May 2015 Werewolf Gameplay Thread

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Originally Posted by baudib

Other than Hoopy,ong is like the nut low N1 lookup. He's getting vigged or wagoned on D2 so often.

no one actually thinks you play that bad as seer Wuf

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unlike you, ive played with ong for years. he almost never gets nommed, rarely gets lynched, and has been disinterested villager but never disinterested wolf.

he's a fantastic seer target because he has a way of not dying when other players would.

wuf remember that point you made about not being results oriented ? Every argument you make is based off of some results that support your current whim

It's useless for me to argue with your every point. You will argue more no matter what. And it won't help the village either way.

If wuf were in charge, what's the plan?

If one were in charge, what's the plan?

I think we should have Boog-Luco wagons?

Wuf: please stahpppp making words. You're sabotaging your team.

So hoopy claimed vig. Either real vig shoots him tonight or he's legit.

Ong claimed angel. If hoopy is vig he shoots ong and ong survives by either protection ting himself or hoopy. If hoopy is a wolf, hoopy dies from the real vig buy we are nine the wiser about ong. (but fake claiming vig is always bad as you get deaded so that's unlikely).

So on all probability those two players role questions are resolved. So can't really trust any if them yet but not am issue.

Wuf claims seer. If he's legit he's dead and that confirms ong is a wolf but that's no use to us anyway as his role is resolved anyway.

Baud seems super confident ong is legit and I don't really see why. I mean it's very possible but I'm not that confident.

What was the order of claims? Hoopy, wuf, then ong?

I am not super confident Ong is legit. I don't see any downside to Hoopy shooting him though. If there is, LMK.

i mean ideally the real angel would just CC here and we can lynch Ong but that prob won't happen.

We can probably lynch Wuf tomorrow no matter what.

Ongs plan isn't self resolving, it's a non starter. The angels focus today should be protecting the seer, not clearing themselves through fps.

His plan makes no sense, regardless of alignment

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Originally Posted by Luco

Ongs plan isn't self resolving, it's a non starter. The angels focus today should be protecting the seer, not clearing themselves through fps.

His plan makes no sense, regardless of alignment

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if Ong is the angel he knows WUf isn't the seer thus he has no need to protect him.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

No because I'm not the village. There are two people who know wuf's claim is bullshit. If the seer isn't ready to counter, then wuf should be left for tomorrow. Just because I know wuf is full of shit, that doesn't make him an optimal lynch from an observer's pov.

I don't expect anyone to believe my claim based on the way I've played, so why the hell would I expect to rally up votes for someone claiming to be seer with a guilty on me?

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This is a pretty good answer actually.

Still, if I was a villa staring down a fake peek I'd be flipping tables trying to get them lynched

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Originally Posted by baudib

if Ong is the angel he knows WUf isn't the seer thus he has no need to protect him.

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You're missing the point. Assuming Ong is legit then he's tossing a coin between protecting a 0% seer (ong) and a 0%seer (hoopy), giving the wolves a free swing at the seer.

lynch wufwugy

Hoopy shoot Ong.

Wolves are wolves, guys.

Ps rong before boog before Luco before before before before gabe.

lilrascal belongs somewhere on the spectrum. But where?

There are better tactics available.

But I want to go this route for two reasons.

1) Wuf and Ong are wolves.
2) Being angel-cleared was a bit much.

rescind I'm reckless but patient.

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Originally Posted by baudib

Rilla/Rascal/Hoopy/Gabe et al.

feel free to tell me I'm crazy here.

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You absolute raving lunatic!

So if I'm getting this correctly I shoot ong tonight and he blocks it to confirm that he's legit.

If he survives then seerwuggy is actually wolfwuggy because he's said ong is a wolf.

If he dies as a wolf then wuf is not confirmed either way.

If wuf is legit, ong is a wolf and the real angel has to protect wuf.

If wuf is a wolf, ong is legit, and wolves will prob take a shot at either rilla (known villager) or random chance at landing seer.

Or wuf is a wolf, ong is a wolf, ong gets shot but makes us lynch someone else today. Real angel should prob protect wuf really just in case.

I need a pen and paper to make a decision tree.

Hoopy has to be a villager. That's the only bit I'm sold on.

Yeah, I think we're like +4 misses right now, with 3 people who can roll clear, me and you pretty much cleared, a couple of solid village choices, and a rather moderate murky group of whom rong distinguishes himself as a top target.

