How long can Bran live for? When it's season 6 he's gonna look like an angsty teenager yet in the story will still be like 8 or whatever
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How long can Bran live for? When it's season 6 he's gonna look like an angsty teenager yet in the story will still be like 8 or whatever
I move to ban wufwugy for being a spoily book reader. HE KNOWS TOO MUCH
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Originally Posted by JKDS
I really like that arc.
Which makes me wonder if "this doesn't have a happy ending" is reverse foreshadowing, or maybe even it's sorta directed at the audience, and not even about Theon, but about the show as a whole.
He's obviously going through puberty now, very telling too when he suddenly looked so much older in his dreams. Doubtful he's going to die because he has his own storyline (sadly). I hoped the writer would atleast take into account that he's ageing. A substancial amount of time passes, for example Danni gave birth to her stillborn, so that was 9 months passing in the story already.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
Could be either. I do suspect that the whole story doesn't have a happy ending. My pick for the winner of the game by the end is somebody that we haven't yet seen as a player (or at all), doesn't deserve it, and constructs a lie about why he/she is the rightful ruler in the same way that the show has pointed out every previous ruler has. The endgame is the same as the beginning and every other point: chaotic and illusory.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
I've been considering going so far as to say that Dany doesn't even make it to KL. I think that would be good because if she does and she has her dragons, it's kinda the end of the story. So I have something like her rising up in Essos, conquering a lot of peoples and looking unstoppable and charismatic, but then her dragons start dying, and she goes batshit. I could enjoy the overall Danaerys story if she gains all the power in the world without "gaining all the power in the world"
On a different topic, I want Jaime to be back in KL more than anything. More than I want to know what's going on with Theon or Gendry or anybody. There's been a lot of growth in Jaime's story, and seeing him with his family and without his hand is curiously the most exciting thing for me. I'm assuming Bolton does send him back. I don't see why he wouldn't. Jaime's arc is constructed in such a way that he needs to return anyways
My read on Theon is that his father knows and approves of the torture and it's a part of forcing his son to be true "iron born". Yara probably knows but doesn't approve
I think the reason we're not seeing much of Rickon is because he's more important later, and if we saw a bit of him now, how much he ages would look really awkward.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackvance
Bran's story doesn't necessarily stop with him, it stops with Rickon, or something. IIRC Rickon saw his father in the tombs. He's got dat premonition too. My guess is it's of a more sinister variety than Bran and Jojen. If I was writing this, I would certainly make Rickon one of the most evil characters possible, he just doesn't know it yet. Of course the reason I'd do that is because every time he's mentioned, it's always with something creepy and dark: standing in the shadows while his mother ignores him, hanging with his scary ass dog in the crypt where he has visions of his father die. Granted, if Rickon does struggle with the Night and its Terror, I would think Bran would still have to be living to contrast him. Unless he kills Bran in the process of becoming a major player, which I love but I doubt will be the direction of the Stark family. However, it could be since Snow (and hey, maybe even Theon) will be sure to keep the Stark name good
All in all, I keep trying to find a way to seep into the meaning of the dire wolves. It can't be a coincidence that Ghost is a bright white color and Shaggy Dog is dark black and every time he's been prominent in the scene its when he's growling and barking
Can we talk about children of the forest? They've been mentioned directly in the show right, not just in the extras about backstory?
Haven't spent any thought on Rickon yet, but you might be on to something. I do think this is Bran's sidestory though, with the dreams he's been having, he made new friends on the way, his almost comical entourage of the friendly simple-minded giant and the angry woman. The way it's presented with the premonitions, this sidestory feels like it's going to be important. Sadly, might I add, as it's my least favorite. Once Rickon comes into play, I think it's more likely he'll have his own story.
Btw need new ep!
love that thread
Just had a thought and reread some posts from the last page. Aren't the eyes staring back at Arya simply the 3 people she had Jaqen kill? The darkness inside her is her willingness to kill, so it came at a price. How she's going to pay that price is what we'll have to see.
^I had that thought too, but I think Melisandre added "eyes you will extinguish forever", which suggests it hasn't happened yet
I miss Jaquen :(
Bro coulda been in ever episode for all you knowQuote:
Originally Posted by boost
Nah, his awesomeness is too pervasive to go unnoticed.
Easily my least favorite episode
Could Dany be any more badass?
