Punishing the fish!

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PokerStars Game #1660751247: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 17:19:19
(ET)
Table 'Metsahovi' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: moongirl78 ($137.30 in chips)
Seat 4: allLiving ($450.60 in chips)
Seat 6: littlejapes ($108.25 in chips)
Seat 7: tykoshi ($18.50 in chips)
littlejapes: posts small blind $1
tykoshi: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allLiving [As Tc Td 8d]
moongirl78: raises $2 to $4
allLiving: calls $4
littlejapes: calls $3
tykoshi: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [4d 8c 3h]
littlejapes: checks
tykoshi: bets $14.50 and is all-in
moongirl78: calls $14.50
allLiving: calls $14.50
littlejapes: folds
*** TURN *** [4d 8c 3h] [Ad]
moongirl78: checks
allLiving: checks
*** RIVER *** [4d 8c 3h Ad] [3d]
moongirl78: bets $12
allLiving: calls $12
*** SHOW DOWN ***
moongirl78: shows [7s 7c 5d 9d] (a flush, Ace high)
allLiving: shows [As Tc Td 8d] (a flush, Ace high - Ten higher)
allLiving collected $24 from side pot
tykoshi: shows [7h 4h Qd 8h] (two pair, Eights and Fours)
allLiving collected $57.50 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $83.50 Main pot $57.50. Side pot $24. | Rake $2
Board [4d 8c 3h Ad 3d]
Seat 3: moongirl78 showed [7s 7c 5d 9d] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 4: allLiving (button) showed [As Tc Td 8d] and won ($81.50) with a flush,
Ace high
Seat 6: littlejapes (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: tykoshi (big blind) showed [7h 4h Qd 8h] and lost with two pair, Eights
and Fours

I played this hand a little loosely, but i was pretty sure I was ahead of both the players on the flop, and had some backdoor outs.

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PokerStars Game #1660735775: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 17:16:33
(ET)
Table 'Metsahovi' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: moongirl78 ($98 in chips)
Seat 4: allLiving ($297.95 in chips)
Seat 5: ASSOSRIGAS ($138.95 in chips)
Seat 6: littlejapes ($146.25 in chips)
Seat 7: tykoshi ($38.50 in chips)
ASSOSRIGAS: posts small blind $1
littlejapes: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allLiving [9s Kc 4d 9c]
tykoshi: calls $2
moongirl78: folds
allLiving: calls $2
ASSOSRIGAS: calls $1
littlejapes: raises $2 to $4
tykoshi: calls $2
allLiving: calls $2
ASSOSRIGAS: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [6c 9h 2s]
ASSOSRIGAS: checks
littlejapes: bets $4
tykoshi: calls $4
allLiving: raises $27.20 to $31.20
ASSOSRIGAS: calls $31.20
littlejapes: folds
tykoshi: folds
*** TURN *** [6c 9h 2s] [5c]
ASSOSRIGAS: bets $60
allLiving: raises $202.75 to $262.75 and is all-in
ASSOSRIGAS: calls $43.75 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [6c 9h 2s 5c] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ASSOSRIGAS: shows [3h 2d Td 2h] (three of a kind, Deuces)
allLiving: shows [9s Kc 4d 9c] (a flush, King high)
allLiving collected $291.90 from pot

This is as simple as it gets. Most of the time, my opponent isn't calling this huge re-raise with a gutshot, so my re-raise on the turn was a safe bet! Too bad this guy overvalues his bottom set, it was obvious that he was beat, and he couldn't draw to a higher hand, but I could.