We could lynch rong, let ong proc himself, you shoot ong, and let the wolves snack on wuggy and walk into tomorrow with still 2-3 cleared villagers and one fewer murk ath the risk of the seer.

But I want to lynch the two guys who have made and continue to make wolfy posts.

On first pass it makes sense to leave ong/wuf alone today as either 1 or both their identities will be confirmed tonight.

Yeah, both will if we do it right. But I wanna do it a bit wrong.

hoopy shoot ong. if someone else is vig, shoot hoopy

if ong is the angel, ong protect himself. if someone else is angel, protect wuf

wuf, lookup boog or rong. whichever we dont lynch.


how can we do better than that? i think boog is wolfier than rong but ill vote either

I'm not sure that I believe any of the claims at this point. All of them were a bit opportunistic.

Hoopy's may be the most believable, but I don't think outing himself at that point was the best play which makes me suspicious.

Wuf's claim just doesn't seem sincere because again it's a bad play and he wasn't voting his seer peek when he claimed. I think wolf seer would try to make a case on a wolf peek, rather than just out himself.

Ong's claim is possible, but it's still not a great play there to out himself. It would have been better to just say that he was a villager and wuf is a wolf for making an obvious (from his POV) incorrect peek. But, he can protect himself tonight, so it makes it possible.

I find myself agreeing with rilla here and we should lynch the wolfiest players. I think there's too much FPS going on here.

i have bad feeling ong is vanillager just trying to take a bullet to keep the angel alive. ong on a gong

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

Ong's claim is possible, but it's still not a great play there to out himself. It would have been better to just say that he was a villager and wuf is a wolf for making an obvious (from his POV) incorrect peek. But, he can protect himself tonight, so it makes it possible.

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my previous post #924 was predicated by this. you make a good point about what ong shouldve done. but he also called out wuf for maybe being angel and that was bad for his side regardless of what team he was on. so u never know with ong ;)

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Originally Posted by gabe

my previous post #924 was predicated by this. you make a good point about what ong shouldve done. but he also called out wuf for maybe being angel and that was bad for his side regardless of what team he was on. so u never know with ong ;)

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I can see that from Ong, which even could be a real claim that is meant to be suspicious to protect himself. Levels upon levels.

I'm pretty much on board with Rilla's idea and I think everyone else should be too.

I mean, it is of course pure AIDS, from a theoretical standpoint, to lynch someone who could be the seer.

On the other hand, best case scenario is Wuf is the seer who played it so poorly as to minimize his game equity by:

A. peeking someone who was almost always gonna be a major wagon on D2, if he survived the night (he asked to be vigged FFS)
B. Outing himself at a time when we were well on the way to lynching Ong anyway (barring lolclaims)
C. Outing himself when we were 70+ hours from deadline and he was in no imminent danger

It literally could not have been played worse.

For various other reasons, particularly his interactions since, it just makes it incredibly unlikely he's the seer. As Rascal points out, Wuf didn't even have a vote on his "wolf peek" until he saw that his vote on me was going nowhere. That should have been obvious, but Wuf has been INCREDIBLY out of flow and detached from the thread.

Another reason: Even given how dead the weekends are, Wuf's "claim" barely made a ripple in the thread. "Guys, I'm the seer and I have a wolf peek" generally creates some amount of buzz. It didn't.

For one thing, when wolves see one of their bros peeked by a seer, they generally hop on to lynch him as soon as they can in a scorched earth policy. Like I mentioned before, wolves don't mess around when a possible seer makes a correct wolf peek.

That didn't happen.

THAT SAID

it doesn't seem like we lose a whole lot by lynching outside the claims and letting this play out.

I'm still down to do whatever Rilla wants.

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Originally Posted by gabe

hoopy shoot ong. if someone else is vig, shoot hoopy

if ong is the angel, ong protect himself. if someone else is angel, protect wuf

wuf, lookup boog or rong. whichever we dont lynch.


how can we do better than that? i think boog is wolfier than rong but ill vote either

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This seems like something close to optimal given the situation.

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Originally Posted by baudib

This seems like something close to optimal given the situation.

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That is in no way optimal unless you believe that Wuf is the seer. It essentially uses all of the villa powers and in no way resolves Wuf's claim.

