Originally Posted by
MadMojoMonkey
@Luco: I keep thinking of the teflon comment you made about BID a couple of games back in the mod thread. Something like, "BID does all kinds of wolfy stuff, but nothing sticks to him. It's like he's made of Teflon." (Note BID was a wolf.)
I keep wanting to ask you if you're getting the exact same vibe from him, because I can't help but thinking that I am.
As far as ong goes, He started out like a pure-bred villager, but as soon as he engaged BID, his tone and hunting absolutely changed.
BID has an amazing history of soul-reading ong's tone on early D1, that much is not in question. I'm on the fence about ong, so I'm tempted to believe BID a little bit. However, BID has revealed only misdirection when it comes to his actual read, despite months of asking him to 'splain hisself. I don't understand it, so I don't vote based on it.
QED
If BID wants to cry that I don't ever vote with him when he says ong is a wolf, then BID needs to teach me to agree with him so I can see what he sees.
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As for my own reads on ong... I think this is in his range to wolf like this, but it's not his standard, "my village game is so meta that you can't ever point to a thing I do as wolfy." thing.
His whole, "I'm not that good of a wolf." schtick is BS. Ong has had some amazing wolf runs. He badgered me into suicide one game (my bad, Hoopy and BID deserved a better teammate than me). He has an ego about his WW skills. The notion that he's not as good as Gator is like, "say something obvious, ong"... Gator's wolf rep is huge. He almost convinced me he was God in that World War Werewolf game... and JKDS was maybe the one who definitively saw through that fake claim.
Taking these together with my read that his D1 went downhill, I can safely say that ong has a lot of pick-up to accomplish, 'cause I don't think we can trust him at end-game with this baggage.