Well I guess that makes us slightly more civilised than the States.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
Brag that shit.
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Well I guess that makes us slightly more civilised than the States.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
Brag that shit.
Not at all. You guys just can't be trusted to be civilized without laws telling you exactly what not to do.
Edit: Ong was not not right about too many nots in the sentence.
Double edit: I'm a fucking dumbass.
I've read that like four times and I'm still not sure if there's one too many nots in there.
haha that sentence was all kinds of fucked. I think I fixed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I'll admit I didn't keep a straight face when I suggested we're civilised.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2172158
"The fruit feud was apparently inspired by a heated conversation the men were having about the Chappelle controversy, which many viewed as a racist act when Englander's arrest made news. Englander and Wills gave conflicting accounts of who provoked whom, but both described a fight that ended with Englander throwing a peel that landed near Wills.
"It seemed fitting at that point," said Englander, a self-described artist and aspiring clown. "I was like, the irony of this situation is too much to pass up, and I probably should've just let it be."
Lolll, confirmed. He hates black people. HATES.
Is he wearing a fucking shell suit?
Haha maybe. Almost looks like one but not exactly. I need to think of a banana-inspired gift to bring him next time I go there.
"a self described artist and aspiring clown"...
Wait, is it boog?
loooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llQuote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
It's funny because he was right.
ong, I'm right there with you. Shit fuckin blows.
You know I've been taking adderall all week and not smoking based on my posts, lol.
i've become an anti-racist. not that im against racism, but im against people claiming racism. we've gotten so ludicrous about it that we're making things far worse than if we simply just eliminated the concept from our social consciousness.
you know a society is fucking retarded when bigot-accusers cause more problems than actual bigots.
yeah. I mean look, like -- I understand why people might have thought this was racist. If a guy threw a sandwich at a female comedian, I would assume he was being a dick and playing on the whole "make me a sandwich" thing. But I would also want to hear him out, and I would probably give him the benefit of the doubt if he explained why it actually was a spontaneous and not pre-meditated sexist thing.
And that would be that. And life would go on.
The true victim is the poor freaking banana peel, who never asked for such a racially charged existence!
Honestly, I find it astonishing that it isn't obviously racist to you guys.
we need to return to our roots of answering grievances with "boo fucking hoo".
it's not like that's always the answer (it's often a terrible answer), but it's the answer we need to indulge for the next decade or so in order to unfuck things.
so the next time anybody sjw's anything, tell them boo fucking hoo.
only after it was explained do most of us see how it could be viewed racist. that necessarily means it isnt obviously racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
in murika, we never developed a thing with black people and bananas like you barmy bastards did.
the case is that america defeated its racism to such a degree that the only remaining in the media is the joke stuff (like fried chicken). we've mostly forgotten about the banana/monkey connection and spend all our time focusing on the lolsy of fried chicken.
Ok, what if twat threw a watermelon at funny guy? Are we in the no-no zone yet?
America has defeated racism?
Has it?
we would view that as racist because very few people here dont already know the stereotyped connection between black people and watermelonQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
granted, that still doesn't make it automatically racist
and we should still just say fucking forget about it. thought-crime is the biggest pile of bullshit there ever was.
read what i saidQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
and yes, america has overcome racism to a far greater degree than its given credit for. it's not dead, as it likely won't be dead for a very long time. but we're kidding ourselves if we think racism is more than 1/100th as important as the media tells us.
To be fair, if there was some stupid dumb ass English twat who got himself into a shitstorm because he threw a watermelon at a black man, I wouldn't find that as obviously racist.
Anyway, enough of this stupid shit. Drink and dance time.
I actually think the banana thing is on the same level as the watermelon thing. I even had to explain to my boyfriend the banana thing, which is crazy to me. Of course I believe he didn't know, but it's perplexing because I feel like it's one of those things you learn from osmosis, just by watching movies/tv/going online.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Black people still deal with racism in this country, there is no denying that, so some things are going to hold more resonance. But you still need to hear people out and not just perma-stamp RACIST on people's foreheads for something like throwing a banana peel.
I don't think it's wrong that people interpreted this is a possible racist act. The same way we shouldn't be hypersensitive to racism to the point of "thought-crime," we also shouldn't be hyper-sensitive to being CALLED racist and try to shut down any conversation of the sort. I mean, I'd rather my biggest issue be being called racist than actually experience real racism throughout my life.
I hate militance on either side of the equation.