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

That is in no way optimal unless you believe that Wuf is the seer. It essentially uses all of the villa powers and in no way resolves Wuf's claim.

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I mean if Ong survives the vig then we can pretty much rule out Wuf is the seer.

I suppose there is some insane universe where Wolf Hoopy and Wolf Wuf conspired to make this happen and will thwart us, but I don't wanna think about that right now.

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Originally Posted by baudib

I mean if Ong survives the vig then we can pretty much rule out Wuf is the seer.

I suppose there is some insane universe where Wolf Hoopy and Wolf Wuf conspired to make this happen and will thwart us, but I don't wanna think about that right now.

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I don't see how Ong surviving resolves Wuf either way.

If Ong is the angel he saves himself here. If the angel believes doesn't believe Wuf's claim and saves Ong, then we still no nothing about the true role of Ong.

This also assumes that all the villa PRs have outed themselves and go with this exact situation.

I don't believe that on D2 that would happen here. If it was D3, then I could see all the villa PRs claiming because we'd be in a totally different situation. I just don't buy it.

If the angel is someone other than Ong he should probably just claim here and we can lynch Ong.

I gave Wuf multiple opportunities to retract his peek on Ong in case he was a vanilager FPSing and he declined.

If Ong is actually the angel we lynch Wuf D3 no questions asked (here's betting this will happen).

Like Wuf and Ong could be W-W but what we do know is at least one is lying and is going to flip W.

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Originally Posted by baudib

Like Wuf and Ong could be W-W but what we do know is at least one is lying and is going to flip W.

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This is where I'm at. At least one of them is a wolf and as I pointed out earlier, Wuf's claim is just not as believable.

Rascal, since I trust you and this is your forte, we will need to go over the implications of the N2 actions together. This will probably be the key to the whole game.

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Originally Posted by gabe

hoopy shoot ong. if someone else is vig, shoot hoopy

if ong is the angel, ong protect himself. if someone else is angel, protect wuf

wuf, lookup boog or rong. whichever we dont lynch.


how can we do better than that? i think boog is wolfier than rong but ill vote either

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Let me relook at this. As previously noted, both Wuf and Ong can't be correct. For this case, I'll assume Hoopy is the vig.

1) If Ong is the angel, then Wuf is a wolf and angel Ong protects himself. Then vig Hoopy gets NK'd by the wolves tonight and then Ong angel on N3 since he wouldn't be able to be angeled on consecutive nights. But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.

2) If Ong is a vanillager, then Wuf is a wolf and got the angel to waste a protection on wolf Wuf. Then vig Hoopy gets NK'd by the wolves tonight. But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.

3) If Wuf is seer, then Ong is not angel and the angel protects Wuf. Then vig Hoopy gets NK'd by the wolves tonight and then Wuf seer on N3 since he wouldn't be able to be angeled on consecutive nights. But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.

4) If Wuf is a wolf, and Ong is the Angel, it plays out like in (1). But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.

5) If Wuf is a wolf, and Ong is a vanillager, then it plays out like (2). But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.


If Wuf is the seer and played it out this way, then he's leading the village to lose all of the villa PRs. I can't see Wuf seer making this bad of a play (unless I'm missing something).

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Originally Posted by baudib

Rascal, since I trust you and this is your forte, we will need to go over the implications of the N2 actions together. This will probably be the key to the whole game.

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I just laid my thoughts out in a crosspost on using Gabe's plan and I don't see a plus side to it.

If Wuf is seer and played this way, then I think we lose here because of his play unless we can lynch the wolves the next 3 nights.

I think it more likely to be Wolf Wuf or vanilla Wuf making this play rather than seer Wuf.

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

That is in no way optimal unless you believe that Wuf is the seer. It essentially uses all of the villa powers and in no way resolves Wuf's claim.

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whats your suggestion?

you are definitely wrong that what i posted resolves wuf's claim in "no way." there are possibilities it does resolve wuf's claim in "no way", but thats not what you said

oops missed your post. let me check that out

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Originally Posted by gabe

hoopy shoot ong. if someone else is vig, shoot hoopy

if ong is the angel, ong protect himself. if someone else is angel, protect wuf

wuf, lookup boog or rong. whichever we dont lynch.


how can we do better than that? i think boog is wolfier than rong but ill vote either

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I definitely agree with the first part of Gabe's post regarding the vig.