I enjoyed it, but it was definitely a setup episode. Some exciting implications... The Hound and Arya is gonna be good gtd. I hadn't been previously annoyed by Bran's arc, but his scene in this episode was a drag. Fucking get on with it already. Theon was disturbing, it really has passed the "possible for a happy ending" threshold for Theon.Quote:
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So yeah, not the greatest episode, but it has me excited for the final three.
Yeah Dany was easily the best part of the episode. I am thoroughly pleased with her
I don't know how much of my problems with the episode stem from losing all interest in the Theon stuff. Sexual torture is a whole new level, and I just don't want to watch it. I hold realism as the highest aesthetic virtue, but I still can't handle certain kinds of realism.
The Brienne and the bear stuff was exceedingly silly. I can't stand action scenes with animals because they're always awful. I could ignore the ridiculous climb scene from the previous episode, but apparently not this one.
Looks like they breathed new life into Brienne. She was snugly written out of the story, but having Jaime save her does provide some good character development
I'm getting serious mixed messages on Talisa. Her scene with Robb was dripping with subtext, but two different avenues. We don't need to see how much she means to Robb unless something happens with that (like he loses her), but significant time in the scene was about just that. While watching the scene, I got the feeling she's begging to be killed, but that could be my bias. On the other side, why was she writing her mother, speaking Valyrian, and from Volantis if it isn't because she's a player too. Just watch as Melisandre is her fucking sister
Shae can die already
The Osha scene didn't need to happen. We already know about the wights and we already know she hates dark magic. The writers could push the plot to a scene down the road where those factors are all in play and do just fine without us also knowing about Osha's boyfriend.
Hound and Arya will be fun. I was initially thinking Jaqen would appear out of the shadows. Also a fan of the return of the God of Death. He doesn't get any play
Tywin/Joff scene was great, but not what I've been hoping for. I guess we're probably not going to get Joff going bonkers then Tywin bitchslapping him. Joff was acting like a reasonable adult for the first time in the series.
A little upset at how many opportunities Snow had to acknowledge that Ygritte knew nothing. I assume the writers saw that dynamic, but don't know why they wouldn't reference it. Maybe they want to make Snow seem stalwart by not having wit, but it also makes him brooding
I think I'm partially let down in that I expected this to be the episode where shit starts going down.Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
It's strange to have so much exposition this deep into a season. I've never seen anything like it before.
Not the best one no. The Dani stuff and the joffrey/Tywin confrotation were my favorite parts. Tywin was more cordial than I would have expected but it worked nicely, and Joffrey seemed for once to actually pay attention.
And now the crap.. more Bran snore stuff; Talisa gave me a strange vibe (was the actress distracted or should I read into that performance as it was intentional?) but I don't care about her. And Shae, just fucking die already. Maybe they're not showing us the parts where she's actually nice to Tyrion, but she never gives him any reason to actually like her. Since they met she's done nothing but complain and whine. Dump the bitch already. A friend of mine is only at ep 3 of season 2 and he already hates her with a passion. And it only gets worse.
The bear scene was remarkably done quite well, considering how animal scenes normally go. The only problem is that we lost so much needless time with it, while all you want to see is Jaimie return to King's Landing already.
The Theon torture, I liked it although I'm really starting to feel for Theon. It was so obviously part of the torture what the girls were doing, and that was played out pretty well. From what I've heard, the sweetness + pain mix is a WAY harsher torture than just pain. They actually did this in the middle ages to break guys that wouldn't succumb to just torture (not the chicks, but alternating torture with kindness). I liked that, the weird boy means serious bussiness.
But let's hope next week brings the action on.
I think greyjoy's getting way too much screentime. We get it, he's being tortured a lot, and the dude torturing him is a creative sadist. That's been established long before now, get to the f'n point :x
I would like to offer a moment of silence for Theon's legendary penis.
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This ep was written by GRRM himself.
ALL HAIL GRRM!
Explains all the extra naked.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
There is very little rising action this season, which blows since rising action is the most important aspect of plot, and one of the reasons Breaking Bad and Boardwalk Empire are so good is a steady focus on it. You can have shitty exposition, shitty resolution, and a merely adequate climax as long as the rising action is stellar. Season 1 had superb rising action and that's one of the reasons its among the best seasons of any show. In season 3, Danaerys' story appears to be the only one with somewhat steady rising action. The Jon Snow storyline would be #2, but it's severely lacking a few facets that would make it more directional, and thus feel like a steady incline.
