What % of keiths absence is role related? >0%?
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What % of keiths absence is role related? >0%?
Yeah I'm not giving that any thought at all, it's unproductive.
Fair enough.
lol honestly this is almost enough to make me flat-out believe BiD is a wolf with boog. this came right after rilla bolded boog, btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
I just carefully reread about 80% of this thread. Boog is wolfy as F. During the alleged crossclaim (which I believe is genuine), Boog seemed to be the one most aggressively (dare I say opportunistically?) taking the bait, even after gator revealed the truth. I've taken notes on specific posts by Boog that contain wolfy nuances, but I don't feel that's necessary to share at this point. The majority of us are members of the boog-is-wolfy choir, yeah? I'd divulge them on request though.
The wolves must be doing something somewhat fancy and counterintuitive -- this format demands it. However I keep trying to read the thread, especially the last few pages, with the assumption that boog and gabe are both wolves, and I find it difficult to believe. I don't see what they gain in barrelling each other down relentlessly. Right now, between Boog and Gabe, I think the best vote is Boog.
lynch boog
And that's game.
Aubrey, can I at least ask you to rescind your vote until Ong wakes up?
It's the middle of the night and luckily Rascal+Gabe are probably sleeping.
Please rescind and use up the time we have.
Omg I didn't mean nor want to do that :( I actually thought about that before doing it too but im retarded and forgot that 2 dead villagers means majority is lessened.
yes rescind boog
but i still think we should lynch him lol
Drew, the same applies for you. Without a rescind, we lose when Gabe+Rascal wake up. A middle of the night lynch is no good, especially when Ong is sleeping.
Thank you Aubrey.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubreymcfate
I'm going to sleep. I think we have >50 hours left to go though I'm sure the game will finish IRL today (EST). Let's discuss this then. Night.
Gabe where are you? Get out of your cheeba coma and come vote boog with me
6 for a majority.Quote:
Originally Posted by JKDS
Not voting - aubrey, gabe, SMF, rascal.
We're lucky that the wolves weren't able to finish it off when aubrey voted boog.
2 wolves sitting on BooG, they just need one villager mistake and it's over.
Notice how BID has consistently avoided voting for gabe in the clutch.
gabe/luco/BID/SMF all day along.
rescind
Where is your God now?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoopy
Also, if I'm a wolf with gabe, that means there are at least a cliple of villagers who are not voting for gabe 'in the clutch'. Has it occurred to you that maybe he doesn't appear wolfy to 100% of the village?
gabe went on a cheeba chew tangent when he bolded me then rescinded shortly thereafter. Other than that, I've agreed with just about everything he's said during these two gameday days.
But the reverse doesn't hold true, both gabe and I have been after bid/smf and I think we were the first people to call them out as wolvesQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoopy
Both bid and SMF are hard defending us now, but it isn't going to work as it's not a two way street. I think just straight attacking us would have been more +ev
How about you vote for them then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Luco
I'm sorry that I wasn't around yesterday. I worked late then went to my bowling league.
I haven't had a chance to catch up, but I'll do that this evening.
A villager vote on gabe would pretty much prove he's a wolf, btw. It'd be nice if SMF would pretend to care.
from my POV, BID is the clear vote here. wtf is this post...
look at his recent voting record. he can't be doing this as a villager. he's smarter than he lets on sometimesQuote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
he is a better vote than boog because of the possibility of rilla/rascal/bid/smf. i dont think RR/BH is possible anymore after rilla votes boog. however BID can be on a team with rilla and vote for him because theres no risk
i know ong thinks RR/DM is not possible because they could have hammered me early d2 for the win when boog and hoopy both voted for me. this is true.. if smf was active. if he's not, it ends up looking very bad for rascal to stay on me, so he rescinded (this is what ong pointed out on page 10)
rilla has sounded good on tone since his return but i agree with boog that he has made some lazy posts like this one
on post #8 in the thread, i said we should wait until the end of day 1 to out. i only started arguing for it to happen once the thread was stagnant. i am sure discussion was stalling out because i was in the thread often and we couldnt get people posting. also ong saying we should wait until day 2 made me feel like i really needed to argue the point of outing day 1Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
BID has been wolfy. it would be fishy to eliminate team RR. BID must be on the wolf team, whether with boog/hoopy or rilla/rascal. therefore we need to vote for BID
lynch BID
holla if you agree
holla
lynch gabe
Okay, I'm officially not keeping gabe in my village camp.
I'm now pleading with other villagers to help out here.