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

Let me relook at this. As previously noted, both Wuf and Ong can't be correct. For this case, I'll assume Hoopy is the vig.

1) If Ong is the angel, then Wuf is a wolf and angel Ong protects himself. Then vig Hoopy gets NK'd by the wolves tonight and then Ong angel on N3 since he wouldn't be able to be angeled on consecutive nights. But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.

2) If Ong is a vanillager, then Wuf is a wolf and got the angel to waste a protection on wolf Wuf. Then vig Hoopy gets NK'd by the wolves tonight. But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.

3) If Wuf is seer, then Ong is not angel and the angel protects Wuf. Then vig Hoopy gets NK'd by the wolves tonight and then Wuf seer on N3 since he wouldn't be able to be angeled on consecutive nights. But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.

4) If Wuf is a wolf, and Ong is the Angel, it plays out like in (1). But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.

5) If Wuf is a wolf, and Ong is a vanillager, then it plays out like (2). But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.


If Wuf is the seer and played it out this way, then he's leading the village to lose all of the villa PRs. I can't see Wuf seer making this bad of a play (unless I'm missing something).

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my strategy assumes ong can only be a wolf or the angel. in all of the scenarios you list where he is the wolf or angel, ong is resolved. he either is saved, or he dies. or hoopy was lying about being the vig (which is fine for the village)

if ong protected himself, then wuf is a wolf (wuf is resolved!)

if ong is shot, wuf could be a wolf or the seer. we will ask for what he saw tomorrow

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Originally Posted by baudib

I suppose there is some insane universe where Wolf Hoopy and Wolf Wuf conspired to make this happen and will thwart us, but I don't wanna think about that right now.

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vig will shoot hoopy though so even in same universe we're fine

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

If Ong is the angel he saves himself here. If the angel believes doesn't believe Wuf's claim and saves Ong, then we still no nothing about the true role of Ong.

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there is no "believing." the angel should just save wuf to protect the seer in all the possible universes where wuf is the seer. you are right in some universes, wuf will not be resolved at dawn. however what he sees and who they kill will tell us much. also we can have other people out if the count is right (i havent analyzed this part yet)

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

I just laid my thoughts out in a crosspost on using Gabe's plan and I don't see a plus side to it.

If Wuf is seer and played this way, then I think we lose here because of his play unless we can lynch the wolves the next 3 nights.

I think it more likely to be Wolf Wuf or vanilla Wuf making this play rather than seer Wuf.

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lynching wolves 3 nights in a row wont be hard. if wuf actually is the seer, he will have another look up for us and we already have an advantage

if ong or wuf is a vanillager they should admit it so it doesnt ruin our plan

Rascal, Hoopy and Ong being NK the next 2 nights is not really that terrible. That means the seer lives to D4 with 2-3 lookups hopefully alive.

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Originally Posted by gabe

my strategy assumes ong can only be a wolf or the angel. in all of the scenarios you list where he is the wolf or angel, ong is resolved. he either is saved, or he dies. or hoopy was lying about being the vig (which is fine for the village)

if ong protected himself, then wuf is a wolf (wuf is resolved!)

if ong is shot, wuf could be a wolf or the seer. we will ask for what he saw tomorrow

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Originally Posted by gabe

if ong protected himself, then wuf is a wolf (wuf is resolved!)

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If Ong is the angel, then he protects himself tonight and is Nk'd N3. And Wuf is alive tomorrow and I'd expect him to come in claiming an FPS play as a vanillager. So, if Ong is the angel then Wuf is a wolf or a vanillager making a -EV play for the village.

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Originally Posted by gabe

if ong is shot, wuf could be a wolf or the seer. we will ask for what he saw tomorrow

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Ong is only shot if Hoopy is the vig and Ong is not the angel. In this case, Wuf is still unresolved and could be wolf or seer as you say and we're still here tomorrow, but with Hoopy being the outed vig.

If Ong saves himself and Hoopy is the vig, then both are fully outed and Wuf is still unresolved.

If Hoopy isn't the vig, then both Ong and Wuf are still alive tomorrow, still unresolved.

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What I keep coming back to is that I doubt that all of the villa PRs would claim like this on D2. And if that is the case, then we're still here tomorrow.

I just keep going in circles as to the best play here.

