract (few exceptions here, of course).Quote:
The main reason it's more "valuable" is due to the f'ing retarded structure of the contracts given to the top 5 picks... (getting progressively worse as you get to the #1 pick); the latter 1st round picks still get a chunk of money but are an INCREDIBLE steal compared to the top of the draft. Basically the decrease in talent doesn't fit the decrease in $$$ paid in contracts. The Lions would be pure geniuses if they could find any way to move out of the #1 overall spot.. even if it meant dropping down for a 4th rounder... the money saved on the player would be worth it.
It's funny that the fans of teams who always pick high complain that they should trade down and the fans of teams (like the Eagles) that always trade down complain that they should pick high or trade up. Lot of variance in drafting.
It is funny but it makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by zook
Teams picking high probably need more help than one star player can offer. They probably need help in a lot of areas. Better teams would tend to have fewer holes to fill, and adding a star player could easily be enough to push a good team to become a great team.
Denver Broncos finally give in.
Give Cutler agreement to trade.
Good luck in Detroit.
Profootballtalk.com is reporting that the 'Skins are actually the lead candidates to land him... surprising as that may seem.
not surprising at all, 'skins are a slightly more successful Raiders
Pro football talk dot com is a giant pile of garbage and seems to have a 25% accuracy when it's all said and done.
That having been said, This might probably fall in the accurate 25%. The skins have been known to give up the farm for a bale of hay.
Yeah, I'm not sure we are going to get him anymore. Apparently Stafford had a great workout and really impressed the coaching staff, but we'll see.
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
And the Broncos want 2 first round picks for Cutler, a QB is not a need.
Wild, does this mean Simms is the man in Denver now?
Cutler traded to da Bears!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4037373
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Originally Posted by WildBobAA
So did Joey Harrington.
thnxQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
oh jesus christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBobAA
This made me lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ragnar4
WOW!! I didn't see this one coming. Two firsts, a third, and Orton for Cutler.
So the other day there was a huge thread about Cutler on a Browns board that I check every once in a while, and people were throwing out all sorts of stupid and laughable trade proposals to get Cutler. For example, one was Brady Quinn, a 6th round pick, and Corey Williams (who we aquired for a 2nd rounder last year, thank you phil savage :roll:, got paid big $$$, then disappeared) for Jay Culter.
cliffs notes: some people are delusional idiots.
Back on topic, that is a HUGE package that Chicago put together, and now they probably have to pay him as well. I actually kind of like it though, because there really would be no other way for Chicago to land a QB of Cutler's caliber in the near future.
You got the trade mixed up a lil bit:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
Bears: Two first round picks, Kyle Orton
Denver: Jay Cutler, 3rd round pick
I had seen that it was as complicated asQuote:
Originally Posted by dranger7070
Bears: This years 1st, next years first, this years third, kyle orton.
Broncos: This years 5th, Cutler, 6-pack of beer.
lol the 6-pack totally makes it worth it, although i might hold out for a case :/
broncos could improve roster 10 fold by cutting orton
it gets upgraded to a case if next years 5th rounder plays more than 10% of the snaps and doesn't end up working at UPS before 2011.
I <3 the way this convo has turned lol. It would be so epic if they traded players for various amounts of alcohol...
This trade has been reported so many different ways. For example, PFT has the original story and 3 different updates, so 4 different reports coming from 3 different sources.Quote:
Originally Posted by dranger7070
According to NFL.com: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...o&confirm=true
Broncos get: 1st round pick ('09), 1st round pick ('10), 3rd round pick ('09), QB Kyle Orton
Bears get: QB Jay Cutler, 5th round pick ('09)
Ah ok, my bad. I just repeated what was on ESPN :/
To whom is this Jay Cutler guy throwing the football?
Kyle Orton may not be a world crusher... but Rashid Davis, Devin Hester, and Greg Olson aren't exactly re-writing record books.
you must not know many bears fans. Ill help fill the void.
*slap* shut your fcking mouth!
he did, actuallyQuote:
Originally Posted by kingnat
hahaha nice
Oh yur right... I guess Cutler will be playing on special teams too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnar4
Hester: 51 rec, 665 yrds, 3 TDs..... STOP DA PRESSES ON DEM RECORD BBOOKKZZ
Yowzas. Talk about kicking someone in the balls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
Why, Jack, Why?!?!?!
Also, holy crap at the epic debacle now known as the Denver Broncos.
Pretty much this offseason, they only things they've accomplished is destroying the continuity in their front office and completely imploding the offense by getting rid of the coordinator, then replacing the offensive system, THEN replacing the star QB.
HOOOOLY CRAP. Talk about taking gigantic leaps backward. The defense wasn't all that much to write home about last year and they've done...what?...exactly to improve it?
