The More I learn

It seems the more I learn about poker (NLHE) The worse I seem to be doing,
I don't know why this is but before I really knew there was a strategy to the game or pot odds or preflop raising or any of that, I was doing better then I am now. I don't know what exactly I have been doing wrong, maybe I'm playing too tight now but I can't seem to get back on a respectable winning level.. before I was at least breaking even most times and now I just lose... I pick up a few pots and BAM then its all gone. some times it was to bad beats,
(Quad K's cracked) and other times I just shouldnt have made the calls.

I have read several of the books (Advanced no limit, super system and SS2)
and I just seem to be wallowing and my play is not doing so well.. any helpful suggestions? I really enjoy poker and in live games I almost always do well but online I'm getting stomped.

maybe post some hand histories? We're happy to help, but we need to see some examples. Welcome to FTR

username "ArchSeraphim"

PokerStars Game #1168717847: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/04 - 14:54:32 (ET)
Table 'Hakone' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: Sniperteam3 ($2.94 in chips)
Seat 3: normanator2 ($2.10 in chips)
Seat 4: the_copy_guy ($1.18 in chips)
Seat 5: fmotes ($1.98 in chips)
Seat 6: van_lunteren ($1.98 in chips)
Seat 7: gatorgator ($1.98 in chips)
Seat 8: ArchSeraphim ($1.39 in chips)
Seat 9: Anatoliy ($1.86 in chips)
the_copy_guy: posts small blind $0.01
fmotes: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [Th Td]
van_lunteren: folds
gatorgator: calls $0.02
ArchSeraphim: calls $0.02
Anatoliy: calls $0.02
Sniperteam3: calls $0.02
normanator2: folds
the_copy_guy: calls $0.01
fmotes: checks
*** FLOP *** [5h 2h 5s]
the_copy_guy: checks
fmotes: checks
Merebass joins the table at seat #1
gatorgator: checks
ArchSeraphim: checks
Anatoliy: bets $0.10
Sniperteam3: calls $0.10
the_copy_guy: calls $0.10
fmotes: folds
gatorgator: folds
ArchSeraphim: raises $0.10 to $0.20
Anatoliy: calls $0.10
Sniperteam3: raises $0.20 to $0.40
the_copy_guy: folds
ArchSeraphim: calls $0.20
Anatoliy: calls $0.20
*** TURN *** [5h 2h 5s] [9c]
ArchSeraphim: checks
Anatoliy: checks
Sniperteam3: bets $0.30
ArchSeraphim: calls $0.30
Anatoliy: calls $0.30
*** RIVER *** [5h 2h 5s 9c] [5d]
ArchSeraphim: bets $0.20
Anatoliy: folds
Sniperteam3: raises $2.02 to $2.22 and is all-in
ArchSeraphim: calls $0.47 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Sniperteam3: shows [5c 2d] (four of a kind, Fives)
ArchSeraphim: shows [Th Td] (a full house, Fives full of Tens)
Sniperteam3 collected $3.51 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.66 | Rake $0.15
Board [5h 2h 5s 9c 5d]
Seat 2: Sniperteam3 showed [5c 2d] and won ($3.51) with four of a kind, Fives
Seat 3: normanator2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: the_copy_guy (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: fmotes (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: van_lunteren folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: gatorgator folded on the Flop
Seat 8: ArchSeraphim showed [Th Td] and lost with a full house, Fives full of Tens
Seat 9: Anatoliy folded on the River

