That dude got issues, and (not) paying tickets seems to be the least of 'em
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That dude got issues, and (not) paying tickets seems to be the least of 'em
This is mostly fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
I want to make a living for myself. I'm just shit at poker and they won't let me grow weed. So fuck 'em. I'm not gonna go work in a shitty factory, a supermarket, or maccie fucking dees, and that's about all the job hope I have.
If you want to work for yourself and make decent money and you have no marketable skills, spend a day or two learning about SEO then start contracting yourself out as an SEO expert. Seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Ackowledged. Cheers. Looking at the wiki page now for an overview.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galapogos
That was a big skill to have in the 90's, but does that even work still? I guess for Bing it does, so nvm me.
SEO is still valuable, I've had to do it for my work recently. It's a little annoying but if you treat it like a game of strategy you can make it fun.
SE0 is dead.
It's all about SE1 now.
It's much different than spamming keywords hidden in the footer of your page like in the 90's but it's a very important skill, more so now than ever. Two big bonuses about it are no clients actually know what it is but know they need it, and Google constantly changes their algorithms so the playing field levels out frequently as everyone has to learn new stuff over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by oskar
At the company I work for we just hire someone with no experience in SEO and tell them you're now an SEO person, go learn it. And we actually provide good SEO service. We used to contract SEO firms until we realized so many of them are shit, and so many of them weren't doing anything we couldn't do on our own.
There's plenty of elite SEO firms out there that could destroy what we offer but clients just want to see improvement from what they currently have. Not everyone can afford a Ferrari, but if you give them a Civic they're more than happy.
Also, I should mention, it's something someone like Ong might like because he doesn't mind sitting in front of his computer all day. Plus, as Carmen Sandiego mentioned, there's an element of strategy to it as you try to find what works and what doesn't so if you find those little victories fun it can be a good thing to try.
My joke isn't getting enough love.
The above cry for attention made me lol if that makes you feel better.
I'm glad you got the joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by oskar
I get a lot of jokes. The trick is to laugh anyway even if you're not sure if it's a joke. If it isn't a joke they will ask you to leave. That's how you know.
Wuf, I'll have you know that my book is coming along nicely. I starts with two blank pages, then there's a page with a centered quote from the 1968 Turtles hit Eleanore reading:
It's a book about robots. And love. Once I sell the movie rights I will insist that it ends with a tracking shot moving in towards an array of maniacally blinking lights mounted on a beige console while Weasels Ripped my Flesh is playing in the background to let you know that the computer is going insane.
Eleanore, gee, I think you're swell
and you really do me well
You're my pride and joy,
et cetera
But I might instead go with the story about the canadian pedophile superhero who saves the world from whatever it needs saving from while also molesting young boys. It will get mixed reviews at first, but reach critical acclaim much later. If I go with that one we will have to switch the computer in the last shot with a moose (the moose is a metaphore). It's only a small rewrite really.
I will not participate further in this discussion, but I just wanted to say, Ong, you're wrong, and it's painful to watch someone be so wrong.
It's been several posts, so I'm not even sure which discussion you're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
Edit: As soon as I pressed to post, I remembered it was about the dumbass on the train.
Hi boost, welcome to last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
Dumbass is forever
jyms say something positive. I dare you.
I think almost everything Boost and Spoon post in this thread has been pretty much bang on. And i am also positive you are not trolling and really believe the tripe you are posting about this.
Tell me I should feel bad about it jyms. Tell me that I'm a bad person for disagreeing with you people who feel that their right to a peaceful journey is more important than the right to not be harrassed by people with no authority.
No authority is required for someone to ask to see your ticket.
This is not a case of standing up to tyrannical government. It's a case of an attention whore idiot being an idiot and causing a negative freeroll for everyone involved, including himself.
It's actually a case of both. I've not once disputed this guy is an idiot. But it's also a case of implied authority where there is none, which is a problem, at least as far as I'm concerned. Allowing people to believe they have authority when they have none leads to erosion of civil rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
You're right that no authority is required to ask for a ticket. Authority is required to remove that person from the train though, and they tried to bully him off the train by using the annoyance of other passengers against him. There are better ways of dealing with this.
