Sep 2015 Werewolf - Game thread

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

you have consistency and thought process. a fully scrutinized wolf always (always!) fails this test.

days ago you said ship is not bussing for a specific, unspecified reason. today you are presenting that reason. this alone doesn't fully vil you, but it's the type of thing that wolves cannot do

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Presenting what reason? The main reason I don't think SIU/Hoopy would be w/w was because when Ship does bus he tries to get credit for it IE gives unique original reasons to push the player he's bussing and tries to rally people to vote with him - when he busses he does it seriously and gets the maximum village equity he can out of it

Here he just votes along with Kami and doesn't say much about it, I think as a wolf he'd just not show/vote at all close to EOD with a bro being wagoned

I don't read SIU amazingly though

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Originally Posted by Cory

Presenting what reason? The main reason I don't think SIU/Hoopy would be w/w was because when Ship does bus he tries to get credit for it IE gives unique original reasons to push the player he's bussing and tries to rally people to vote with him - when he busses he does it seriously and gets the maximum village equity he can out of it

Here he just votes along with Kami and doesn't say much about it, I think as a wolf he'd just not show/vote at all close to EOD with a bro being wagoned

I don't read SIU amazingly though

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legit read. my counter is ship dgaf about ftr and busses to his hearts content. so much so that hoopy in his dying breath says "look at that bamboo muncher"

who else is there?

ong isn't a fucking wolf. just isn't.

baud is mostly cleared.

gabe rilla rascal are specials.

kami is a chick who tried to kill herself. which means she was worried about peoples' opinions of her.

stupidmonkeyface is peek.

bid looks like the villies thing i ever saw

Ship would try a lot harder here as a wolf and for sure would be touring dat village cred.

incidentally I think wuf is almost always a villager.

besides, ship blatantly said shipping is not his wolf tactic.

how is this not the biggest red alarm you could see? his counter to your claim that he busses hardcore is "..........no..........."

*bussing

I'm lost. I think we need to POE BiD and go from there.

wtf is poe

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

besides, ship blatantly said shipping is not his wolf tactic.

how is this not the biggest red alarm you could see? his counter to your claim that he busses hardcore is "..........no..........."

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That sounds alignment-neutral from him

Pretty sure he was just juhoking with me

You juhokers

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Originally Posted by Cory

That sounds alignment-neutral from him

Pretty sure he was just juhoking with me

You juhokers

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sounds like you juhokers need to learn that in werewolf, what you say matters.

all that matters is lunching wolves if you're a village and lunching villagers as a wolf ffs

wufwugy i like you

BUT

i don't really trust your ability to make reads that are >> rand

it's probably because i'm a dick

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Originally Posted by Cory

all that matters is lunching wolves if you're a village and lunching villagers as a wolf ffs

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so who is the wolf?

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Originally Posted by Cory

i don't really trust your ability to make reads that are >> rand

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why?

Vote rescind

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Vote rescind

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Why? Who you thinking?

Rescind is not a wolf

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

so who is the wolf?

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nobody seems to know

BID is my best guess

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Originally Posted by baudib

Rescind is not a wolf

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LOL

We basically win this game 100% of the time if we can just correctly clear 3 villagers besides the claims

I think baudib/Kami are always villagers so I might just say lynch everyone else in some order

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Originally Posted by Cory

nobody seems to know

BID is my best guess

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so you really are a dick. the guy who says i cant make reads better than rand has no read of his own.

Ongbonga
Wufwugy
JKDS
Shipitup
Supermonkeyface
BID (Bankitdrew)

Like lynch these people from the bottom up and you should win 100% of the time

I'm intrigued by the thought of it being a ftr reg based on kill

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

so you really are a dick. the guy who says i cant make reads better than rand has no read of his own.

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Confident wolf read? Not really

Ofc I'm not sitting here spouting about having a confident read, like your BID = v read that just seems like button pressing

We don't ever lose this game

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

I'm intrigued by the thought of it being a ftr reg based on kill

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Or non FTR regular who FPS'd the kill.

