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this is unacceptable because this character, I know :x
pretty sure any new actor for daario would be an improvement. he looks like the toughest decision he has to make is which drum circle to join.
daario is supposed to be stupid as hell.
Shh. None wants your book-tainted interpretation of characters.
my bad. i didnt think it was close cause show him is stupid as hell. will use better judgement in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
lol awesome. "bestest thing evar is to make love to womanz who want dat love making" was always facepalm
i hope jaqen kills him
Yeah, I mean, it's not big deal obv, but it certainly infringes on the line-- so I pointed it out.
I personally thought he was supposed to be suave and pretty smart, in that he orchestrated that whole shebang. *shrug*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Krz-dyD-UQ#t=338
Stupid funny.
i am glad you show watchers have finally started calling robert his true name of bobby b
here you go friends.
http://countingdownto.com/countdown/313461
countdown to s4.
Bookmarked.
cant wait for season 4. I watched seasons 1-3 in October through HBO Go thinking that season 4 was already airing and i was going to catch up. soniwasdissapoint.jpg when i found out that season doesn't air until next year. It known how many seasons there will be total assuming ratings support it?
If you account for books that aren't written yet, and the current pace that they cover the books, 10 seasons minimum. However, supposedly HBO intends to do it in 8. This will be impossible without eviscerating the source material, not to mention the fact that GRRM is likely to fall behind the show in writing future books (assuming the breakneck 8 season pace).Quote:
Originally Posted by bode
is there anyway I can watch this free somewhere any streams? nvm i think project tv has got it
Try the Interwebs. Nvm, you found it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Bigcity
I guess each of us had a point where we didn't know how to find this stuff. Yet, still, I'm always baffled when someone pops up with a question like this...
Well fuck, I just learned that GRRM likes Shakespeare. Couple this with how often we hear Valar Morghulis (all men must die), and I'm pretty sure most of the characters will die by the end
It's the most pirated TV show in history; it'd be pretty sad if you couldn't find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Bigcity
more s4 set pictures trending to the front page of teh reddits. show watchers beware
stay the fuck off /r/gameofthrones if you dont want massive fucking spoilers
i already assumed that was the case. no way in hell i'd discuss GoT on reddit
Is this series good? (stupid question?).
I'm thinkin' about purchasing a late christmas present for someone & had considered this series. Worth it?
Just get him Season 1. It'll work.
What I wonder is why people even bother asking if GoT is any good. I mean, have you not seen the cover? It's fucking Sean Bean dressed as fucking Boromir sitting all deep like on a throne of swords. And he has his own sword
It that doesn't tickle your fancies, nothing tickles your fancies
Will do. thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
GRRM goan die before he finishes. Luckily the HBO dudes have an idea of how it ends if so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renton
Not sure what pace you mean. 3 seasons has got them through 2.75 books. There will be 7 books so 8 seasons is aboot right.
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Originally Posted by BennyLaRue
NO. NO. NO!
If you measure the books in game of throneses, you've got GoT (1), CoK (1), SoS (1.5), FfC (1), DwD (1.5), WoW (1.5), DoS (1.5), for a total of 9 books. To be fair they'll probably cut tons out of the later books and be somewhat correct in doing so, so I guess 8 seasons is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by BennyLaRue
s4 previews from hbo
https://vine.co/GameofThrones
pretty sure this ^ guy was on my tableQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Did end up picking up first two seasons for the wife. Been falling asleep during season 2... gonna have to watch it again :(
Season 4 coming out on April 6th
IVE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR DAYS!
START THE DAMN SEASON BEFORE I PISS MESELF.
bikes, maybe one of these helps you with your anxiety
http://i.imgur.com/OZMd1TH.gif
http://i.imgur.com/MKRkBVa.gif
Who doesn't love pork sausage?
I feel like some serious shit's gonna go down. Not afraid of spoilers from trailers because obviously they're only going to put things in that aren't new developments. Like every part with El Khaleesio is just the same exact thing she was doing in the previous season. This suggests to me that maybe her story gets wacky and unforeseen stuff happens. So far, there have been virtually no surprises with her.
If Tywin ever dies I'm gonna be a sad sad panda
http://i.imgur.com/OZMd1TH.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by bikes
Looking forward to this season. Sundays are going to be awesome for awhile with both GOT and Cosmos!
[12:29am] [geoo] [22:50:10] <@bikes> RECAST DAARIO UPSETS ME
[12:29am] [geoo] I AGREE BIKES
[12:30am] [geoo] just watched the ep and was like wtf
[12:30am] [geoo] tho I wasn't in love with the old actor either
[12:30am] [geoo] BUT NEW ONE IS NO BETTER SO WTF
Arya's first kill. I think she's got the taste for it now.