Yeah that's because normal, productive men who are worthy of respect have this thing called logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I, as a visible minority no matter where I go, am more concerned about the insidious, subtle kind of racism where people's prejudices, conscious or not, change their decision making when looking at my job applications for example, rather than the overt stuff like shouting CHING CHANG CHONG at me on the street.
In ong's defense I think he means he's surprised that they're not aware of it because it's common knowledge, not necessarily that someone should just instinctively understand that a banana is racist (which is retarded and actually... pretty racist, hah.)Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Eug -- yeah, that's what's called microaggressions, like telling a third generation Asian that his english is really good.
Eug, what's with the racist avatar?
At tech companies you see more Asian people than anything else though.
http://i46.tinypic.com/mjo7e9.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
the bf made a smarty pants comment on fb: "It just sucks when the gravity of mass culture prevents the purification of these oppressive tropes, makes you wonder how much of the persisting oppression exists through the vehicle of mass media."
The media is so sensationalistic and insidious, it's true. bleh.
I'd say upbringing and expectations are big factors here. I know too many Asian parents discouraging kids from doing things that won't be seen as prestigious or financially rewarding. Get into med school or prepare to be disowned type of thing. Imagine the expectations of you were to be crap in school and do badly in life - instilling all the wrong ideas in your head about your self worth present a real obstacle to achieving success . I owe my success, whatever there is of it, to believing in myself more than any inherent talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackvance
I'm a musician so I have to put up with stuff like "oh you Asians are so hard working and TECHNICALLY proficient" emphasizing technique in order to deemphasize creativity and thinking freely. We're soulless calculator robot pervert geeks after all.
I'm pretty sure I was lazy and winged it in the last second a lot in college in a very public fashion to make a statement, to the detriment of my results.
I wish I studied in Germany to begin with, where hard work is seen as a more important trait than genius. England made me drink beer instead and hope "talent" will pull through for me. Anyway apologies for the multipost rant.
That's right, thaaaaaaaat's where I got b-nanananas from. I could not for the life of me remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renton
IME white people I know (including myself) have experienced far more racism from black people than vice versa. I've been astonished many times at how commonplace it is for people to claim racism against black people but tolerate racism against white people. I have been privy to situations of black people racially attacking white people, but never vice versa. I personally almost lost a job because a black coworker accused me of being racist against him. I was lucky that one of my bosses (who was also black) thought it was bullshit and laughed at how not-racist I was.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
We need to get our heads out of our asses and realize that what we today are calling legitimate grievances are really just a house fire, where trucks showed up with oxygen tanks instead of water, and now it burned down the entire neighborhood. The legitimate grievance was the house fire, not its massive spread and damage created by improper reactions and overreactions. At what point do we say people are being taught to look for racism where it isn't and being taught to feel oppressed when they aren't?
Unfortunately, this is people trying to be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by eugmac
When was the last time you didn't get invited to a job interview because you're white?Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
oh, yes I'm aware of this!Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
i think there is so much more to learn about this dynamic (or supposed one) before we can make conclusions on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by eugmac
If you doubt such biases exist people have done studies on it. http://www.chicagobooth.edu/capideas...acialbias.html
i dont doubt this type of thing. im saying we dont know what to make of it. there are many ways there could be racial biases in hiring that dont involve racism. in fact, if there were not biases in hiring, we'd all be dreaming. discrimination is an inseparable part of the world. we can't just adopt the leftist view that "race-something" equals "racism".Quote:
Originally Posted by eugmac
on a related note:
i mean, im gonna be completely honest, if im reviewing applications and one says "lucy johnson" and the other says "la'quishraniqua johnson", im probably gonna be a little "racist" about it. why? because i know lucy johnsons. i grew up with them. some of them are cool and some are batty. ive been to their dad's barbeques and dated some. i know them. but i dont know la'quishraniquas. i know what ive been told and what little experiences ive had. i think the name is ridiculous and is evident of poor judgment by their parents, but i hope that wouldnt factor into my analysis (but guess what it probably does).
a lot of people try very hard to not be racist. the lefty sjw view is to call all distinctions that involve race to be racism, and people who are trying to not be racist are collateral (or maybe the intended victims).
https://instagram.com/the_buttblog
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(good cleanser from racism convo)
Have you thought about a fishing trip off the coast?Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Yeah maybe the government will pay for it.
In more positive news, a good friend of mine's rapist was shot late last night/early this morning and killed by a drug dealer who he owed money to.
