Couple of river spots facing aggression 100NL

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10-21-2014, 10:13 AM
Sup3rM4N

Couple of river spots facing aggression 100NL

Hand 1: Villain is a fish who calls down light. I have not seen him be this agro before postflop.

UTG (€216.33)
Button (€100)
Hero (SB) (€283.32)
BB (€194.48)

Preflop: Herois SB with:qd:,:kh:
UTG calls €1,1 fold, Hero raises €3.50,1 fold, UTG calls €3

Flop: (€9):ks:,:3c:,:qh:(2 players)
Herobets €6, UTG calls €6

Turn: (€21):tc:(2 players)
Herobets €15, UTG calls €15

River: (€51):5h:(2 players)
Herobets €38, UTG raises €115, €77 to Hero

Hand 2: Villain is a reg. Unfortunately I don't have a read and don't have any history. Standard to fold here or call? He's bet sizing pretty much makes my hand seem like a bluff catcher. Not sure if he would turn a worse hand into a bluff here.

Edit: Not sure why flop is showing only two cards. There was an Ace of diamond on the flop as well.

CO (€43.65)
Button (€127.12)
SB (€14.14)
BB (€100)
UTG (€101.53)
Hero (MP) (€428.82)

Preflop: Herois MP with:ac:,:9c:
1fold, Hero raises €3, 1fold, Button calls €3, 2 folds

Flop: (€7.50):2d:,:jc:,http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/ad.gif(2 players)
Herobets €5, Button calls €5

Turn:(€17.50):as:(2 players)
Herobets €11.50, Button calls €11.50

River:(€40.50):3s:(2 players)
Hero checks,Button bets €30

Hand 3: Villain is a reg. I bet small/called to try to keep the fish in or win a smallish pot. I think if villain hit QT he would've raised turn heads up but since fish is in, is there any chance villain could call QT on turn and jam river here or is this always 34? Of course he is getting a great price on turn to call with draw. We have been playing three way on this table few orbits so not much read. He has been raising wide preflop and playing pretty standard postflop.

Button (€29.04)
Hero (SB) (€100.90)
BB (€193.18)

Preflop: Herois SB with:5d:,:5h:
Button calls €1,Hero calls €0.50, BB checks

Flop: (€3):td:,:6h:,:5c:(3 players)
Herobets €2, BB calls €2, Button raises €4, Herocalls €2, BB calls €2

Turn: (€15):qs:(3 players)
Herobets €7.50, BB calls €7.50, Button calls €7.50

River: €37.50):2d:(3 players)
Herobets €20, BB raises €180.68 (All-In),1 fold, €68.40 to Hero
10-21-2014, 12:37 PM
Eric

The turn card on hand 1 isn't pretty. Hard to say what percentage of his range belongs to AJ.
10-21-2014, 12:42 PM
Eric

Hand 2 i call with pot odds of 7:3.
10-21-2014, 02:39 PM
Eric

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sup3rM4N

is there any chance villain could call QT on turn and jam river here or is this always 34?

I don't think this is always 34.
10-22-2014, 05:43 PM
pocketfours

1. I'd fold, whatever.

2. I think b/f > c/c so I'd fold.

3. I'd 3bet flop and c/shove river as played.
10-23-2014, 10:35 AM
Alexos

1-fold
2-b/f prob > c/c but as played def call
3-yea dont like flop play either c/r or 3b flop there. I think QT and some air is in his range too so i call
10-23-2014, 11:02 PM
Eric

Yeah, I think you guys are right about folding hand #1.
10-24-2014, 10:21 AM
pocketfours

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexos

2-b/f prob > c/c but as played def call

Naah I couldn't c/c and then table A9 when shown KJ.
10-25-2014, 11:30 AM
Deanglow

3 seems like a pretty clear fold to me
10-25-2014, 02:41 PM
Eric

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deanglow

3 seems like a pretty clear fold to me

Yeah, I might fold here. Still, it isn't all that clear for me.
10-27-2014, 12:26 PM
griffey24

1) Gross spot, I think this is a fold but I'd prob b/c in practice often.
2) If I'm checking, it's definitely with the intention of c/c. What hands are we c/c with here if not this one? He could even be value towning a worse Ax let alone bluffing.
3) Definitely c/r or 3b flop. Yes in general I'd say it's nice to keep in the fish, but here we have another player building a pot up when we have a set. Just take him out, if fish also comes along then great. As played, meh calling river vs a fish who could be spazzing with some weir hands.
10-28-2014, 06:55 PM
daven

hand 1 - fold
hand 2 - call
hand 3 - 3b flop. River is probably a fold as played.
10-28-2014, 10:22 PM
Eric

Quote:

Originally Posted by daven

hand 1 - fold
hand 2 - call
hand 3 - 3b flop. River is probably a fold as played.

Yeah, I see the logic here. Still, the decisions aren't easy for me.
10-29-2014, 02:04 PM
Renton

1. more on flop. The probability that he calls your flop cbet does not substantially change when your bet goes from 6 to 8 dollars, so bet 8 dollars, not 6, OK?

Turn, again a pair plus gutshot will not fold for a 20 dollar bet, so you're missing 5 dollars of EV (plus the future EV of a bigger bet into a bigger river pot) by betting 15 instead of 20. On the river, definitely fold. I would fold KK as well, he'll have AJ/J9 nearly 100% of the time.

2. It doesn't make a lot of sense to bet the turn with a made hand that cannot value bet any river, IMO. As MP I would tend to check this hand either on flop or turn. As played it looks like you're pretty low in your range, he probably doesn't bluff diamonds when checked to when your range appears to be polarized to AQ+ or air. He has to legitimately fear a c/r here from AJ/JJ so I doubt he bets many weak hands at all. C/f I think.

3. Bet pot on flop vs a fish. 2 dollar bet means pot size bets on turn and river will be 7 and 21. 3 dollar bet means 9 and 27. It's a large difference and the fish's flop call frequency will not substantially change between 2 and 3.

3-bet flop without a doubt. It's a disaster to give a free card when SB has 87 or a gutter, not only because he could draw out on you, but also because he'll get the fish's money. You have the opportunity to isolate the fish out of the pot and lower your variance. Take it. On the river BB has 43 almost every time. No other hand makes sense, and its never a bluff. Keep in mind that 43 is 16 combos and the flop and turn action substantially narrows BB's any-two-cards range. It's actually quite easy for him to have the nuts here.