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In a tourney blinds were 400/800. I moved all in 13800 from the 3 seat 6 seat calls everyone else folded. 6 seat only put 1000 out and never verbally called, he didnt see the all in. What happens? Is he binded to all in, 800 bb, the 1000 he put out or does he get chips back?
This depends on where you are playing I would guess. I'd guess in the majority of places though they have to match your AI.
I'd guess this falls under house rules, but I've never heard of a house using a different rule than this:
If a bet has been made, and you put 1 chip into the pot, that indicates a call. Even if the bet is $6 and you throw in a $25 chip. That's a call.
If a bet has been made and you throw out more than 1 chip, that's either a call or a raise.
When the total amount put forward in chips is
A) less than the bet: That's a call, you owe the rest of the monies to the pot.
B) more than the bet, but less than a min-raise: That's a min-raise, you owe the rest of the monies to make up the difference.
C) more than a min-raise: That's a normal raise.
As a beginner:
ALWAYS ANNOUNCE YOUR ACTIONS BEFORE YOU MAKE THEM.
If you voice your intention, then any errors you make with your chip handling do not matter, as your voice trumps your clumsy fingers.
This will likely introduce a new set of tells for you to have to control and worry about, which is why a beginner wants to keep his/her mouth shut, right? Well, you'll lose less monies in the learning process if you just make your mistakes verbally.
There are a lot of little rules about how you handle your chips that can vary from house to house. Until you are BOTH confident in your knowledge of the house's rules, AND methodical in your chip handling, just announce your actions.
Did you write that or is it quoted from somewhere else? :)
I wrote it. I (almost always) provide a citation if I quote something.
I got this info from making costly mistakes in live play and talking to the dealers about what I did wrong.
It is from my personal experience (and could contain mistakes), if that's what you're asking.
No, it's just very useful information for a live poker thread/digest!
Yeah, this definitely goes down as a call in my book.
It can be useful to read through a couple of sets of rules - not just one because they're not all exactly the same.
Also, while I don't play much live, but when you do, it's up to each player to know what the house / tournament rules that apply are.
It's a call by my reckoning. A good dealer in a low value MTT (less than $150) with a bunch of beginners/tourists/fish will let the player know there is an all-in before he acts however.
As far as I've seen, when it comes to preflop raises, dealers are very lenient here when it's obvious he was just putting out a chip that was big enough to indicate that he was calling the blind, especially with a raise this big.
I don't play tournaments, so maybe it's different, but I see this happen all the time, and if the dealer enforced the by-the-letter law that strictly then there would be WAY more flats of raises.