*********** # 2 **************
PokerStars Game #1168712203: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/04 - 14:52:59 (ET)
Table 'Hakone' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: vokda ($1 in chips)
Seat 2: Sniperteam3 ($1.87 in chips)
Seat 3: normanator2 ($2.11 in chips)
Seat 4: the_copy_guy ($1.30 in chips)
Seat 5: fmotes ($2 in chips)
Seat 6: van_lunteren ($1.98 in chips)
Seat 7: gatorgator ($2 in chips)
Seat 8: ArchSeraphim ($1.39 in chips)
Seat 9: Anatoliy ($1.86 in chips)
normanator2: posts small blind $0.01
the_copy_guy: posts big blind $0.02
fmotes: posts big blind $0.02
gatorgator: posts big blind $0.02
vokda: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [4h Ac]
fmotes: checks
van_lunteren: folds
gatorgator: checks
ArchSeraphim: folds
Anatoliy: folds
vokda: checks
Sniperteam3: raises $0.06 to $0.08
normanator2: folds
the_copy_guy: calls $0.06
fmotes: folds
gatorgator: folds
vokda: calls $0.06
*** FLOP *** [5c 9d Jc]
the_copy_guy: checks
vokda: checks
Sniperteam3: bets $0.04
the_copy_guy: calls $0.04
vokda: raises $0.08 to $0.12
Sniperteam3: calls $0.08
the_copy_guy: folds
*** TURN *** [5c 9d Jc] [Kc]
vokda: bets $0.20
Sniperteam3: calls $0.20
*** RIVER *** [5c 9d Jc Kc] [9h]
vokda: bets $0.60 and is all-in
Sniperteam3: calls $0.60
*** SHOW DOWN ***
vokda: shows [4d 2h] (a pair of Nines)
Sniperteam3: shows [Qh Ad] (a pair of Nines - Ace kicker)
Sniperteam3 collected $2.07 from pot
vokda leaves the table
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.17 | Rake $0.10
Board [5c 9d Jc Kc 9h]
Seat 1: vokda showed [4d 2h] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 2: Sniperteam3 (button) showed [Qh Ad] and won ($2.07) with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: normanator2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: the_copy_guy (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: fmotes folded before Flop
Seat 6: van_lunteren folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: gatorgator folded before Flop
Seat 8: ArchSeraphim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Anatoliy folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 3 **************
PokerStars Game #1168708294: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/04 - 14:51:54 (ET)
Table 'Hakone' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: Sniperteam3 ($1.93 in chips)
Seat 3: normanator2 ($2.13 in chips)
Seat 4: the_copy_guy ($1.20 in chips)
Seat 6: van_lunteren ($2 in chips)
Seat 8: ArchSeraphim ($1.39 in chips)
Seat 9: Anatoliy ($1.86 in chips)
Sniperteam3: posts small blind $0.01
normanator2: posts big blind $0.02
van_lunteren: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [5d As]
the_copy_guy: raises $0.04 to $0.06
van_lunteren: folds
ArchSeraphim: folds
Anatoliy: folds
Sniperteam3: calls $0.05
normanator2: folds
*** FLOP *** [4c Ts 8s]
Sniperteam3: checks
vokda joins the table at seat #1
fmotes joins the table at seat #5
the_copy_guy: checks
*** TURN *** [4c Ts 8s] [2c]
Sniperteam3: checks
gatorgator joins the table at seat #7
the_copy_guy: checks
*** RIVER *** [4c Ts 8s 2c] [6s]
Sniperteam3: checks
the_copy_guy: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Sniperteam3: shows [Kh 2s] (a pair of Deuces)
the_copy_guy: shows [9h 9c] (a pair of Nines)
the_copy_guy collected $0.16 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.16 | Rake $0
Board [4c Ts 8s 2c 6s]
Seat 2: Sniperteam3 (small blind) showed [Kh 2s] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 3: normanator2 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: the_copy_guy showed [9h 9c] and won ($0.16) with a pair of Nines
Seat 6: van_lunteren folded before Flop
Seat 8: ArchSeraphim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Anatoliy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 4 **************
PokerStars Game #1168705219: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/04 - 14:51:04 (ET)
Table 'Hakone' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: Sniperteam3 ($2.03 in chips)
Seat 3: normanator2 ($2.13 in chips)
Seat 4: the_copy_guy ($1 in chips)
Seat 8: ArchSeraphim ($1.39 in chips)
Seat 9: Anatoliy ($1.96 in chips)
Anatoliy: posts small blind $0.01
Sniperteam3: posts big blind $0.02
the_copy_guy: posts big blind $0.02
van_lunteren: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [4c 7c]
normanator2: folds
the_copy_guy: checks
ArchSeraphim: folds
Anatoliy: calls $0.01
Sniperteam3: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ts 4d 9h]
dcperal leaves the table
Anatoliy: bets $0.08
Sniperteam3: calls $0.08
the_copy_guy: calls $0.08
*** TURN *** [Ts 4d 9h] [4s]
Anatoliy: checks
Sniperteam3: checks
the_copy_guy: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ts 4d 9h 4s] [2s]
Anatoliy: checks
Sniperteam3: checks
the_copy_guy: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Anatoliy: shows [Jd Qc] (a pair of Fours)
Sniperteam3: mucks hand
the_copy_guy: shows [5h Th] (two pair, Tens and Fours)
the_copy_guy collected $0.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.30 | Rake $0
Board [Ts 4d 9h 4s 2s]
Seat 2: Sniperteam3 (big blind) mucked [8s 7d]
Seat 3: normanator2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: the_copy_guy showed [5h Th] and won ($0.30) with two pair, Tens and Fours
Seat 8: ArchSeraphim (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Anatoliy (small blind) showed [Jd Qc] and lost with a pair of Fours