The Theon stuff, Bran stuff, Arya/Gendry/Melisandre/Stannis stuff has no semblance of rising action whatsoever. I guess this was bound to happen when adapting novels
It's more just this episode though, the previous ones had better flow.
Im disappointed with the actor of jon snow. Hes not very enjoyable to watch, and half of that is because the actor took lessons from the Twilight leads. (not really, but i mean...he probably did).
Im having fun wathcing Theon suffer. Seriously, FUCK that guy. He burned some random kids and tried to take winterfell. Fuck that guy.
Noticed the possibly coolest part of the Tywin/Joff scene: walking into the chamber, Tywin pauses for a moment then continues forward again but the kingsguard doesn't follow. This is a demonstration of who's the real boss. Even the kingsguard knows. On first watch, I thought he was just pausing to gather his wits or pay respects to the crown or whatever.
This appears to be the first ep where the Lord of Light and Red God can be confirmed as the same entity. Did Syrio mention the god of death? If so, I have a theory that all these gods are the same. For a while, I've had a nagging feeling that the Lord of Light is merely masquerading as a holy entity, yet is actually demonic. Some evidence suggest this could be the case since this god creates evil smoke monsters, raises people from the dead, and loves to kill people in all these fire offerings and all the stuff with Jaqen. We kinda know that there isn't just one god, so this emphasis on the Red God being the "one true god" could be a little odd. However, I'm sure I'm wrong about all this because it doesn't seem the kind of thing this story is about
Isn't the Brotherhood in the same region that Jaime and Brienne will be traveling back to KL?
In other news, this season was partially ruined for me by the 2p2 mods and bookreader vigilantes
Also, looks like my kill list is way off. Brienne aint dying now that she was so close to death, and she apparently has some new purpose to play. Talisa isn't dying because she has a baby in her belly and speaks Valyrian. Shit is pissing me off. Bodies need to hit the floor
I'm a relatively casual watcher of the show, but I do read this thread. I'm actually a little put off by the latest Danaerys development. If you want to get your crown back take the boats and the gold and sail away. Don't stop at every fuk city and fix their culture (by RL 20th century standards). Her character just turned self righteous, and this driven leader turned into a royal bitch. I'm Danaerys and I'm keeping your money and will still make you appease me besides. What are you my ex-wife?!
Loved the Tywin/Goff scene. Would you like someone to carry you up the stairs? LOL. He was respectful, but pretty boldly telling the king to stop behaving like a child. And Goff is offended but knows reproaching Tywin might be a mistake. Really the first indications that there are limits to his bad behavior.
Ygritte is both hot and a great character. Making fun of Jon Snow and then telling him he may not tear her imaginary silk dress. Loved it.
Time for a new deathlist then. I'm thinking there should be someone from Dany's company. She has made a transition from 'good' towards 'bad' (which makes sense because in her original ultra-goodness she was not enough of a balanced character to join a fight for the throne) and there is time for some repercussions and sacrifices. Also, she has seen continuous success for too long. Also the 'We have powerful friends' clearly notes there are troubles ahead.
Selby shouldn't die, otherwise what was the point.
Mormont's death would suit very well. To die because of Dany and while fighting to free the slaves would be a perfect end to his life. However, there is that thing with the sword and with him being lord commander's son.
That leaves Missandei and/or Grey Worm.
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I'm still thinking Tyrion could die and I'm thinking it might be by suicide. He has been wrapped up in a classic tragic dilemma of love and obligations. Plus he has been doing absolutely nothing important nor interesting for the whole season (a book-keeper?!) so it would no longer be a great loss to the story or to the show. It also seems to me that Jaime's return to King's Landing and his personality transformation will somehow make things worse for Tyrion.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Ygritte died, even though it would be a pity. The conflict within Jon is made bigger and more sinister with each episode.
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Obviously, Theon's torturer will die as Theon gets free.
I end up enjoying these episodes more after the fact when I piece the stories together in my head. While I'm watching I find myself annoyed when they constantly cut to another storyline, but when I imagine them as a continuous piece I like them quite a lot. Even the one with Theo. Even though I don't see what the point of his character is in the show, his story reminds me of a medieval take on kafkas penal colony where they put him through all this pointless protocol in the dilusion that somehow justice will be served if all the levers are pulled just at the right time.
