4nl AKo in CO, mono-flop & turn, 3b pot

Villain 20/17/10(6/58) cbet= 58, cbetin3bpot=100% over 200 tagish saw him flat 88 vs. CO open so while his 3b is wide its not ridiculous, also only calls pfr 3% , so for 4nl he's not horrible.

At this level i don't often consider bluffing much unless it's a cbet and i'm just taking it down. I will however vs. the more competent players give it a thought.

i call the flop cause i think i still have some equity , his sizing makes me think he wants to protect against a heart? IDK , when he checks the turn should i be betting? When i do I turn my hand into a bluff right?


Revolution Gaming Network - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $1.57
BB: $5.81
UTG: $1.22
MP: $6.47
Hero (CO): $3.93
BTN: $1.14

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has K:diamond: A:club:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, fold, BB raises to $0.38, Hero calls $0.26

Flop: ($0.78, 2 players) 9:heart: 7:heart: K:heart:
BB bets $0.52, Hero calls $0.52

Turn: ($1.82, 2 players) 8:heart:
BB checks, Hero ??

He checked to you. Your hand has showdown value and still beats other kings and overpairs and just hands that missed the flop.

No reason not to simply check/call the river imo.

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Originally Posted by xptboy

He checked to you. Your hand has showdown value and still beats other kings and overpairs and just hands that missed the flop.

No reason not to simply check/call the river imo.

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was def my intention, and then the 8s came and he bet $1.22... unsure???

Not a big fan of calling a 3bet with AKo almost ever.

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Originally Posted by WeldPhaser

was def my intention, and then the 8s came and he bet $1.22... unsure???

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River is a pretty complicated situation... Not sure what I'd do there.

Think I fold the river bet though, only thing we beat is a complete bluff. He may have been 3bet bluffing though preflop in which case he could well be bluffing now.

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Originally Posted by supa

Not a big fan of calling a 3bet with AKo almost ever.

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4b pre supa? is this because of the playability of the hand post-fl vs. most 3b'ing ranges?

if so we are hoping for a fold? seems like we have to weigh that to how often villain calls our 4b though right?

Bluff the turn half pot. We only need folds 33% of the time to break even. How often does he have a good heart or KK? How often doesn't he?

And yeah I'm 4b'ing this pre.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Bluff the turn half pot. We only need folds 33% of the time to break even. How often does he have a good heart or KK? How often doesn't he?

And yeah I'm 4b'ing this pre.

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Are you 4b/calling or 4b/folding?

Honestly? I'm never 4b/calling, usually 4b/folding and sometimes 4b/shoving.

Ong, 4bet/calling = 4bet/shoving here as his 5bet is going to be a shove like 99% of the time.

Easy 4bet/get it in pre. XPT - you say check back turn because we have showdown value; villain is going to bet river a really high % of the time given how we cap our range and take out all high hearts so you need to have a plan for when he bets.

I like betting small, like 70c, and then checking back rivers. He can call worse on the turn, fold low hearts and we also blocker bet so he doesn't turn the stuff we do beat into bluffs on the river we can't call.

Turn is a clear bet as villain is nearly always giving up or crai. Sizing is the difficult decision - the blocker bet that Pascal mentions seems good as it can be perceived to be ridiculously strong in this situation (i.e. trying to squeeze value) but also save us some bb when we need to fold.

on the 4b'ing , whats ur sizing here Ong, are ya shoving...

I don't like 4b shovin vs. this guy , IDK, do you think we get enough folds to help the flip vs. his AI range?

somebody please why 4b better than flatting 3b and why?

Ok yeah so I had a retard moment and didn't really articulate my thoughts properly.

Sizing I go to around 90c. If he 5bet shoves, I have a decision and I don't really know what to do. This is what I mean by shoving or folding, I usually fold I think, but sometimes call it off. If he makes a small 5bet, I can't fold fast enough.

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Originally Posted by WeaselT

somebody please why 4b better than flatting 3b and why?

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Because we miss 2/3 flops and face a cbet a high % of the time. Are we gonna call cbet with ace high vs bb's 3betting range?

When we 4bet, he folds a lot of pairs. If we flat his 3bet, these same pairs outflop us more often than not and take it down with a cbet or extract value from our call.

If he's making a play here with like 89s or whatever, I don't want to call and allow him to see the flop and control the action.

Pre-flop is ridic standard. As said, if you're calling here you need to not give up on a bunch of flops that miss your hand.

Usually checking the turn behind here. I don't hate a bet.
If I check the turn, I'm probably folding to a river bet without reads.