33 unimproved vs reg

villain is 16-16-7 south american pro over >1k sample. He doesn't call preflop. He c-bets 65%, folds to c-bet raise 80%. He sees me as 21-16-5, maybe a little callier but unlikely cos he won't start tables with me any more. We have history 25nl-100nl, he's winning at 25 and 50. I raise cbets about 20% cos people c-bet too much, i don't think he uses that stat though...

He thinks i splash, call too much, bluff but probably not that intelligently, and like to pour chips into the middle asap with big hands.

This session i've stacked him twice at other tables, once I 3b a whale when i had aces, he cold 4b, whale called and i held. The other i raised a gutshot+backdoor flush draw+overs on the flop after calling AQs pre, then we got it in when he check-shoved after i turned the nuts plus the nfd, he had 0% with his overpair.

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Originally Posted by d0zer

Get fancy with the regs and post those hands, that will be far more interesting :mad:

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hope this is the type of hand that is interesting
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
7 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($10) 40bb
UTG+1 ($41.13) 165bb
MP ($10) 40bb
daven (CO) ($25) 100bb
BTN ($20.18) 81bb
SB ($10) 40bb
BB ($21.55) 86bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.60, 7 players) daven is CO :3c: :3h:
[MP posts $0.25]
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, 1 fold, daven calls $1, 3 folds

Flop: :8h: :ad: :jc: ($2.60, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1.73, daven raises to $3.90,

1 and done? I don't like it, your reads suggest he overplays big pairs but if villain b/fs to often then i suppose there is merit to the play with any 2.
questions; do you call AJo vs UTG+1? is your range for raising here for value something like 88 JJ AJs. can you have AK here? AA? personally I don't have a raising range vs regs IP on this board so a bluff from me would be super transparent vs a reg with half a brain.

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Originally Posted by kickass

I don't have a raising range vs regs IP on this board

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My thoughts exactly. I'd raise a monster vs. a spewy player here if I thought he'd get it in with AK/AQ, but against anyone who's thinking, you can't have any draw strong enough to raise (perhaps T9 can raise, but that's it), so it's dry enough I'd slowplay a set or 2 pair.

A raise on this board would set off my "bullshit detector". I don't think you can credibly represent a made hand on this board other than perhaps AJ or A8. Given you mention that villain perceives you as calling too much and bluffing badly, I think AJ and A8 are such a small part of your perceived calling range that villain will proceed with any strong ace or better here (which he has plenty of in his range).

The only way I can see this working often enough is if you are prepared to back it up with some strong barrelling.

Fold pre-flop.

Yeah, I went there.

As played it's fine.

I don't think this raise is fine at all, I think we only fold out his air, and there's not a ton of that in his range, so unless we want to start firing multiple streets with no equity (which is equally disastrous)...bleh.

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Originally Posted by d0zer

I think we only fold out his air, and there's not a ton of that in his range.

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Huh? There is a lot of stuff he could have that will surrender to the raise. Particularly if we have a straight forward image.

If he's even semi-competent at handreading he'll know how little we rep here, and daven stated that his image isn't pristine vs this guy. Also his range is pretty strong UTG+1.

i don't like it without any pot equity/a nitty or clean image/a read that this guy is a robot who wasn't on FTR during the "put your opponent on a goddamn range" days

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Originally Posted by kickass

questions; do you call AJo vs UTG+1? is your range for raising here for value something like 88 JJ AJs. can you have AK here? AA? personally I don't have a raising range vs regs IP on this board so a bluff from me would be super transparent vs a reg with half a brain.

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I can have AJs (2 combos), AQs, AA, JJ, 88 that are raises for value here i guess, but i probably wouldn't raise AQs. Sets I raise sometimes in this spot, villain should know that i sometimes raise sets on dry boards, and sometimes call sets on two-tone boards. i think he's c-betting about 100% of his range on this flop, and hates continuing to a raise with less than AQ. So, say he opens KQs/AQ+/77+, then he's hating life vs a raise with most of these hands? obviously i could float here too, or fold. Just wondering what people thought about the raise. It's perhaps not as great as i thought it was at the time...

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Originally Posted by Fnord

Fold pre-flop.

Yeah, I went there.

As played it's fine.

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interesting, and yep, i call low pairs too often preflop.

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Originally Posted by Fnord

Fold pre-flop.

Yeah, I went there.

As played it's fine.

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Did you miss the bit where hero stacked villain previously with nuts vs overpair? We have like 25:1 implied odds, fuck him, I setmine him and c/f this flop.

Without previous, I'd agree folding pre is probably best.