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FTR Werewolf: Gold Rush FAQs

Start Date: Saturday, August 16th

Confirmed Players (15)

a500lbgorilla
baudib
bigred
bikes
Credsfan03
gabe
GatorJH
GrayFoxxxx
Keith
Keybored
lolzzz_321
OngBonga
rong
SweetClaireRose
wufwugy

Rules

General Guidelines

* This match includes some new Werewolf players. Explanations of roles will be provided and players are welcome to submit general questions directly to me via Private Message.
* To submit a "Lynch" vote during the Day cycle, simply type Lynch x-Player (in bold text) within a post. If you would like to "Rescind" the vote, you should also notify the Narrator in the same format. Rescinds are not required, but appreciated.
* Day-cycle lynches will occur once a majority of the remaining players have arrived at a consensus. If there is no majority, the player with the most "Lynch" votes will be eliminated once the Day-cycle ends. If there is a tie, then the player who was first to arrive at the tying number will be eliminated.
* The game ends when no Wolves are remaining (Villager/Hero Victory) or when the number of Wolves is greater than or equal to the number of Villagers (Wolf/Villain Victory).
* Day-cycles will last 48-72 hours. Night-cycles will last 24-48 hours (at Narrator's discretion).
* There are no secret Win Conditions. In order to achieve Victory for your faction (Villager/Hero or Wolf/Villain), you must fulfill the goal(s) outlined in the PMs published below.

DO

1. Participate actively in this thread if you are playing. The more information (true or false) that is posted the more entertaining matches tend to be.
2. Stay informed on post activity of other players by reading in-thread activity as much as possible.
3. Send me a Private Message if you have any questions/doubts about Roles, Gameplay, etc.

DON'T

* Note: Failure to comply with any of the following could result in an instant Narrator-kill (i.e. elimination from the match).

1. Discuss gameplay outside of this thread (unless you are authorized to do so by the Narrator).
2. Edit posts. Once you have posted something, any edit should be clarified in a separate post.
3. Post any Private Message communication from me in this thread, or share it off-forum with anyone who is playing.
4. Excessively flame, spam, or intentionally provoke a player to break the rules.
5. Post in this thread during a non-introductory Night-cycle.
6. Post in this thread (or the Wolf Den) if you have been eliminated. A separate thread may be provided for you at a later time.

ROLES & ALIGNMENTS

* Role capabilities have been tweaked. The aim is to make the match as balanced as possible.

VILLAGER (Hero)
SEER (Odd Night) (Hero)
ANGEL (Hero)
VIGILANTE (Even Night) (Hero)
WOLF (Villain)

ORDER OF NIGHT-CYCLE ACTION

Angel -----> VIGILANTE -----> WOLVES -----> SEER

Private Message Examples (Source: JKDS)

* You may click the "Show" button for all of these regardless of your faction/role. They are not really "Spoilers" per-se, but rather explanations of each role and its win condition.

Regular Villager

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Welcome to FTR Werewolf: Gold Rush!
Your role is Regular Villager.
Although you have no special powers, your voice and vote can be powerful weapons in their own right. Use them to your best advantage.
Win Condition: You are aligned with the Village! Thus you win the game once all the wolves are dead, whether you are alive or not.

Seer (Odd Night)

Spoiler: Show

Welcome to FTR Werewolf: Gold Rush!
Your role is Seer.
On odd-numbered nights you may send me the name of one target player to investigate. If you do, I will tell you whether that player is aligned with the Village or with the Wolves.
Win Condition: You are aligned with the Village! Thus you win the game once all the wolves are dead, whether you are alive or not.

Angel

Spoiler: Show

Welcome to FTR Werewolf: Gold Rush!
Your role is Angel.
Every night you may send me the name of one target player. That player will be protected from all kill attempts on them, however they will also be prevented from using any abilities or submitting any night kills. You may not protect yourself--nor can you protect the same player consecutively.
Win Condition: You are aligned with the Village! Thus you win the game once all the wolves are dead, whether you are alive or not.

Vigilante (Even Night)

Spoiler: Show

Welcome to FTR Werewolf: Gold Rush!
Your role is Vigilante.
On even-numbered nights you may send me the name of one target player. That player will die during the night unless the angel intervenes.
Win Condition: You are aligned with the Village! Thus you win the game once all the wolves are dead, whether you are alive or not.