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PokerStars Game #1660695807: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 17:09:20
(ET)
Table 'Metsahovi' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: moongirl78 ($180.20 in chips)
Seat 4: allLiving ($173.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Fossy1971 ($48 in chips)
Seat 6: littlejapes ($81.15 in chips)
allLiving: posts small blind $1
Fossy1971: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allLiving [5c Ah 8h Ad]
littlejapes: raises $2 to $4
moongirl78: folds
allLiving: calls $3
Fossy1971: raises $2 to $6
littlejapes: calls $2
allLiving: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [9h Th 3h]
allLiving: checks
Fossy1971: bets $2
littlejapes: raises $2 to $4
allLiving: raises $11 to $15
Fossy1971: calls $13
littlejapes: calls $11
*** TURN *** [9h Th 3h] [6d]
allLiving: bets $61
Fossy1971: calls $27 and is all-in
littlejapes: calls $60.15 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [9h Th 3h 6d] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
allLiving: shows [5c Ah 8h Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
littlejapes: mucks hand
allLiving collected $66.30 from side pot
Fossy1971: mucks hand
allLiving collected $142 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $210.30 Main pot $142. Side pot $66.30. | Rake $2
Board [9h Th 3h 6d 2h]
Seat 3: moongirl78 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: allLiving (small blind) showed [5c Ah 8h Ad] and won ($208.30) with a
flush, Ace high
Seat 5: Fossy1971 (big blind) mucked [Qs Qh 9s 4h]
Seat 6: littlejapes mucked [Ks 5h Kh 2s]

There is no reason for me to re-raise with AAxx in my hand since that will give away my hand strength, and AA is easily beaten in omaha. The flop and turn play was an obvious play. Good thing both my opponents overvalued their shitty flushes and I had the best of it the whole way!"

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PokerStars Game #1661176809: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/05/08 -
18:33:58 (ET)
Table 'Archid III' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: giggie ($40 in chips)
Seat 3: zabaks ($33.30 in chips)
Seat 4: mausibaer2 ($34.20 in chips)
Seat 5: un1que ($20 in chips)
Seat 6: allLiving ($133.50 in chips)
Seat 7: dyah ($59.95 in chips)
Seat 9: benjamin_O ($19 in chips)
dyah: posts small blind $0.50
benjamin_O: posts big blind $1
giggie: posts big blind $1
un1que: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allLiving [Ts 5s 5d Td]
aralston9 joins the table at seat #1
Barmo has returned
giggie: raises $2 to $3
zabaks: folds
mausibaer2: calls $3
un1que: calls $2
allLiving: calls $3
dyah: folds
benjamin_O: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [5h 5c 9c]
benjamin_O: checks
giggie: bets $4
mausibaer2: folds
un1que: calls $4
allLiving: calls $4
benjamin_O: calls $4
*** TURN *** [5h 5c 9c] [3h]
benjamin_O: checks
giggie: bets $12
un1que: calls $12
allLiving: calls $12
benjamin_O: folds
*** RIVER *** [5h 5c 9c 3h] [2d]
giggie: checks
un1que: bets $1 and is all-in
allLiving: raises $24 to $25
giggie: calls $21 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
allLiving: shows [Ts 5s 5d Td] (four of a kind, Fives)
giggie: mucks hand
allLiving collected $40 from side pot
un1que: mucks hand
giggie leaves the table
benjamin_O said, "nh"
allLiving collected $67.50 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $110.50 Main pot $67.50. Side pot $40. | Rake $3
Board [5h 5c 9c 3h 2d]
Seat 2: giggie mucked [4d Kd Ks 2h]
Seat 3: zabaks folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: mausibaer2 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: un1que mucked [Tc 9d 4c 9h]
Seat 6: allLiving (button) showed [Ts 5s 5d Td] and won ($107.50) with four of a
kind, Fives
Seat 7: dyah (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: benjamin_O (big blind) folded on the Turn

DUH!!