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Originally Posted by Cory

Confident wolf read? Not really

Ofc I'm not sitting here spouting about having a confident read, like your BID = v read that just seems like button pressing

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learn what button pressing is

YES. Cowboys scored. :)

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

learn what button pressing is

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ok teach me

jfike9nlvndosw0-39ymg;OLDJG

button pressing

I was convinced Cory was the vig

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Originally Posted by baudib

I was convinced Cory was the vig

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I'm totally the vig, I'm just shooting rilla tonight for my own sick pleasure

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Originally Posted by baudib

I was convinced Cory was the vig

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I was guessing either you or Cory. I was surprised it was rilla.

You people are funny with all your thinking about roles and stuff

Just lunch the wolfy people

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Originally Posted by Cory

I'm totally the vig, I'm just shooting rilla tonight for my own sick pleasure

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I LOL'd at that. I'm hoping it's true, but that may be the rum talking.

idgaf about y'alls meta on this unfamiliar forum. easy as daylight could ship bus hoopy then abandon care about this forum.

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

idgaf about y'alls meta on this unfamiliar forum. easy as daylight could ship bus hoopy then abandon care about this forum.

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Meta is pretty much dead (or should be) after last game from reading the dead thread.

Cory has it right. Lynch the wolfy players as villa and villas as a wolf.

It's less meta and more "what players individually consider +EV or -EV in their indicative roles" afaict

But I'm a weird INFP thinker so you probably don't look for what I look for

I don't believe anyone is so limited to be one way in a role and a different way in another

infj 1%er master race

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Originally Posted by Cory

I don't believe anyone is so limited to be one way in a role and a different way in another

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but they are. whether you can find it or not, that's up to you.

they can change, eventually or slowly. i've seen former "one-way" players either develop or have one-hit wonder games where they surpass their ranges for whatever reason.

but why are we even talking about this, who the fuck cares how we think

because days are too long and rilla should have been lynched long before he said he's vig

This game is boring at this point. It's going to be annoying and lots of shouting about non-port any stuff. We have like 99% of the information we will ever have so its just rehashing old stuff from here on out.

lets kill BID and reassess.

someone let me know if Ong becomes wolfy

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Originally Posted by baudib

This game is boring at this point. It's going to be annoying and lots of shouting about non-port any stuff. We have like 99% of the information we will ever have so its just rehashing old stuff from here on out.

lets kill BID and reassess.

someone let me know if Ong becomes wolfy

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Ong's being Ong, but he hasn't been around for a while.

i have yet to see any actual case for bid

im close to reverting back to oldwuf style and bolding people based on bad arguments.

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

These are BID's last 2 posts. First quote is from 9/10 at 6:00 PM and the next was yesterday at 12:09 AM, just before the thread got locked. Based on his non posting today and that pop-in to tell people to stop posting, I think BID is the likely wolf here.

Lynch BID

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Wuf, this is a big part of my vote for BID right now. That and he just doesn't seem to be connected to the game, which is not like BID.

im feeling SIU or monkey at this point

been NFLing today

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Originally Posted by Cory

Ongbonga
Wufwugy
JKDS
Shipitup
Supermonkeyface
BID (Bankitdrew)

Like lynch these people from the bottom up and you should win 100% of the time

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gabe the wolves are always killing either you or rilla so think about it and using your intuitive powers to figure out which one and prevent it LDO

I'm not sure there's a case on anyone. If we get to F5 I agree we should prob kill Monkey and Ship by then but they have villager credentials that BID doesn't have.

there's not really much going for Ong-Wif either but they're both villa on tone and thought process.

baudib do you agree with my list

is there a fast-forward button on this thing anywhere

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Vote rescind

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

I'm intrigued by the thought of it being a ftr reg based on kill

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

We don't ever lose this game

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SMF, come and talk to us. I don't like this pop-in (even though I peeked you).

Yeah pretty much

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Originally Posted by baudib

Given how Rascal runs as seer it makes sense for Monkey to be the one

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This would be so sick if SMF is the last wolf.