Wolf

Spoiler: Show

Welcome to FTR Werewolf: Gold Rush!
Your role is Wolf.
Your team is composed of _____, _____, and _____.
In addition to the game thread, you may speak to your fellow Wolves in this thread here: _________.
Win Condition: You are aligned with the Wolves! You will win the game once the living Villagers no longer outnumber the living Wolves.

Thread LOCKED Temporarily

Prologue

*Roles unassigned --- all players may appear within narration at any time. The story has no bearing on factions.

OngBonga's mouth felt particularly dry upon removing the worn saddle from his steed's backside and tying "Colt" to one of the available makeshift fence posts outside the saloon.

It had been a long day for him and the rest of his friends... some he had known for years and others were new arrivals in Gold Rush.

Upon pushing open the doors and taking in the familiar, aged atmosphere of his favorite watering hole, he was greeted by baudib and Keith, who had both come from behind the bar to greet the man who had single-handedly knocked off two bottles of whiskey during a recent binge-filled afternoon.

"So there's another body," asked Keith. "Yes," replied Ong coldly. "That makes three in as many nights."

"If we don't catch the person or people responsible for this, we'll lose our business here in town.," offered baudib.

Ong was chewing over the words... trying to think of the most appropriate way to reply when an attractive female approached him.

"I reckon you could use a lil' cleanin' up," said the female voice. It was SweetClaireRose, who had been responsible for running the saloon's brothel operations ever since Keith had rented out the annex years ago. The decision had been a profitable one, yet with the recent nighttime killings in Gold Rush, something had to be done... and quick-like! Otherwise, the typically rowdy bar room and lounge would be a ghost town before long.

"I'll be up yonder in a minute," twanged Ong. "Any of the gals up for a good time?"

"Flo's out sick but there's always Clementine and her daughter, Clementine Jr," SweetClaireRose noted with a mischievous smile. "I'm sure they can tidy ya' up just fine. I'll go upstairs and tell the girls to draw your bathwater in the meantime."

"Any brown ladies available," inquired Ong as he handed over a miniature leather pouch containing several silver coins.

bikes, who had stood up from his piano bench moments earlier chuckled, "We could always grease a cat's ass for ya!"

Ong rolled his eyes but greeted his friend with a firm handshake and provided a solemn nod... letting the musician know that yet another body had been discovered just on the outskirts of town. The body had been mutilated and its heart, for some reason, had been removed.

"Lord save us," exclaimed GatorJH, who had taken a break from the wood stove area where a large kettle of stew was being prepared for the nighttime customers. "What the hell are we gonna do?"

"We'll find him, or her, or them," stated gabe matter-of-factly. "The afternoon poker game is drying up because people have been staying indoors," added the lanky 6'4" character who was impeccably dressed.

With that, the crowd of buddies dispersed. Ong grabbed a half-filled bottle from the bar and strolled up toward a changing room, noticing that an attractive woman in her mid-40s was lifting a large washtub of water and placing it in one of the wood stoves, assisted by young Clementine Jr.

"I'll worry about villains tomorrow," Ong thought to himself. "Tonight is all about a good time."

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Meanwhile, across town, there was a commotion inside the General Store, where its manager a500lbgorilla was attempting to keep the peace during a heated argument.

Several townsfolk had gathered to share opinions on what should be done about the recent carnage in Gold Rush.

"I've about had enough of this shit," hollered GrayFoxxxx across the room. "Yeah, we've barely settled in here in Gold Rush and we learn that people are getting their hearts torn out," screamed Keybored.

"I say we start asking around and being very thorough in our investigation," said wufwugy, who subconsciously placed his right hand on top of his holstered six-shooter. "I've got plenty of guns, and a500lbgorilla here has plenty of rope," wufwugy added.

bigred, who seemed more interested in a triangular, wood-carved novelty with pegs sitting on the shelf allowed himself to be distracted. "I'm all for anything that gets us back to enjoying ourselves," he sighed.

"So we're really going to start hanging people we may have known all our lives," asked the town's physician, rong. "I've got enough on my hands without having to fill out any more death certificates."

"I'm sure you'll figure it out, Doc," came a voice from longtime rancher lolzzz_321. "It seems like the only way to root out whatever evil has invaded our beloved town."

"Well I reckon that settles it," chimed in Credsfan03, who had just arrived in Gold Rush a few months back in hopes of acquiring a nice tract of homestead land for his family.