*********** # 5 **************
PokerStars Game #1168703488: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/04 - 14:50:36 (ET)
Table 'Hakone' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: Sniperteam3 ($2.03 in chips)
Seat 3: normanator2 ($2.10 in chips)
Seat 8: ArchSeraphim ($1.40 in chips)
Seat 9: Anatoliy ($1.98 in chips)
van_lunteren will be allowed to play after the button
ArchSeraphim: posts small blind $0.01
Anatoliy: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [3h Kc]
Sniperteam3: folds
normanator2: raises $0.02 to $0.04
ArchSeraphim: folds
Anatoliy: folds
the_copy_guy joins the table at seat #4
normanator2 collected $0.05 from pot
normanator2: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.05 | Rake $0
Seat 2: Sniperteam3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: normanator2 (button) collected ($0.05)
Seat 8: ArchSeraphim (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Anatoliy (big blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 6 **************
PokerStars Game #1168700026: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/04 - 14:49:38 (ET)
Table 'Hakone' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Sniperteam3 ($2.09 in chips)
Seat 3: normanator2 ($1.96 in chips)
Seat 4: mets_colts5 ($0.62 in chips)
Seat 8: ArchSeraphim ($1.42 in chips)
Seat 9: Anatoliy ($1.98 in chips)
normanator2: posts small blind $0.01
mets_colts5: posts big blind $0.02
van_lunteren: sits out
ArchSeraphim: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [Ts 3h]
ArchSeraphim: checks
Anatoliy: folds
Sniperteam3: calls $0.02
normanator2: calls $0.01
mets_colts5: checks
*** FLOP *** [2d 4h Jh]
normanator2: checks
mets_colts5: checks
ArchSeraphim: checks
Sniperteam3: checks
*** TURN *** [2d 4h Jh] [Js]
normanator2: checks
mets_colts5: checks
ArchSeraphim: checks
Sniperteam3: checks
*** RIVER *** [2d 4h Jh Js] [2s]
normanator2: checks
mets_colts5: checks
ArchSeraphim: checks
Sniperteam3: bets $0.04
normanator2: calls $0.04
mets_colts5: calls $0.04
ArchSeraphim: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Sniperteam3: shows [Qd 6h] (two pair, Jacks and Deuces)
normanator2: shows [Ah 3d] (two pair, Jacks and Deuces - Ace kicker)
mets_colts5: mucks hand
mets_colts5 leaves the table
normanator2 collected $0.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.20 | Rake $0
Board [2d 4h Jh Js 2s]
Seat 2: Sniperteam3 (button) showed [Qd 6h] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Deuces
Seat 3: normanator2 (small blind) showed [Ah 3d] and won ($0.20) with two pair, Jacks and Deuces
Seat 4: mets_colts5 (big blind) mucked [6d 3c]
Seat 8: ArchSeraphim folded on the River
Seat 9: Anatoliy folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 7 **************
PokerStars Game #1164667602: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/03 - 15:54:13 (ET)
Table 'Aneas' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: jc2play ($2.47 in chips)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 ($1.60 in chips)
Seat 3: zipes ($2.61 in chips)
Seat 4: Bute ($3.54 in chips)
Seat 5: Krawicz ($0.72 in chips)
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim ($0.99 in chips)
Seat 7: babctheroyal ($1.58 in chips)
Seat 8: dog1 ($3.84 in chips)
Seat 9: ali-baba25 ($1.24 in chips)
dog1: posts small blind $0.01
ali-baba25: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [Kd 9d]
jc2play: folds
cowcatcher71: calls $0.02
zipes: calls $0.02
Bute: calls $0.02
Krawicz: calls $0.02
ArchSeraphim: calls $0.02
babctheroyal: calls $0.02
dog1: calls $0.01
ali-baba25: checks
*** FLOP *** [8d 4d 6s]
dog1: bets $0.10
ali-baba25: calls $0.10
cowcatcher71: folds
zipes: folds
Bute: calls $0.10
Krawicz: calls $0.10
ArchSeraphim: calls $0.10
babctheroyal: folds
*** TURN *** [8d 4d 6s] [Qc]
dog1: bets $0.50
ali-baba25: folds
Bute: calls $0.50
Krawicz: folds
ArchSeraphim: raises $0.37 to $0.87 and is all-in
dog1: calls $0.37
Bute: calls $0.37
*** RIVER *** [8d 4d 6s Qc] [Qs]
dog1: bets $2.85 and is all-in
Bute: calls $2.55 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dog1: shows [7d 5h] (a straight, Four to Eight)
Bute: mucks hand
dog1 collected $4.85 from side pot
ArchSeraphim: mucks hand
dog1 collected $3.12 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.37 Main pot $3.12. Side pot $4.85. | Rake $0.40
Board [8d 4d 6s Qc Qs]
Seat 1: jc2play folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: zipes folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Bute mucked [Ah Ac]
Seat 5: Krawicz folded on the Turn
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim mucked [Kd 9d]
Seat 7: babctheroyal (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: dog1 (small blind) showed [7d 5h] and won ($7.97) with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 9: ali-baba25 (big blind) folded on the Turn