Her second kill. Don't you remember this scene?Quote:
Originally Posted by jackvance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnsqCyyqvqE
Oh crap I forgot. It's been so long. Well that ruined the magic of that moment for me lol.
She also stabbed a stableboy in season one. Frankly, there are few characters that we've seen kill more people.
The fight in the inn was apparently necessary for her to have a revenge and to retrieve Needle, but it felt tired and repetitive. I'd have been happier if Hound had taken care of the situation purely with charisma this time.
Was surprised not to see Stannis in the first episode. I had a feeling he's going to be even more important this season but we'll see.
I kind of liked the original Daario because there was something unique about him. The new one is terribly generic.
Wtf is Oberyin revealing his intent to revenge the Lannisters to the smartest Lannister??? Is he just so arrogant or is it some kind of a diversion?
Sansa getting that necklace was very intriguing. We haven't seen that necklace before have we? The editing was really ominous. I had an idea that the necklace will turn out to be a magical/mechanical device that will kill her and the fool, forgot his name, will regain his knighthood as a reward. Just a tought;)
Daario recast was much needed. The actor is an HBO alum from Treme. I can see not being super impressed with him from the first episode, but he was quite good in Treme, so give him a chance.
God i love her blood lust.
Did you hear what they did to Elia? Martell revenge-lust is probably the worst kept secret in Westeros.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fielmann
People also seem to forget that the Martels have two young Lanisters as wards.
Yeah, Arya is cool and collected when she takes care of business.
Maisie Williams is a great actress, pretty unique for someone her age.
Shae's a goner. I feel like Tywin or Cersei having her killed isn't their style, but something big has to happen where Tyrion gets in major shit over Shae. All this time I thought that Shae had to have some secret magic power or whatever, because her character was so worthless and pointless and idiotic that nothing made sense. Now I see she's a device for the sole purpose of bringing Tyrion down. Regardless, she is one of the worst characters in TV and needs to fucking die. For a brief moment I thought "maybe I'll just quit watching this whole fucking show on principle" during the stupid Shae scene. It's ironic that GRRM has written so many female characters so well, but then Shae ends up being nothing but the worst kind of bratty batty bitch stereotype
That's ridiculous wuggy, tyrion and shae are going to live happily ever after 95% guaranteed.
Don't blame GRRM, this actress can't manage to portray any genuine emotion. Contrast with Jeoffrey, a despicable role but at least he sells it. Makes me wonder if Shae was this awkward in the books also. I can't imagine that being the case.
The actress' portrayal is definitely atrocious. However, the writing for her character also sucks. She doesn't do anything other than yell at Tyrion for not fucking himself over to run away with her while he tries to keep her from being too loud and getting in even more trouble
Also I'm terribly unconvinced of Tyrion's love for her (or hers for him). The whole thing, from writers/directors to actors, has just been stupid. The sooner she dies, the better
On another note, Oberyn is awesome. You know he's gonna be special because he's a "second son". Regardless, everything about him is great. The new Daario is fine, but people hate him (just like the old Daario) because men loathe other men who act suave. Hound is still the best character and I'm not terribly excited about when Arya leaves him to go chase A Man whenever that happens. Part of me feels a Lannister will die this season, but not sure. Probably the only storyline I'm not interested in is Shae, but I fear there will be a serious lack of Blackfish this season. Oh, also not a fan of the Doucherhood Without Banners. Shit is way too Robin Hood. And the Night's Watch still sucks. Fuck self-righteous institutions and their stupid honor. Everything they call honor never actually is
According to how everything went down, it has to be Sansa. Which is awesome. I hope she's on the lam now, trying to sneak away. I remember back in s1 I thought she was going to marry him and either poison him or strangle him as he slept.
Maybe it wasn't her, but the signs do point towards her a lot more than anybody else
I know I picked a Lannister to die this season, but I must say I was surprised by this. I thought if Joff was one to die, it would be by Tyrion retaliating after he murdered Shae, but I didn't think much more about it because that path ultimately didn't make much sense anyways. His death shouldn't have been that hard to see, though, because of the Stannis leeches, which obviously worked with Robb
I think you're wrong. Sansa was shock-faced.
It was Baelish. The chaotic state of things were settling down. He can't have that, now can he?
I've looked forward to this day for a long time.
They sure drew the awkwardness out to the maximum possible with Joff talking but his death did surprise me. And the old woman did it, I'm positive. Right when Tyrion picks up the cup, she glances at him with this ominous vibe to it and you already feel from that moment something is going to happen. She knew the cup was poisoned, she did it.
Oberyn or Baelish are too obvious to have done it.
