top 2 vs passive fish got aggro.

villain is 67/0 over 18 doesn't raise flush draws, as far as ive seen he got most of his stack from me last orbit where I bet TPTK aggressively and he donked river when flush completed. dumbass didnt fold he showed 93s for the flush. he seems honest.


$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG ($7.80)
UTG+1 ($4.64)
MP1 ($20.39)
MP2 ($8.91)
MP3 ($4.20)
kick (CO) ($10.15)
BTN ($10.36)
SB ($25.52)
BB ($10.99)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) kick is CO :9s: :ks:
5 folds, kick raises to $0.30, 1 fold, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: :kc: :9c: :6s: ($0.70, 2 players)
SB checks, kick bets $0.60, SB raises to $2.30, $1.7 to kick ($9.25)?

maybe he just doesn't raise 9 high flush draws?

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Originally Posted by gingerwizard

maybe he just doesn't raise 9 high flush draws?

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yes maybe thats why I said as far as ive seen, that hand is all i have to go on. what you think I should do here?

call
turn plz

given he's played 2/3rds of his hands has he been aggro post flop (apart from 9 flush hand)?

With such a crazy pf calling range he has a lot of worse 2 pair than you and OESDs and maybe even strong kings and strong Fds. I'm not folding, probably not here or the turn. Maybe a call is best and see what he bets on the turn. Kind of want to get it in vs someone who's crazy loose like this.

*edit: Want to get it in but not on flop.

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Originally Posted by bikes

call
turn plz

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3h

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Originally Posted by kickass

3h

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And what did he do? you haz position

we were all in
if I had flatted he wouldve bet this turn prolly big

Oh so you shipped the flop?

Turn is now irrelevant then. I would have called flop and depending on bet size and what was left in my stack would have called or raised his turn bet.

shove over a turn bet, call a shove if he shoves

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Originally Posted by gingerwizard

Oh so you shipped the flop?

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I cib and he tank, jammed. I called ldo. just wanted to know how good I should feel about getting it in vs this guy turned aggro. in answer to your earlier question, he had bet when chked to folded to some c bets nothing interesting.

Played perfectly imo.

clicking it back seems unnecessary and bad

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Originally Posted by bikes

clicking it back seems unnecessary and bad

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because I have position and he likely leads turn with anything that calls the min raise?

I'm confused, did he shove or check the turn? What minraise?

I min raised he tanked then jammed, on the flop. I called it off.

do not see the point of cib here

my thoughts were I want it in now before he changes his mind he seemed happy wit his hand, min was enough to make him jam.

oic, he did lead the turn. For how much?

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Originally Posted by kickass

because I have position and he likely leads turn with anything that calls the min raise?

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no because you instantly let him know you have a monster so he can call all his big draws and c/f turns when he doesn't hit or he can find the heroism with like TPTK-TKGK or bottom 2 and fold if he's at all capable.

if your going to raise shove.

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Originally Posted by supa

oic, he did lead the turn. For how much?

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Really? Everything happened on the flop. I played it badly.

I suppose I could see shoving flop, but why? I mean people who c/r flops OOP are firing most turns. If you are ahead of his range, then calling flop and then calling/shoving turn clearly dominates shoving flop (i.e. all hands calling flop shove lead turn, but some that you beat might fold flop shove but still would have lead turn.

did you see above where i said call? i said if your going to raise shove, i didn't advocate raising and i still don't. this is a call otf

Wow, I have no idea what I thought I read. Do what bikes said ldo.

wtf this shit is confusing. But in summary, call raise, stack off on turn. Minraising this flop sucks for a bunch of reasons that Bikes outlined.