Like I said earlier, this is why these guys failed to become police officers. They're not capable of problem solving; all they know is brute force, and when that fails they are clueless.
again:
"If you are traveling without valid Proof of Payment you may be removed from the vehicle and issued a fine of more than $100."
You can't keep using the service without following the basic rule, which is made clear as day on their website. That's why they needed to get him off the train, so they could bring the cops into it. He was refusing to comply, he was insisting he stay on the train and use the service even after refusing to comply with a rule which, as it clearly states above, leads to your removal from the train.
There was no brute force in this video btw. They were being incredibly patient and levelheaded.
Also, these are train conductors. I don't think train conductors are wannabe cops, I have no idea where you are getting that from.
This guy deserved all the animosity he received on that train. Those passengers were 110% in the right to be that annoyed with him. No one that actually worked for the train treated him in any fundamentally disrespectful or aggressive way. This was an incredibly singular act of pointless stupidity, which no one was prepared for. They handled this kind of unexpected retardation as best they could in the moment, and I'm actually irritated by the fact that you seem to have more sympathy for some stupid lowlife dumbfuck than people trying to just get through an honest day's work.
This is not criminal law. That's all there is to it.Quote:
"If you are traveling without valid Proof of Payment you may be removed from the vehicle and issued a fine of more than $100."
No, but they were flustered, and if the law allowed them to use brute force, they very probably would have done. They didn't know how to handle it, that's my point.Quote:
There was no brute force in this video btw. They were being incredibly patient and levelheaded.
It's part of the contract he agreed to when he got on. If he doesn't like it, then he shouldn't have gotten on.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Even if he signed a contract in blood, it's not cirminal law.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Even so, walking on to a train is not the same as signing a contract, and to suggest it is is not only ridiculous, but dangerous. Can gmml say that anyone who posts in his forum is signing a contract accepting whatever he puts in the small print? He can try, but it's worth as much as my pubes.
Your points are all over the place. It sounds like you're both unreasonably criticizing their handling of the situation, which in my eyes was 100% appropriate given the weird unexpected nature of it, and criticizing the fact that he needs to even show them proof of payment. You're saying he's a twat but then also saying he has the right to a peaceful journey, which sounds like you're saying he has the right to use the service without being hassled or asked to get off the train even though he won't use proof of payment. He doesn't have the right to peacefully use a service without complying by its basic rules, and he needed to get off the train when they told him to. That whole video is them just trying to get him off the train. There's nothing else they can do other than physically remove him, which they didn't. What kind of problem solving skills are they lacking exactly? Please tell me what you think they could have done differently other than calmly try to reason with a brick wall while passengers are flipping out.
And using a service is a tacit agreement to the rules laid out by that service. And the people operating the service have every right to eject you from it if you are not complying, and have every right to bring you to the hands of the law if you violated their terms and essentially are trying to get away with stealing the service. What you're suggesting is nonsensical and anarchic.
I'm glad you asked...Quote:
Please tell me what you think they could have done differently other than calmly try to reason with a brick wall while passengers are flipping out.
"Sir, please show me yout ticket".
"No, sir, I am a pedantic dick and I am invoking my right to be a dick".
"Ok sir, are you refusing to show me your ticket?"
"I am invoking my rights blah blah",
"Ok sir."
*prints off new ticket*
"There you go sir, that will be $2.75",
"I have already paid for my journey",
"Are you refusing to pay for this ticket?"
"No sir."
"$2.75 please".
"I have paid".
"Please show me your ticket sir so I can cancel this ticket".
"No sir, I am invoking my right to be a dick".
"Ok sir, please leave the train at the next station".
"No sir, I will not".
"Ok sir, I am contacting the police and informing them that you have refused to show me your ticket, refused to pay for this one I have issued you, and are refusing to leave the train."
And then they get on with checking tickets without holding other people up. Done. I'm not sure why they don't have a policy for dealing with this kind of stuff, this guy can't be the only dick in America who wants to make a point.
No, you get turned over to the hands of the law if you break the law, not if you violate terms of service. There is a HUGE difference between law and rules, and that is my entire point. Fuck rules, I am not bound by someone's rules just because they, or everyone around me, says so.Quote:
...and have every right to bring you to the hands of the law if you violated their terms...
