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reverse psychology:
Above the forum link stuff (FAQ/forum rules/search/etc) there's a link that says "TEST POST - PLEASE IGNORE", which, of course, I immediately clicked on.
I can't immediately recall anytime that I've ever clicked on anything along the lines of Sticky: IMPORTANT, READ BEFORE POSTING.
/random
for some reason i read into that as I'll never regret, now as for the why i did, i have no idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by courtiebee
thanks swiggggg
that is a pretty kick ass avatar.
random question (subject line) from one of the fitness experts at 2+2:
"Whats the easiest way for inactive people to lose weight?"
:x
diet imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
eat smaller meals throughout the day imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by JL
become un-inactive
WRONGQuote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
easiest != bestQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Cut off things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
Nobody said the easy way would be the fun way.
lulz
Crazy genetics experiments. That's a sheepig, right?
sorry, that was my fault.
she said she was on the pill.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Warpe
LOL wat? So her grandma was secretly importing and cooking these pigs back in the day, even when they were on the brink of extinction?Quote:
“When I tasted this pig,” Ms. Bloomfield said of the Mangalitsa, “it took me back to my grandmother’s kitchen on a Sunday afternoon, windows steaming from the roasting pork in the oven. Back then pork tasted as it should: like a pig. This pork has that same authentic taste.”
WRONGQuote:
Originally Posted by swiggidy
Since i'll be on site at work and won't have to be in the office for the next 2 months, me and my brother made a $500 bet over who could grow the manliest, lumberjackiest beard. Ive gone like a week without shaving now and my FUCKIN FACE ITCHES! and is breaking out pretty bad too. Google failed me, any remedies for alleviation?
remedy? grow some fcking balls.
oh no, your face itches? a touch of acne bringing you down? I hope your boyfriend can whip you up some comfort food and cuddle with you during a Sex and the City marathon.
No, he's outta town. But what are you doin tonight?Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
Wash the sand out of your bergima.Quote:
Originally Posted by OP
holding bigred tightly.
I haven't cut my hair since thanksgiving or shaved since new years
the itch will go away
pics?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
wanna see what you can't have?
i wanna see if you can grow facial hair better than dave!
course he can hes a joo
i'm sure he can grow better than splotchy, sparse, white trashesque facial hair, if not, suicide immed
yeah, what am i saying? i bet that if i had a bit more testosterone, i could grow better facial hair than you.
I look like a wooly mammoth
time to shave all this shit
Before you shave it you need to make a video of yourself screaming "THIS IS SPENDAAAAAA!!!" And make that your new avatar.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
how do you pronounce Sauvignon, as in Cabernet Sauvignon?
Sow-vin-yonQuote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
So-vee-nyo.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sauvignon+pronunciationQuote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
pronounced "whine" imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
We up here in NORTHERN Maine prefer the more sophisticated RED Whine.... stupid southerners... with your soff maine accent.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisBCritter
verruckt zombies is fucking sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttt
Loo-cock-eeQuote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
Got my green and yellow FTR t-shirt today. If you see me in it, slap a brotha a high-five.
LOL, totally missed this! and you even kept the "whine" going too! Nice. FWIW, I enjoy wine, but prefer beer...Quote:
Originally Posted by kingnat
beat: I just dmang challenged my play money account on stars from $1k to $75k
sorry i was sleeeeeping when you asked for the hu2rollzzzzz!!!
spenda plays poker?
so when my dog was a pup, i taught him to spin. to do this i normally made him spin before he got his food in the morning. to this day, and he is 9 now, he spins relentlessly until he gets food.
that is freaking hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by will641
more than most think, still, a lot less than I shouldQuote:
Originally Posted by bode
come holler at my PLO tables sometime
fuck spenda and his poker
i'll play poker with anyone righ tnow
cmon srsly let's gooooooooooooooooooooooooo
i owned you bish
Holy fuck I just did the hardest run in my life. I ran in the Kansas City annual "Brew to Brew" run, where they run from a bar in downtown Kansas City to a bar Lawrence (KU). It's a 45 mile run broken up into 10 legs. It would be easy as anything but it was 38 degrees with a 35mph wind in our faces (constant wind, too, with gusts up to 50mph) as we were running west.
I had a really flat portion for my 4.7, but it was on top of a levee so I felt every bit of that constant 35-50mph wind as there were no trees or anything else to block the wind. I basically feel like I dragged a tire for 4.7 miles, it was that shitty.
Awesome thing is the race ends at a bar. I feel better everywhere because of the beer but my calves are killing me.
wait.. so you ran 4.7m or 45m?