*********** # 8 **************
PokerStars Game #1164661608: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/03 - 15:52:31 (ET)
Table 'Aneas' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jc2play ($2.49 in chips)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 ($1.62 in chips)
Seat 3: zipes ($2.89 in chips)
Seat 4: Bute ($3.54 in chips)
Seat 5: Krawicz ($0.86 in chips)
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim ($1.01 in chips)
Seat 7: babctheroyal ($1.06 in chips)
Seat 8: dog1 ($3.86 in chips)
Seat 9: ali-baba25 ($1.26 in chips)
babctheroyal: posts small blind $0.01
dog1: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [Jh Kd]
ali-baba25: calls $0.02
jc2play: calls $0.02
cowcatcher71: calls $0.02
zipes: calls $0.02
Bute: folds
Krawicz: calls $0.02
ArchSeraphim: calls $0.02
babctheroyal: calls $0.01
dog1: checks
*** FLOP *** [3c 9s Ts]
babctheroyal: checks
dog1: checks
ali-baba25: checks
jc2play: checks
cowcatcher71: checks
zipes: bets $0.12
Krawicz: calls $0.12
ArchSeraphim: folds
babctheroyal: calls $0.12
dog1: folds
ali-baba25: folds
jc2play: folds
cowcatcher71: folds
*** TURN *** [3c 9s Ts] [7s]
babctheroyal: checks
zipes: bets $0.14
Krawicz: folds
babctheroyal: calls $0.14
*** RIVER *** [3c 9s Ts 7s] [6s]
babctheroyal: checks
zipes: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
babctheroyal: shows [Jd Tc] (a pair of Tens)
zipes: mucks hand
babctheroyal collected $0.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.80 | Rake $0
Board [3c 9s Ts 7s 6s]
Seat 1: jc2play folded on the Flop
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: zipes mucked [Jc 9h]
Seat 4: Bute folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Krawicz folded on the Turn
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: babctheroyal (small blind) showed [Jd Tc] and won ($0.80) with a pair of Tens
Seat 8: dog1 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: ali-baba25 folded on the Flop

*********** # 9 **************
PokerStars Game #1164656297: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/03 - 15:51:03 (ET)
Table 'Aneas' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: jc2play ($2.51 in chips)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 ($1.62 in chips)
Seat 3: zipes ($2.66 in chips)
Seat 4: Bute ($3.56 in chips)
Seat 5: Krawicz ($1 in chips)
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim ($1.02 in chips)
Seat 7: babctheroyal ($1.08 in chips)
Seat 8: dog1 ($3.86 in chips)
Seat 9: ali-baba25 ($1.28 in chips)
ArchSeraphim: posts small blind $0.01
babctheroyal: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [9d 8h]
dog1: folds
ali-baba25: calls $0.02
jc2play: calls $0.02
cowcatcher71: folds
zipes: calls $0.02
Bute: calls $0.02
Krawicz: calls $0.02
ArchSeraphim: folds
babctheroyal: checks
*** FLOP *** [8c 6s Kc]
babctheroyal: checks
ali-baba25: checks
jc2play: checks
zipes: checks
Bute: checks
Krawicz: checks
*** TURN *** [8c 6s Kc] [As]
babctheroyal: checks
ali-baba25: checks
jc2play: checks
zipes: bets $0.12
Bute: folds
Krawicz: calls $0.12
babctheroyal: folds
ali-baba25: folds
jc2play: folds
*** RIVER *** [8c 6s Kc As] [Qd]
zipes: checks
Krawicz: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zipes: shows [3s Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Krawicz: mucks hand
zipes collected $0.37 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.37 | Rake $0
Board [8c 6s Kc As Qd]
Seat 1: jc2play folded on the Turn
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: zipes showed [3s Ah] and won ($0.37) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: Bute folded on the Turn
Seat 5: Krawicz (button) mucked [8s Js]
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: babctheroyal (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 8: dog1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ali-baba25 folded on the Turn

*********** # 10 **************
PokerStars Game #1164648902: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/03 - 15:48:59 (ET)
Table 'Aneas' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: jc2play ($2.51 in chips)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 ($1.62 in chips)
Seat 3: zipes ($2.36 in chips)
Seat 4: Bute ($3.56 in chips)
Seat 5: Krawicz ($0.10 in chips)
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim ($1.04 in chips)
Seat 7: babctheroyal ($1.10 in chips)
Seat 8: dog1 ($3.88 in chips)
Seat 9: ali-baba25 ($1.42 in chips)
Krawicz: posts small blind $0.01
ArchSeraphim: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [3s 2h]
babctheroyal: calls $0.02
dog1: calls $0.02
ali-baba25: calls $0.02
jc2play: folds
cowcatcher71: folds
zipes: calls $0.02
Bute: folds
Krawicz: calls $0.01
ArchSeraphim: checks
*** FLOP *** [8h 6h 9c]
Krawicz: checks
ArchSeraphim: checks
babctheroyal: checks
dog1: checks
ali-baba25: checks
zipes: checks
*** TURN *** [8h 6h 9c] [Ks]
Krawicz: checks
ArchSeraphim: checks
babctheroyal: checks
dog1: checks
ali-baba25: checks
zipes: bets $0.12
Krawicz: calls $0.08 and is all-in
ArchSeraphim: folds
babctheroyal: folds
dog1: folds
ali-baba25: calls $0.12
*** RIVER *** [8h 6h 9c Ks] [3d]
ali-baba25: checks
zipes: bets $0.18
ali-baba25: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zipes: shows [7d Kd] (a pair of Kings)
zipes collected $0.08 from side pot
Krawicz: mucks hand
zipes collected $0.36 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.44 Main pot $0.36. Side pot $0.08. | Rake $0
Board [8h 6h 9c Ks 3d]
Seat 1: jc2play folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: zipes showed [7d Kd] and won ($0.44) with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: Bute (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Krawicz (small blind) mucked [9s Ac]
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: babctheroyal folded on the Turn
Seat 8: dog1 folded on the Turn
Seat 9: ali-baba25 folded on the River

