Just puked a little as he bets the flop

Villain spanish 9/8 agg 3.5 3 bet 2.2 squeeze 9%

Does it matter we are slightly deeper than 100bbs where this is a no-brainer.

Poker Stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Button ($10.45)
SB ($12.36)
BB ($2.37)
UTG ($9.10)
UTG+1 ($10.42)
MP1 ($16.01)
MP2 ($19.76)
Hero (MP3) ($19.67)
CO ($6.21)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K:club:, K:heart:
UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 bets $0.60, 1 fold, Hero raises $2.05, 6 folds, MP1 raises $3.40, Hero calls $1.95

Flop: ($8.35) 6:diamond:, 3:club:, 10:club: (2 players)
MP1 bets $4.50, Hero pukes

5bet pre, prob all in, villain has QQ+ AK and we're crushing him. When we call the 4bet, we allow him to b/f his AK on the flop, so we've lost value against like 40% of his range or whatever it is.

As played, dunno why you're puking after flatting his 4bet pre, what did you expect him to do on the flop? I don't want him to fold his AK and there's only one combo he has of flush draws so I call his bet so he can keep firing his AK, but in truth we should've made life much easier by just getting it in pre.

Also, we're not slightly deeper than 100bb, we're 60% deeper, which in my book is a lot.

call

3b sizing is wat.

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Originally Posted by bikes

3b sizing is wat.

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Originally Posted by bikes

3b sizing is wat.

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A misclick yes - it wasn't what I meant to riase too.

Bikes he shoved the turn you still calling?

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would fold turn to anything he bets

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Originally Posted by bikes

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would fold turn to anything he bets

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Really? I give him AK QQ+ for flop cbet and QQ+ for turn barrel. Not folding turn unless Q or A falls.

You calling his 4bet pre bikes, or getting it in?

calling. he has aces for sure when he bets the turn. i would say ~95-97% of the time he has aces

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Originally Posted by OngBonga

Really? I give him AK QQ+ for flop cbet and QQ+ for turn barrel. Not folding turn unless Q or A falls.

You calling his 4bet pre bikes, or getting it in?

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No players sub-100nl can 4 bet QQ pre here - I wanted to fold the flop but the turn is a 100% fold (which I didn't do being stuck 5bis for te session). :(

his 4b sizing is a pretty big give away but im not folding teh flop when he bets half pot

Guess I read these nits wrong. I expect a 9/8 to be 4betting QQ+ AK, calling a 5bet shove with the same range, and I don't expect them to check overpairs on the turn when they have initiative.I definitely give villain QQ here, which is why I'm so wat about calling pre and folding turn. But if this guy can't have QQ, well I'm setting money on fire if I put it in his range and make my plays based on him having it.

I must admit I'm not paying enough attention to sizing. My bad, I should and not doing so is a big leak.

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Originally Posted by Miffed22001

A misclick yes - it wasn't what I meant to riase too.

Bikes he shoved the turn you still calling?

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Do you think you raised too much or too little ?

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Originally Posted by Miffed22001

No players sub-100nl can 4 bet QQ pre here - I wanted to fold the flop but the turn is a 100% fold (which I didn't do being stuck 5bis for te session). :(

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For this villain I agree with this. As a generalization I completely disagree.

*edit* what was the turn?

is irrelevant unless its the K

Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by Sloomer

Do you think you raised too much or too little ?

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Probably less say $1.50 as Id 3 bet a lot here with polarised range against TAGGY players - less polarised against a nit such as this leaving quite a bit behind in a sizeable pot when i have position on all the action.

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Originally Posted by supa

For this villain I agree with this. As a generalization I completely disagree.

*edit* what was the turn?

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Not enough players in these games would 3bet QQ/Ak outside a blind battle - not a lot of 4 betting light or aggression against light 3 betting.

Starts to change a little at 50nl - certainly at 10nl and 200nl is pretty aggro.

I'm 4betting QQ at 25nl vs lots of villains. Not this villain, but perhaps vs hero, depending how often he 3bets and how often continue to 4bet.

Seriously considering flatting pre depending on reads on limpers and the nit's F23b stat.

I think a 9/8 FR nit has AK here never.

Not to bump a thread that was off the first page or anything, but I usually flat the PFR pre. Against most limp fish and most nits, we're getting waaaaaay more value from the fish than we are against the nit.