Brag: I did this
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...2/DSC02546.jpg
next time Im in san diego Im going to do the big one which actually breaks and you can catch air off of it..
http://www.admit-one.net/webimages/wavehouse2.jpg
Boost please be more specific when you say "I did this".
Did you surf or did you do the girl in the picture, who happens to be surfing?
Do I have to teach you everything?
I heard he got her number but isn't calling her back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
I surfed.. There was this skinny (too skinny imo) blonde in my session though who was the only one without a wetsuit on and on the contrary had a string bikini on. She was next to me in line and goes "look at my ass" It was shivering involuntarily, "I cant control it, look."
Of course my ex is chilling there with her friends watching all of this. But I just looked at them and rolled my eyes and they laughed. Then my ex and her friend bought a few rounds of shots which I did inbetween my turns. Pretty ballin imo.
theres a 100% confirmed bot where i play. what should i do about it? i cba writing an articulate 2p2 post. i emailed the company but htey fave me a bs response. he wins at 6pt/100 btw
where is this?
learn to beat it.
imo the sites like the bots since they generate rake/games, and they only care enough to make the other players think they care
but if i couldnt beat a bot (lol yea right) i would out it no doubt
At what level? Doesn't seem very botish if this is small stakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaulPaul
Right, because poker is so incredibly complex that only humans can even begin to understand it's sheer complexity and awesomeness.
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Nobody who has posted in this thread plays better than an extremely well-written bot would. Period.
On a somewhat related note, there are chess programs available for download (e.g. Fritz) that can beat the best players in the world at chess, a game that has been studied IN-DEPTH FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS. And don't give me that perfect information argument either, it's a load of shit.
Didn't you see my post in the HSP thread? I am the next Durrrrr. Bring on the bots...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
I dont think anyone believes that it is impossible to create a bot, just a hell of a lot harder than it is to create a chess bot. A poker bot that could pwn the best players would border on true AI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
yesQuote:
Originally Posted by boost
a huge reason that the game is not proliferated with bots that can beat the majority of regs at 5/10 and below is imo because its just too much work for those who are strategically good enough to figure out how to operate software, plus the potential problems if discovered.
i know i could create an extremely proficient fullring bot, and if the best of the best got into making bots the games would really really suck, but reality is that that's just not what current bots are, or so it seems
I mean, just figuring out how to program it to avoid detection would take quite and effort I would think..
seems like a good way to go, although you would be giving up a ton of rb, would be to make a new account every couple weeks or w/e.
howd you do that??Quote:
Originally Posted by swiggidy
I disagree, especially on the AI comment. Researchers are having a hard time conveying commands to machines that a baby or a pet would be able to understand. Let's not go down the "true AI" route. We're talking about a game (specifically poker, but also applies to chess) that relies heavily on numbers and mechanics, something that computers happen to excel at.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
Read: http://www.livescience.com/technolog...re-robots.html
Chess, in it's modern form, has been played for over 500 years. It is the most popular game of its kind in the history of the world. We're going to say that it was in the late 90's that chess computers started becoming better than the best chess players in the world. I'm going to use '97, when Deep Blue defeated Kasparov, 3.5 to 2.5.
Exciting implications:
The best chess players in the world are certainly better at chess than the best poker players in the world are at poker. Give poker 500 years and you'll be where chess is at today (of course it would not take nearly this long in practice, largely owing to the advent of the computer and modern society, but you get my point. I'm also ignoring poker's own history, shoot me).
My guess is that anything more than a passing thought about developing a poker bot never really occurred until online poker. In addition, the understanding of poker has improved immensely since that time.
The game of poker is in its infant stages compared to chess, which for our intents and purposes we can just consider solved. It's close enough. I think this is part of the reason why it appears so easy to create a chess bot relative to a poker bot. Chess has been around and studied for such a long time. You can read all about the history of computer chess if you want, but it paints the same picture. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_chess
Let's start with this. NLHE, there are 1326 card combos we can have. By default, this leaves villain with 1225 card combos that HE can have. After the flop, villain can have 1081 card combos. Let's cross check all of our possible holdings (adjusted for preflop numbers, of course) with all of villain's possible holdings and run the equity calculations for all of them. Boom, done in a fraction of a second. Of course what to do with all of this information is a challenge, but it's something a group of great players and world-level programmers could hammer out given enough time. Google could do it easily. This is already far more powerful than some goofy ass 80th level abstract thinking that you're giving our world-class poker players credit for with your AI comment.