Did the attacker do anything wrong? Or even unreasonable?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31302834Quote:
A Briton has been remanded in custody in Spain on suspicion of killing a man he had caught filming his daughter on a tablet, reports say.
The British man, 40, was reportedly held on Saturday after the German national was attacked in a restaurant in the resort of Sotogrande.
The victim, 43, had been arrested days before for allegedly possessing indecent images of children, the Civil Guard told the Press Association.
A spokeswoman for Spain's Civil Guard told the Press Association: "The discussion apparently began because of alleged recordings that the victim was making of the aggressor's daughter.
"When he saw what was happening, he took the tablet off him, saw the recordings, threw the device to the ground and attacked him."
He beat a man to death so I'm going to go for yes.
Depends how the dude died. Did he take one freak punch and collapse? It's not very easy to determine what happened based on that article.
There is a terms of service that you agree to when posting here.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
It's irrelevant whether you dislike it or agree with it, because it's how it is, and it's enforceable in court.
Theft is illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
You're really looking bad with this whole discussion.
Theft is indeed illegal. Refusing to show a ticket is not theft. In fact refusing to pay for a train journey is not theft, because theft is defined, as per wikipedia page, as "the taking of another person's property without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it". To describe fare dodging as "theft", one would need to inspect the legal definition of theft in one's country. I think in the UK this would be "theft of service", which is legally a different crime to theft because property has not been taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Not in a criminal court.Quote:
It's irrelevant whether you dislike it or agree with it, because it's how it is, and it's enforceable in court.
And I look bad? I don't know if any of you have noticed, but that really is not a priority for me. I'm just talking shit. If you think I look bad for sharing my opinion, then you should probably take a look at your definition of "bad" and perhaps seek to update it. I'm not the one being a dick on the train. I'm simply saying that this guy actually has some ground to stand on, imo.
I like how you're a criminal law expert but at the same time have to wiki everything.
Anyway I just ate a jar of roasted peppers in garlic and oil, how much are you meant to drain stuff like that* because although it was lovely I now feel like I've drank 200ml (guestimate) of sunflower oil.
I like how you think that being able to tell the difference between criminal and civil law makes one an expert.Quote:
I like how you're a criminal law expert but at the same time have to wiki everything.
I've never pretnded to be expert about anything at this site. Oh, except for growing weed. That's my area of expertise, at least it used to be.
Yeah no shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
operating word: canadianQuote:
Originally Posted by oskar
never metaphor i didn't like
<-('_'<-)(->'_')->
Ong is either one of the most stubbornly argumentative people ever to exist, or he is somehow managing to out-troll spoon.
The latter seems to not have a non-zero probability.
I have a story that would likely make door #1 a lock for you, but I promised my ex that I wouldn't tell anybody.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
Super LOL when he finally decided to show the ticket, and it bounced. Then he said something like ljold Kn, I have another " and that one bounced too
So, in fact, he didn't pay shit. He bluffed, they called him, gg
This has got me curious. Say more.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Funny thing is, I'm not that argumentative IRL, I just get carried away on the internet.
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
It's probably bollocks. I can't imagine anything from my few chats with Chelle that you'd be referring to. I don't think I've had private chats with any of your other exes.
You've already proven to be an unreliable narrator.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Now where's your God?Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
Oh god please don't say this. Please. Call me a cunt, a wanker, anything but an unreliable narrator.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
https://i.imgur.com/GA41Vaa.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Is that jyms with his mouth agape?
It took me about three years to become one of the top online gambling writers, and I'm considering expanding into other subjects. I'm really interested in the life coaching market.
This chick at the store asked me to text her, and I was like I don't really do that texting shit, but you can get at me on Facebook, Twitter, Google+, LinkedIn, Instagram, Tumblr, Pinterest, my website, Skype or via email.
Clicked on your instagram expecting pictures of fine bitches you've banged, instead got some gay food pics. Hardly life coach material.
I can't incriminate myself, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImSavy
at least i can feel a little less womanly about being on pinterest.
