i'm new... did i play this right?

CARDSON

Event Name: Table Hotsy (#1236390)RNHB
Event Started: Tuesday December 21st 11:01:35 PM CST 2004
Event Type: BugsysClub Real Money Ring Game
Game: No Limit Hold 'em
Stakes: $0.05/$0.10 Blinds ($0.05 Minimum Chip)
Seat 1 : skoom starts with $7.80
Seat 2 : marcyleigh starts with $2.20
Seat 3 : Lotusman starts with $14.20
Seat 6 : bryanzak starts with $11.90
Seat 7 : sean starts with $1.90
Seat 8 : CookieNipples starts with $25.45
Seat 9 : Vermont starts with $6.10
Seat 10 : jaffa_cake starts with $5.05
Seat 3 : Lotusman has the dealer button
bryanzak posts the small blind $0.05
sean posts the big blind $0.10
>>>DEALING HOLE CARDS<<<
skoom dealt down [Jc 7c]
CookieNipples calls $0.10
Vermont folds
jaffa_cake calls $0.10
skoom calls $0.10
marcyleigh calls $0.10
Lotusman folds
bryanzak folds
sean checks
>>>DEALING FLOP<<< [ 7h 9s Jh ]
sean checks
CookieNipples checks
jaffa_cake bets $0.50
skoom calls $0.50
marcyleigh folds
sean folds
CookieNipples folds
>>>DEALING TURN<<< [ Kh ]
jaffa_cake checks
skoom bets $0.50
Seat 5 : rm8t0 starts with $2
jaffa_cake raises $0.75 to $1.25
skoom folds
jaffa_cake takes back $0.75
jaffa_cake does not show hand
jaffa_cake wins $2.45
>>>SUMMARY<<<
Hand Ended: Wednesday December 22nd 1:11:33 AM CST 2004
Total Pot: $2.45 ($0.10 rake)
Board: [ 7h 9s Jh Kh ]
Seat 1 : skoom lost $1.10, folded on the turn
Seat 2 : marcyleigh lost $0.10, folded on the flop
Seat 3 : Lotusman (button) did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 6 : bryanzak (small blind) lost $0.05, folded pre-flop
Seat 7 : sean (big blind) lost $0.10, folded on the flop
Seat 8 : CookieNipples lost $0.10, folded on the flop
Seat 9 : Vermont did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 10 : jaffa_cake bet $1.10, won $2.45, net +$1.35, did not show hand

fold preflop.

otherwise, raise the pot size on the flop. the board is coordinated and you want flush and straight drawers to pay for the next card.

You typically shouldn't be playing J7 suited or not unless you're in the blinds or possibly on the button. I guess I'm seeing the flop with it though so at least it's for the mimimum. Flop comes giving me two pair and someone bets into me. Personally, I re-raise and for more than the mimimum. I have a pretty strong, yet vulnerable hand at this point so I bet it strong to find out exactly where I stand, especially since I have position. My next move depends on my opponents reaction.

so in this situation since i did have the top two-pair then I should bet hard to test the waters rather than just to call... at the time i felt he had top pair and tried to bet out the flush and str8 drawa....so i thought i might play slow...then the flush flopped and he bet hard again and i just lost it and folded...... so i stick to my first instincts?

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Originally Posted by skoom

so i stick to my first instincts?

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It's not about first instincts or "testing the waters." It's about protection.

You have a strong hand on the flop, but the board is straightening and flushing -- you saw this. You want to protect it against those draws. You want all but the weakest players to fold. If they're going to chase, make it expensive for them. I would bet at least pot-size on the flop -- usually more than the pot. I hate getting outdrawn, so I make the fish pay big if they're going to chase.


But again, you should not be playing J7 -- suited or not!

J7s is a preflop fold. Nice laydown on that turn though. Bad play on the flop though.

If you want a full breakdown of what hands to play where and how, check the hand groups section of this website, it helped me out a great deal when I was starting out.