I agree with rilla, let's just lynch the wolfiest players and let the villa PR's do their thing. Laying this out for exactly how the villa PR's should play this just helps the wolves place there NK.

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Originally Posted by gabe

lynching wolves 3 nights in a row wont be hard. if wuf actually is the seer, he will have another look up for us and we already have an advantage

if ong or wuf is a vanillager they should admit it so it doesnt ruin our plan

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Originally Posted by baudib

Rascal, Hoopy and Ong being NK the next 2 nights is not really that terrible. That means the seer lives to D4 with 2-3 lookups hopefully alive.

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The only way we last 3 nights is if the vig and/or angel get things right.

I'm talking myself in circles right now.

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

The only way we last 3 nights is if the vig and/or angel get things right.

I'm talking myself in circles right now.

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And we don't have any mislynches.

"If Ong saves himself and Hoopy is the vig, then both are fully outed and Wuf is still unresolved."
if this happens, wuf is a wolf. anything else should be impossible...

rascal, I'm going to toss a coin to decide if I protect myself or hoopy tonight. Either way I'm safe, and it ensures the wolves don't know who I protected, and thus can't know if I'm a clear kill tomorrow or not.

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Originally Posted by gabe

"If Ong saves himself and Hoopy is the vig, then both are fully outed and Wuf is still unresolved."
if this happens, wuf is a wolf. anything else should be impossible...

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I'm what-if'ing myself in circles. I need to step back and reread later.

There are approximately 24 hours remaining in Day #2

Lynch Vote Count (as of Post #950)

OngBonga - 2
wufwugy - 2

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a500lbgorilla - (OngBonga),, (wufwugy)
baudib - (BooG690),, (wufwugy)
BooG690 - OngBonga
gabe -
Hoopy -
lilrascal - wufwugy
Luco
OngBonga - (BooG690),, wufwugy
rong -
wufwugy - (baudib),, OngBonga

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

Let me relook at this. As previously noted, both Wuf and Ong can't be correct. For this case, I'll assume Hoopy is the vig.

1) If Ong is the angel, then Wuf is a wolf and angel Ong protects himself. Then vig Hoopy gets NK'd by the wolves tonight and then Ong angel on N3 since he wouldn't be able to be angeled on consecutive nights. But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.

2) If Ong is a vanillager, then Wuf is a wolf and got the angel to waste a protection on wolf Wuf. Then vig Hoopy gets NK'd by the wolves tonight. But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.

3) If Wuf is seer, then Ong is not angel and the angel protects Wuf. Then vig Hoopy gets NK'd by the wolves tonight and then Wuf seer on N3 since he wouldn't be able to be angeled on consecutive nights. But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.

4) If Wuf is a wolf, and Ong is the Angel, it plays out like in (1). But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.

5) If Wuf is a wolf, and Ong is a vanillager, then it plays out like (2). But both Wuf and Ong are still alive tomorrow unresolved.


If Wuf is the seer and played it out this way, then he's leading the village to lose all of the villa PRs. I can't see Wuf seer making this bad of a play (unless I'm missing something).

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rascal I'm struggling with this. vig always goes before wolves, how can ong survive the night if he isn't the angel?

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Originally Posted by gabe

my strategy assumes ong can only be a wolf or the angel. in all of the scenarios you list where he is the wolf or angel, ong is resolved. he either is saved, or he dies. or hoopy was lying about being the vig (which is fine for the village)

if ong protected himself, then wuf is a wolf (wuf is resolved!)

if ong is shot, wuf could be a wolf or the seer. we will ask for what he saw tomorrow

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Yeah this. Ong either saves himself or dies.

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Originally Posted by Luco

rascal I'm struggling with this. vig always goes before wolves, how can ong survive the night if he isn't the angel?

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I'm struggling with it as well. There's so many ways it could play out based on which claims are real and which aren't.

BTW, do people normally claim villa PR's here on FTR. They didn't in the first game I played here.

On POG, where I also, people don't claim unless there in trouble and that's the style that I'm used to.

Obviously, I don't know the meta here that well. But, I don't see an advantage to all this claiming. I think there must be at least 1 wolf in the claims or a vanillager providing cover. Also, I don't think we're as ahead as Gabe mentioned in one of his posts. Yes, the NK was blocked by the angel, but the vig took out a villa.

