Reraising knowing you cant call if they push.

Small pot I flop top pair K kicker, I am almost positive I have Cweb beat, I chose to reraise knowing that if he RR me I would have to fold. Should I have just called the intitial raise hoping to improve on the turn? or was this the right move



Txtwo is at seat 0 with $15.45.
toml_8 is at seat 1 with $25.85.
beakadah is at seat 2 with $27.95.
CWebb11 is at seat 3 with $50.65.
theraiser13 is at seat 4 with $8.80.
roachpole is at seat 6 with $22.10.
csparerow is at seat 7 with $15.25.
The button is at seat 1.

beakadah posts the small blind of $.10.
CWebb11 posts the big blind of $.25.

Txtwo: -- --
toml_8: Tc Ks
beakadah: -- --
CWebb11: -- --
theraiser13: -- --
roachpole: -- --
csparerow: -- --

Pre-flop:

theraiser13 folds. roachpole folds. csparerow
folds. Txtwo folds. toml_8 calls. beakadah raises
to $.50. CWebb11 calls. toml_8 calls.

Flop (board: 4s 5h Td):

beakadah bets $1.50. CWebb11 calls. toml_8 raises
to $5. beakadah goes all-in for $27.45. CWebb11
folds. toml_8 folds. beakadah is returned $22.45
(uncalled).

fold preflop, save 5.50

True

I limped with the K-10 with only the blinds to go, should i really fold to a min raise? This guy had min raised before and he was a pretty weak player.

I woudn't even limp most of the time. It is one of those second best hands at the table. You'll always almost win, but you don't get a thing for 2nd place

I half agree with the limp. There's no reason not to think you have a shot at the best hand with only the blinds left.

No reason to fold to a minraise once you had limped, especially with that read (which also makes limping more correct, since you know that about one of the blinds).

One possible alternative would be to raise preflop. Gets you a better pot if you hit, and should provide a bit of info about your opp's hands.

Regarding the post flop: I like the reraise. Calling provides no information, and you're going to be faced with the same decision when a bigger bet comes on the turn.

Nothing seems wrong with how you played the hand. I would consider raising preflop partly based on the value of K-10 high against two blind hands, and also to set up a bluff on the flop if you don't successfully take the blinds (you also may flop the best hand, of course).

If you're going to play K 10, you should raise to limit the field. IF you're going to play K 10 off.

That being said, I can see calling a minimum raise once you've limped and there's no one in front of you calling.

Yes, I agree with the flop raise. If you try to reraise later, it's only going to cost you more.

Once he's all in, yes, lay it down, for god's sake lay it down! :P

didn't notice you limp/called, thought you just called a minraise, so i like that better, but i still say raise or fold, no limp.

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Originally Posted by Staple Gun

Small pot I flop top pair K kicker, I am almost positive I have Cweb beat, I chose to reraise knowing that if he RR me I would have to fold. Should I have just called the intitial raise hoping to improve on the turn? or was this the right move



Txtwo is at seat 0 with $15.45.
toml_8 is at seat 1 with $25.85.
beakadah is at seat 2 with $27.95.
CWebb11 is at seat 3 with $50.65.
theraiser13 is at seat 4 with $8.80.
roachpole is at seat 6 with $22.10.
csparerow is at seat 7 with $15.25.
The button is at seat 1.

beakadah posts the small blind of $.10.
CWebb11 posts the big blind of $.25.

Txtwo: -- --
toml_8: Tc Ks
beakadah: -- --
CWebb11: -- --
theraiser13: -- --
roachpole: -- --
csparerow: -- --

Pre-flop:

theraiser13 folds. roachpole folds. csparerow
folds. Txtwo folds. toml_8 calls. beakadah raises
to $.50. CWebb11 calls. toml_8 calls.

Flop (board: 4s 5h Td):

beakadah bets $1.50. CWebb11 calls. toml_8 raises
to $5. beakadah goes all-in for $27.45. CWebb11
folds. toml_8 folds. beakadah is returned $22.45
(uncalled).

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As you were on the button, I would have raised pre-flop, hoping to pick up the blinds. KTo is not a great hand and you probably don't want a caller. If a K or T flops (as in this case) you could be up against a pair with a higher kicker and so calling/limping can only get you into trouble.

I like your rasie pre-flop, to find out where you are in the hand. A call would not have told you that, as pointed out in a previous post, and if you do call and beakadah bets on the turn, what do you do?

In such a situation, assuming that you raised pre-flop, I would follow this up with a bet on the flop regardless of which cards flopped, especially if it is checked to you. Raising pre-flop represents a hand and you should continue with this to see what your opponent does. If he is a calling station, you might want to review this, though.

And of course, your fold was absolutely correct!!!

the guy probably has an overpair and hopes you will call with TPTK. good laydown. i play it the same (except i fold or raise KTo preflop).

Thanks for all the input, ChezJ was right he had rockets, and a preflop raise would have brought a bigger reraise which I would fold to and save some money.

Would you play KJ the same as K10 if it had it a J?
I think I overvalue KJ alot and it seems like its not alot better than K10.

Rolon

KJ is just as bad as KT. At lower stakes, I think limping them is fine, but don't get attached to a pair. Try hit a flush if they're suited or a straight. Or two pair.

you didnt hit the flop hard enough to raise a preflop raiser.

say 2 T's pop or OESD, then continue, otherwise, check and fold.

preflop recomendations .. ok to play in late position, but fold if its been raised before you.

i normally muck KT reguardless, its such an easily dominated hand. suited limping in from the button is ok .. you dont want to play this hand for pair strength, you are too easily dominated, your looking for a straight or flush with this hand.

Fold or raise preflop.

-'rilla

I hate K J. It's a miracle hand

I woulda folded or raised PF. The re-raise on the flop is fine and definitely gives you more information than just calling. And the fold after the AI was mandatory, fold mang fold! If the original raiser woulda called your raise what would you have done then? Can you have him to weaker TP or TPTK? This is why I dont like to play KTo, especially at these low limits.

Someone suggested stealing blinds with KTo from LP. I dont see the point stealing the blinds in ring, especially in nl25..