I don't see it like this at all, and would be upset with any other approach. She hasn't turned self-righteous, she has always been self-righteous about her Targaryenness. It's sensible from her since every Targaryen is like this and she is indeed the last remaining dragon (as far as she knows). Furthermore, from the beginning, she has been used by others against her will and this experience has given her great convictions. She has chosen to be a great ruler and a great person. When she was Khaleesi, she cared for the downtrodden; when she became Mother of Dragons, she cared for the downtrodden; and now that she's Breaker of Chains, she is acting upon her convictions with to the greatest of her capacityQuote:
Originally Posted by EasyT
This isn't about her being power-hungry, but about her using power and gifts as a means to do what is right. She's the successful Ned. Ned thought he was being honorable, but really wasn't, and he died because of it and screwed everything up in the process; Dany is acting in a truly honorable fashion and is winning because of it.
On top of that, she isn't in any trouble and she knows it. She is the "rightful ruler", thus she must act like it. If she wants to free slaves, then by golly, she will. Her sensibilities are not selfish and aristocratic, but if she were to take the gold and the ships and move on, they would be. So far, she's the only character with power in the entire show that actually does what's right instead of just what suits them. Even Robb is acting extremely selfishly, he takes advantage of his power to appease his desire. On the contrary, Dany uses her power to put an end to suffering
I was never on Team Danaerys until this development. She's got dat dragonblood, a good heart, and a strong will. She's the hero to end all heroes
It also annoyed me she just went on to free the slaves, but I just figure she has some self-interest in it aswell. These slaves will be her followers.
Besides, moving on would be a terrible military decision. She needs a substantially bigger army to take on Westeros, and nobody is just going to give it to her. She's creating a Khalasaar of people who love her. There was really no other reasonable option than to turn to the nearest city after Astapor.
I suspect she will eventually unite the Dothraki as well, but may not. I hope so. I want her to create the greatest army the world has ever seen. After that, I'm not sure what I think should happen with her, but she needs to be when a Habsburg meets a Genghis meets a Roosevelt with the heart of a Mother Teresa
Grey Worm is my new favorite character. He's still not big enough of a role to put some thought into, but he pwned the hell out of his couple scenes. Since the Unsullied were introduced, I wanted to know much more about them. I'm honestly happy that at least one Unsullied has a name WRT the story, but I doubt they'll do much with them other than use them as props
Has a name WTF the story? What do you mean?
But yeah, he's bad ass. I like that they have a fairly skinny guy playing the role. Shows that for the unsullied, individual might isn't the end all be all-- like, they are pretty much the antithesis of the Dothraki.
WRT = with respect to. They all have names, but the only one we know is his. That's all I meant with WRT
Ah, ok. Right, yeah, I agree, it's good that they named at least one. But it was really slick how they did it, because they pretty much named them all when the translator explained that they all have names to remind them that they are scum, and then gave examples.
Just enough of a frame work for decent fan fiction to be written. Bobba Fett on the other hand was too mysterious, and therefore the fan fiction written about his past felt like it had nothing to do with the character, and just felt forced overall. And by Bobba Fett fan fiction, I mean Star Wars I-III.
Star Wars I-III don't exist. Just like Terminator 3, Godfather 3, and Alien 3
And the matrix 2+3
The Animatrix often gets forgotten, but it was really good.
Imagine how awkward it was to shoot that scene.
I wonder if they just CGI'd the breast. Would have made it far less awkward-- I mean, obviously the breast is not real, but a prosthetic one would have been almost as weird as him suckling on her real one.
100% fake tit. Not computer animated.
Not interested in them making a return. Except, perhaps, if Littlefinger is able to manipulate them; he can make lots of things fun. But the Eyrie sucks and I don't want to know more about it
Ha, I thought the scenes there were great, and it's a sweet local, but yeah, without Tyrion, or another big player for the setting to come alive around, it's not of much interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
As a book reader, I can confidently say that I've read the books.
My one complaint is that I wish it felt like there was still a war on. Rob's position is clearly constrained and Tywin has set up camp and everyone is angling to get the first good strike in, but it rather feels like wedding season trumps the great struggle for the realm.
Yes, that has been a significant problem. From the standpoint of plot, this season has failed miserably. It has yet to exit the exposition phase for Robb's, Bran's, and Theon's story lines, as well as others. The whole thing is backwards, and I expect the inciting event to happen at the end of the season, when it's supposed to happen at the beginning. Granted, this will probably set up s4 well.