Yes! Some glad it's back, been so long since it was last on :D
I might agree, but my problem with it is that putting it in the pie is a logistical problem. Unless there is a custom for the king and only the king to eat pie for a couple minutes before anybody else does, many other bodies would drop. But they didn't. I'm sure Baelish doesn't have a problem with this, but I have a problem with the poison being in the pie if Joff was the only person to die. Perhaps in the books, many people died, maybe Margaery also died, because it only makes sense she would eat a bite briefly after Joff, but the show decided to make it just Joff who diedQuote:
Originally Posted by boost
While it could be the pie, due to the lack of multiple deaths, I think it being the pie is a problem, so that makes me think it was in the cup. The best explanation for that by far is Sansa or something that was deliberately not shown. Sansa's "surprise" could also be exhilaration of it actually working. Her wanting to leave before it happened but after it would have been put in the cup is probably just a coincidence, but it could be a sign she did it. Dontas approaching her like that could be as well, but that could also be a part of Baelish's plan
Regardless, I now think we may end up finding out that it was Baelish or something we can't predict on the evidence. However, if it was Baelish and it was in the pie, there are other holes that make it not work like it realistically would
If it's a Tyrell, it's stupid. It's super not Oberyn, that's even stupider. There's an outside chance it was Tywin. He does have motive, but he also has anti-motive. He did once say he's going to get the Tyrells back, but this only kinda sorta weaksauces that. He also could have purpose to get Joff away for other reasons, but not doing so is still probably better
I just wonder if this will spell doom for Tyrion. I can't imagine GRRM would have killed him this early, but maybe. Somebody is probably going to die, but I imagine that can be avoided, since the only person who loved Joff was Cersei. Other than that, Tommen can be the new king, with Tywin as regent, and things would go on like normal. In that respect, it makes it being Littlefinger seem a little pointless. This shouldn't create much chaos at all, since Tywin was always the one with the meaningful allegiances. Come to think of it, if it's LF, his motive must have been to keep a royal baby from being made and keep the Tyrells out of things.
I guess it probably is LF and the poison was in the pie, but red herrings have been set up, and I never like those if they're not logistically sound
Speaking of Oberyn, WTF was up with his hand running over the candle fire? Did he flinch, did he not? Is he a dragon?
And what was that fat chick's name that Bolton came in with? Wyla? Like Ned's supposed fling? Did Ramsey call her mom?
Nah.
Real world wedding tradition has the Bride and Groom always eating the first slice before anyone else eats. There is no stretch to assume that in GoT the same would be the case, and especially at the wedding of the king, you can assume he would be the first to eat. And even if his bride eats first, Marg dying would not have a dissimilar effect in regards to chaos. I don't know why you think several minutes is needed. If it was the pie, the poison was very fast acting. You're inventing holes that aren't there.
It was pretty obvious that it was in the wine, why are you talking about the pie?
It is super acceptable for the bride and groom to get the first pieces long before others, but strange for just the king before the queen. If I'm writing this story and I put it in the pie, I'm also killing Margaery, because it took at least a minute for the poison to act, and it would be super normal for the bride to also get pie in that time. Not to mention that others had pie on their forks, moving towards their mouths. The hole is that this means that the queen was left out of the equation. Margaery not dying *can* be explained by Joffrey being an asshole and just scarfing down pie while even the bride chills. If that's the case, however, it creates a different hole in that nobody else, who had been served pie and would be expected to eat while Joff was munching and batting around Tyrion, died
Regardless, I'm now guessing it was Baelish, and I'm just going to accept the holes because they're not the most meaningful things. They only matter in an attempt to Sherlock Holmes it
I'm a little upset he's dead honestly. Joffrey's scenes were the best in the whole show. He was so arrogant and violent every scene was thick with tension over what he might do
Oh the point that Dontas whisks Sansa away immediately being a part of LF's plan making Tyrion look bad is very strong. Tyrion is married to her after all, and LF wants to be married to her. LF could easily know that Tyrion is likely to be a fall guy no matter how it goes down, and if Sansa is gone immediately after, it makes him look even more guilty
The effects did not take minutes. You are wrong about this, and your whole argument rests on this assertion.
Furthermore, I already explained that if it was Baelish, then who died was not super important so long as it at least included Margery or Joffrey if not both-- and wedding custom dictates that this would be the case.
It was 50 seconds from bite to cough. I assumed it was closer to 1:20. I think what can explain why nobody else at the front tables ate was due to pausing to watch Joff harass Tyrion. He snatched the plate from Margaery as she tried to feed him the second bite. I think I was wrong, this does all make sense for letting Joffrey be the only death. Most weddings would involve Margaery taking a bite before feeding Joff the second, but it can easily be reasoned that this wouldn't be the case since Joffrey is Joffrey
wtf is wrong with you people, how can you even postulate that it was the fucking cake. cup and it was either his wife or the grandmother. with grandmother being 9:1 favorite.
if it was the wine and wife or grandma, it means the drop was made off camera and in front of everybody. lazy for my tastes. if sansa did it, it means she needed to pick a cup up off the floor in a spot where briefly nobody could see, but if it was the wife or grandma, they never had that opportunity because the only window was very short while they were wheeling out the pie. plus the tyrells have the least to gain, unless there is some new strategy that hasn't been made apparent to the audience yet. the tyrells dont gain much by killing joffrey, but they could gain much by killing both joffrey and tywin if they also had some major secret backers
So you want it to be sansa so it's "less obvious" or whatever when nothing about sansa's character suggests she could ever be part of such a plot? She's so passive and mousey and such a good pure girl or whatever the sansa theory makes no sense from a character development POV.
