A Question for Players with "Live" Tourny Experien

Hey All

When it comes to no limit hold em I know how it is very important to understand pot odds when it comes to making decisions about any particular hand. Online it is very easy to follow odds that a player is giving you and vice versa as the pot size is always there for you to see. Of course when playing in a live tourny you don't have the benefit of an exact count of the pot size readily and automatically counted for you to see.

I was in my first live tourny last week and it was a chore at times to keep an accurate count of the pot size as a hand unfolded particularly with multiple players in the pot and then adding in raises and what not. 2 to 3 players in the hand of course isn't that bad.

Do you guys have any counting shortcuts that you use to keep a running tab on the pot size in your head? Again this was my first live tourny so I'm sure after practice it will come more naturally, but if there are some effective shortcuts that you guys use to get a good estimate I'd like to hear from you, as I'd rather worry less about counting the pot size and concentrate more on the actual hand in play.

Thanks in Advance!!!

Anyone :?:

imo worry less about pot odds and worry about your hand and the other players.

Live B&M ring games, the dealer can give you the pot size (but dont ask too often). If u r playing a home game it's more difficult. try taking the PFR x #callers and that should get u close...B&M/home game dont require such calculations (usually). Play your strong hands, and learn chip tricks...I have few friends who believe they dont help but they seem to fold when i bet, so fuck them

Just pay attention to the BB size and do some quick math. If everyone calls BB well thats simple... if a bet is made just do the addition as everyone calls or raises. It gets easier with practice, but as someone else said I wouldn't worry about pot odds too much in live games. I'd focus on position and the players.