This continual exposition has put the plot in the doldrums, and each episode is just repeating what we already know. For this reason, it doesn't even feel like a war anymore, and the conflicts all seem manufactured and easy to solve. Fortunately, however, the Dany, Arya, Jaime, and Snow story lines haven't succumbed to this.
Dammit, Sam, pick up the knife (looks more like a spearhead). Totally called it. Was kinda obvious when they found those blades on the Fist of the First Men though
The lamb sacrifice analogy could be foreshadowing that Meli turns on Stannis. I don't see it happening though, was probably just meant for the suspense with what she was going to do to Gendry
Dude sent to kill Dany looks like Jaqen
If Robb, Balon, and Teh Joff die, the Lord of Light has cheat codes. I had half a mind that was the direction they were going and Joff was going to try to rape Sansa in the bathroom and she or somebody like Loras would kill him. That probably would have been a good death, as it would have been unpredictable and thrown things into chaos. I've got him living a while though, he's just too good a king.
Hound is the best character. Jaqen could be if he was anywhere to be found. Grey Worm could be a contender if he gets more screen. That line was fucking awesome. I would really like to see him kill something
Should add that I'm pleased with Tyrion. It takes balls bigger than Bronn's to say that
Man I love Stannis. Actor is perfect. Nothing breaks his cold, calculating demeanor, and beneath that, there's a spark of intelligence and emotion
Melisandre is my milf pick for the show. Not sure why, there are hotter ones, but she is enticing. At certain angles, her face looks quite good
Gilly is hot too. Don't ask me why, but I have a thing for girls that look a little like mouth breathers
My guess as to the meaning of the leeches thrown in the fire is that each region of Gendry's body that each leech sucked blood from will be the region that each corresponding name will be stabbed or cut. So basically Robb gets stabbed in the chest, Balon gets stabbed in the gut, and Joffrey gets his dick sliced. Tyrion threatening Joffrey's cock may or may not be an allusion to this plan. The whole thing doesn't make too much sense though. The regions would mean that only Robb dies, which could happen since all he does is make shit decisions that are bound to get him killed, but Balon is nowhere to be found and I can't imagine much way that Joffrey will get his dick lobbed off. It's a long shot, but something explicit has to happen to each of those names and there is likely a reason why placement of the leeches matters (otherwise why even put it in the script that one is put on his dick?). In a way, this was like offering up names like Jaqen said the Red God could require. It'll be quite ridiculous if it has a big effect though, since it would mean that they could kill everybody just by throwing Baratheon blood in the fire
This is shaping up to be a gods vs gods story. Clearly the Old Gods have a place in their hearts for the walkers since that tree was next to the shack and the crows landed on it and the walker came. The Red God is foreign to Westeros, but it appears the Night and its Terrors is referring to the Coming Winter. I'm not sure what the role of the New Gods is though.
best episode of the season IMO, will check back later with my shitty 6th-grade-level interpretation.
You've gotten off easy this time wufbooky. Im watchin you >.<Quote:
Originally Posted by JKDS
My badQuote:
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In other news, I heard in the next episode Jorah and Barristan have an epic twenty minute staredown, Theon gets a horn shoved up his ass, and Arya adds another fourteen names to her kill list.
I seek beauty
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Did anyone else find Tyrion's behaviour in this episode a tad off? Yeah, it was his wedding day and all, but it seems that the way he handled it harkens back to the debauchery-loving Tyrion we've seen very little of in this series, perhaps since that first episode where he wakes up in the pig pen or whatever. Given how he's been acting throughout seasons 2-3 I really felt like his behaviour in this ep was out of character. Everything except not drunk-fucking Sansa was decidedly un-Tyrion-esque.
I felt it was all very Tyrion-esque
He has always been a drinker. He drinks during many scenes without debauchery and, besides, the man is supposed to get sloshed at his wedding. Even if Tyrion is a better person or improving, he's still also a partier. He's always been very emotional about his dad, often viscerally so. Drunk Tyrion would act just like he did in that conversation with Tywin. Tyrion also is prone to speak his mind and defend what he thinks is right. Drunk Tyrion would say what he did to Teh Joff. We've never known him to back down. When he's down, we've only known it to be when he's beat down. The bedding ceremony was unacceptable to him, and it's not like him to back off that conviction
It's ironic how much Tywin hates Tyrion because Tyrion is more like his father than his siblings are. They're both very stubborn and savvy. The difference is that they have different morals and Tyrion is a dwarf, which are also the reasons Tywin hates him
Agree with wuggy. It wasn't out of character at all.