I've never seen JKDs' wolf game and I imagine he would be a good one. He was a neutral in the game I modded. Those of you familiar with his wolf abilities need to give input.

i feel like his questioning of Hoopy was very villagery

YES!!! Cowboys win.

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

Not sure who the wolfiest player is aorn. I still wouldn't put jkds in my villa pile.

Baudib, Cory, and ship om fairly certain are villagers. (Coincidence they are all from same site?)

90% ong is a villager

Bid/wuf/gator/hoopy/kami all have things that make me worry whether they are v's.

Rilla slightly above my wolfy guys

Rascal and jkds

Rascal and jkds

Gabe n Evene unmemorable for me. Will read tmrw

Dunno if I'll be around much before EOD but this is what I got so far

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As I begin to read a little bit. I still feel good about my villagers. My gut tells me I put the last wolf the same group as hoopy or below that. But I think the former.

I was softing seer stuff all day one so that should be good for me. The last wolf is pr so he's got no reason to be throwing cover out there looking like he's trying to draw a kill

Wolves lay seer cover the time. And Ship did as well.

My EOD looks good IMO too. If I'm gonna bus I'm gonna hard. But my toan and posting remains consistent with my entire d1 pushes and clearings

Vanilla wolves more likely

Can someone make a list of claims and noteworthy votes/distinctions that we can all pass around?

Please :$

Without knowing off the top of my head claims n stuff

Lynch bid, gabe, wuf

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

Wuf, this is a big part of my vote for BID right now. That and he just doesn't seem to be connected to the game, which is not like BID.

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it's super standard bid. play style is not a tell for him. name it and he has done it as any role. he has gone bombastic with how much he cares about a game in one day to for the next week not even show up once.

the secret to understanding bid is understanding that his subconscious dominates his behavior. when his posts smell of the type of stuff that is in the back of the mind of a villager, it's because he's a villager. he wouldnt argue with cory the way he has as a wolf because he would "know better" and wouldn't even care to argue like that. he wouldn't comment several times about how people misunderstand him if he was a wolf because he would "know better" and that people wouldn't look back at his play this game and judge him on a personal level.

see y'all on the flip side. dont lynch too many villagers

sorry ive been busy but im free now

Kami what do you think of Ship

He's villager for sure

Just lack of motivation is making him slack

Would defend him hard core tbh

Baudib
Ship
Rascal
Kami

My only confirmed goods rn

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player (votes) || who's voting for them

BID (3) || cory, rascal, baud
SMF (3) || kami, rilla, ship

SIU (1) || wuf
Baud (1) || gabe

no vote (4) || BID, ong, jkds, smf

12 players; 7 is maj. Please notify me if you spot an error in the VC.

Day 2 ends on Monday @ 5:00 PM GMT, about 8 hours from now

I would be willing to switch to the other wagon if someone explains why he's wolfy to them

Did I miss anything?

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

it's super standard bid. play style is not a tell for him. name it and he has done it as any role. he has gone bombastic with how much he cares about a game in one day to for the next week not even show up once.

the secret to understanding bid is understanding that his subconscious dominates his behavior. when his posts smell of the type of stuff that is in the back of the mind of a villager, it's because he's a villager. he wouldnt argue with cory the way he has as a wolf because he would "know better" and wouldn't even care to argue like that. he wouldn't comment several times about how people misunderstand him if he was a wolf because he would "know better" and that people wouldn't look back at his play this game and judge him on a personal level.

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Agree with this entirely, and I would also be surpised if wuf was a wolf who is happy to hard clear drew based on tone while drew is a wagon.

Why isn't rilla a wagon? Is he doing his villaer thing today? I haven't read up because my comp is borked and I'm borrowing my housemates laptop, so time is much more limited than usual for me.

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

My EOD looks good IMO too. If I'm gonna bus I'm gonna hard. But my toan and posting remains consistent with my entire d1 pushes and clearings

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Here's the wolf. I coud argue that I look good for not bussing hoopy, but it's a weak as hell argument and relies entirely on meta, which can be manipulated. Everyone knows I bus hard, so me not doing it can easily be an adjustment. Why should monkey get credit for not bussing?

monkey seems to be very interested in self clearing. Is anyone else saying how villager they are?

