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This shit sucks..

But that's how I feel about updates in general for the first week or so.

I hate that at the bottom of a thread you have to click twice to get back to the sub forum you were browsing.

Seems taller and skinnier in a bad way. I. I fear this.

There's no jump to first undead post link which would normally be at the top left of the screen under reply to thread.

Hate it.

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Originally Posted by boost

This shit sucks..

But that's how I feel about updates in general for the first week or so.

I hate that at the bottom of a thread you have to click twice to get back to the sub forum you were browsing.

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click what twice?

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Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

Seems taller and skinnier in a bad way. I. I fear this.

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i think posts are a bit taller, yeah, but same width.

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Originally Posted by rong

There's no jump to first undead post link which would normally be at the top left of the screen under reply to thread.

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it's there just not in the same spot.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/images/firstunr.png

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Originally Posted by supa

Hate it.

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i did at first too during the testing phase, and i think it may be similar to what boost said, it's a slight change and not what we're used to. it grew on me though and hopefully will on others. if not, or if you meant something specific, care to expand as to why?

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Originally Posted by givememyleg

click what twice?

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the "quick navigation" button/dropdown, where it says FTR Community - click once to open a menu of all subforums, click again on FTR Community to go there

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Originally Posted by kiwiMark

the "quick navigation" button/dropdown, where it says FTR Community - click once to open a menu of all subforums, click again on FTR Community to go there

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oh, hm. i never used this before. i assume it used to default to the subforum you're in and you could click once? i just use my mouse's back button.

may be possible to add a link under that to go back, if it's too inconvenient?

I use the Poker Forum > Community > This Thread nav at the top, so dunno how the quicknav at the bottom used to work either sorry

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Originally Posted by kiwiMark

I use the Poker Forum > Community > This Thread nav at the top, so dunno how the quicknav at the bottom used to work either sorry

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i do not accept your apology.

Sweet. I like it

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Originally Posted by givememyleg

i think posts are a bit taller, yeah, but same width.

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LIES!

http://web.archive.org/web/201301162...ftr-community/

Like it.

I think it looks better. It's definitely a little easier to use on the iPhone. Is a mobile app next?

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Originally Posted by givememyleg

i did at first too during the testing phase, and i think it may be similar to what boost said, it's a slight change and not what we're used to. it grew on me though and hopefully will on others. if not, or if you meant something specific, care to expand as to why?

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For one I liked the full width which there doesn't seem to be an option for. Also it seems kinda drab, like it's too grey or something.

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Also it seems kinda drab,

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Originally Posted by givememyleg

oh, hm. i never used this before. i assume it used to default to the subforum you're in and you could click once? i just use my mouse's back button.

may be possible to add a link under that to go back, if it's too inconvenient?

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Browser's back button is inferior, because you are left with an unrefreshed subforum. If any new posts have been made while you've been reading a long thread, you won't see them bumped. So you still have to click again to truly nav back to where you were. I guess you can also click "TOP" and then click on community there, which is better than an awkward drop down menu. Also, yeah, it definitely seems narrower. Roughly 50% of my widescreen (one of my monitors is still 4:3!... samsung 204b, the original grind station monitor!) is unused. I'm pretty sure this wasn't the case before... but maybe it is just more apparent because of the different font, line thicknesses, and other small changes playing tricks on the eye.

I DONT LIKE CHANGE

Why is there a reply to thread button that only allows you to quick reply on a screen that's already there.

Err... nevermind... maybe?

Hmmm. works sometimes.

I like it. Good job

WRT width I'm not sure what people mean - benny's wayback link and the current forum are at the same width for me, but IIRC there was an option a while ago to not move with the times in some way (to fixed width mebbe?) so that could be where the difference lies

No complaints. Seems fine to me.

hrmmm, spam and links popping up in a few places since the upgrade

http://i.imgur.com/rBFRwn7.gif

hmm, isn't there a CAPTCHA or some other challenge-response test for new members in VB4? Making it a requirement for the first 5 posts would be neat.

This white vs light blue document icon:

http://i.imgur.com/CsXjfT0.png

is the difference between an old post and a new post. Please to make a bigger difference, my eyes don't work like they used to.

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Originally Posted by supa

For one I liked the full width which there doesn't seem to be an option for. Also it seems kinda drab, like it's too grey or something.