I could delve far deeper into this but I'd rather not. Time, unfortunately, is going to prove me right on this one.
edited to add: It's an irrefutable fact that winning bots have long existed. I'm guessing the person(s) that designed weren't exactly my description of "great players and world-level programmers", or "google"... lol.
ok so lately i've been talking to one of my ex gf's, and i wake up this morning to a text and voicemail from her. she won a trip to the bahamas, yay!
of course, party pooper that i am, alarm bells are immediately going off in my head. so she tells me she won it at a cavs game from the travel agent. being that she wants me to go with her, we're going to go meet the travel agent on thursday most likely.
what's the catch? (i seriously have no idea, but obviously it's something)
she wants you to design a bot for her than can beat anybody whose posted in this thread
what kind of a catch could there possibly be? worse case scenario she does something stupid down there and you ditch her and meet some other hot chick vacationing right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
perhaps this hypothetical other hot chick he would meet would want him to create a bot that could beat anybody who posted in this thread?
i was trying to imply that there was no free vacation and it was obviously some sort of sales ploy, not that this girl is going to try to deceive me. excellent point though.Quote:
Originally Posted by will641
haQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Depends. Did her seat get picked as the lucky winner out of an arena full of people or did she put her name in a draw. The latter is more likely a sales ploy than the former.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukie
You mean how did I resize (and crop) the image?Quote:
Originally Posted by kfaess
There are a ton of ways, I use irfanview for multiple reasons.
can you resize this one for me?
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1249/flynn.jpg
download irfanview, it's a small program and you don't need administrator privileges so you can install it at school/work or wherever you feel like
open image,
"Image" menu -> resize resample
type 180 in the width, if the height number is > 300, then change the height to 300
save
If you want to trim for a better fit, click+drag a region then
"edit" menu -> crop selection
lol, kfaess' genuine wonder and amazement of your cropping skills made me chuckle.Quote:
Originally Posted by swiggidy
eric, you make some strong points. And seeing as Im not a computer science major or even a good poker player, I cant really continue this argument. However I do remember when Ive seen it discussed before that it wouldnt be all that hard to implement a bot in a game where nut camping will win. However the big hurdles come in a game where bluffing is necessary, which means pretty much every game nowadays. But again, this is just something I remember reading went his discussion has come up before, so take it for what it is..
100nl FR imo. The bot would go unnoticed because everyone there plays like a bot anyway.
Also.
Are we human? Or are we dancer?
Omg kfaess don't tell me you're a syracuse fanQuote:
Originally Posted by kfaess
Certain types of games clearly lend themselves to being botted better than others.
Using the number of combinations available on the flop doesn't tell the whole story. You have to consider past actions to get an idea of how the villain plays, which will start ratcheting up your feature space, thus your complexity. I doubt any measure gets to the 10^120 or whatever sick number of chess moves there are, but that's at least partially countered by the hidden information.
And "solving" HU 100bb deep still doesn't solve the game. Going to 200bb adds another layer of complexity again, although I'd guess somewhere around 1000bb would be close enough to "infinite".
Like boost I am also not a good player, but there seems to be a lot of intuition involved, which you can't capture.
I'm looking forward to Lukie's epic bump in 2036.
well, I think using "intuition" to explain how the best of the best make decisions is short changing them. But I think I agree with your point.. youre pretty much saying that a ton relies on gameflow, something that seems like it would be really difficult to have a bot "understand." Like, bet timing can be an important tell, but its rarely as simple as quick = bluff and long = the nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by swiggidy
OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOQuote:
Originally Posted by Bbickes
dont like the killers eh? i think theyre okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by courtiebee
sexbots
All good points. I still feel very strongly about what I wrote before and to be honest, I'd rather the discussion just die because it's not worth it to me. One, I don't want to give people ideas on how to start, and two I don't want to come off as pro-bottish (I'm not).Quote:
Originally Posted by swiggidy
blah blah meow chow
what would you consider the ideal height for a male to be for the purposes of meeting/picking up/sexing/dating women?
6'2" maybe?
since this is the random thread i thought we could use some randomness:
It would take 11 Empire State Buildings, stacked one on top of the other, to measure the Gulf of Mexico at its deepest point.
The most money ever paid for a cow in an auction was $1.3 million.
1 in 5,000 north Atlantic lobsters are born bright blue.
Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell.
The plastic things on the end of shoelaces are called aglets.
There is a an island of plastic and trash floating in the Pacific ocean that is twice the size of Texas. (????wtf)
An iguana can stay under water for 28 minutes.
fuck igota go to bed
ya, I agree the discussion has pretty much run its course unless someone in the know drops some knowledge. However if they knew, then they would be botting up the games and living like a king, not posting here.