Here is how you SHOULDN'T PLAY. I got lucky.
Transcript for your last 5 games requested by allLiving ([email protected])
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PokerStars Game #1661744981: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 20:09:16
(ET)
Table 'Gezelle' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Yello man ($64.45 in chips)
Seat 2: PACO P ($58.60 in chips)
Seat 3: DAVID971 ($455.95 in chips)
Seat 4: allLiving ($183.50 in chips)
Seat 6: ONLY_NUTS ($28 in chips)
Seat 8: tylergf ($327.25 in chips)
Seat 9: roadruner01 ($105.50 in chips)
tylergf: posts small blind $1
roadruner01: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allLiving [Js Ts 4s Kd]
didiwo joins the table at seat #5
Yello man: calls $2
didiwo leaves the table
PACO P: calls $2
DAVID971: calls $2
allLiving: calls $2
didiwo joins the table at seat #5
ONLY_NUTS: folds
tylergf: folds
roadruner01: checks
*** FLOP *** [8s 2s Qd]
roadruner01: checks
Yello man: checks
PACO P: checks
DAVID971: checks
allLiving: checks
*** TURN *** [8s 2s Qd] [Td]
roadruner01: checks
Yello man: bets $10
PACO P: raises $10 to $20
DAVID971: folds
allLiving: calls $20
roadruner01: folds
Yello man: raises $42.45 to $62.45 and is all-in
PACO P: calls $36.60 and is all-in
allLiving: calls $42.45
*** RIVER *** [8s 2s Qd Td] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Yello man: shows [Qc 7c Jd 9h] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
allLiving: shows [Js Ts 4s Kd] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
allLiving collected $11.70 from side pot
PACO P: mucks hand
allLiving collected $177.80 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $192.50 Main pot $177.80. Side pot $11.70. | Rake $3
Board [8s 2s Qd Td Ah]
Seat 1: Yello man showed [Qc 7c Jd 9h] and lost with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 2: PACO P mucked [9d 7h Jh 6s]
Seat 3: DAVID971 folded on the Turn
Seat 4: allLiving showed [Js Ts 4s Kd] and won ($189.50) with a straight, Ten to
Ace
Seat 6: ONLY_NUTS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tylergf (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: roadruner01 (big blind) folded on the Turn

Nice turnout however.

First of all why are you playing so many bad hands? This hand sucks preflop.

Given that on the river you have 14 outs. If you are only holding 2 spades and the nut flush instead of the the K flush I make this play. 42$ to win $190. If you just win 25% of the time you have to make this call.

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Originally Posted by allLiving

Here is how you SHOULDN'T PLAY. I got lucky.
Transcript for your last 5 games requested by allLiving ([email protected])
*********** # 1 **************
PokerStars Game #1661744981: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 20:09:16
(ET)
Table 'Gezelle' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Yello man ($64.45 in chips)
Seat 2: PACO P ($58.60 in chips)
Seat 3: DAVID971 ($455.95 in chips)
Seat 4: allLiving ($183.50 in chips)
Seat 6: ONLY_NUTS ($28 in chips)
Seat 8: tylergf ($327.25 in chips)
Seat 9: roadruner01 ($105.50 in chips)
tylergf: posts small blind $1
roadruner01: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allLiving [Js Ts 4s Kd]
didiwo joins the table at seat #5
Yello man: calls $2
didiwo leaves the table
PACO P: calls $2
DAVID971: calls $2
allLiving: calls $2
didiwo joins the table at seat #5
ONLY_NUTS: folds
tylergf: folds
roadruner01: checks
*** FLOP *** [8s 2s Qd]
roadruner01: checks
Yello man: checks
PACO P: checks
DAVID971: checks
allLiving: checks
*** TURN *** [8s 2s Qd] [Td]
roadruner01: checks
Yello man: bets $10
PACO P: raises $10 to $20
DAVID971: folds
allLiving: calls $20
roadruner01: folds
Yello man: raises $42.45 to $62.45 and is all-in
PACO P: calls $36.60 and is all-in
allLiving: calls $42.45
*** RIVER *** [8s 2s Qd Td] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Yello man: shows [Qc 7c Jd 9h] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
allLiving: shows [Js Ts 4s Kd] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
allLiving collected $11.70 from side pot
PACO P: mucks hand
allLiving collected $177.80 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $192.50 Main pot $177.80. Side pot $11.70. | Rake $3
Board [8s 2s Qd Td Ah]
Seat 1: Yello man showed [Qc 7c Jd 9h] and lost with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 2: PACO P mucked [9d 7h Jh 6s]
Seat 3: DAVID971 folded on the Turn
Seat 4: allLiving showed [Js Ts 4s Kd] and won ($189.50) with a straight, Ten to
Ace
Seat 6: ONLY_NUTS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tylergf (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: roadruner01 (big blind) folded on the Turn

Nice turnout however.