I'm 80%+ confident the wolves are gabe/luco/hoopy/boog
Just saying, if Hoopy and I were wolves with gabe, this is about the part where we start making up excuses to rescind.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
BID, keep an open mind for Rilla/Rascal being wolves with gabe. They'll come in soon and try to stray you away from lynching gabe, I'm sure. K thanks.
Just saying, your best play here would be to wait for villagers to jump on me before you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
Wait, you think there's a shot of ANYONE listening to gabe at this point?Quote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
Sigh. You'll be good at this game one day, Drew. One day.
I'm not voting for drew, dude is practically cleared and gabe's vote for him is not in a million years what gabe as a villager would do.
aubrey I think you need to reconsider gabe being a wolf with boog.
I'm not nearly as sure about boog as I am gabe. boog is wolfy, yes, and I think he's a wolf. Think. gabe is never a villager here. Never.
If Luco switches to BID, I will vote for gabe.
Dunno why we have to make this so complicated. Just vote Boog because he's a wolf.
This is wrong, this team has not yet found themselves in a position to win. boog already have drew and gabe voting for him, so they'd only have two wolves left to take it to 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
drew isn't practically cleared like I thought.
Still, gabe is a wolf. If this is gabe villager on final day, someone has done something terrible to his brain.
Why do you want luco to vote for drew?Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rilla
Gabe/Luco/Rilla/Rascal all day, er'day.
I've updtaed this and reposting it to emphasise the point that from gabe's villager pov, boog/hoopy are CONFIRMED WOLVESQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Yet gabe is STILL trying to get us to lynch drew.
Aubrey, this is not villager gabe. idk about boog, he can be a wolfy villager. But gabe is not a stupid villager who doesn't know how to poe.
It was a threat to keep Luco seated.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I've been the least wolfy villager besides Ong today. Rilla is 5x wolfier than I. Drew's lynch BooG, rescind, lynch gabe was wolfy as all hell (for the record, Drew is a wolf only 10% of the time here).. Stunning that tunnel vision got you still thinking I'm a wolf.
gabe can't vote for boog because if he does, the lack of wolf train to finish it proves boog to be a wolf.
Either that, or gabe is hoping we think that and lynch boog.
Either way, gabe is the lynch.
I don't care if rilla is a wolf or not.
If he is, he loses when we lynch gabe.
drew straight up outed himself with that vote, how has nobody else seen this?
it's boog/hoopy/bid/smf like I've been saying all along
You don't own me rilla.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
k, lynch gabeQuote:
Originally Posted by Luco
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
And yes, I am more confident that gabe is a wolf than drew. I just wish we went with Boog, on whom I'm supremely confident.
I'm officially confused. Drew/SMF? If so, Drew, I take back you being bad at this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
How confident?Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
I'm supremely confident about gabe, and very confident about boog.
Also, Ong, if you're a wolf, I'm going streaking.
I don't even think I can be a wolf. I'd have already won, or I'm hard bussing like a fucking idiot.
Yeah, you're a wolf like a teeny tiny bit over 0%. There's a teeny tiny chance I'm going streaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
It just made me paranoid for a minute that you were trying to set up the win for you and boog.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
But it would be rather blatant to ask for a vote to set it up when all you have to do is wait for more gabe votes.
The why don't you talk your partner into voting boog so we can see if he gets finished off?Quote:
Originally Posted by Luco
I told him to vote boog with me and he voted drew instead :(Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Yes, which is why gabe is a wolf, and, sadly, you too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luco
Remember that time Rilla trusted a wolf?
One more boog vote will confirm him as wolf if the wolves don't finish it. He is still on three isn't he?
Nah rilla has moved.
I think it's gabe 4 boog 2.
So gabe is currently there for the taking if he's a villager.
I can't speak for him ong, we're partners not masons. You need to ask him what he's thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Unless I'm wolfing with rilla.
But that won't make any sense from gabe's villager pov because gabe has hoopy/boog as confirmed wolves.
gabe is confirmed wolf once everyone has posted.
I already said it, drews vote is outing because I'm still fucking here. If he was V we'd be in post gameQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I'm pretty sure it's gabe 5 actually. Ong, BID, Me, Hoopy, Rilla.
gabe is L-1Quote:
Originally Posted by JKDS
We're pot committed.
I think we've won.
rescind
back off boog, get him back to three
I wonder if I'll ever be confirmed villager prior to the gabe flip. It literally makes NO sense logically that I'm not cleared yet.
Also, I'm unsure why it bothers me so much.
Rescind gabe?
I'm having problems that you and hoopy are still voting for him when he's so close to lynch. I mean he only needs to sit there at L-1 for until rascal shows up and that confirms his as wolf. Why would you two do that to him?
Maybe you can finally understand that I'm NOT a damn wolf.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
rilla what do you think about that?
