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Winning Poker Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: $2.72
BB: $1.92
UTG: $2.00
Hero (CO): $2.18
BTN: $6.85
SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02, UTG posts penalty blind $0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.05) Hero has T:spade: T:club:
UTG raises to $0.04, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, fold, BB calls $0.10, UTG calls $0.08
Flop: ($0.37, 3 players) Q:heart: J:heart: 8:heart:
BB checks, UTG bets $0.24, Hero???
This is a fold on the flop, correct?
fold
Cool...
Winning Poker Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: $2.72
BB: $1.92
UTG: $2.00
Hero (CO): $2.18
BTN: $6.85
SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02, UTG posts penalty blind $0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.05) Hero has T:spade: T:club:
UTG raises to $0.04, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, fold, BB calls $0.10, UTG calls $0.08
Flop: ($0.37, 3 players) Q:heart: J:heart: 8:heart:
BB checks, UTG bets $0.24, fold, BB calls $0.24
Turn: ($0.85, 2 players) 9:diamond:
BB bets $1.56 and is all-in, UTG calls $1.56
River: ($3.97, 2 players) 6:spade:
BB shows T:diamond: T:heart: (Straight, Queen High) (Pre 57%, Flop 22%, Turn 82%)
UTG shows Q:diamond: A:heart: (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 43%, Flop 78%, Turn 18%)
BB wins $3.78
lol nice
Well, if I would have won here, I would have just split UTG's stack with BB, no? I know my fold was still sound but I'm just making sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Looking at it though, I guess I would have actually been betting $2 to win $1 with all sorts of hands crushing me.
I just meant lol nice at him having the same hand as you. Folding there is more than fine.
Probably worth having a think about how many outs you have on the flop to make the best hand, and then how many of those are clean. Then there's the fact that somebody could have already flopped a flush:
Th: no good - completes the flush and some possible straight combos that get to the turn.
Td: maybe good, but flopped flushes and higher sets are still ahead and some draws got there.
9h: no good
9d 9s 9c: okay in theory, but KT now has a better straight and you're never going to get anybody else to plough money into the pot when your straight is obvious and when you are still good. Plus flopped flushes, sets, yada yada
So, you get to the turn where any one of 47 possible turn cards could come (52 in the deck less the 2 you hold and the 3 on the flop). Of those 47, only 4 at most are good cards for you and it's possible none are any good. Even if they are good, you're not getting paid. Therefore no-brainer fold.
Worth taking a note on BBs spaz-out btw. Could prove invaluable.
What everyone else said above, plus you really don't need to play defense in 4-way raised pots. It's impossible for anyone in EP to exploit you by betting with trash a high percentage of the time in these situations, because someone just about always has something. Poker gets to be pretty 1st level once you get to 4-way+ pots.
(That is, raised pots. In limped pots, the ranges are so wide, the bar for playable hands is so low, and the SPR is so high that a lot more non-standard play takes place.)