*********** # 11 **************
PokerStars Game #1164639840: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/03 - 15:46:21 (ET)
Table 'Aneas' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: jc2play ($2.51 in chips)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 ($1.76 in chips)
Seat 3: zipes ($2.38 in chips)
Seat 4: Bute ($2.71 in chips)
Seat 5: Krawicz ($0.76 in chips)
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim ($1.04 in chips)
Seat 7: babctheroyal ($1.10 in chips)
Seat 8: dog1 ($3.90 in chips)
Seat 9: ali-baba25 ($1.48 in chips)
Bute: posts small blind $0.01
Krawicz: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [7h 6d]
ArchSeraphim: folds
babctheroyal: folds
dog1: calls $0.02
ali-baba25: calls $0.02
jc2play: folds
cowcatcher71: calls $0.02
zipes: calls $0.02
Bute: calls $0.01
Krawicz: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qd 7c 4c]
Bute: checks
Krawicz: checks
dog1: checks
ali-baba25: checks
cowcatcher71: checks
zipes: checks
*** TURN *** [Qd 7c 4c] [Ac]
Bute: checks
Krawicz: checks
dog1: checks
ali-baba25: checks
cowcatcher71: bets $0.02
zipes: folds
Bute: calls $0.02
Krawicz: calls $0.02
dog1: folds
ali-baba25: raises $0.02 to $0.04
cowcatcher71: calls $0.02
Bute: calls $0.02
Krawicz: calls $0.02
*** RIVER *** [Qd 7c 4c Ac] [2c]
Bute: checks
Krawicz: bets $0.08
ali-baba25: folds
cowcatcher71: calls $0.08
Bute: raises $0.52 to $0.60
Krawicz: calls $0.52
cowcatcher71: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Bute: shows [Kc 2s] (a flush, Ace high)
Krawicz: mucks hand
Bute collected $1.51 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.56 | Rake $0.05
Board [Qd 7c 4c Ac 2c]
Seat 1: jc2play folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 folded on the River
Seat 3: zipes (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: Bute (small blind) showed [Kc 2s] and won ($1.51) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: Krawicz (big blind) mucked [5c Ah]
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: babctheroyal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dog1 folded on the Turn
Seat 9: ali-baba25 folded on the River

*********** # 12 **************
PokerStars Game #1164633803: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/03 - 15:44:34 (ET)
Table 'Aneas' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: jc2play ($2.51 in chips)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 ($1.76 in chips)
Seat 3: zipes ($1.37 in chips)
Seat 4: Bute ($2.73 in chips)
Seat 5: Krawicz ($0.78 in chips)
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim ($1.54 in chips)
Seat 7: babctheroyal ($1.10 in chips)
Seat 8: dog1 ($3.92 in chips)
Seat 9: ali-baba25 ($1.98 in chips)
zipes: posts small blind $0.01
Bute: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [Qs 3c]
Krawicz: calls $0.02
ArchSeraphim: calls $0.02
babctheroyal: folds
dog1: calls $0.02
ali-baba25: calls $0.02
jc2play: folds
cowcatcher71: folds
zipes: calls $0.01
Bute: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jh 9s Tc]
zipes: bets $0.18
Bute: folds
Krawicz: folds
ArchSeraphim: calls $0.18
dog1: folds
ali-baba25: calls $0.18
*** TURN *** [Jh 9s Tc] [6h]
zipes: bets $0.30
ArchSeraphim: calls $0.30
ali-baba25: calls $0.30
*** RIVER *** [Jh 9s Tc 6h] [7d]
zipes: checks
ArchSeraphim: checks
ali-baba25: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zipes: shows [Jc 5c] (a pair of Jacks)
ArchSeraphim: mucks hand
ali-baba25: mucks hand
zipes collected $1.51 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.56 | Rake $0.05
Board [Jh 9s Tc 6h 7d]
Seat 1: jc2play folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: zipes (small blind) showed [Jc 5c] and won ($1.51) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 4: Bute (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Krawicz folded on the Flop
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim mucked [Qs 3c]
Seat 7: babctheroyal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dog1 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: ali-baba25 mucked [9d Ah]

