3 Line Checks From Today

Hey guys, downswinging hard right now and wanting to make sure none of these are horrible.

1. Not played with villain before today. How is my line and who wants to follow through on this river?

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 46.25 BB (VPIP: 25.29, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 88)
CO: 43.5 BB (VPIP: 31.17, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 22.86, Hands: 80)
BTN: 110.72 BB (VPIP: 29.89, PFR: 24.71, 3Bet Preflop: 12.20, Hands: 177)
SB: 122.36 BB (VPIP: 25.59, PFR: 20.67, 3Bet Preflop: 13.43, Hands: 520)
Hero (BB): 155.57 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7:heart: 8:heart:

fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.5 BB, 2 players) 5:heart: 2:diamond: Q:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB

Turn: (9.5 BB, 2 players) T:club:
Hero checks, BTN bets 7 BB, Hero raises to 19.5 BB, BTN calls 12.5 BB

River: (48.5 BB, 2 players) J:club:
Hero?


2. Villain is 3-betting 15% out the SB, he likely views me as aggressive. Standard river bet? Is it maybe more optimal to b/f like 37 rather than jamming? I guess jamming might be better to ensure he never c/cs a set or something since my range has loads of Qx and few perceived bluffs.

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 101.6 BB
SB: 114.93 BB (VPIP: 27.34, PFR: 22.21, 3Bet Preflop: 10.49, Hands: 679)
BB: 115.13 BB (VPIP: 21.15, PFR: 17.31, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:spade: J:heart:

Hero raises to 2 BB, SB raises to 7 BB, fold, Hero calls 5 BB

Flop: (15 BB, 2 players) 8:heart: 2:diamond: J:spade:
SB bets 8 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

Turn: (31 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:
SB bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

River: (63 BB, 2 players) T:diamond:
SB checks, Hero?


3. Flop jammer is a fish who's shown a distaste for folding anything so far, but I haven't seen him do anything totally crazy or over ship previously. I want to just snap here expecting to see enough Ax and random spazz, I'd also discount a set here and am mostly only worried about stuff like AQ K5 etc.

PokerStars - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100.8 BB
SB: 147.41 BB (VPIP: 21.31, PFR: 18.44, 3Bet Preflop: 6.86, Hands: 245)
BB: 145.01 BB (VPIP: 26.83, PFR: 21.14, 3Bet Preflop: 6.00, Hands: 124)
UTG: 172.36 BB (VPIP: 23.59, PFR: 21.59, 3Bet Preflop: 6.72, Hands: 309)
MP: 171.77 BB (VPIP: 28.21, PFR: 23.93, 3Bet Preflop: 10.99, Hands: 237)
CO: 83.61 BB (VPIP: 70.77, PFR: 35.38, 3Bet Preflop: 15.15, Hands: 65)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:club: A:heart:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB

Flop: (37.5 BB, 3 players) 8:heart: K:spade: A:diamond:
UTG checks, CO bets 71.61 BB and is all-in, Hero?

1. I don't like to raise in this spot, too probable you get called. If it was a bare FD I'd fold, here c/c again I think. It's also a bit too likely you're just raising a draw here so he can repop.

2. Do you ever raise this flop?

3. Not that happy to call this, looks K8-y. Do people random shove this with complete air sometimes I don't see it that often tbh.

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Originally Posted by jackvance

1. I don't like to raise in this spot, too probable you get called. If it was a bare FD I'd fold, here c/c again I think. It's also a bit too likely you're just raising a draw here so he can repop.

2. Do you ever raise this flop?

3. Not that happy to call this, looks K8-y. Do people random shove this with complete air sometimes I don't see it that often tbh.

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1. Yeah maybe this line is spew given our draw sucks (it is a bare fd btw) and he can float all his gutters, oesds IP here. The J seems like a pretty good river for his range, and not such a great one for mine.

2. I like raising here. Upside is we get to avoid annoying run outs and are probably +EV vs his calling range given he can spazz a lot here, not fold 99 TT and has a whole bunch of worse Jx which we can stack. The downside is that our calling range becomes more vulnerable, but I don't care so much about this unless we know he's really barrel happy. I like raising better, but don't mind calling here sometimes as well.

3. Yeah if he's a passive fish I think we have an easy fold. He does looks spazzy though and I'm not surprised if he flips over AT A9 etc here. Still though I'm pretty tempted to fold, the fact UTG can ocassionally wake up with the nuts is also disconcerting.

1. super easy c/f turn.

2. call flop, check river. KQ isn't in your range and you have decent sd value.

3. wtf snap this off

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Originally Posted by pocketfours

1. super easy c/f turn.

2. call flop, check river. KQ isn't in your range and you have decent sd value.

3. wtf snap this off

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H1: Agreed

H2: Do you think he's checking a Q much on the river? If he is I can see an argument for checking, but are there not a shitload of two pair, set and over pair combos that we can fold out by jamming here?

H3: (results deleted)

no results wtf

2. Absolutely don't discount all queens. I suppose you're pretty close to the bottom of your range here so I don't mind a bet. I'm not sure he'll fold sets though as you can't have the nuts.

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Originally Posted by pocketfours

no results wtf

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But was semi-funny result :-(

Are you jamming in H2 if you bet?

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Originally Posted by Carroters

But was semi-funny result :-(

Are you jamming in H2 if you bet?

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Results of any kind are strikeworthy in my forum, with the exception of posting them in order to encourage further strategic discussion.

Hand 2 I'd make it $37.

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Originally Posted by pocketfours

Results of any kind are strikeworthy in my forum, with the exception of posting them in order to encourage further strategic discussion.

Hand 2 I'd make it $37.

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Noted. I appreciate the feedback.

Hand 1 - Meh, c/f turn

Hand 2 - check for sure

Hand 3 - Weird...would like it better if there was a FD. He probably has something dumb like JT/QJ or 78 or something. Gotta call.

1. It's a long story but I kind of think 87s is optimal to reraise pre here. I see the logic behind your turn raise but it just reps absolutely nothing but QT so I'd expect your fold equity to be zero on the turn and very low on most follow through river bets. I.E. you're better off calling the 7 than raising. Both choices might be negative ev but calling less so. I think calling is probably a slight positive expectation vs a looser player given he'll rep hearts often when they come and you can bink a 7 or 8 also and hold vs his A4/A3 etc. You might also be able to get away with c/ring the river, and imo that'd be the most viable bluffing line really (depending on the river).

2. I'm a little bit tempted to just raise the turn and punish his semibluffs, but with the As I suppose I'd just call also. On the river you have a jam for sure considering this is the second worst hand in your range, and as you said you probably have 2 pair or better over 75% of the time at this point. I too would jam rather than bet small.

3. Eh I'd just call this pre vs utg. Easy easy call. The utg guy has you beat like 10.5% of the time and although the fish's single most likely hand is AQ, its just too likely he has {Ax}.

Hand 2 I think people are checking queens a looooooooooot here nowadays

hand 3 I would never flat pre

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Originally Posted by Deanglow

Hand 2 I think people are checking queens a looooooooooot here nowadays

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I don't think thats very relevant. Even if he checked qx always it would still be a push as long as we can trust him to the one pair hands a high amount of the time.

raise all the flops. or maybe bet with 87s