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adding a full/dynamic width is within the realm of possibilities.

as for being drab, i think a few of the default vb4 colors have leaked through. working on updating everything today to make it more warm.

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Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

LIES!

http://web.archive.org/web/201301162...ftr-community/

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exactly the same for me.. maybe off by a few pixels?

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Originally Posted by derekeverett

I think it looks better. It's definitely a little easier to use on the iPhone. Is a mobile app next?

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yeah, mobile was an issue with vb3, now that we have vb4 it is more realistic. can't give a time line atm though.

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Originally Posted by boost

Browser's back button is inferior, because you are left with an unrefreshed subforum. If any new posts have been made while you've been reading a long thread, you won't see them bumped. So you still have to click again to truly nav back to where you were. I guess you can also click "TOP" and then click on community there, which is better than an awkward drop down menu. Also, yeah, it definitely seems narrower. Roughly 50% of my widescreen (one of my monitors is still 4:3!... samsung 204b, the original grind station monitor!) is unused. I'm pretty sure this wasn't the case before... but maybe it is just more apparent because of the different font, line thicknesses, and other small changes playing tricks on the eye.

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hm yeah good point about refreshing. i guess it's never bothered me using back. i'll see what we can do about the drop down menu, or maybe adding a "back" link that refreshes the subforum.

yeah, it's the same width, unless you were one who still used the dynamic/full width, which we can add again.

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Originally Posted by bikes

I DONT LIKE CHANGE

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http://www.flopturnriver.com/images/change-sp.png

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Originally Posted by supa

Why is there a reply to thread button that only allows you to quick reply on a screen that's already there.

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this is how vb4 works now, reply button goes to quick reply by default. at first i was like wtf but i like it now. plus, you can click on "Go Advanced" to see the actual full reply menu if you want. however, if a lot of people hate this we can look into changing it.

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Originally Posted by Luco

hmm, isn't there a CAPTCHA or some other challenge-response test for new members in VB4? Making it a requirement for the first 5 posts would be neat.

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yeah, anti-spam shit isn't working correctly so the bots are running wild... that should be fixed today.

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Originally Posted by kiwiMark

This white vs light blue document icon:

http://i.imgur.com/CsXjfT0.png

is the difference between an old post and a new post. Please to make a bigger difference, my eyes don't work like they used to.

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good call, will fix this today.

edit - updated, but you may have to clear cache to see the new icon.

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Originally Posted by givememyleg

this is how vb4 works now, reply button goes to quick reply by default. at first i was like wtf but i like it now. plus, you can click on "Go Advanced" to see the actual full reply menu if you want. however, if a lot of people hate this we can look into changing it.

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The way the button works now is awful.

Also, just noticed, pagination dips.

Double click it to go straight to advanced

Quotes look nicer. Not sure if want though D:

This is some serious BS that I have to click 'private messages' to see how many messages I have/if there are any new messages.

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Originally Posted by Pascal

Double click it to go straight to advanced

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oh double click! yes that's totally how links work on the internet and therefore is a super intuitive shortcut that people will likely discover the second time they use it!

how in the name of fuck do i see the recent threads i've posted in?

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Originally Posted by Lukie

This is some serious BS that I have to click 'private messages' to see how many messages I have/if there are any new messages.

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Wait, really? Lol.

Also, "reply with quote" auto places the cursor before the quoted text. That is pretty spectacularly stupid.

I tried make quick reply post and post no go. ME NO LIKE

It worked well enough that time. I'm just used to whatever I do on the old forum format, I guess.

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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

I tried make quick reply post and post no go. ME NO LIKE

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Try double-clicking the Post Reply button, duh!

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Originally Posted by givememyleg

exactly the same for me.. maybe off by a few pixels?

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Weird. Mine is a good 3cm wider on each side. My scrolling has increased by probably 18%. It's tiring.

YEAH, I SAID CENTIMETERS, LIBERIANS!

Solid reason for editing there benny ;)

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Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

Weird. Mine is a good 3cm wider on each side. My scrolling has increased by probably 18%. It's tiring.

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Try double-clicking it?

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Originally Posted by eugmac

oh double click! yes that's totally how links work on the internet and therefore is a super intuitive shortcut that people will likely discover the second time they use it!