"Time to let everyone else know," said lolzzz_321 with an air of finality.

The crowd exited the General Store one-by-one, and headed to the saloon to inform the others.

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Narrator's Note: The introductory night phase will begin shortly. Factional-based Roles will be assigned at that time, and a running count of remaining villagers, angels, seers, vigilantes, and wolves will be published then.

Once the thread is unlocked Friday, all participants are welcome to post. However, Night #0 will be the only night-cycle in which players may post in this thread.

Night #0 --- Roles have been assigned!

Players Remaining

9 Regular Villagers
1 Every Night Angel
1 Odd Night Seer
1 Even Night Vigilante
3 Wolves

No actions are available to any faction during this introductory cycle, yet all participants are welcome to post.

Day #1 will begin on Saturday, August 16th (in 24 hours).

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Originally Posted by dhubermex

1 Odd Night Seer
1 Even Night Vigilante

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Have we ever had a neutered seer like this before . seer virtually has to out on day 4 as day 6 could leave 10 dead 2 shot and three left so for seer to out on day 6 its seer,wolf + another with the seer and wolf then both claiming to be the seer and other has a choice to make between them. At least SDM isn't playing as he'd probably fake out as the seer as well

http://i.imgur.com/aCpvqAJ.gif

There was quite a bit of discussion on specials and game balance, both at the end of the last game and in the (very long) signup thread to this one. SDM, the seer last game, suggested that the seer was too powerful. Wuf, who was on the losing team, actually talked about the seer being needed to balance, but talked about using caps on powers.

The last couple of games have largely been decided by the seer and desperate gambits to fake out. Perhaps we need a bit more game play and force everyone to participate instead of relying on specials. Let's see how it plays out. I'm sure Huber considered all this and the size of the field as well. If we had 13 villagers and 3 wolves he'd have likely allowed full powered specials (I think he said something to this effect in the signup thread.) Blame BankItDrew for not posting in the right thread!

I will note that your post could be a cheap attempt at villager cred and an attempt to draw out specials.

Wolves, prepare for the sweet release of death.

Look how active bigred is already.

Keith's point is valid. Seer needs to be very careful with his selections.

Wuf has a gun...I want a gun too dammit!! Or at least a pack of condoms...

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Look how active bigred is already.

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Look at how stupid you is already

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Originally Posted by Keybored

Wuf has a gun...I want a gun too dammit!! Or at least a pack of condoms...

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Narrator: A gun can be arranged. I'll check with Clementine (Sr.) and see if she can come up with some sort of nutsack tie...

Do what now

im glad to see a bunch of new ppl in the game...hopefully a couple of them are wolves

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Originally Posted by bigred

Look at how stupid you is already

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wow bigred is finally a wolf, you already gave a massive tell away.

You didn't lynch gator. You're not thinking like normal bigred. Wolf #1.

Yee haw!! Let's get loaded, hang us a few furbags, and pleasure some damsels. There's a new sheriff in town boys...

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Originally Posted by rong

Keith's point is valid. Seer needs to be very careful with his selections.

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I don't need no stickin' seer. I will just soulread a wolf on day 1 like last game.

done - bigred it is!!!!

Keith, we have used a odd night seer before but it was Ong and he was nom'd early so it didn't matter

FWIW I think this game may be the most balanced we've played so far. The purpose of the specials is to give the village a boost. If they ever do more than that, either they played sick or the game was imba

But we'll see

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Keith, we have used a odd night seer before but it was Ong and he was nom'd early so it didn't matter

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It mattered to me.

Keith is prob right though, seer will likely need to claim on d4 with 2 lookups. Trying to push it to a d6 claim with 3 lookups seems like a very risky seer strat.

Pretty sick that Big Red has more posts than me. So active.

I think I've come up with the optimal early game Vig strat. I'll post more later.

^Shoot the wolves

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

^Shoot the wolves

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So basically shoot whoever I'm voting for.

Not enough bullets to shoot half the players

Optimal seer strat isn't a d4 claim, it's d3, assuming the angel is still alive.

I can post today it seems. Hello Bigred! You are cool!


I should probably read the rules.

Let's just start Day 1 already. I already know who we're gonna lynch. Since there's no BID, we have to kill BID-lite, lolzzz

Last time lolzzz played he was a wolf and the entirety of his contributions was "hey guise don't lynch me" and "lololol"

That's terrible logic, Wuf. If he's that bad as a wolf we hardly have anything to worry about.