Gabe brings up some good points, but I don't think they're all valid depending on which claims are real. Claimfests this early in the game don't usually work to the villas advantage from my experience.

A quick survey shows Boog's on deck to react.

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Originally Posted by lilrascal

BTW, do people normally claim villa PR's here on FTR. They didn't in the first game I played here.

On POG, where I also, people don't claim unless there in trouble and that's the style that I'm used to.

Obviously, I don't know the meta here that well. But, I don't see an advantage to all this claiming. I think there must be at least 1 wolf in the claims or a vanillager providing cover. Also, I don't think we're as ahead as Gabe mentioned in one of his posts. Yes, the NK was blocked by the angel, but the vig took out a villa.

Gabe brings up some good points, but I don't think they're all valid depending on which claims are real. Claimfests this early in the game don't usually work to the villas advantage from my experience.

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It seems normal to me.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

It seems normal to me.

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I'll need to look at things a bit different based on that.

I also think we're ahead here. If dhuber had only said the angel blocked the kill, we'd still be ahead. With me being mod-cleared, we're waaaaay ahead.

From my eyes:

Hoopy isn't lying. So much clicks together with his claim.

Wuf is lying. Wuf might want to get lynched as the seer just to have it in the record books, just to churn the meta, but I don't think so.

Ong is lying. I can buy a lot from his story - that he'd proc me, that he'd try to trip up wuf with his crumb nonsense, that he'd be so unmotivated because he can just always drop the "I'm the angel"-card and watch all the village-suspicion wash away. But that doesn't change the fact that Ong's iron-nose still isn't sniffing around. And Ong certainly hasn't shared one sentence that couldn't be written by a wolf.

rilla you've been wolf with me before. Am I an unmotivated wolf?

Your weren't then. But it was exhausting for you.

I mean I'm not going to bang my head against the wall defending myself here, I'll be confirmed tomorrow.

But I'm far out of both my wolf and villager range here. I've never felt this unmotivated in a game of ww. I could give you plenty of reasons why, but you don't care and tomorrow it doesn't matter.

I do care, Ong. You've been skimming the thread. Just shoot from the hip. What do you see?

I see baudib trying to control things, I really don't like his dominant style and it would be an excellent way to play as wolf, but I'm reluctant to lock horns with him because doing so early on was part of the reason I'm demotivated.

gabe is another one who seems mostly town read and I'm nervous about that.

But I felt hoopy was a wolf and he's vig. I'm reluctant to put pressure on people in case they are seer.

I think tomorrow the seer is likely to claim. That tidies things up somewhat.

Thoughts on rong, Luco, Boog, lilrascal?

As for rong, I don't necessarily believe his vanilla claim, because he's telling wuf that he's vanilla just after wuf claims seer. If rong is seer, he's going to try to react like he believes wuf.

I believe boog is either wolf or vanilla, so I like to lynch him if we're not going to lynch the fake seer.

You're still as wolf as ever, ong.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

You're still as wolf as ever, ong.

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If you say so rilla. We'll continue this dicsussion tomorrow if they don't pick you off.

I'd enjoy that.

lol, talking about resolving wuf like he might actually flip seer here

his stunned silence is very reassuring

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

Apparently nobody took the Baud bait. Well at least we got Rascal bolding me.



All right gents!

Datwugy be datseery!

Ongie gonna wolfie!

For the slow, I looked up Ong and he's howling.

Whoever wants to be my n2 lookup, holler. I'm looking for a vanilla and I'll take the first person to say they want me to look them up. The vig should shoot somebody not rilla wuf or the person i will look up tonight.

rescind baud lynch ong

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What do you mean by baud bait?

If you got ong bang to rights, why aren't you pulling the thread and unravelling this?

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

rascal, I'm going to toss a coin to decide if I protect myself or hoopy tonight. Either way I'm safe, and it ensures the wolves don't know who I protected, and thus can't know if I'm a clear kill tomorrow or not.