I think ong did a good job of showing how illogical the whole racism sensitivity thing is. I'll go by the assumption it was intentional. Racism as a social justice phenomenon isn't exercised or enforced by blacks at all. It's practiced by whites, against other whites. It's done by white people who by and large don't even associate with black people. The leftist media has trained everyone over decades to become hypersensitive to the degree that few notice anymore that it makes no logical sense. Noone even asks black people if they are offended, probably because when we do they usually aren't and then we can't go on pretending there are problems.
If things like affirmative actions were actually about improving racial relations, the approach of forcing people to hire others, blaming some people and victimizing other people makes absolutely no sense. You'd argue with those racial prejudice instead of going on the offense with them. you'd try to reason with them, you'd promote cooperation and unity in everyone no matter what side.
Let's look at situations where we actually want people to get along, like a company or a classroom. We promote cooperation and respect, not preach to some they're racist, bigotted, sexist douchebags while telling others they're victims of injustice perpetrated by the others - because that would of course totally ruin the atmosphere. Instead we have class trips and team building. If society's leaders were interested in improving relations between their people, they'd take the same approach. Preaching strife only achieves strife.
muy fantastico postas muchacho!Quote:
Originally Posted by jackvance
I think there needs to be a bigred randomness thread cause none of this shit is interesting
But in fairness, your idiocy is random, like in the sense that intelligence is random
I disagree with the above posts but they make sense
Alright so here was my idea for proposing to my chick, but I decided not to do it. I'm sharing this here in case someone wants to make use of it.
So I'll be gone and she'll be at the house, and I'll call her and say some shit like, "Hey I need you to do something and not ask questions. Bring me X shovel from downstairs and a change of clothes for me. Bring it to X park down in the woods behind Y. Let me know when you're close." So she'd totally do it because she's completely down for me, and then I'd have a friend pose as this guy I killed or whatever, and I was going to bury the body (which is why I needed the shovel). I start digging and tell her to go through the dude's pockets, and the ring box would be in like his back pocket or whatever. She'd find it, open it and then the alleged dead guy would start laughing and I'd start laughing and she'd be all like WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS NOT FUNNY. What's even better is that I'd be secretly recording the whole thing without her knowledge and play it unexpectedly (for her) at the wedding.
i would dump you for that
pranks make me want to murder baby jesus
So you're a pussy?Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Jokes aside,
...,
...nope, you're just a pussy.
Nah, kidding, Wuf is the next FTR fucker I'd have a brew with...then start yelling at when arguing student loans.
basically
call it a family quirk. it isnt so much being a pussy, but hating being tricked or frightened. true hate.
i cant hear you on account of all this debt stuck in my ears.
I like how spoon assumes the wedding will be going ahead. I admire that optimism.
you dont propose unless you already know the answer.
Of course it would. There's no reason why it wouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I myself was wondering what the fuck's going on here. Last time I was here, it was like reaching its tipping point, but still had a solid 30-50% of randomness. Now it's just like a quarantine thread where we go to argue our pet issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
I keep a little notebook at my desk I open every time I log into FTR or IRC that I call my Book of Spoon. It's next to my little biscuit tin that I keep your panties in. I'm actually currently running out of space, so if anyone's looking for belated birthday ideas for me, I need something larger than a moleskine.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Every time I get stuck in a story, or feel like my cast is too monochromatic or dichotomous, I flip through and wonder, "What would spoon think? What would his mother say if she were in the room for this conversation? If I were to force his Halo-obsessed brother to come to this event, what would he do?" Etc.
The technique never fails. Ever.
My daffodils have finally sprung from the icy twat-sucking soil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0AqE9dapV0
This is probably Wuf's fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by surviva316
My carefree daisies are growing strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by surviva316
How are your whoopsie daisies doing?
I have a hard time telling them apart from the rest.
http://i.imgur.com/himZD0M.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by surviva316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85Xsvbz88uQ
Peep how violence is glorified in the ghetto community. Tis a shitty casino around here in NYC (a ghetto part of Queens, specifically).
News article to go along with it: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2173208
Violence is the ultimate form of power in the world, and I think it should be glorified and respected more than it is.
It won't always be the ultimate form of power. One day we'll move forwards. For now we're still monkeys.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Chuck me a banana.
:banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I'm very interested in the idea of OngBonga starting a business helping people in some way. He seems like the kind of guy who is motivated more by helping people than money. I'd be willing to offer assistance in getting that off of the ground.
