TPGK vs fish - He starts betting the turn

Villain is 66/14/1.5 AF over 34 with about 40% fold to cbet.

I get TP and am pretty delighted vs this guy. I vbet the flop but he leads turn which was puzzling....
He calls a whackload of hands preflop so I felt he could be donking the turn with worse K's, flush draws or various made hands like 2pair or sets.
Is he fishy enough, and do we beat enough to call down?

Poker Stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (CO) ($10.98)
Button ($3.70)
SB ($4)
BB ($7.80)
UTG ($3.30)
villain (UTG+1) ($9.81)
MP1 ($11.12)
MP2 ($12.32)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif
1 fold, villain calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.50, 3 folds, villain calls $0.40
Flop: ($1.15) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
villain checks, Hero bets $1, villain calls $1
Turn: ($3.15) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
villain bets $1, Hero calls $1
River: ($5.15) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
villain bets $2, Hero ?

lol I have no idea. I probably call.

Looking at for a good long time I think the only thing we beat is like KT which I think could be here. But then so can K4, K5 so I guess the question is how many combos of random Ks is actually enough?

$2 into $7 vs 66/14.... just call.

you guys suck at getting value from supermegafish.

that is all.

Yeah... upon review that's some shitty advice. I tend to give advice that's way more conservative than I actually play.

Calling down is fine.

I'm wondering if raising the turn is a better play though.

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Originally Posted by Hoopy

Calling down is fine if you hate value.

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mmmmmm

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Originally Posted by d0zer

you guys suck.

that is all.

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ldo

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Originally Posted by supa

ldo

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well sure, but I thought it'd be helpful if I was more specific.

You f'n BC bonks don't know what it's like to play at games that are so reg-infested that when you find a 66/14/1.5 AF at you get really excited at the opportunity to try and stack him. This is one of those opportunities. it's not the time to "pot control" or whatever, get the fucking money in the middle, and do it before he can't draw anymore.

villain donking 1/3 pot on this blank turn doesn't really narrow his range at all.

It's not all that uncommon at this level to see players who vary their bet sizing according to their hand strength. If this is such an opponent, he may have something like a smaller K, a J or a small pocket pair that he's willing to call your c-bet with, then making blocking bets on the turn and river. Also possible is that he called the flop and bet small on the turn with a draw, and is bluffing the river after missing.

So, it looks like we beat quite a few more hands than beat us. The question is how much of a raise he'll call with how many of those hands.

I would raise the turn vs this guy. He's got a weak hand and/or wants to draw on the cheap way more often. His range is way too wide to just call down imo.

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Originally Posted by Vinland

He calls a whackload of hands preflop so I felt he could be donking the turn with worse K's, flush draws or various made hands like 2pair or sets.
Is he fishy enough, and do we beat enough to raise the turn?

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Yes. With the range you said we can raise the turn(he's never folding any of those hands) and he's way wider then that. Loads of stupid shit here.

raise turn to $4, villain has a spade draw or a weak king or some fucking gutshot heaps enough when he donks turn this small, and he isn't folding any of it
sometimes i call down in spots like this, often i regret it