[10NL] QQ overpair (until river)

Villain is 60/10 but fairly aggro postflop, enjoying donkbetting and other odd ventures. I don't know yet whether he tends to donk/call or donk/fold.

It's very easy for him to hold a K with either KJ or KQ. I don't think he has AQ like, ever here.

Value-wise, I think I'm facing KJ,KQ and the (very) occasional slowplayed 44. Bluff-wise he could be shoving missed flushdraws, but how often is he likely to do this compared with value hands?

I think the river definitely affected his hand, but was it by giving him Kx, or by missing his FD?

Also, not sure if this is important, but it was a pretty quick shove on the river.

Finally, for a pretty wet flop, I think my cbet should have been more like $0.75-$0.80. Thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com
Button ($10.27)
SB ($10)
BB ($11.19)
UTG ($10.12)
MP ($12.45)
Hero (CO) ($10)
Preflop: Hero is CO with :qh:, :qs:
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, 3 folds, MP calls $0.30
Flop: ($0.95) :4h:, :ts:, :js: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.60, MP calls $0.60
Turn: ($2.15) :4d: (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.50, MP calls $1.50
River: ($5.15) :kd: (2 players)
MP bets $9.95 (All-In), Hero??? ($7.50 behind)

Pretty clear you are beat here.

The fact this dude didn't donk bet makes me very suspicious initially, as I'd expect him to donk some sort of weak made hand, draw or airball but not a decent value hand or monster. When followed up with the retarded donk overbet shove (which by itself is never, ever a bluff at 10nl on Stars), this is a clear fold. Whether he's doing this with a straight, 2pr, quads or a boat doesn't matter.

Definitely go bigger on the flop too for value.

Re the timing tell: snap shove is polarising in my experience, but nearly always for value when it's coming from a bad player.

Bigger pre, bigger flop, bigger turn. River is a fold. There are probably a lot more 4's in villain's range other than 44

I'd look him up here but...

Coming back to this hand today, I think this was a much easier fold than I thought at the time.

Unrelated, but what is THIS? -> :pelion:

How did that come to be, and why is there not one saying "cap spoonitnow"?

lol...

Historically, Pelions have a 98.5% chance of being the first lynch in werewolf :(.

OK found the old threads about it... didn't know the game

EZ fold on the river; he has a wide range of hands that beat you with the line he took.

$.5 pre wont change his continuing range

almost pot size the flop because boards wet and he will call with worse

same on turn

As played pokerstove river