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I didn't design it!! Tell Carl if you hate it cos he said he'd look into it, I was trying to be helpful and tell you how to use it in the mean time but my badddddddd

oh so we're supposed to believe it's just a coincidence you turned up 9 months ago and now there's a new double click button? get the fuck outta here we ain't that stoopid

i secretly work for VB4 just to piss eug off with a stupid double click button

heheh

yeah the double click thing is vbulletin's change, not ours. but i can look into seeing if it's possible to change it.

so it looks like nearly everybody hates this update. can we just go back now?

Guys, guys...it's wider in Chrome than Firefox. Maybe this isn't the worst thing that's ever happened.

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Originally Posted by Lukie

This is some serious BS that I have to click 'private messages' to see how many messages I have/if there are any new messages.

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you should receive a notification if you have a new PM (unless you turned that off) but i agree i liked it better when it showed how many PMs one had on the main page. will see if we can add that back.

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Originally Posted by Renton

how in the name of fuck do i see the recent threads i've posted in?

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hm, did we used to have a link that showed this? if so, what exactly did it show? (serious question, i never used it.)

if you go to your profile (http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...rs/Renton.html) and click on "Find all posts" on the left, was it similar to this? that shows all your posts with most recent at the top. if not, how was this page displayed?

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Originally Posted by boost

Wait, really? Lol.

Also, "reply with quote" auto places the cursor before the quoted text. That is pretty spectacularly stupid.

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again, vb4 default, but we may be able to edit that.

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Originally Posted by eugmac

so it looks like nearly everybody hates this update. can we just go back now?

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nope

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Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

Guys, guys...it's wider in Chrome than Firefox. Maybe this isn't the worst thing that's gever happened.

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it's not for me?

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Originally Posted by Galapogos

Also, just noticed, pagination dips.

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it dips? what do you mean by that?

it was a link at the top of the all forums page, basically a one click way of seeing if anyone replied to my shit recently

what you're describing sucks because there doesn't appear to be an easy way to access my profile (aside from typing that url) and it doesn't appear that the page you are referring to shows whether a thread has new posts in it or not (with an icon, as before)

Basically every upgrade has made this functionality worse and worse. On the ancient version of the forum, there was a button at the top of the page that literally showed all the last threads you've posted in sorted in order of newest updated. Then the last version had downgraded that button to a smaller link which led to a page that had all the threads you've recently posted in in the order you'd posted in them (as opposed to the order that they'd received updates, the result being that sometimes someone would reply to an older thread I posted in but I never know about it because its way off the first page), and now the functionality is decreased to having to tediously go to my own profile to click the view my own posts button, which leads to a page that doesn't appear to show whether threads have been updated since last I read them.

This update must go back to its home on whore island.

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Originally Posted by Renton

it was a link at the top of the all forums page, basically a one click way of seeing if anyone replied to my shit recently

what you're describing sucks because there doesn't appear to be an easy way to access my profile (aside from typing that url) and it doesn't appear that the page you are referring to shows whether a thread has new posts in it or not (with an icon, as before)

Basically every upgrade has made this functionality worse and worse. On the ancient version of the forum, there was a button at the top of the page that literally showed all the last threads you've posted in sorted in order of newest updated. Then the last version had downgraded that button to a smaller link which led to a page that had all the threads you've recently posted in in the order you'd posted in them (as opposed to the order that they'd received updates, the result being that sometimes someone would reply to an older thread I posted in but I never know about it because its way off the first page), and now the functionality is decreased to having to tediously go to my own profile to click the view my own posts button, which leads to a page that doesn't appear to show whether threads have been updated since last I read them.

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i'm not suggesting that you go to your profile and click on that link each time as a work around for the link that doesn't exist anymore, i was asking if that was similar to what was here before the upgrade. then i could look into seeing if there is a work around to add a link at the top like before, since this doesn't seem to be a part of vb4 by default.

i think i understand more what you mean though, will look into it.

okay, idk how you crazy fucks think the full/dynamic width looks better and is easier to read than fixed, but if you prefer, the style option FTR Dynamic is there. the default version is FTR Fixed Width but you can change this on the bottom left of any page.

When you're in a sub forum, it just looks cluttered. It seems to work fine but aesthetically it's like dating goldie horn whilst she did botox.

At least change the font back to Verdana please, I find Tahoma to be no more exciting a font, only harder to read.