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Be happy you are playing against fish, no good player makes this move. There's a straight to be had, he could have quad 2's. And don't say he wouldn't play those cards because look at the trash you are playing.

Fold that crap before it gets you caught.

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Originally Posted by allLiving

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PokerStars Game #1660735775: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 17:16:33
(ET)
Table 'Metsahovi' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: moongirl78 ($98 in chips)
Seat 4: allLiving ($297.95 in chips)
Seat 5: ASSOSRIGAS ($138.95 in chips)
Seat 6: littlejapes ($146.25 in chips)
Seat 7: tykoshi ($38.50 in chips)
ASSOSRIGAS: posts small blind $1
littlejapes: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allLiving [9s Kc 4d 9c]
tykoshi: calls $2
moongirl78: folds
allLiving: calls $2
ASSOSRIGAS: calls $1
littlejapes: raises $2 to $4
tykoshi: calls $2
allLiving: calls $2
ASSOSRIGAS: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [6c 9h 2s]
ASSOSRIGAS: checks
littlejapes: bets $4
tykoshi: calls $4
allLiving: raises $27.20 to $31.20
ASSOSRIGAS: calls $31.20
littlejapes: folds
tykoshi: folds
*** TURN *** [6c 9h 2s] [5c]
ASSOSRIGAS: bets $60
allLiving: raises $202.75 to $262.75 and is all-in
ASSOSRIGAS: calls $43.75 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [6c 9h 2s 5c] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ASSOSRIGAS: shows [3h 2d Td 2h] (three of a kind, Deuces)
allLiving: shows [9s Kc 4d 9c] (a flush, King high)
allLiving collected $291.90 from pot

This is as simple as it gets. Most of the time, my opponent isn't calling this huge re-raise with a gutshot, so my re-raise on the turn was a safe bet! Too bad this guy overvalues his bottom set, it was obvious that he was beat, and he couldn't draw to a higher hand, but I could.

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Don't under estimate all your opponents. On the turn when you moved AI there are 13 cards in the deck for you to win. 2 Aces, 3 Sevens and 9 flush cards. There is no way you are winning on the turn.

Question, how often do you play omaha on Stars? How many hands/week? How profitable are you?

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Originally Posted by allLiving

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PokerStars Game #1660695807: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/08 - 17:09:20
(ET)
Table 'Metsahovi' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: moongirl78 ($180.20 in chips)
Seat 4: allLiving ($173.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Fossy1971 ($48 in chips)
Seat 6: littlejapes ($81.15 in chips)
allLiving: posts small blind $1
Fossy1971: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allLiving [5c Ah 8h Ad]
littlejapes: raises $2 to $4
moongirl78: folds
allLiving: calls $3
Fossy1971: raises $2 to $6
littlejapes: calls $2
allLiving: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [9h Th 3h]
allLiving: checks
Fossy1971: bets $2
littlejapes: raises $2 to $4
allLiving: raises $11 to $15
Fossy1971: calls $13
littlejapes: calls $11
*** TURN *** [9h Th 3h] [6d]
allLiving: bets $61
Fossy1971: calls $27 and is all-in
littlejapes: calls $60.15 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [9h Th 3h 6d] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
allLiving: shows [5c Ah 8h Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
littlejapes: mucks hand
allLiving collected $66.30 from side pot
Fossy1971: mucks hand
allLiving collected $142 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $210.30 Main pot $142. Side pot $66.30. | Rake $2
Board [9h Th 3h 6d 2h]
Seat 3: moongirl78 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: allLiving (small blind) showed [5c Ah 8h Ad] and won ($208.30) with a
flush, Ace high
Seat 5: Fossy1971 (big blind) mucked [Qs Qh 9s 4h]
Seat 6: littlejapes mucked [Ks 5h Kh 2s]

There is no reason for me to re-raise with AAxx in my hand since that will give away my hand strength, and AA is easily beaten in omaha. The flop and turn play was an obvious play. Good thing both my opponents overvalued their shitty flushes and I had the best of it the whole way!"

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