*********** # 13 **************
PokerStars Game #1164628847: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/03 - 15:43:08 (ET)
Table 'Aneas' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jc2play ($2.53 in chips)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 ($1.78 in chips)
Seat 3: zipes ($1.49 in chips)
Seat 4: Bute ($2.73 in chips)
Seat 5: Krawicz ($0.58 in chips)
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim ($1.54 in chips)
Seat 7: babctheroyal ($1.10 in chips)
Seat 8: dog1 ($3.94 in chips)
Seat 9: ali-baba25 ($2 in chips)
cowcatcher71: posts small blind $0.01
zipes: posts big blind $0.02
ali-baba25: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [7h 2h]
Bute: folds
Krawicz: calls $0.02
ArchSeraphim: folds
babctheroyal: folds
dog1: calls $0.02
ali-baba25: checks
jc2play: calls $0.02
cowcatcher71: calls $0.01
zipes: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ad 8s Qs]
cowcatcher71: checks
zipes: bets $0.10
Krawicz: calls $0.10
dog1: folds
ali-baba25: folds
jc2play: folds
cowcatcher71: folds
*** TURN *** [Ad 8s Qs] [Ac]
zipes: checks
Krawicz: bets $0.46 and is all-in
zipes: folds
Krawicz collected $0.32 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.32 | Rake $0
Board [Ad 8s Qs Ac]
Seat 1: jc2play (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: zipes (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: Bute folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Krawicz collected ($0.32)
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: babctheroyal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dog1 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: ali-baba25 folded on the Flop

*********** # 14 **************
PokerStars Game #1164622561: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/03 - 15:41:20 (ET)
Table 'Aneas' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: jc2play ($1.93 in chips)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 ($1.98 in chips)
Seat 3: zipes ($1.55 in chips)
Seat 4: Bute ($2.73 in chips)
Seat 5: Krawicz ($0.64 in chips)
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim ($1.60 in chips)
Seat 7: babctheroyal ($1.12 in chips)
Seat 8: dog1 ($4.14 in chips)
ali-baba25 will be allowed to play after the button
jc2play: posts small blind $0.01
cowcatcher71: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [Kd 3s]
zipes: calls $0.02
Bute: folds
Krawicz: calls $0.02
ArchSeraphim: calls $0.02
babctheroyal: calls $0.02
dog1: calls $0.02
jc2play: raises $0.04 to $0.06
cowcatcher71: calls $0.04
zipes: calls $0.04
Krawicz: calls $0.04
ArchSeraphim: calls $0.04
babctheroyal: folds
dog1: calls $0.04
*** FLOP *** [4s Ac 8c]
jc2play: bets $0.08
cowcatcher71: calls $0.08
zipes: folds
Krawicz: folds
ArchSeraphim: folds
ali-baba25 said, "hola"
dog1: calls $0.08
*** TURN *** [4s Ac 8c] [3d]
jc2play: bets $0.06
cowcatcher71: calls $0.06
dog1: calls $0.06
*** RIVER *** [4s Ac 8c 3d] [8s]
jc2play: bets $0.10
cowcatcher71: folds
dog1: folds
jc2play collected $0.80 from pot
jc2play: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.80 | Rake $0
Board [4s Ac 8c 3d 8s]
Seat 1: jc2play (small blind) collected ($0.80)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: zipes folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Bute folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Krawicz folded on the Flop
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim folded on the Flop
Seat 7: babctheroyal folded before Flop
Seat 8: dog1 (button) folded on the River

*********** # 15 **************
PokerStars Game #1164617898: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/03 - 15:39:58 (ET)
Table 'Aneas' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: jc2play ($1.97 in chips)
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 ($2 in chips)
Seat 3: zipes ($1.93 in chips)
Seat 4: Bute ($2.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Krawicz ($0.68 in chips)
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim ($1.60 in chips)
Seat 7: babctheroyal ($1.16 in chips)
Seat 8: dog1 ($4.15 in chips)
dog1: posts small blind $0.01
JazzyJT92: is sitting out
JazzyJT92 leaves the table
jc2play: posts big blind $0.02
cowcatcher71: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [8c 3d]
cowcatcher71: checks
zipes: raises $0.02 to $0.04
Bute: calls $0.04
ali-baba25 joins the table at seat #9
Krawicz: calls $0.04
ArchSeraphim: folds
babctheroyal: calls $0.04
dog1: folds
jc2play: calls $0.02
cowcatcher71: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qs 6h 9s]
jc2play: checks
zipes: bets $0.12
Bute: calls $0.12
Krawicz: folds
babctheroyal: folds
jc2play: folds
*** TURN *** [Qs 6h 9s] [Jh]
zipes: checks
Bute: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qs 6h 9s Jh] [Th]
zipes: bets $0.22
Bute: calls $0.22
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zipes: shows [7s 7h] (a pair of Sevens)
Bute: shows [Ks Jd] (a straight, Nine to King)
Bute collected $0.91 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.91 | Rake $0
Board [Qs 6h 9s Jh Th]
Seat 1: jc2play (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: cowcatcher71 folded before Flop
Seat 3: zipes showed [7s 7h] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 4: Bute showed [Ks Jd] and won ($0.91) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 5: Krawicz folded on the Flop
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: babctheroyal (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: dog1 (small blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 16 **************
PokerStars Game #1164615044: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2005/02/03 - 15:39:09 (ET)
Table 'Aneas' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jc2play ($1.97 in chips)
Seat 2: Tony_rr ($2.04 in chips)
Seat 3: zipes ($2.01 in chips)
Seat 4: Bute ($2.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Krawicz ($0.68 in chips)
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim ($1.60 in chips)
Seat 7: babctheroyal ($0.90 in chips)
Seat 8: dog1 ($4.17 in chips)
Seat 9: JazzyJT92 ($0.73 in chips)
babctheroyal: posts small blind $0.01
dog1: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ArchSeraphim [2s 4d]
JazzyJT92: raises $0.06 to $0.08
jc2play: folds
Tony_rr: folds
zipes: calls $0.08
Tony_rr leaves the table
Bute: folds
Krawicz: folds
ArchSeraphim: folds
babctheroyal: calls $0.07
dog1: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d Kh 9s]
babctheroyal: checks
JazzyJT92: bets $0.08
zipes: folds
babctheroyal: calls $0.08
*** TURN *** [3d Kh 9s] [Jd]
babctheroyal: checks
JazzyJT92: checks
*** RIVER *** [3d Kh 9s Jd] [4c]
babctheroyal: checks
JazzyJT92: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
babctheroyal: shows [Ac Ah] (a pair of Aces)
cowcatcher71 joins the table at seat #2
JazzyJT92: mucks hand
babctheroyal collected $0.42 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.42 | Rake $0
Board [3d Kh 9s Jd 4c]
Seat 1: jc2play folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Tony_rr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: zipes folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Bute folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Krawicz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ArchSeraphim (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: babctheroyal (small blind) showed [Ac Ah] and won ($0.42) with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: dog1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: JazzyJT92 mucked [7s 7d]

