Some things only seem to work for Rippy

***** Hand History for Game 1962625808 *****
$25 NL Hold'em - Wednesday, April 27, 18:58:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 37164 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: frankiemozz ( $9.8 )
Seat 2: indytini ( $6.1 )
Seat 3: BMan311 ( $3.87 )
Seat 4: Razz81 ( $24.4 )
Seat 5: Marianna55 ( $5.3 )
Seat 6: actiond20 ( $34.26 )
Seat 7: valkidd ( $26.63 )
Seat 10: nryan333 ( $98.6 )
Seat 8: stressball10 ( $29.95 )
Seat 9: opella ( $24.75 )
BMan311 posts small blind [$0.1].
Razz81 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to stressball10 [ 6d 4d ]
Marianna55 folds.
actiond20 calls [$0.25].
valkidd folds.
stressball10 calls [$0.25].
opella folds.
nryan333 folds.
frankiemozz raises [$2].
indytini calls [$2].
BMan311 folds.
Razz81 calls [$1.75].
actiond20 calls [$1.75].
stressball10 calls [$1.75].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 3h, 8h ]
Razz81 checks.
actiond20 checks.
stressball10 bets [$8].
frankiemozz folds.
indytini is all-In [$4.1]
Razz81 folds.
actiond20 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ac ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
stressball10 shows [ 6d, 4d ] a pair of fours.
indytini shows [ As, Qh ] a pair of aces.
stressball10 wins $3.9 from side pot #1 with a pair of fours.
indytini wins $17.4 from the main pot with a pair of aces.

There are too many people in that pot. You need to raise to isolate if you are going to do this and you also can't do this out of position.

Rippy's hands are set up when he establishes himself as the aggressor PREFLOP.

That field is huge and you should know your opponents tendencies to call big bets becuase it seems like a bluff.

-'rilla

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Rippy's hands are set up when he establishes himself as the aggressor PREFLOP.

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Really? Every time? He talks a lot about calling pre-flop raises with crap and calling down with low pairs when he puts his opponents on overcards... except for the large field, I think this was TEXTBOOK Ripptyde. (And for me, demonstrated why I don't like making these kinds of plays.)

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That field is huge and you should know your opponents tendencies to call big bets becuase it seems like a bluff.

-'rilla

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That's true, but then again - my read was right, and the one caller I did get hit a six-outer. I don't really feel bad about the outcome of this hand, just thought it was funny that it turned out like that.

plus u can't bluff a short stack...

especially if your table image is shitty, i've had shorstacks call me with low pair and take the pot down...

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Originally Posted by ender555

plus u can't bluff a short stack...

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I wasn't trying to bluff - vs. an unimproved AQ, that was a value bet.

Rippy calls all-ins with the intention of making large stack increases with good preflop odds. Rippy raises and reraises at all other times to maximize folding equity. My light just fucked up.

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I is confused

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Originally Posted by Ripptyde

this hand was botched horribly primarily because you didn't raise pre flop. If you decided you were going to play it....then ISOLATE...you had way too many people in this pot for middle pair to be effective

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I agree with you. The bet was spur of the moment - I initially called in looking to hit a better hand (two pair, straight, flush).

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and yes Ender is right on the money...you can't bluff a short stack

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I wasn't trying to bluff the short stack. Did you notice my hand was better than the short stack's? I got sucked out on. That's not a bluff. Not only was my hand better, I *knew* it was better when short stack called. I was *hoping* that the short stack would call and everyone else would fold. The outcome of this hand was exactly as expected, except they hit their 6 outer.

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In this case I would have either folded or reraised pre flop

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You're probably right about that, if I'm looking to play for a pair. Usually when I play small suited hands (connectors or gapped cards) I'm not trying to flop a low pair and win that way, I'm trying to get a monster and destack at least one other player. If I can come up with a straight, flush, or two pair - that's the kind of hand I'm talking about. This particular play of betting the middle pair was spur of the moment and I don't usually like to do it (because frankly, it's pretty dumb in a large field like that). But in this particular case I was right - no one else had anything, and my only caller was unpaired.

To sum up - I know my play here wasn't optimal by any means, I was just having some fun. It was a spontaneous attempt to pull a Rippy mid-hand. When I called pre-flop, I wasn't planning to go that route; the opportunity just presented itself and I thought it sounded like a good time. Didn't work out, but it doesn't especially bother me either.