The only problem I see with Tyrion is that he has no chemistry with Shae. Looking at their body language I'm not convinced they actually care about eachother. This was most notable in the part where Tyrion came in the room to tell Sansa about their upcoming marriage, with Shae present. The way he closed the door didn't look like he had terrible guilt about betraying his supposed love, more like he was being mischievous. Other than the Shae stuff he's totally (p)imp though, consistent and good.
God damn it people. I didn't mean to insinuate that Dinklage misplayed or misinterpreted the role of Tyrion. And it is fucking out of character. RAAAAAGE!
JK
Seriously though, I suppose what I meant is that we don't see this side of Tyrion all that much. To the point where he didn't seem like himself. Do you see the brooding, pensive Tyrion we witnessed in the days leading up to the battle of blackwater acting like a total dipshit on his wedding day? I mean this as an in-story critique, not a critique of the writing or the acting.
shae is a shit role by a shit actress with shit lines. bottom line
if shae is nothing other than his love interest, im going to be pissed. but on the other hand, ive grown so sick of her that if she is special in some other way (like she has magic powers), im still gonna be pissed because i dont want to see any more of her
Shae's easily my least favorite character. I want to say bad things about Talisa too but I'm still too mesmerized by her ass from ep 7.
I don't share your hatred for Shae, though I do admit her character is rather stale. Wuf, is there ever any middle ground with you? Just once I want to see you say 'such and such is a decent actor in an alright role' lol. Maybe you'd say that about Robb Stark?
That's a good observation. My personality has always been extremist like this.Quote:
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It's also that I simply don't even care about the middle-of-the-road stuff to comment on it. As a character goes, Cat, Jorah, and Bran are neither amazing nor shit, so I rarely even care to think about them. It's the super awesome ones (like Hound) or the super sucky ones (like Shae) that receive my attention
I've probably called about 50 different movies "the single greatest movie ever made". I just have really excited opinions
BTW, when it comes to hating Shae, I think it has to do with her role simply not being any good. You'd be hard pressed to find a reason why Tyrion actually likes her. Every scene with them for the last 1.5 seasons has been her disapproving of him in some way. It's repetitive and not that believable. This romance is probably terribly lost in translation from book to show
Snow and Ygritte have great chemistry. Jaime and Cersei even have good chemistry. Sam and Gilly actually have quite stellar chemistry. Robb and Talisa have acceptable chemistry
Tyrion and Shae? They have less chemistry than Hot Pie and a carrot
I don't agree on this one. There is great chemistry from Ygritte's side, but seeing more and more of Jon Snow, the actor always keep the same 'I'm lost, and feel conflicted' look on his face. Throughout it all. You'd expect him to open up more already through all of this.Quote:
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Agreed on the rest (hearing Cersei talk about Jaimie, wishing Joff had been more like him, she sold it). Only I don't like Talisa much, but that's mainly because she's costing Robb the war, damn that woman!Quote:
Jaime and Cersei even have good chemistry. Sam and Gilly actually have quite stellar chemistry. Robb and Talisa have acceptable chemistry
Naw you're right, Snow isn't that dynamic. He's not awful though. Ygritte is a much better personality. They're quite busy keeping Snow naive and stalwart in demeanor
I'd rather watch all the males in House Arryn run a pearl necklace train on Lysa's tits than see another scene with Shae
So would I, but then again I'd rather watch that than a lot of things.Quote:
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Hey since we're on the topic of shitty acting. That slave girl from Astapor you've got a hard-on for takes the cake as worst-on-show, imo. Don't agree with me? Watch this scene again and decide. I've never seen such poor and robotic delivery on a program of this quality.
http://youtu.be/rvBXx2MZA5Q?t=5m42s
I wouldn't blame the actress for that. That was a crummy scene all around, but it makes sense for Missandei, a slave, to speak to her new master like that. For her to talk to her without reverence or in a casual manner might be punishable by death.