I didn't read through all the hands, but regardless - the same thing happened to me. You were just getting lucky before. You were probably playing 75% of your hands and pulling out hands somehow either by catching something or overbetting so people folded. This works short term, but long term you will lose everything. When I first came here and read some articles and posts, I tried them out. I didn't do too well. But as I read more and try new things, I'm gettting better and I know that I was a fish. Now I'm less of a fish, but I'm getting better every day. I still make dumb mistakes, but I realize they are mistakes and learn from them. If you keep reading and applying what you learn, you will be sucessful longterm.

I'm no expert but here's where I'd question your play...

Hand 1: Pocket Ts
You just called and let 6 players see the flop. Pocket Pairs, especially Js, Ts and 9s, will never stand on their own against 5 opponents. You have to place a decent pre-flop bet to chase many, or even take it down right then. Or if you just call 'em, play it like Pocket 2s... if you don't catch the trips, they're almost useless. But once 5 people see the flop, you're dead.

Hand 7; Flush Draw
At the turn, I'd question your raise. Calling the .50 may even be marginal since your flush-draw was to the K and not A. PLus you were playing 2, not 1 opponent.

Hand 8; KJo
You had position, a modest pre-flop raise here might have reduced the field of opponents and/or bought you a free-card at the turn with everyone checking to you. At the flop, I don't think I would have folded, with 2 overcards and a gutshot straight draw.

Hand 9; 98o, Small Blind
Personally, I'd have played this in the small blind (but would have folded to any action post-flop, even with middle pair).

Hand 11; Q3o
You're in bad position. I would fold it pre-flop. Your .30 call at the turn against a $1.26 pot with an OS draw, with one overcard, was probably OK... barely, but against 2 opponents, I might have folded here too.

Hand 14; K3o
Big-Little offsuits are just sucker traps to lose with that crappy kicker. Fold it. Notice how you made the first call, then had a raise behind you that forced a second-call. This illustrates how important your position is. And how marginal decisions can make you "leak" money.

It takes a while to find your game. Keep playing and try to learn from every hand. Start with preflop play and know why you're getting into a hand - position, cards and the action of the other players; they all matter.

Post flop you'll have to get a feel for how your limit and type game players play and adjust your game. Different limits play differently - more loose for lower (or micro) limits, more standard and agressive play on higher limits. There are different syles of play for loose/weak tables vs agressive/strong tables. The main thing with loose micro tables (I used to play .5/$1 which isn't really micro) is that you have to watch out for drawing hands and be able to spot when the other player hit it.

Poker is learned over thousands of hands of play - regardless of the books. They give you the theory, but you adjust based on the conditions at your table. And you'll find where your style game fits best. I learned playing .5/$1 over a number of years, but found my own playing SnG NL games. There are fewer decisions that are played for more chips. But, I'm not a fan of NL Ring games. And limit to me now is like watching paint dry.

If you're trying to play too sophisticated a game - based on the books - then you might want to simplify. I have a chart I made that tells me what to do in most common situations, and when in doubt I follow the chart. (and I've been playing for years) The key is to play consistently - win or lose. Then you can analyze how that is working over the long term and make adjustments. At micro levels you're playing to build your Game, not really your bankroll.

