4NL noobing again.

Suppose this is 4NL as carbon is .02/.04
Haven't been on this site in years. Have some free time and wanted to get back into poker. Finished NL theory last night, been playing the funsteps to get a couple of bucks and now that I have some I decided to play some 4NL. Entered short with 1.50 and went from there. I only played about 30 hands as before this I finished a lot of Steps and 1 freeroll.

About 30 hands I probably want to bring maybe a dozen up here.
2) to work with carbon yet. So I'm using Carbon HUD.
.02/.04NL
Hand 8. Everyone folded to 3.5x raise every hand before this. Three hands before this I raised QJo to 3.5x from UTG cause I felt strongly everyone would fold. Part of me felt I could get away with this bluff since I hadnt played any cards yet. A small part of me though that I should have waited for some bigger cards, but since I just finished a bunch of funsteps to get my 2 bucks I wanted to play.

Pre Flop: Hero(BTN) with [2s,5h]
(MP) folds,(MP) folds,(MP), Hero(BTN) raises 0.14,(SB) folds,(BB) folds

Final:
Me(BTN) mucks [2s,5h]

also think i need a new avatar. This is from some marketing office I was interviewing for back in the day.

Hand 12. Everyone still folding to 3.5x. CO at 17/17 the last 12 same as me though and since everyone was 3.5 stealing the last 12 I felt he was trying more of the same. I found some website that I think was like pokerstove for comparing ranges but I cant find it today.

Pre Flop: Me(BB) with [Td,Kd]
(UTG) folds,(MP) folds,(CO) raises 0.14,(BTN) folds,(SB) folds, Me(BB) calls 0.10


Flop: (9d,Qd,8c) (2 players)
Me(BB) checks,(LP) checks

Maybe i should have raised here instead of turn.

Turn: 7c (2 players)
Me(BB) bets 0.25, (LP)

I don't know if it's because I'm insanely tired but the op confuses me.

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also think i need a new avatar. This is from some marketing office I was interviewing for back in the day.

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I love this random nugget.

Hand looks fine to me so far. What next?

I've never been one for clear, concise thinking. I'll beable to post more tomorrow morning. The further hands get more interesting.

hand 22 Table seems soft by now, maybe I just wanted to change things up a bit. I think if I wanted to play this I should've raised for the std steal which was still going on. Thought I would c/f flop.

(BB) VP:23 PFR:23 AF:Inf. W:0| STL:100|80 3B:10| CB:100
Pre Flop: Me(UTG) with :8c:,:7c:
Me(UTG) calls 0.04,(MP) folds,(CO) folds,(BTN) folds,(SB) folds,(BB) checks


Flop: (Tc,Kd,7h) (2 players)
(BB) checks, Me(LP) checks

I think I should've bet here instead of giving him a card.


Turn: Ks (2 players)
(BB) checks, Me(LP) bets 0.14, (BB) folds

why is everyone stealing in your mind . Don't you think that anyone raises for value? especially from early positions. hand 22 .....why are you open limping UTG? no wonder the table is soft .

Before my first flop since joining table #19 every one would raise .14 then all would fold, hand after hand. there was 1 reraise then the .14 would fold. 1 flop with 1 cbet then fold. I may be confusing a weak table for everyone stealing. I thought everyone was doing this so I joined in once w/air once w/QJo same result.

#22 Ok, I obv need to keep reading and open more utg, utg+1. This is my 1st month/ 1st cash game in years. Another reason why I'm still making sure I play little and read lots. thx

I though I played pretty tight/weak tight I guess. I wanted to err on the cautious side. As I said I've only been playing the funsteps before this.

edit: still going through the same HH and I am checking a lot of flops that I should be raising.

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I wanted to err on the cautious side.

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Limping 78s utg is not erring on the side of caution. Just fold.

At the entry micro tables, most players have no image of anyone else, plus it's not like the rest all react / adapt appropriately. So when you assume they'll respect your bets more because you haven't played many hands, you're projecting your image of yourself into their thinking. You should be looking at what they think of you, if anything, based on their play, not on your expectations.

Thx for the tips so far. Obv a lot still to take in. Also I'm not sure about the HUD being necessary at this starting point... Is it too much?

Ong.. I think I read u don't use a HUD, that true? How do u feel the experience is compared to using one

Only reason I don't have a HUD is because my laptop won't handle it. As soon as my desktop is fixed (this weekend hopefully) I'll have a HUD again.
Being without a HUD, I am much more detailed with my note taking vs exploitable fish, to the point I sit out an orbit sometimes so I can make proper notes, rather than just "fish" or something lazy like that.
But it's the guys who sit there quietly, rarely show down... I'm not sure how tight they are, because they're going along largely unnoticed. So I find myself in tough spots vs these types of villains more than when I have my HUD.

HUD is better than no HUD. But no HUD doesn't mean I start losing money.

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Only reason I don't have a HUD is because my laptop won't handle it. As soon as my desktop is fixed (this weekend hopefully) I'll have a HUD again.
Being without a HUD, I am much more detailed with my note taking vs exploitable fish, to the point I sit out an orbit sometimes so I can make proper notes, rather than just "fish" or something lazy like that.
But it's the guys who sit there quietly, rarely show down... I'm not sure how tight they are, because they're going along largely unnoticed. So I find myself in tough spots vs these types of villains more than when I have my HUD.

HUD is better than no HUD. But no HUD doesn't mean I start losing money.

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it actually does if you are using your hud properly

Yeah poor choice of words on my part. HUD = +ev, so if I'm not using one, I'm not making as much money, = losing money.

Being without a HUD does not mean I become a losing player, but I'm worse off without it.

I also doubt very much I get the most out of my HUD when I do have it running.

Yeah will cont w/carbon HUD better than nothing . Pt or hem is my self Xmas pres.

read all of the stickies/beginners digest

regarding the hands and your posts
fold QJo from utg cos just cos.
'i wanted to play' = interesting mindset
steal smaller from button, don't steal with 52o
KdTd, you flop the nuts. Check is fine. Bet turn is ok, but smaller is better.
don't open limp 87s

Thx daven
Before I play again I'm going to work a lot on ranges. My own ranges for preflop in differing positions and a lot on putting ranges on opponents.

I'm going to keep looking for different articles on bet sizing so I can narrow my sizes cause if I played now they would still be all over the place.

It's entry level stakes. If you have a decent sense of how the use the data HM or PT compile, they're helpful. But anyone with a half-decent game can beat this level at a decent win rate, so it's hardly necessary.