If I had to guess, he's motivated by nothing to do nothing, but when it comes to talking about doing stuff, expressing an interest in helping people sounds nicer than money.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Not that I really know enough about anything to type the words that I'm typing, but sounds like the combination of words that's most likely to get FTR's approval.
I'm not that interested in helping people. I'm far too selfish. Other people tend to get on my nerves. My perfect existence would be to live in the countryside with a dog or two, playing poker or growing weed, far away from the nearest city. I'm shit at poker, and growing weed is illegal. I'm out of ideas. I'm happy enough doing nothing, waiting for the law to never change.
Which OngBonga are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Now of course I want peace on the streetsQuote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
But realistically
Painting perfect pictures ain't never work
My misery was so deep
Couldn't sleep through all my pressures
In my quest for cash
I learned fast
Using violent measures
Memories of adolescent years
There was unity
But after puberty we brought war
To our community
So many bodies dropping
It's gotta stop
I want to help
But still I'm stepping
Keeping my weapon
Must protect myself
The promise of a better tomorrow ain't never reach me
Plus my teachers were too petrified in class to teach me
Sipping thunderbird
And grape kool-aid
Calling Earl since my stomach was empty
It seduced me to fuck the world
Watch my li'l homies
Lose there childhood to guns
Nobody cries no more
Cause we all die for fun
So why you ask me if I want peace
If you can't grant it
Niggas fighting across the whole planet
So there can never be peace
Will there ever be peace?
Or all we all just headed for doom,
Still consumed by the beefs,
And I know there'll never be peace,
That's why I keep my pistol when I walk the streets
'Cause there can never be peace
Somebody owes me
Will they control me?, nah
I ain't a hater playa
But I want all you got
Your babies have babies
Now we fighting each other
My dogs got rabies
They biting each other
And it ain't hard to find a friend like mine
Big fully is a bully
And he don't mind dying
And I gotta be bright
Miss sign after sign
Time after time
After time after time
And I don't like nobody
They don't like me more
And I'm cool with that finally
But they heard it before
Dog
We living in a prison
Losing our religion on 'em
Thanks given when thankful just for living in hell
Damn homey I don't mean to be harsh
But it's the devil in the ghetto trying to tear it apart
And if we make it up out
We still stuck in the dark
Will there ever be peace?
Just the peace in my heart
Never
The only peace we got
Is the peace in our heart
Or the peace in our mind
Right there in piece that we hold in our waste line
Feel me dog?
C'mon
Will there ever be peace?
Or all we all just headed for doom,
Still consumed by the beefs,
And I know there'll never be peace, (never)
That's why I keep my pistol when I walk the streets
'Cause there can never be peace
Things are changing
Nigga you better fantasize
I'm only concerned about me and mine in these times
The world is a ghetto where peace is not a part of it
We all gon' need God if we plan to get out of this
Niggas spending too much time hating on each other
Niggas buyin' guns
Load em up
Aim at each other
And the victim is you and me
The secret is true indeed
The good die
Mostly over bullshit
Repeatedly
Deep in me there's a part that wants nothing but love
But the rest of me knows war is what's waiting for us
So I stays ready
Keep my pay heavy and boss up
Stack my funds and my guns
Never rely on luck
Asking God to point out the imposters
Never let no weapon formed against me prosper
Cause they'll never be peace
So don't rely on it
Soldiers die for
And in the ghetto, they trying for it
FUCK PEACE
Will there ever be peace?
Or all we all just headed for doom,
Still consumed by the beefs,
And I know there'll never be peace,
That's why I keep my pistol when I walks the streets
'Cause there can never be peace
Shit, fuck peace
On the strength 'til my niggas get a piece
We cant have peace
How the fuck we gonna live happy if we ain't got none?
You motherfuckers is smiling, but I'm mean mugging
Why? Cause gotta be thugging
I've seen drugs done turned this motherfucking hood out
All us niggas acting up
Wild ass motherfucking adolescents
These niggas ain't even got no childhoods no more
How the fuck can you have a childhood and you have a funeral every motherfucking weekend
And you motherfuckers talking about peace?
Nigga, it ain't no motherfucking peace
You ain't seen the news motherfucker?
You ain't heard?
Little babies getting smoked
Motherfuckers killing their whole family
Li'l kids getting thrown off buildings
Motherfuckers gettin abused
Peace? Niggas you out your motherfucking mind?