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Originally Posted by baudib

That's terrible logic, Wuf. If he's that bad as a wolf we hardly have anything to worry about.

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Naw, it's about weeding out poor play

Every time, virtually without exception, that people who are not paying attention make it to the late game, the wolves win. One of the main jobs of the village IMO is to get rid of the weak links. The game runs at a rapid exponential pace, so if by the final days, the village is not made up of a winning team, it loses.

At least that's how I play. The way I do elimination process involves punishing low content players and hard to read play. This is because wolfing is so hard by the end if you are forced to put out lots of content. For example, look at how my fake-out didn't work in the last game. I knew it wouldn't work at first so I didn't even try to back it up much. That was because I have a high content style, and that sort of thing gets you majorly in trouble when you're a wolf. There are ways it can be pulled off, but it's hard. Some other players have been able to do it, but also they get in trouble

My village strategy isn't to find as many wolves as we can so much as it is to set up the dominoes that destroy the entire team. So you'll see it's common practice for me to go after low-content players

Hey, if any of you got a PM indicating that you're a wolf, just let me know.

Thanks.

rilla is cool as well. gabe is cool though i am still butthurt about him soulreading my 27o bluff back in vegas.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Hey, if any of you got a PM indicating that you're a wolf, just let me know.

Thanks.

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You should be more worried about the folly of convincing d-hoobs that a Night 0 is necessary

Wolf strat takes like ten minutes tops

I didn't do any convincing. My boy saw the merits of it on his own.

Jesus Christ. Wuf finally rolled wolf.

merits schmerits parrots ferrets

lynch wuf

just practising

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Originally Posted by baudib

Jesus Christ. Wuf finally rolled wolf.

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im quite happy i didnt. i dont have it in me this game. i already revealed like 30% of my tricks in the last game. i need people to forget those before trying again

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

lynch wuf

just practising

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see

im fuckin doomed. ong's super gonna go for payback, even if he says he won't

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

see

im fuckin doomed. ong's super gonna go for payback, even if he says he won't

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fakeclaim on n0, that would be so sick

getting ong lynched was the funnest time ive ever had playing ww btw. i couldnt believe it was actually working

I had a clear idea of what I was going to do on Day 1, assuming near-zero information. It dovetailed nicely with idea for an optimal default Vig strategy.

But I wasn't anticipating a veteran player howling so hard right off the bat.

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

getting ong lynched was the funnest time ive ever had playing ww btw. i couldnt believe it was actually working

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I'm glad you enjoyed it because a) I was vanilla, b) playing like shit, ) was going on holiday so was about to become inactive, and d) village still won.

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But I wasn't anticipating a veteran player howling so hard right off the bat.

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Go on then, I'll bite. What has alarmed you so far? I've picked up about ten wolf tells from wuf so far, so I'm thinking villager.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

I'm glad you enjoyed it because a) I was vanilla, b) playing like shit, ) was going on holiday so was about to become inactive, and d) village still won.

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it only worked because you were inactive, and you were doing the best job of all remaining villagers

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Go on then, I'll bite. What has alarmed you so far? I've picked up about ten wolf tells from wuf so far, so I'm thinking villager.

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I'm thinking I want to rethink talking about my awesome vig strat and let Wuf try to talk his way out of this first.

be careful, i have a history of balls-to-the-wall attacking people who think im a wolf

wuf isn't suspicious enough of baudib's motives for my liking. Wuf is trying to brush off baudib instead of worrying about him after he showed up wolf last game.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Go on then, I'll bite. What has alarmed you so far? I've picked up about ten wolf tells from wuf so far, so I'm thinking villager.

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what are they

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

wuf isn't suspicious enough of baudib's motives for my liking. Wuf is trying to brush off baudib instead of worrying about him after he showed up wolf last game.

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it's night fucking 0. this is shoot the shit time

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

be careful, i have a history of balls-to-the-wall attacking people who think im a wolf

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Be careful, it'll look pretty bad for you if you get me lynched.

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

what are they

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My favourite one so far is "my village strategy".

How about how he says it takes 10 minutes tops for wolf strategy. When was the last time he was in a wolf den?

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

My favourite one so far is "my village strategy".