Lynch gabe
I feel a CFD coming on. It's rilla/rascal with gabe, imo. Best of luck. I'm done.
I still can't accept gabe not voting for boog or hoopy with the understanding that from his villager pov they're lock wolves.
gabe doesn't miss this.
lynch gabe
rescind
fuck you paranoia
I'm doing something else for a bit. This is frying my brain.
It's funny, I don't think I was ever switching there. I just had a kneejerk reaction to being told what to doQuote:
Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
I will say this. Today, boog has looked a lot more like a villager than gabe has. Boog has been here, responding to votes as they happen, and his votes are consistent with either a villager, or a wolf who is putting himself in villager shoes. gabe has not been acting like a villager on the verge of being mislynched. His vote for drew does not correspond with what should be his villager pov, in that gabe should have boog/hoopy as confirmed wolves and should thus be voting for one of those two.
But I don't understand why gabe even voted for drew in the first place unless he's a wolf with boog.
I guess boog and hoopy could be parking on gabe because they know backing off looks bad, and there's always the chance I go into meltdown at L-1 with them still parked.
idk, the only thing I@m sure about is that gabe is a wolf. If he's not, I have no idea what he's doing today.
This is precisely the difficulty I'm having with reconciling a wolf team that includes both boog and gabe. Something just doesn't seem right. Did they have some bussing strategy that got out of hand and now they just need to go with it until they figure something out? Maybe they really aren't wolves together? Maybe Rilla is a wolf and orchestrated this whole thing? My paranoid android levels are going up.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
This I think is at least viable.Quote:
Did they have some bussing strategy that got out of hand and now they just need to go with it until they figure something out?
The only consistency I have is that gabe is a wolf. Do you really think gabe needs to be told from me who is a lock wolf from his villager pov?
Oh, and with aubrey here, we're now lock clear, unless someone wants to argue I am relentlessly trying to lose us the game.
Me and aubrey can nail gabe right now if we're wolves and he's not.
I had Aubrey/Ong as 100% villager after Aubrey's rescind late last night (IRL EST).
gabe is still there for the taking. There can only be two wolves max on him, meaning if he's a villager, the other two wolves are poised.
Let's make this simpler.
lynch gabe
Now it's not even a case of waiting for them to synch up. All we need is rascal and monkey to show up without fistpumping the wolf win and gabe is confirmed wolf.
And fuck paranoia. If gabe is a villager, wp wolves.
aubrey, if you're here you might as well end it. I mean we've either won or lost by doing nothing.
I'm here
are you sure? I'm okay with a gabe lynch, everything you've said makes sense, I'm just bothered by the fact that I can't think of plausible wolves on his team but whatever at this point
I'm certain that gabe is either a wolf or playing terribly. I don't think he's capable of playing terribly.
I'm still assuming it's boog/hoopy. But it could be drew/monkey.
I think my point is though that gabe is as good as dead, and all we're doing now is waiting for either a wolf to fistpump the lynch, or rascal and monkey to show up and slowly confirm gabe as wolf.
We're just prolonging the inevitable, unless there's going to be some rescinding.
I STILL DON'T GET HOW YOU THINK I STAY ON GABE HEREQuote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
If you and hoopy were to back off, it would essentially confirm you all as wolves. You're both committed to this wagon while hoping another springs up they can seize on. That has to be your tactic for today. Stick with it at all costs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690
Backing away is not going to save gabe, you're better off hoping it looks like they can't be wolves together.
That's viable.
That's what I think is happening.
I really wish me and aubrey were wolves slowrolling the shit out of you all.
One day I'm gonna do that.
So in your world, I'd rather lose the game than back off and admit to be wolfy in-game?Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
No, actually, I see what you're saying. If Gabe and I are wolves, the ONLY way we win is by staying on his wagon. Fine, I see what you're saying. That happens a low percentage of the time though. Anywho, keep calm and lynch gabe.
FINE jesus!!! so pushy!! ;P i was just being ocd and rereading pages. whatever, i will learn from whatever the outcome is.
lynch gabe
I know, I'd feel high as a kite if we were wolves this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Sweet.
Notice that gabe hasn't directly acknowledged any of the points I've made where I suggest he's not playing like he does as a villager. That's because he knows I'm right and has no credible argument. Better to just ignore me and respond to other points.
gabe villager would at least acknowledge the points I'm making make him look bad, and try to argue why he's not his usual sharp self.
I mean this is gabe who sniffed out the epic triple fakeclaim.
And he'd have us believe that he needs me to remind him that boog/hoopy are confirmed wolves from his pov.
IO had this typed out so I'm not letting it go to waste.