Fuck peace
We can't never have peace, 'til you motherfuckers clean up this mess you made
'Til u fucking clean up the dirt u dropped
'Til we get a piece
Fuck peace
Westside
Is there no movement toward weed being legal in UK?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I realize that I'm asking this at the risk of starting a huge yawnfesting "fuck pot laws" grumble in the randomness thread.
Don't worry, I'm tired of beating that drum too. I don't think the laws are going to change in my lifetime. I remember thinking 15 years ago that in ten years time it'll probably be legal. We seem to be in that same place now. What do the govt do when one of their advisors suggests legalising it? They sack him. They have no interest in legalising it. That's not gonna stop me smoking it, but it'll sure make me think carefully about growing.
Wow. So how are you gonna feel when there's an issue that's so central to your lifestyle and essence where the US actually has a more progressive and less puritanical approach?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Surely whenever you take some bitchy jab at the states, someone will be able to jump in and be like, "Yeah, but at least we can smoke weed here without being {insert thesaurus buzzwords for oppress, swine, tyrannical, etc}," and you will have no choice but to mash your face into the keyboard until the dissonance in your cognition and abyss in your chest is somehow resolved and filled (respectively, ldo), which of course they never are, so a week later, the Daily Mail runs the headline "Welfare Queen Found Half-Rotted in His Apartment after Meeting His Senseless, Face-Mashing End."
Well, I guess I ended up answering that question for you, now didn't I?
You can still grow weed, it being illegal means you can look forward to a good profit margin.
I don't need to have any moral high ground on which to stand, when I slap down the Yanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by surviva316
A lower profit margin can be balanced out with higher output, without the risk of prison.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackvance
The Persian one, not the Iranian one. <3Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
Anyone recommend any good tycoon-style games?
Go outside and open a lemonade stand, noob.
ALLAHQuote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
Awful read, I'm gonna want my money back for those poker coaching lessons now.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Edit: or maybe I whooshed on a troll p[srt. Fuck it, bed time.
Edit 2: That uglyword should be "post". Not "sport" or "shirt".
Sorry for the confusion, but to clarify, this was a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
It was mostly obvious, but if I come firing with "fuck off troll" then you claim to be serious and I look like a dick for being rude to someone seemingly being kind. I don't really give a fuck about getting trolled, it amuses me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
But if it's legal you'll have to compete with corporations.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
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I've had this discussion with keith. Corporations are primarily interested in profit. They'll go large scale. They'll use pesticides to fend off mites, they'll use cheaper nutrients, they'll have larger crops that are more difficult for the growers to maintain... I won't touch the corporations when it comes to quantity, but I'll have better quality and will be able to sell, albeit at a lower price than the curent black market price. The premium weed will be coming from small time growers whose motivation is quality, not quantity. Sure they'll outcompete me when it comes to the biggest slice of the market, but I could make a living so long as the price doesn't crash too much. Even at £50 an ounce, it's a high value crop, and that's 25% street prices. I don't mind competition, I'm not looking to make millions. I just want an income, preferably a legal income.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackvance
keith points out that if it were legal, then anyone could do it. That's a valid point, but it's not as easy as people tend to think. There's a lot that can go wrong, especially if you don't have enough time to look after it properly. Most people will do their first one while still working, and it'll be too much for them. They'll get a substandard crop and will lose motivation.
If it were legal, I'd have a business plan within hours, seeking loans to get me up and running.
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This forum should support .gifv.
http://i.imgur.com/kUB37Bl.gifv
so this one time a girl proposed to meQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
my response was to laugh, and then not notice her tone when she asked
'why are you laughing?'
and to instead answer with more laughter and
'you're obviously taking the piss. you cannot be serious!'
oops.
guess i read that situation all wrong.
fast forward a year or so and we'd eventually broken up and i was somehow cruising on a yacht with her mafia dad somewhere in south america and an image of concrete encased flashed through my mind
all's well that ends well
Aaaaaand I'm dead. I have died.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
I know there's no poker in the commune etc., but I'm not sure if you all know that I've had a weekly strategy column here on FTR for about the past two years. I took a couple of hours yesterday to put together a complete listing of all of the strategy columns themselves in order of date (along with links to the discussion threads), and it was a massive pain in the ass to put all of that together since it's not exactly neatly listed anywhere and required a lot of Googling. Here's the link if you want to take a look: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...gy-198959.html
so sweden has mixed gender public toilets, and usa and canada has hysteria over which room transgender people should use.