AA overpair fish etc

going through some old 25nl hands i found interesting....
villain is 38-7 small sample

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
8 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($12.37)
daven (UTG+1) ($26.11)
MP1 ($11.06)
MP2 ($16.18)
CO ($24.15)
BTN ($25.89)
SB ($8.55)
BB ($28.49)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 8 players) daven is UTG+1 :ad: :as:
1 fold, daven raises to $0.85, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.85, CO calls $0.85, 3 folds

Flop: :3d: :kc: :9s: ($2.90, 3 players)
daven bets $1.90, MP2 folds, CO calls $1.90

Turn: :6d: ($6.70, 2 players)
daven bets $5.50, CO calls $5.50

River: :5h: ($17.70, 2 players)
daven bets $16.90 ...

overpair vs fish, you go bet bet bet. isn't this pretty standard and mundane?

Standard. Looks good.

Boring.

edit: There's literally no other line I'd even consider taking v a 38/7

id bet moar on flop and get stax in by riv a little more comfortably.

i'm interested to find out what interests you about this hand. as far as the play goes, every street looks good to me. no reason to check/call at any point because villain is a passive fish and there are so few combos of draws that he could even turn into a bluff if he was so inclined. plus he calls with heaps worse. which decision point in the hand did you find interesting or close?

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Originally Posted by rpm

i'm interested to find out what interests you about this hand. as far as the play goes, every street looks good to me. no reason to check/call at any point because villain is a passive fish and there are so few combos of draws that he could even turn into a bluff if he was so inclined. plus he calls with heaps worse. which decision point in the hand did you find interesting or close?

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flop and river sizing

as far as the flop goes, first of all, we are going to be getting folded to a huge amount of the time. vs more aware players this is often an argument for betting our whole range smaller, because our range is going to be so bluff-heavy (obviously in response to their high fold %) and so we want to give ourselves a better price on our bluffs. however i imagine this guy's range is probably pretty static vs different sizes. assuming he's probably some fit or fold fish who doesn't hand read, he's either got a hand he wants to play, or he's already folded in his mind and wants to see his next couple of cards. i doubt there are many sizes < pot which influence his calling range until we get really low, like $1 or less. bearint this is mind i think your sizing is fine and you could perhaps have even gone $2 or $2.25 because of the above reasoning and it makes it easier to get stacks in.

on the river i guess it's a matter of weighing up the value of betting smaller and have 9x call at a greater frequency, or shoving and getting it all the times he has Kx. without bothering to do the maths behind it, i'm pretty confident shoving would be correct. though if someone wants to refute that and show my why it's not the case i'll gladly change my tune.

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Originally Posted by rpm

as far as the flop goes, first of all, we are going to be getting folded to a huge amount of the time. vs more aware players this is often an argument for betting our whole range smaller

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what? there are tons of hands that don't fold this flop

if he's going to be "floating" ace high and stuff like that then yeah. i just felt like on this type of board texture (rainbow, only 48 combos of possible straight draws) against a guy who gets to the flop with such a wide range we're going to be getting a lot of folds. simply because his range is so wide and this board doesn't connect particularly well with wide and weak ranges. i could well be wrong. i suppose me assuming "fit or fold" may not be correct given we only know his preflop tendencies and don't have a fold to Cbet stat or read.