All foodies and guys who like women are on Pinterest. So many hot pics of women you know and seriously, the food shit is all on there now. You need a protein bar recipe or some sort of high protein/low carb, paleo or whatever type of food or just want to make a casserole or something for a family function and not be the one that always brings the buns you can't miss.
I already have the buns you can't miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by jyms
"Females are so privileged in America that a woman can pop out three kids from different men and have free money automatically deposited in her bank account, have a wide variety of mainstream corporations (even men’s organizations) fight for any future disease she may contract, and have feminist-friendly writers on sites like Huffington Post and xoJane explain how men should man up and marry her because she’s strong and independent, regardless of the fact that she’s dependent on her government husband. If you believe women are oppressed in America, it’s possible you’re mentally ill."
Someone should put their penis into spoon's mouth so he kows how it feels to be a bitch.
That reads harsher than intended, I don't want spoon to really get face raped, but it still made me laugh back so I'm not deleting it.
If I wanted to know how it felt to be a bitch, I'd [insert description of acting like OngBonga].
Zing.
In other news, I hate when the interviewer is not prepared. It's so fucking unprofessional.
Touché.
I think oppressed is an extreme word and creates an unnecessary us vs. them dialogue. Battling over whether women are or aren't "oppressed" misses the point. Why can't we just have a conversation about the realities of every type of person's situation in America? Why does it have to be a WE ARE or YOU'RE NOT oppressed deal? I just hate black and white semantics, I dunno... Nothing is that simple. Nothing simply is or isn't, the truth is always a an extraordinarily complex mosaic, and it lies on both sides, or all sides, I should say. Language creates barriers of distinction, of a duality where one thing must be right and one thing must be wrong. Us vs. Them dialogues are doomed to fail.
I mean at the end of the day that's just, like, your opinion, man...
In more interesting news, I would love to stick my penis in Spoon's mouth. I'm so tempted to be your friend on one of those social media thingies so you can see how big my cock is.
sometimes things are pretty straightforward though
http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFile...0/84464464.jpg
:P
Because not everyone can and not everyone wants to. Your honesty seeds an advantage to the dishonest.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
That is true, but my hope is that I'm preaching to the choir here.
Nah, I deny the racism and sexism I hold so dearly in my heart.
Just embrace it. The truth shall set you free. If you have hate in your heart, let it out! WHITE POWER!
I embrace it once a month and these outdoor ragers. Check your PMs.
This seems to be targeted at women, but it made me think of OngBonga as far as self-limiting beliefs go.
http://www.squeezist.com/three-reaso...t-good-enough/
Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
fuckingQuote:
trade in your band t-shirts and baggy jeans
never
more seriously, that's bad advice. dress the way you want, just dont be messy or ragged. the world ends the day i wear something other than carpenter jeans and a tshirt. if people dont like it they can go fuck a goose. what, am i supposed to trade my style for any of the shitty new styles? get bent
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Give her the D.
A lack of style is not having style.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Unfortunately your image is just about one of the most important things about you and a large part of that comes down to how you dress. It's also probably one of the easiest things you can fix that will have a major +EV outcome on your life.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
the part i quoted is just talking of a change of fashion. not everybody has to dress like a hipster for their social lives to workQuote:
Originally Posted by ImSavy
even then, stores simply dont sell stuff that is "out of fashion". you couldnt dress poorly if you tried unless it amounts to going ragged.
ofc i have to wear baggy jeans because im a muscle bound freak, but everybody knows that so there's no need for me to mention it
Broke a 1k rating on chess.com tactics trainer for the first time today #GM
All about using your dinner time at work doing something useful...