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as opposed to what?

ive said "my village strategy" in every game and in every discussion after every game

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Originally Posted by baudib

How about how he says it takes 10 minutes tops for wolf strategy. When was the last time he was in a wolf den?

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i speak theoretically

i have said many times in the past that i dont think the wolves need much time. ive never said what my wolf strategy is though, for obvious reasons

To be fair baudib, wuf has modded a fair few games and has been chatty with the wolves on skype. He's probably the most experienced wolf to have never been wolf.

Anyway, just in case it's a giant level by Wuf...

Wuf, why don't you welcome all the noobs and talk about optimal noob villager strategy.

Although wuf's response is worrying, more dismissive than I expected. Why doesn't he quickly say what I just said?

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

To be fair baudib, wuf has modded a fair few games and has been chatty with the wolves on skype. He's probably the most experienced wolf to have never been wolf.

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yeah, I mean, I thought about that. And basically expected him to say it. The fact that he explained it differently is interesting.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Although wuf's response is worrying, more dismissive than I expected. Why doesn't he quickly say what I just said?

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DING DING DING

The epicness of Wuf possibly being the woat wolf is just amazeballs. i wanna touch myself. and i will.

coupla intellectual juggernauts here

I only think you're a wolf wuf because dan hasn't started making me paranoid yet.

that's true. u do have a stiffie for that man. it makes sense tho, i thought he was biggest wolf ever last game

deflection attempt 101

that shit aint deflection holmes

notice how when i was turncoat, i got everybody to think i was lock villager. im not exactly new to how to manipulate in this game. like in the last game, ong accused me of deflection when i said "i wish jyms was playing" after he accused me of being the turncoat. but i was laughing at that because a different thing i had done was my real deflection, that was buddying up to ong by giving reasons why i thought he was a villager. that was one part of a long process of getting ong to think i was villaging and wolfhunting and all that

basically what im saying is deflection is a legit tactic, but it's not something so weak and simple

btw the best way to catch me as a wolf is to tell me im a bad wolf or that you caught me. i was soooooooo close to just going bananas last game because ong did that. im weird in that i care more in being theoretically sound than in getting results

So since you're interested in GTO why don't you get into optimal play for noob villagers like I asked earlier.

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Originally Posted by baudib

So since you're interested in GTO why don't you get into optimal play for noob villagers like I asked earlier.

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Because their optimal play is the same as for every other villager

To be as simple as possible about it, just post a whole lot. Prove that you're a villager and lynch those who are not engaging or who are inconsistent with the behavior of wolf-hunting. Make a hierarchy of most-likely-villagers-to-most-likely-wolves and use that as your pressure/lynch order

A village that does that makes it almost impossible for wolves to win

think i proved that theory wrong a couple of games ago wuf

what game was that. i remember it but not enough

in fact , scroll up a couple of posts and you get

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

that shit aint deflection holmes

notice how when i was turncoat, i got everybody to think i was lock villager. im not exactly new to how to manipulate in this game. like in the last game, ong accused me of deflection when i said "i wish jyms was playing" after he accused me of being the turncoat. but i was laughing at that because a different thing i had done was my real deflection, that was buddying up to ong by giving reasons why i thought he was a villager. that was one part of a long process of getting ong to think i was villaging and wolfhunting and all that

basically what im saying is deflection is a legit tactic, but it's not something so weak and simple

btw the best way to catch me as a wolf is to tell me im a bad wolf or that you caught me. i was soooooooo close to just going bananas last game because ong did that. im weird in that i care more in being theoretically sound than in getting results

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why is wuf promoting a simple strategy to the noobs that he has just said wouldn't have caught him in the last game since he was aiming to be thought of as a lock villager.

Are all the nubs baudib's homeboys?

wuf , it was the game you modded when i convinced village that i was a lock villager and made a case against hoopy that got him lynched to win ........and we even had BID on our team to boot and he managed to not get hung or drop the rest of us in the brown stuff.

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Originally Posted by wufwugy

Are all the nubs baudib's homeboys?

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trying to change the subject? how about answering the point i made .

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Originally Posted by Keith

in fact , scroll up a couple of posts and you get



why is wuf promoting a simple strategy to the noobs that he has just said wouldn't have caught him in the last game since he was aiming to be thought of as a lock villager.

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Ultimately it was part of what caught me

Being able to get away with a web of lies doesn't mean that it's easy. The more lies the village forces the wolves to tell, the harder it is for them to maintain consistency