EDIT: Oh and another tip, don't play at BugsysClub, they smell.....like old bread.

Need to go somewhere where more fish (hang on, not just fish, PLAYERS) are around, like PokerStars or PartyPoker.

CARDSON

how about this hand.... i don't know if i under betted.... i felt that he was bluffing or only had top pair....

Hand Number: 147,690,798
Table Number: 1,658,221
Event Name: Table Hotsy (#1236390)RNHB
Event Started: Tuesday December 21st 11:01:35 PM CST 2004
Event Type: BugsysClub Real Money Ring Game
Game: No Limit Hold 'em
Stakes: $0.05/$0.10 Blinds ($0.05 Minimum Chip)
Seat 1 : terrellk11 starts with $14.20
Seat 2 : tomtopaz starts with $12.65
Seat 3 : MrSlyfox starts with $8.15
Seat 4 : hardtobeat starts with $4.80
Seat 5 : Stryder starts with $7.15
Seat 6 : JuneMarte starts with $49.45
Seat 7 : skoom starts with $37.45
Seat 8 : tommy_f starts with $21.95
Seat 9 : Idoru99 starts with $9.80
Seat 10 : BoDsativa starts with $12.90
Seat 8 : tommy_f has the dealer button
Idoru99 posts the small blind $0.05
BoDsativa posts the big blind $0.10
>>>DEALING HOLE CARDS<<<
skoom dealt down 4c 4d
terrellk11 folds
tomtopaz calls $0.10
MrSlyfox folds
hardtobeat folds
Stryder raises $0.40 to $0.50
JuneMarte calls $0.50
skoom calls $0.50
tommy_f folds
Idoru99 folds
BoDsativa calls $0.40
tomtopaz folds
>>>DEALING FLOP<<< [ Jc 9s 4h ]
BoDsativa bets $0.10
Stryder calls $0.10
JuneMarte raises $0.40 to $0.50
skoom calls $0.50
BoDsativa folds
Stryder calls $0.40
>>>DEALING TURN<<< [ 2d ]
Stryder checks
JuneMarte bets $0.60
skoom calls $0.60
Stryder calls $0.60
>>>DEALING RIVER<<< [ Js ]
Stryder checks
JuneMarte checks
skoom bets $3
Stryder folds
JuneMarte calls $3
skoom cards were 4c 4d
JuneMarte mucks hand
skoom wins $11 with a full house, fours full of jacks
BoDsativa has left the table
>>>SUMMARY<<<
Hand Ended: Wednesday December 22nd 6:49:18 AM CST 2004
Total Pot: $11 ($0.55 rake)
Board: [ Jc 9s 4h 2d Js ]
Seat 1 : terrellk11 did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 2 : tomtopaz lost $0.10, folded pre-flop
Seat 3 : MrSlyfox did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 4 : hardtobeat did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 5 : Stryder lost $1.60, folded on the river
Seat 6 : JuneMarte lost $4.60, mucked hand (cards were [9d Qs])
Seat 7 : skoom bet $4.60, won $11, net +$6.40, showed hand [ 4c 4d ]
Seat 8 : tommy_f (button) did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 9 : Idoru99 (small blind) lost $0.05, folded pre-flop
Seat 10 : BoDsativa (big blind) lost $0.60, folded on the flop

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Originally Posted by dwarfman1990

EDIT: Oh and another tip, don't play at BugsysClub, they smell.....like old bread.

Need to go somewhere where more fish (hang on, not just fish, PLAYERS) are around, like PokerStars or PartyPoker.

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I have actually only started online poker for a week....and was recommended Bugsy's by my friend. I have no idea what makes which online poker site better or worse... and i am taking what you mean by fish as in looser players correctly? tough old veterans hang out at bugsy's then? i think i might make the switch.

Raise the turn by .6, With that board and action, I'm fairly certain I'm winning this every time. Get some more money in the pot and make the river bet a little bigger.

-'rilla