So back in early December I had an eye infection that started in the tear duct and had to do two rounds of antibiotics because fuck doctors. During the second round I ended up getting a pretty large floater in my eye and was getting flashes of light in the corner for two days. So since then the floater has faded a little but I have noticed I am constantly blinking to clear the blur out of my eye that has nothing to do with the floater just so I can read or even watch TV. I get to a family doctor yesterday who recommends I go see an optometrist immediately in the morning. First appointment I could get was at noon today, Within 20 mins of that appointment they are on the phone and calling to get me in to an emergency laser surgery for a pretty serious retinal tear. They were concerned that I could detach the retina at any moment. I have been walking around on the verge of going blind in one eye for almost two months. Working out and doing the stuff I do at work were considered high risk at this time too, Who knew? Anyway It's fixed,
Just wanted to point this out, don't gamble with your eyes kids,
Dressing better != dressing like a hipster, and in fact the two are hardly ever the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
damn, sonQuote:
Originally Posted by jyms
every once in a while i nail it in the fashion department (see: hat) but generally i'm flailing and barely have it together. if i was a dude i would have that shit so on lock. probably pull some Erik Satie shit, get 12 identical velvet suits and stick to that for life.
also there's a difference between people that mindlessly echo the homogenized stereotypical hipster look bc they're unoriginal and people that are genuinely artistic and creative and experiment with eclectic garments and styles.
glad you got a decent doctor to sort things out in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by jyms
when i first started keeping bees i never used gloves, a veil, or smoke and thought that was cool or something. I talked to some old-time commercial beekeepers and they laughed at me 'you'll learn, sometimes you need to use a veil. In the meantime at least wear sunglasses'.
I took their advice.
Fast forward a little while and i smilingly reflected on their words after a bee crawled into my nostril and freaked out enough to sting me and swell my face. I looked like i had bells palsy (paging bid!). Definitely don't gamble with your eyes.
says every hipster everywhere ever ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-22872...if-Br-th7u.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by daven
damn dude go easy. what he said wasnt that big of a dealQuote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
don't f with me
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Hi guys. Mostly jyms. Aubrey is an Astoria hippie so she gets a shoutout too. Wuf is a lovable puss puss.
We won WW tonight so I drank IRL. I'm a loser baybeeeeee, so why don't you kill me.
Also, hi Ong. Ong's my lawyer, guys.
I'd be a fucking outstanding lawyer if only I wore a suit.
How exactly does a hipster dress? What I mean to say is, when you really get down to it, how is calling someone or something "hipster" not the same as saying, "hey, look, that's not 'normal?'" I admittedly use the word, but mostly in self mockery, but I'm pretty sure that at its base, it is a reactionary mechanism to stamp out that which threatens the status quo-- and I don't know about you, but that's not really the type of meme I'm looking to propagate.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Um, yeah, of course they do. Why would we have language (fashionable, in style, etc.) to distinguish between what is and isn't in fashion if it was, as you seem to think, near impossible to be "out of fashion?"Quote:
even then, stores simply dont sell stuff that is "out of fashion".
Jesus jyms, what was surgery like?
I've been listening to Death Throes of the Republic again because Dan Carlin is my spirit animal, and he talks about Julius Ceaser being a member of the 'smart set'. How he would wear his tunic loosely belted around the waist and extend his robes down to his wrists with frills. He took conventional male dress, turned it a little fem and became the adoration of the young cool nobles.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
So if you learn your fashion from history podcasts like I do, a hipster dresses conventional-male with elements of fem splashed in and has an attitude of being smarter/cooler than the games he plays.
Bloody hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by jyms
Glad you got there in the end jyms
Goddamn. I missed this the first time. I'm glad you're alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by jyms
I've a similar story about my balls. No, not being funny. Well, that was kinda meant to come off as funny.
Maybe five years ago, I sneezed really hard. I'm a hard-sneezer. Almost directly afterwards, my left ball hurt a bunch. I've had random ball aches prior to that so I thought nothing of it. As the night went on, I noticed my ball was getting swollen and tender to touch. I rushed to my doctor and he immediately diagnosed me with a testicular torsion. He was on the phone with a surgeon before he finished the sentence. I was to get my scrotum opened and, if it was too late, get my ball taken out. If it wasn't, they'd untorse the torsion (untie the something, something cord). Well, shit, huh?
Luckily, twasn't too late. But, don't gamble with your balls, kids.
A sneeze so powerful it could literally twist a man's balls. Are you Zeus?Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
Not any more. I've been rather gun-shy with my sneezes after that incident. My doctor said it was less about the sneeze (though it played some part) and more about loose strings down there.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
That's nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690