Meanwhile, they're destroying the thing that let them win several games last year.
Season win total is going to come out at like 5...and people would be smart to take the under. This is crazy ridiculous; what is going on out there?!?!?!
the only explanation I can come up with is that Pat Bowlen and Al Davis have just become gay lovers, and that Al is the butch. Only explanation.
Patty honey.. could you please help me not be so bad in the west next year.
I don't know Al, what's it going to take.
That Jay Cutler is such a bitch, why do you keep him around?
Well he's kinda my meal ticket honeybuns.
Don't you want to make daddy Al happy?
ad nauseum.
The past is the past. No use crying over spilled milk.Quote:
Originally Posted by ensign_lee
Detroit has shown to be particularly bad when it comes to offensive high draft picks, and I was simply highlighting this. "Stafford impressed on the combine", Joey did too.
The last thing Detroit needs right now is a high pick, massive salary QB. Detroit has more holes in its lineup than swiss cheese.
So, where do you go to actually make the Lions a contender (without hope and dreams and bullshit)?
1) build the line. Both offense and defense.
2) get linebackers. tons of linebackers.
3) bolster the secondary with good quick guys with some play recognition abilities.
4) find a thunder and lightning combination for the backfield
5) a good pass catching TE (Assuming Calvin Johnson is still with the team by then)
6) OL maintenance, and now you look for a QB.
By drafting a "good" QB as a high pick now, all you will end up with is the next Alex Smith or Dan Orlovsky, who has to run for his life and have routine stops on the DL because his line is as porous as Spain's border. There is simply no pocket, and opposing defenses will continue feasting week after week with Detroit QB's.
So, DET mgmt, BUILD THE FUCKING LINES!
My advice, pick Jason Smith first and pray to god he does not become the next Robert Gallery. But since dire help is needed, trading #1 for like a late #1 & #2 & probably a #5 or something would be probably the most optimal thing DET could do right now.
I don't think any team in the NFL really wants that #1 pick, to be completely honest with you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
Didn't we just talk about this on page 3??Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
It's very very obvious the #1 overal pick is a horrible place to be... you are essentially paying Brady/Manning type money to a QB that has never taken a snap.. that's just beyond retarded.
If I was the Lions.. I'd take ANYTHING to move down, and absent that, i'd simply refuse to turn in my card until 4 other teams have taken players.
yah imagine if your number 2, knowing number one is taking a QB (a position you're sured-up on) and they dont pick? Im not fcking picking to spend an xtra 10 mil on a player.
Steve McNair, Favre and now Cutler, Bus Cook is an A-hole, this is completely his M.O.
Unfortunately for the front office they can't do this, as they have to worry about embarrassment, job security, death threats, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingnat
It even surfaced in the whole Cutler saga that Denver was *not* interested in the pick at all. I don't think it was a very reliable source, but it's what I think anyway without any confirmation.
It's not only about the money, which speaks for itself, it's about this specific draft. There's just nobody that sticks out from the crowd IMO.
Favre and Cutler, sure. Don't throw McNair in there though; that one was completely on the Titans. You can't lock a player out of the facility for no other than to squat on their rights and not have to pay them their salary if they get hurt. That was ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ltrain
Jack, we have totally different management/talent evaluators than when Harrington came out (i.e. NO MATT MILLEN). Don't assume that Schwartz/Mayhew are going to draft a bunch of WRs because that's not what is going to happen since Schwartz is a defensive guy. Also, we have a ton of draft picks including 5 total picks in the first three rounds and 3 of the first 33 overall picks. So even if we take Stafford #1, we still have plenty of picks to build our lines and our defense.
To everyone saying the Lions should try to move down: this is such an obvious statement and it's putting me on tilt hearing people say it over and over again. The Lions have already said they were shopping the #1 pick, unfortunately, no team is dumb enough to actually want to get the #1 pick this year. The Lions picked a bad year to go 0-16 since the top end of talent this year is pretty mediocre compared to other years.
Also, I'm so glad that we didn't get Culter after seeing what the Bears paid for him.
why is there ZERO uproar about the price the Chiefs got for Cassell compared to the epic price the Bears just paid?
Cuz no one what the Chiefs do?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
what just happened was like the Knicks trading Curry and their 2nd rounder for Bosh and then the the Bulls trading Deng, Rose, and their first rounder for Amare.
why would there be?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
1. talentQuote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
2. contract
I'm not trying to knock what Matt Cassel did, but he stepped in to what was the previous year the most prolific offense in NFL history, with a genius head coach (and probably offensive coordinator as well), and a cake schedule. His contract is 1 year for 15 million (i.e. not very favorable). I believe Cutler is signed for 3 more years at very low salaries. So all and all, it's just a different situation.