When I lose a number of tournaments then I look at my notes from each tournament and ask what happened? How did I misplay or was it just bad luck. Consistent bad luck generally means you're playing 2nd best cards, your game is right but you're playing the wrong stakes (I doubt I could win money long term on micro tables because there are too many calling stations who play anything), or you're underbetting and letting people get free or cheap cards when you're ahead.

Play the limits that you can afford, but I'll tell you a story. When I was a teenager I read a book on how to teach my cat to use the toilet. I tried and tried to get the cat to do it, according to the book. And then I realized that THE CAT didn't read the book!!! You may be playing a good game against people who are too stupid to know they're beat, so they keep drawing miracle hands. If they didn't read the book, then they can't be toilet trained.

#1 Keep playing.
#2 Keep playing correctly - like anything good habits pay off long term
#3 Learn from every hand and decide if it was your cards, your betting, your reads/observation, bad beat, etc. and improve over time.

Alright. i'll tackle these hands 1 by 1.

Hand 1: RAISE. Tens are not going to hold up in a multiway pot unless you hit a set. Had you raised preflop, you wouldn't have to worry so much about that baby pair on the flop. secondly, bet the flop. Don't wait for the checkraise here, unless you're doing it for information, because the only thing that's gonna call it is a hand that can beat you. I'd lay it down to the re-raise here. The 5 on the river makes it less likely he has that 4th 5... but you don't know that at this point. You're down to two outs, and can be pretty sure you're beat. Raise preflop, and that 5-2 probably lays it down. Probably.

Hand 2 - Nice fold, I guess. Not much to say here.

Hand 3 - Definitely a lay down facing the 3xBB raise. That's a poor bet on his part with 9s UTG, but that's not really your concern until you've got a read on them.

Hand 4. Easy Muck.

Hand 5: Good muck.

Hand 6: They gave you plenty of opportunities to catch a card. Oh well. Nothing you can do.

Hand 7: Don't bluff at these limits. It's not worth it. All in on a Flush draw is burning money. Once he makes it 50 cents, your pot odds are gone. Your K high isn't good. FOLD. FOLD. FOLD.

Hand 8: Pretty good fold. I Might have popped it for a small raise preflop to thin the field a little... but it wouldn't have paid off for you.

Hand 9: Complete the unraised SB. They're connectors. Hell, at this level, it's playable. You didn't hit the flop hard enough... but if you had, the other players will pay you off enough to make it worth a penny.

Hand 10: Gotta fold.

Hand 11: Good fold.

Hand 12: Two weak from early position. Fold. Actually, just fold it anywhere.

Hand 13: Fold. Fold. Fold.

Hand 14: Too weak for middle position, and definitely not worth calling a raise. Fold preflop.

Hand 15: Yup. Fold.

Hand 16: Fold.

These hands really don't tell us, or you much. Other than the misplay of the pocket tens, I'd say you just got some cold cards. You really only had one marginally solid hand (KJo) in that sixteeen hand run. Your folds were good. You overplayed some weak holdings. Remember.. that's the mistake your opponents make, not you. Be patient. The cards will come.

These should probably be over in Hand Histories, for future reference. Also... next time you post, try to post some more interesting decisions. 70 percent of these hands were easy preflop folds. Theres no real decision to be made there and nothing to analyze. you're not going to learn much from them. Good luck...

I'm concerned about the limits you are playing. If you really feel you are a good player, you need to get a little ballsy and up the ante. It's tough for anyone at any level to consistently dominate the No HOld em Fold em tables.

I mean "No Fold Em Hold Em". A little late night dyslexic drunkeness.

I guess the thing is my bankroll has been taking a few major hits lately, and being that I am not, independantly wealthy I tend to clench... right now I hit dead broke in my online account, and have been mainly playing freeroll tournaments and playing offline... I'm up offline and in total i have essentially broken even... however my online account is kaput. I'm really up in the air about seriously starting again online, I have finished in at least the top 50 on the pokerstars tourneys out of 5k people or so, but I don't know how to classify the average play quality of freeroll players.. so its difficult for me to gauge my play...

based on Fortune's feedback, you need a tighter, more consistent game. Playing freerolls probably won't help that happen.

Go back to the books, and based on what they say, make a chart for yourself that says what you'll play in what situations. I have one and it keeps my game consistent. When I feel I'm playing too much "by feel" or I lose a hand and realize I misplayed it, I go to the chart.

It says what hands I'll play preflop for ALL of the following situations:

Early postion, middle position, late position, against a single raise, against a raise and reraise, against multiple limpers and SB vs BB play.

And it tells me what to do (raise 3-5xbb, call, reraise or fold, fold fold)

Then I have another little part that reminds me what to look for facing a raise (or reraise) post flop. (no I won't sent it to you, lol)

But, if nothing else it will keep you from playing junk in any position at any time. And it will keep you from playing medeocre cards in early position or against a raise in front of you (even if you're on the blind). AND it will tell you that you have to raise, so you don't let people into the hand that have no business being there.