the UTG limp

I tended to do this....

what do you think of this play??

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Stage #105484083: Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $15 [2005-04-07 00:56:38]
*** ANTE [dealer 9] ***
Seat 1 - DIRTMCGIRT40 $3900 in chips
Seat 2 - LARCENY9 $2905 in chips
Seat 3 - CSTERS $3075 in chips
Seat 4 - KJORDAN $2400 in chips
Seat 5 - TDAWGJR62 $625 in chips
Seat 6 - FATASSDING $1685 in chips
Seat 7 - BLINDDUFF $1395 in chips
Seat 8 - CHIPSTALKER $1395 in chips
Seat 9 - PAYDAY74 $980 in chips
DIRTMCGIRT40 - Post small blind $15
LARCENY9 - Post big blind $30
CSTERS - Pocket [Kd,Ks]
CSTERS - Calls $30
KJORDAN - Folds
TDAWGJR62 - Folds
FATASSDING - Calls $30
BLINDDUFF - Folds(Blind disconnect)
CHIPSTALKER - Folds(Blind disconnect)
PAYDAY74 - Folds
DIRTMCGIRT40 - Calls $15
LARCENY9 - Raises $0 to $60
CSTERS - Raises $30 to $630
FATASSDING - Folds
DIRTMCGIRT40 - Folds
LARCENY9 - Calls $570
*** FLOP [2c,10c,2s] ***
LARCENY9 - Bets $30
CSTERS - Raises $30 to $300
LARCENY9 - Calls $270
*** TURN [2c,10c,2s,6h] ***
LARCENY9 - Bets $30
CSTERS - All-In(Raise) $30 to $2145
LARCENY9 - All-In $1945
CSTERS - returned ($170) : not called
CSTERS - returned ($0) : not called
*** RIVER [2c,10c,2s,6h,As] ***
LARCENY9 - Calls
CSTERS - Calls
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($5870)
Board [2c,10c,2s,6h,As]
DIRTMCGIRT40 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
LARCENY9 - Total ($5870) All-In HI:($5870)Full house, sixes full of twos [6d,6s - P:6s,B:6h,P:6d,B:2s,B:2c]
CSTERS - HI:Two pair, kings and twos [Kd,Ks - P:Ks,P:Kd,B:2s,B:2c,B:As]
KJORDAN - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
TDAWGJR62 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
FATASSDING - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
BLINDDUFF - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
CHIPSTALKER - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
PAYDAY74 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS

I watched this hand happen. And the only thing I can really bring up is...

Limp from UTG with KK? Not my style. But I'll respect it as yours.

On the flop: Betting 300 into a 1,300 pot doesn't show as much strength as you wanted.

I don't think its necessary to get this tricky against bad players. However, it is not a bad play at a very agressive table.

getting the small raise is exactly what you wanted and you were talking about this play and it sounded like you had a good read on the player and knew he would call preflop. the flop bet is weak though, i'd make a pot sized bet, if you get action still great, if not, you pick up a good sized pot relative to the blinds. making a weak bet though would also allow him to call if he happened to be on a flush draw. every once in a while i'll make a small bet like that trying to lure the guy in by making yourself look weak. he just got lucky and hit the turn.

The play looks good to me. except, i would have raised all in on the flop.
Someone limped UTG last night, there had been a few limps from there previously. Me in second position went all in on the short stack with AKs. He flipped AA. I'm on an unbelievable run of bad luck like that.

There was a guy I saw on the list called 'Rada' from 'Mars', would that have been Radashack?

I love this play at an agressive table. I know this was during a SNG, but still....if you know there will be some heavy action behind you, why not limp and then drop the f'n hammer on them when it comes back around to you? You'll either take it down right there or the guy will call/push because he thinks you have nothing (and you're trying to steal his raise), or if he really thinks his hand is good (and it's not).

It has worked like gangbusters for me in ring lately, at least at agressive tables.

was an mtt acually george

You made that flop bet for value and ran the risk of getting outdrawn.

Also, some hands calling the raise, might think they're best on that flop.

-'rilla

my case is my read on him that he was loose and passive...


he thinks PP are like AA ...