Yeah, I agree, she probably had a more natural delivery in mind but was probably told to seem more 'afraid' or 'submissive' towards Dany. Still, I mean. The line "No family living." is just delivered so dispassionately. Imagine it being said in a lower tone, like saying it actually hurt her. She could have still sounded submissive. As it stands, it sounds very scripted, as though she'd been asked the same question a million times; maybe that's what they were going for, I don't know.
rofl.Quote:
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i thought this was def def one of the weaker eps by far
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Originally Posted by bikes
Beheaded douchebags
Naked Dany
Naked Melissandre
Drunk Tyrion
Shae being a bitch
Fat guy killing Old Man Winter
What's not to like?
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Originally Posted by Penneywize
Slaves are probably difficult to direct since nobody involved can empathize. A lot of them wouldn't have much feeling for their family because they never had one or they've been so thoroughly subjugated that they've lost senses of romanticism, individuality, or connectedness. Astapor appears to be a particularly brutal form of slavery, and its subjects would reflect that.
If you're not going to back up your arguments with reasons then you oughtta keep your condescending facepalms to yourself, twiggy.Quote:
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Naked chicks does not good television make sir.
Examples of why this episode was the bads.
Stannis the Mannis. Outta no where. "HEY BRO I KNOW I LOCKED YOU UP FOR TREASON IN THIS SHITTY CELL. BUT! IM SORRY FOR YOUR SON, ALSO YOU ARE SUDDENLY FREE FOR NO EXPLICABLE REASON"
I hate Shae. Hate. Damn whore tits.
Rains of Castamere meaning seemed extremely forced.
Dick leeching is not cool.
Sam biggest pussbag in Westeros suddenly man modes the white walker. And then runs away without his fire or dagger.
Redeeming qualities of this ep.
Arya.
Oleana.
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I will say this much. Perhaps after last week's episode, this one finally seems as though we are building towards some type of climax (semi-midseason climax? I mean, given that this season represents only half of the third book...). Dany's plot is moving on nicely and the siege could begin by next episode. We had some nice exposition time with the Hound and Arya. Tyrion was shown in an entirely different light than we're used to, but perhaps know he is capable of. Cersei acting like a total bitch to both Margaery and Loras makes us detest her even more (though I agree the rains of castamere story was... well, it lacked nuance, let's say). And I am liking the Sam / Gillie plot as well.
Hell just not having continuations of Bran's painfully boring storyline and Robb's shitty decision-making is reason enough to label this episode best of the season ;)
Edit: Oh yeah. And I fucking love Stannis. I bet something was lost in translation between the book and show given the suddenness of his decision to release the onion knight from his cell, but I am willing to forgive that. It didn't seem completely out of left field, anyway. As for the dialogue between those two, I mean, damn. Stannis is just enthralling. He's pained by the path he must take, but he's a man of pure resolve. I love it.
I agree, the Stannis/Davos thing worked fine for the show. Some of the backstory about Davos consenting to lose his fingers as payment for his pirating even though he saved Stannis and was being made a knight by him makes it all plausible to me. Stannis has less sentimentality than anybody who ever lived, and Davos is the most loyal person to ever live
This episode benefited from only using the plots that have been moving forward all season. The previous episode was as bad as it has been due to mostly using the plots that haven't
Not a fan of Daario so efficiently explaining why he pledges to nobody right before he pledges to Dany. Also not a fan of how he snuck in there. Barristan was busy carving cake apparently
Jorah better not get squeezed. The sausage is getting pretty tight up in Dany's tent, but Jorah has been the best friend she's ever had
They're all guys with a history and their own place in the story, I think it will be used for further intrigue now that she's getting ahead having an army and followers and effectively taking part in the game of thrones.
Jaime = Prince of Shrek
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No Game Of Thrones tonight? What is this Sorcery?!
there was a big dip in ratings in previous seasons due to memorial day, so they are skipping it this time
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Fuck that episode preview!! Why did I watch it! Now I know too much and have to hate myself for being one of them D-bags who knows too much and spoils shit for others
jk
Can't believe we have to wait ~6 more days for this shit.
I know I've said it before, but I'll say it again: I quite dislike the plot strategy of this season. It has revolved around the idea that a twist makes for a good climax. It doesn't, but the idea is why we don't know that Bolton's bastard is doing the torturing. It's a very strange thing though because the show has made it quite explicit while also trying to be cryptic about it. I don't know how many of the climaxes of this season will be in twists and reveals, but the Bolton one is def one of them. And if it's not and we're "left hanging", it's even worse writing
At the very least, I think this problem is created by breaking book 3 in half, but the bright side is that it is all setup for an action-packed s4