Move to 10nl

I am almost at my goal of 20 bi's for 10 nl. I am excited about trying a new level.. but I want to know what you guys think. What are some things that I should know before moving up? I am playing really well over my past 10 sessions or so and I think moving while I am playing well would be optimal. I norm play 5 tables at 4nl.... I am thinking of just playing 2 at 10 nl for around 2000 hands or so. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Also I would like to thank you guys for helping me so far.

Typically when I take a stab at a new level (especially one I've never played) I like to play a little more snug. Don't call down lightly, try to avoid playing OOP as much as possible, don't 3bet too aggressively, etc etc until you develop reads on the regulars at the new stake. Obviously take the fish to the cleaners, but vs the regs try to be more conservative until you develop some reads.

Starting out with fewer tables isn't a bad idea, but you don't have to drop from 5 to 2, drop to 3 or 4 and really focus. Going from 5 to 2 will likely cause boredom after a while and result in ill-advised opens/calls/3bets/cbets/younameit.

Cliffs: Play your same game that was beating 4nl, though I recommend slightly more conservative. It's the same game, just bigger numbers. Think in terms of bb, not $.

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Originally Posted by dranger7070

Cliffs: Play your same game that was beating 4nl, though I recommend slightly more conservative. It's the same game, just bigger numbers. Think in terms of bb, not $.

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Pretty much this^^^^
oh, and crush 'em :D

What I imagine you will find is less complete droolers at the table and more nits which means you have to think a bit more. As most of your winnings probably cone from droolers I would expect your win rate to drop considerably, you should be able to absolutely hammer 4/5nl with only a very low level of skill as the droolers pay you off consistently. But 10nl is easy enough as long as you pay attention which is why you dropping a table or 2 will help. But as the angry doctor says, be careful of boredom or the tilt
will kick in.

10nl is full of nitfish and fish fish

The term fish is relative, besides which even against nit fish you won't win as much as against a loose passive station 60/2 fish.

dont get disheartened if you have to move back down and dont care about monies.. easier said than done.

Keep playing the same game that's been winning you money, don't change anything to start with. Set a stop loss and stick to it (i.e. lose 5BI at 10NL move back down to 5NL), remember moving back down isn't a big deal. You've got to see things in big blinds rather than dollars, which will stop you tilting big time.

Probably play 4 tables.

GL with 10NL

Ya move up, ya move down, sometimes you don't move down, sometimes you keep moving up. It's still NLHE. It's still micro, and they all suck. Just keep working at not sucking. When your beating 100NL's there is no difference between $4NL and $25NL. Just keep learning and killing. play the stakes you beat and keep trying to beat the next one. You will be surprised how easy 10NL is after a failed attempt at $25NL.

Oh yea... and

move up and play 3 tables for the first couple of sessions if you feel like that will help you. don't change your game. Move down if you need to cos bankroll, but you should be fine

Good luck at the new level. As everyone else has said, just keep concentrating on improving and you'll do fine.

based on hands i've seen you post i would not recommend this

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Originally Posted by bikes

based on hands i've seen you post i would not recommend this

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re this^ @ op - do you think that you have you got a lot better at poker over the last few weeks? or stayed much the same? if you think you are a bunch better now and have started winning enough to have the bankroll to legitimately move up then go for it. Otherwise, don't. And post more hands either way.

like, what would you do in this hand now?
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...se-190860.html

how would you play river in this hand?
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...qq-190880.html

the beginning of the learning curve can be pretty steep; in pretty much anything we try to learn the improvements are huge at the beginning (ok, so surfing involves a very early plateau and takes ages for even remote competence, exception proves the rule?). No reason why you couldn't go from not knowing what a flush is to being able to beat 10nl inside a month if you have potential. Would most coaches would argue this is true? dunno, i'm not a coach, but probably.

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Originally Posted by gotigers1234

... I am playing really well over my past 10 sessions ....

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Why?

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Originally Posted by daven

re this^ @ op - do you think that you have you got a lot better at poker over the last few weeks? or stayed much the same? if you think you are a bunch better now and have started winning enough to have the bankroll to legitimately move up then go for it. Otherwise, don't. And post more hands either way.

like, what would you do in this hand now?
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...se-190860.html

how would you play river in this hand?
http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...qq-190880.html

the beginning of the learning curve can be pretty steep; in pretty much anything we try to learn the improvements are huge at the beginning (ok, so surfing involves a very early plateau and takes ages for even remote competence, exception proves the rule?). No reason why you couldn't go from not knowing what a flush is to being able to beat 10nl inside a month if you have potential. Would most coaches would argue this is true? dunno, i'm not a coach, but probably.

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Yeah I think I have learned alot thanks to this forum... I am definitely not limping 65 UTG anymore lol. Generally my range UTG is now 99+ AJ+ and I am usually always raising not limping. I have started to isolate the fish more often in pos and this has really helped me. In later positions I am opening a little wider lately to get more exp. postflop. I have been winning this month at about 8bb per hundred and my confidence is soaring (which could be a bad thing). When I sit at tables now I am more focused on the player types than I have ever been before. I think I am ready to move up... but I am going to set a strict 4 BI rule for me to drop back down. We'll see what happens... hopefully I don't look back. Thanks again to everyone who has helped me.

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Why?

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I have started focusing more on villains than I have before. I am trying to first see what type of player they are and then I look for tendencies that I can take advantage of. I think my postflop play is light years better now than it was before.... I am actually thinking about decisions instead of roboting it. I am noticing huge mistakes that my opps. make and taking notes. Where as before I was making the mistakes.

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Originally Posted by gotigers1234

I have started focusing more on villains than I have before. I am trying to first see what type of player they are and then I look for tendencies that I can take advantage of. I think my postflop play is light years better now than it was before.... I am actually thinking about decisions instead of roboting it. I am noticing huge mistakes that my opps. make and taking notes. Where as before I was making the mistakes.

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Why are you in a hurry to move up? I learned more dropping down than I ever did moving up.

Moving up teaches you what you don't know and dropping down helps you learn it cheaper.

If you move up...
Don't play money scared. I'd make it 6BI to drop back down. You'd still have 35 BIs for 4NL. I would also have a stop loss of 2 BIs per session.

Remember, there's no shame in dropping back down. I've done it many times.

GL