All the Chiefs fans I know are pretty much laughing their asses off and pointing in every conceivable direction... (but mostly north and west.)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
The rumors are Cutler is now going to work out a long term deal with the Bears so he will get his payday. Looking at the Draft, Denver probably will take Sanchez or Freeman with their 1st round pick. Orton may have a winning record, but he can't be the long term solution for the fanbase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
Also Lukie, McNair is similar because the lockout was later in the negotiations, although part of it if I remember correctly was also for liability reasons in case he was to get hurt while he was being dealt. Bus Cook's strategy has been to put up a wall to his player, and then run miscomunication and animosity as a way to push the player out the door; unfortunately it works. The Packers also pushed Favre out the door late in the fiasco after Bus Cook had poisoned the well.
Maybe, but I wouldn't be surprised if Denver just goes into this season with Orton and Simms and goes after a QB in next year's much stronger QB draft (if necessary). Browns fans are clamoring for a 12+18 for our 5 trade. I can only use the phrase "get real" so much though, as obviously that isn't going to happen.Quote:
The rumors are Cutler is now going to work out a long term deal with the Bears so he will get his payday. Looking at the Draft, Denver probably will take Sanchez or Freeman with their 1st round pick. Orton may have a winning record, but he can't be the long term solution for the fanbase.
I still think the Titans were at fault in that situation. What specifically did McNair (or his agent) do wrong there? It's not fair to lock a player out of the facility for no reason until training camp or preseason or the regular season, whatever the case may be, just to devalue the player or try to build up trade leverage. McNair filed a grievance and won, so at least somebody agrees with me. Typically grievances that don't directly have to do with signing bonus/roster bonus recovery are won by the team.Quote:
Also Lukie, McNair is similar because the lockout was later in the negotiations, although part of it if I remember correctly was also for liability reasons in case he was to get hurt while he was being dealt. Bus Cook's strategy has been to put up a wall to his player, and then run miscomunication and animosity as a way to push the player out the door; unfortunately it works. The Packers also pushed Favre out the door late in the fiasco after Bus Cook had poisoned the well.
Because Cutler >>>>> Cassell? {acronym renton hates}Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
A good take on the whole Cutler/Cassel/Broncos/Bears/Pats situation:
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...-cutler-trade/
Edwards to the Giants looking more likely:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns
Wow, KC is looking like a contender all of a sudden. Those in the know, how's the secondary?
How's the secondary?! I'm mailing you my dry cleaning bill for I had spat my drink all over myself. First in disbelief, then upon a quick re-read, I spat in disgust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
Jack, meet mr flowers drafted to KC last year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YRH7bCT-SM
how is KC secondary? Fcking set, sir.
I'd trade the guy for a JUGS machine and a sack of footballs personally, but if the Giants want to give up a first round pick and more then great.. the more the merrier.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingnat
my bold prediction: there won't be a less than 3 losses team representing the nfc in the playoffs and maybe not from the afc either. nfc south playing both conference's easts, and the afc east playing both conference's souths. omg the possibilities of awesome games!!!! and wtf @ NE getting carolina, tennessee, and baltimore at home.......only having to play indy away. ghey
/hijack
lol i like your enthusiasm, i dont think we are contenders this year thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
Flowers and Carr are both solid, Carr is a little undersized though imo
Safeties (Page and Pollard) are average to good but nothing special
Don't forget Dejuan Morgan, 3rd rd of '08. This year will tell whether he was injured last year or just a bust.
I don't see him getting alot of playing time
I dont understand how this is a problem. That's like saying "Sure we've got Usain Bolt on our olympic sprinting team but Im just not sure we're gonna cut it this year."Quote:
Originally Posted by Triptanes
Bradon Flowers takes your pussy KC secondary and forges it into folded steel. Then he laughs at that which he just created, whips out a hunk of mythical mithril and forms a newer better defensive secondary.
Any and all complaints about KC secondary are simply a fools complaints. If you guys come short of the number 2 defense this year (behind Pixburgh) then your coaches should be shot where they stand.
Get behind your team, boys!
rilla, you make me chuckles. We still have a little problem called the D-Line. 4-3, 3-4, whatevs. Both are problematic for this front 7. While I appreciate your enthusiasm, those of us that have to go to Arrowhead and watch the team get bludgeoned for 8 weeks are a tad more realistic. We do have some very workable parts, but 2nd best D in the AFC, errr no.
We need that big DT that we have been looking for ever since the Neil Smith/Dan Saleaumua days no matter what alignment we end up in.
IMO, we should just take the best available OL, use up whatever Larry Johnson has left in the tank and road grade our way to 9-7 this year.
Odds LJ is still on this team by the time this post is replied to: Even money
well I guess we are taking Stafford.....gay
silly string, if kc didnt have the honor of losing to pittsburgh this november 22nd, Id offer to trade you teams this year. You let way too much realism bog down what should be a warriors support of your team.