In case I'm unable to get to a compe for deadline...

lynch monkey

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Originally Posted by SuperMonkeyFace

I was softing seer stuff all day one so that should be good for me. The last wolf is pr so he's got no reason to be throwing cover out there looking like he's trying to draw a kill

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Here's the lock case.

He's arguing that throwing seer stuff around on d1 is villagery because it's appearing to try and draw the kill, but of course if he's a wolf he knows he won't get killed.

This is over with this lynch. gg wolves, you got owned.

Wait, monkey is rascal's clear, right?

This is further evidence against monkey. Why wasn't rascal roleblocked? Because they hoped rascal would look at monkey, who would self target as tailor, and clear him.

I'm glad I was able to wrap this up for y'all in an hour.

Monkey

$tats

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player (votes) || who's voting for them

SMF (5) || kami, rilla, ship, ong, cory

BID (2) || rascal, baud

SIU (1) || wuf
Baud (1) || gabe

no vote (3) || BID, jkds, smf

12 players; 7 is maj. Please notify me if you spot an error in the VC.

Day 2 ends in 1 hour

This is exciting.

glgl

Supermonkeyface was lynched!

He was a vanilla villager!


The living:
Ongbonga
JKDS
BID (Bankitdrew)
Gabe
Wufwugy
Baudib
Rascal (lilrascal)
Kami
Shipitup
Rilla (a500lbgorilla)
Cory

Living roles:
7 vanilla villagers
1 Seer
1 Angel
1 Vigilante
1 tailor

The dead:
Hoopy, Vanilla wolf, lynched D1
Evene, Roleblocker, Shot N1
Gator, vanilla villager, killed N1
Supermonkeyface, vanilla villager, lynched D2

IT IS NIGHT! , which will last for 24 hours. No night talk!

I'm opening the thread early guys & gals.

Our last wolf is unable to continue as he has come down with a severe case of faceblast, therefore






VILLAGE WINS!

(Rilla shot bankitdrew, the tailor)

gg

Good game village, you guys clearly wanted it more

Wolf den http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/yAbtggSxVgTHy

Dead thread http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/EFCcNcDdfixf6

I think it's pretty much always a mistake to lynch on D2 someone who lynched the wolf, wasn't overtly wolfy, and also had peeked villager equity, granted everyone is polarized to villager/tailor, but still.

Shoulda had a sweep.

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Originally Posted by baudib

I think it's pretty much always a mistake to lynch on D2 someone who lynched the wolf, wasn't overtly wolfy, and also had peeked villager equity, granted everyone is polarized to villager/tailor, but still.

Shoulda had a sweep.

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Definitely should have given a little wieght to rascal's peek seeing as two wolves were still alive N1

Tough one for the wolves I think. Evene was basically a no-show, hoopy had a bit of ww burnout and drew was actually doing alright but he'll tell you himself he's much more comfortable as second fiddle on a wolf team, not top dog

The peeked villager equity was exactly zero.

Pretty sure this is my worst effort yet. I'm actually quite proud of this one.

I should've stuck with my gut on drew that it was weird he didn't snap read me as villager and beat his chest.

Nice shooting rilla. I had you polarised as wolf or special.

Who was the angel? I guess whoever it was that claimed vig... Cory?

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

The peeked villager equity was exactly zero.

Pretty sure this is my worst effort yet. I'm actually quite proud of this one.

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You once self lynched as a villager to save a wolf. Nothing will ever come close to that :heart:

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

I should've stuck with my gut on drew that it was weird he didn't snap read me as villager and beat his chest.

Nice shooting rilla. I had you polarised as wolf or special.

Who was the angel? I guess whoever it was that claimed vig... Cory?

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Gabe, he hardclaimed angel a while back

Modding was fun (and having MMM as co-mod made it easy, thanks momo) but I'm looking forward to some HARD DEFENDING WOLVES again

Why was it so hard to get BID lynched

anyway ez game should have been sweep