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do you know OP says "If Vigilante is protected by Angel, his actions are blocked for that night"

ong you should definitely protect yourself tonight if you are the angel. you dont need to save hoopy. you need to save the seer the next night.

it is wolfy of you to suggest otherwise. anything else you do is leaving yourself outs to be unresolved which we dont like

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Originally Posted by gabe

hoopy shoot ong. if someone else is vig, shoot hoopy

if ong is the angel, ong protect himself. if someone else is angel, protect wuf

wuf, lookup boog or rong. whichever we dont lynch.


how can we do better than that? i think boog is wolfier than rong but ill vote either

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anyone else have a better plan than this? we should agree on it before night comes. if we coordinate then the game will be so easy

the only deviation that ive seen suggested is ong saying he wanted to randomize his protection in order to increase the vig's survival. i'm against that idea for now

gabe it doesn't matter if I protect hoopy or myself, the result is the same. I don't die. I'll toss a coin tyvm, I don't want the wolves knowing who I protected. I realise tomorrow I will likely be protecting the seer while they pick me off, but if they don't know who I protected tonight, then we're dancing tomorrow night. If they know I self protected tonight, then I'm easy pickings tomorrow.

gabe showing his hand here imo.

Wolves are wolves, gabe.

Wuf is AWOL when he should be playing an integral part of this game.

Ong made two posts where he vaguely read half the players like any wolf would knowing he can't possibly survive the night. The only thing keeping him standing is the crutch of "oh you just wait and see."

rilla, I can't be bothered to argue with you. We'll both be smiling at the end of the game, because we'll both be winners.

We were born winners, ong. We're white men.

I haven't been absent, I've just been amazed at you guys.

I have no interest in lynching anybody other than Ong. If we recall, I'm the seer. What more is there to discuss? We already settled that the vig shouldn't shoot. I'm looking up Rong. If I'm nommed we basically know that Rong is vanilla anyways since he was the first opt to be seered. But even then I won't be nommed because the angel is still alive. Then we enter d3 with a whopping 4-5 confirmed villagers, 2-3 unconfirmed villagers, and 2 wolves. This game plays itself.

Maybe this was a bad time to quit coffee. I feel a whole lot better in the mornings now and don't have crashes, but I notice it does make me a bit less talkative.

What amazed you most?

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What amazed you most?

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Most?

"hay guise lets lynch the outed seer"

The wolf who claims to be a seer, you mean?

Or, let me bait you another way, why peek ong?

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The wolf who claims to be a seer, you mean?

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this would never fly if it was somebody not named wuf

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this would never fly if it was somebody not named wuf

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This would not fly with somebody named wuf, unless they were a wolf.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Or, let me bait you another way, why peek ong?

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you bait me with a question i already answered?

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Or, let me bait you another way, why peek ong?

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Becuase I was bang in my villager range through d1, apparently.

I remember when I was pretending to be the seer who was town hunting instead of wolf hunting. You should remember that too rilla.

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you bait me with a question i already answered?

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Run through it again for the cheap seats.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Becuase I was bang in my villager range through d1, apparently.

I remember when I was pretending to be the seer who was town hunting instead of wolf hunting. You should remember that too rilla.

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Ong, if you were a villager here. You'd have a pet-idea. You have no pet-ideas. All you have are, "but how about I'm playing like this?"

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This would not fly with somebody named wuf, unless they were a wolf.

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really it doesn't matter to me. i have zero time on the weekdays for this game and i just wanted to sit back and have fun for the first time ever. but i got seer, so i spent way too much time rereading the thread than i should have. then i found a wolf and nobody wants to believe me so i kinda just don't care

just a couple weeks ago i was telling aubrey i may quit the game because im just not that interested in it anymore

lynch wufwugy

Hoopy, shoot ong.

Let's do this. If it fails, sorry, that's my bad. But the village can recover.

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Ong, if you were a villager here. You'd have a pet-idea. You have no pet-ideas. All you have are, "but how about I'm playing like this?"

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I am a villager.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

lynch wufwugy

Hoopy, shoot ong.

Let's do this. If it fails, sorry, that's my bad. But the village can recover.

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This is good.

PS this game shows me the importance of specials. Mainly that we had way too many. 0 info makes everything a brain bend. This many infos makes it seem like an algebra problem in the end.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Becuase I was bang in my villager range through d1, apparently.

I remember when I was pretending to be the seer who was town hunting instead of wolf hunting. You should remember that too rilla.

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yet again im shown i cant read you whatsoever. i remember when you hotshot keith i was adamant you were a villager

Does raise an interesting new point. Why aren't you shitting all over ong for claiming to be a villager over and over again?

Just don't care to be right while someone else is wrong? That's just inhuman... as far as humans on the internet are concerned.