Also what luck said.
I'm now sitting on the side that nobody has accurately guessed it, or at least explained it well enough. Even a theory that the poison was meant for Tywin instead of Joffrey has meritQuote:
Originally Posted by d0zer
About Sansa, it isn't in her character as we've seen it, but it is as plausible as can be with regards to an implied character arc. We are seeing her get harder and harder. I guarantee we're going to look back on Sansa and see that in the beginning she was as naive as can be, but by the end she became as grown up as can be
maybe in the end, but we're not there yet. All the scenes where gramma peels back the layers of cuntiness on joff are wasted as strange misdirection otherwise.
I'm with wuf in thinking that those who are confident are over-valuing their clues. As of right now, I think there are far to many unknowns and ambiguities to even say that it was the pie or the wine, much less who did it and who was involved.
those don't strike me so much as misdirection as the kind of thing that writers like to do (they're all English majors, after all). Writers adore things like symbolism and symmetry, especially in the elite media environment where single episodes are submitted for Emmys instead of single seasons. Basically, in an episode about the king dying, writers are apt to add a whole lot of subtlety about kings dyingQuote:
Originally Posted by d0zer
To me, Pycelle being sent to the kitchen is plot misdirection, while Olenna saying stuff about killings at weddings is milieu setting and hidden nuggets for a rewatch
reek is such an awesome char...nearly shat myself during the shaving scene.
This seems like a good explanation of who did it.
edit: possible spoilers
http://imgur.com/gallery/2DtPH
there are no possible spoilers. only definite spoilers or not spoilers. which is that?
I was happy to see it and also surprised that it happened this soon. The only bad thing is that Arya didn't get to do it.
Well it's all just images from last night's episode, but I'm thinking that whoever did it might have read the book and known exactly what to look for.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I have not read the book (books?), so I have no idea. That's why I said possible spoilers.
i wouldnt click the link JL posted unless you wanna know who it is. it's basically bulletproof. im pretty sure it will get out and 2p2 will be discussing it too (they already are, partly)
it could be that bookreader found the right frames, but it could also just be by watching the frames closely, as all the details are right there
that's the risk run discussing a show like this. the bookreaders aren't the ones finding the spoilers, it's people watching it, finding all the details. just like the breaking bad ricin. how that happened would have surprised everybody if it wasn't for the investigative internet
the slide show is definitely a book reader
which means he's definitely a douchebag. non-bookreaders would have figured it out within a few days though
Yeah, some of my friends have read the books but most of them have been cool about not giving shit away.
Spoiler:Boobies to die for:drool:http://i.imgur.com/CgktFYz.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/YMNs9Or.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/QaUIQo3.jpg
you seriously just posted a spoiler tag without explaining what it's relating to and for whom it's a spoiler? why are you posting anything that's a spoiler in the first place?
honestly, we should just avoid the this fucking topic completely.
mods,
you should delete everything to do with these potential spoilers, it's about as affective as the pull out method, eventually she gets you for 18 years. delete this shit!
i no has mod powers anymore to police teh thread =(
you spoiler babies, it's just images from the last episode. Only a spoiler if you haven't seen the latest episode and then the rest of this page is a spoiler too.
i am about six million percent positive chippy came up with that joke all by himself
It's only a spoiler if you haven't seen episode 2, didn't need spoiler tags.
She's not half as bad as the son that killed the farmer's boy and whose story line they spent hours on last season without it going anywhere. And it's still continuing. I half expect him to just die from pneumonia without having any impact on the story going forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I am annoyed by most of the romance in the series. It's such an epic story, you're really not making it any better by punching it up with soft pornography and romantic comedy.
I'd spend an hour in a bouncy gym with Fat Pie before five seconds talking to Shae's stupid face
Ditto on the romance sucking. Most of it isn't that good. Easily the worst part of the show. Ygritte and Jon Snow was not bad, and if Sam and Gilly was ever pursued I suspect it would be okay. But all the others suck. Jorah's supposed love for Dany is nut low. Maybe that dynamic existed in the books, but it absolutely does not in the show. Robb and Talisa was a frog fart. Jaime and Cersei is boring. Tyrion and Shae is daytime soap
Ruffle me feathers, perhaps GoT writers doth not write love stories so well