2nl - FD & Overcards

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$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG Player2 ($1.33) 67bb
UTG+1 Player3 ($0.06) 3bb
CO Player4 ($2) 100bb
BTN ImSavy ($4.11) 206bb
SB Player6 ($2) 100bb
BB Player1 ($1.42) 71bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 6 players) ImSavy is BTN :ks: :as:
1 fold, Player3 goes all-in $0.06, 1 fold, ImSavy raises to $0.22, 1 fold, Player1 calls $0.20

Flop: :9c: :7s: :js: ($0.51, 3 players, 1 all-in)
Player1 bets $0.02, ImSavy raises to $0.30, Player1 raises to $0.58, ImSavy ?,


Range of person who shoves is likely to be fairly wide. Raise pre as there are a couple of fish behind who are likely to come along so may aswell charge them for pleasure.

Flop, I treat his minbet as a check and bet, probably should have been a bigger bet though.

When he reraises, I'm slightly confused as to what to do.

Yeah, I raise flop slightly bigger and can't get my money in quick enough on this flop. Even with no reads.

Although he isn't full stacked to that does tell us he may be a little fishy.

Vs micro donks I shove this all day. Vs someone in small/mid with a bluffing range/raising draws, I shove this all day. Basically, I shove this all day.

edit: forget all that gob of sh*te below, I didn't see he has only 0.8 behind. You're not folding and the rest of the money is almost always going in no matter what, so shove and be done with it, you might even get a rare fold from his weakest made hands.

No need to raise so big pre imo, you have position and it's not like the initial raiser can call your 3b, why having to rely on one of the blinds cold calling a big 3b to get value from your AKs? I'd count the raiser as three limpers and raise to 0.14-0.16.

Flop sizing is good for a 3b pot imo.

I'd tend to disagree with snap shoving. You have next to zero fold equity at this point: villain just cold called a 3b and c/r you. You're flipping against his one pair hands and you're crushed by the rest of his range, except maybe some random worse draws (a lot of which are blocked). You get a good price to call and stack him if you hit. Play carefully if you hit only an A or K ott.

I don't snap shove this for fold equity as much as I think with dead money and the remaining stack we want the money in vs his range of hands. We have outs vs a set, we are pretty good vs slow played QQ and KK and can even be playing vs AJ, KJs and tons of other hands. I'm also shoving sets here so why not?

Yeah as I said in the edit, I hadn't noticed his stack size.

Would you 3b (well 4b, technically) vs a full stacked fish?

Yep, and expect to get called with all sorts of smaller FD's, Jx hands and slow played QQ and KK's. If I have played a few hands and he's a fish almost certainly I've beat up on him a bit already and he snap calls here with tons that I beat

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Originally Posted by jyms

Yep, and expect to get called with all sorts of smaller FD's, Jx hands and slow played QQ and KK's. If I have played a few hands and he's a fish almost certainly I've beat up on him a bit already and he snap calls here with tons that I beat

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I dunno, you're not really beating Jx, you're actually a slight dog after rake. Also a dog to two pairs, to a straight, to sets, to overpairs. You're only a clear favorite against lower FD's and a lot of these are blocked by the A, K and J of spades.

Don't get me wrong I often raise FD + overs, but I think you need to have a little fold equity for it to be a good play.

I might be a slight dog, but there is plenty of money in the pot already and if he's ever bluffing here, or betting some random hand he thinks is ahead then we are golden. Not to mention he min raised which could be him trying a "rebluff"

If he's a full stack fish, is he able to fold hands ahead of us? Probably.

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Listen to jyms.

this one's a pretty easy shove for me given the SPR once he's 3bet and how much equity our hand has vs his range. villain being a fish i wouldn't be surprise to see top pair and some weaker flush draws when he calls it off, as well as the obvious two pair+ range.