Try to parallel the manlove I show for my team. The speed of light was defined by Ben Roethlisberger because he thought it would be a "good goal" for physicists with overpriced particle accelerators.
James Harrison is a horrible human being. But because he can run past left guards and sack quarterbacks, his life is 10 times as valueable as yours. (Assuming you're 1/10th the defensive end he is.)
Troy Polomalu.
Troy Fcking Polomalu.
16-0 baby, and this year we're gonna do it right. Ya im talking to you patriot "fans"
put ur money where ur mouth is?Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
lol you kids crack me up
Jason Peters to the Eagles!!
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...Bowl-LT-Peters
Big trade
this just might be fucking awesome, especially with losing some of the old guys on the line, adding jason peters and stacy andrews, getting a healthy shawn andrews back, and with leonard weaver as fullback...blocking should be much better.
hell ya, philly could easily go 8-8 this year! Boo ya!
You know what? fck it, 9 and 7 bay-bay!
rilla stop posting in my thread
lukie, blow me.
this thread is for the nfl, not your stupid ass psychiatry bullshit. have u contributed anything of worth in this thread at all?
here is what you have posted in this thread so far:
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also he needs talent and handsomely good looks.
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im having difficulty reading between the smiley faces and cant find the time or desire to find read about what happened unless someone wants to give me it here.
[they just traded for orton]Quote:
broncos could improve roster 10 fold by cutting orton
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you must not know many bears fans. Ill help fill the void.
*slap* shut your fcking mouth!
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hahaha nice
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yah imagine if your number 2, knowing number one is taking a QB (a position you're sured-up on) and they dont pick? Im not fcking picking to spend an xtra 10 mil on a player.
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why would there be?
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How's the secondary?! I'm mailing you my dry cleaning bill for I had spat my drink all over myself. First in disbelief, then upon a quick re-read, I spat in disgust.
Jack, meet mr flowers drafted to KC last year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YRH7bCT-SM
how is KC secondary? Fcking set, sir.
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I dont understand how this is a problem. That's like saying "Sure we've got Usain Bolt on our olympic sprinting team but Im just not sure we're gonna cut it this year."
Bradon Flowers takes your pussy KC secondary and forges it into folded steel. Then he laughs at that which he just created, whips out a hunk of mythical mithril and forms a newer better defensive secondary.
Any and all complaints about KC secondary are simply a fools complaints. If you guys come short of the number 2 defense this year (behind Pixburgh) then your coaches should be shot where they stand.
Get behind your team, boys!
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silly string, if kc didnt have the honor of losing to pittsburgh this november 22nd, Id offer to trade you teams this year. You let way too much realism bog down what should be a warriors support of your team.
Try to parallel the manlove I show for my team. The speed of light was defined by Ben Roethlisberger because he thought it would be a "good goal" for physicists with overpriced particle accelerators.
James Harrison is a horrible human being. But because he can run past left guards and sack quarterbacks, his life is 10 times as valueable as yours. (Assuming you're 1/10th the defensive end he is.)
Troy Polomalu.
Troy Fcking Polomalu.
16-0 baby, and this year we're gonna do it right. Ya im talking to you patriot "fans"
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lol you kids crack me up
so yeah, there is absolutely nothing of worth in any of your posts. i think you just like hearing yourself talk. this thread is for football, thank you very much.Quote:
hell ya, philly could easily go 8-8 this year! Boo ya!
You know what? fck it, 9 and 7 bay-bay!
did i do that?
ill refrain from posting in your thread but as completely straight faced serious, all of my posts in this thread are 100% demonstrative of how seriously football should be taken. It's a fcking game. Who cares who is traded where? Or what team A should do with pick Y. I enjoy my sports because it's athletes better than me doing things which make me go "nice."
I used to take sports much more seriously and I was an idiot for doing so.
And besides, I was trying to bring jovial personality to your thread and you told me to fuck off, man. That's just cold.
edit oh and another thing! You're god damn right I like to hear myself talk, probably twice as much as you like to look at yourself in the mirror! Buuuuurnnn
remember that month or so rilla was all about that deep-thought bullshit
that was fun
links to some of these posts imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
ok, great.. thank you for your opinion. however, I created this thread specifically to talk about free agency, who is traded where, and what team A should do with pick Y and any related (or not so related) subject that happens to pop up.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
there was a new thread every week during the season, most or all of which got a lot of traffic which tells me that more than a few people enjoy talking about this stuff.
take your useless crap that you constantly post in this thread (and all past nfl threads I might add-- do a search) somewhere else. thank you.
oh yeah, I saw what you had written in the post before this one that you later edited, hence the tone.
edit: oh shoot, i didn't make this thread :x
we'll consider it an extension of all my other nfl threads though.